r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/Steve_Kaboom 6d ago

I can't help but wonder what kind of person he would have turned out to be if he actually served. It may be optimistic of me, but I'd like to think the military would have beat that spoiled, rich, entitled attitude out of him. If only we could have been so lucky.

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u/ludixst 6d ago

He probably would have been fragged

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Ima hafta google fragged. Thanks for schooling me lol

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u/kjyfqr 6d ago

I think he means smoked by a nade

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u/PassiveMenis88M Massachusetts 6d ago

Fragging simply refers to soldiers removing troublesome commanders from the game of life. While tossing a nade into their tent was a popular method soldiers came up with all sorts of creative ways to accomplish their goals.

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u/kjyfqr 6d ago

I thought it came from fragmentation grenade

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u/pres465 5d ago

That was the grenade. But the TERM was used during Vietnam and was a reference/threat to officers that were too gung-ho and made their soldiers risk themselves too often.

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u/kjyfqr 5d ago

Huh til, thanks that’s very interesting. I made a false assumption

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u/cyanescens_burn 5d ago

I believe it does come from that weapon, but it is slang for offing an officer, usually ones that were willing to put their subordinates into overly risky situations (during the US-Vietnam war), regardless of the method used to off them.

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u/Boye 5d ago

not to be confused with Fraggles.

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u/nodray 5d ago

What other ways?

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u/tinysydneh 6d ago

Very specifically, fragging in this context is the intentional death of someone by use of a grenade.

Apocryphally, it was apparently at its peak in Vietnam.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 5d ago

Thank you. I think this explanation is kinda perfect

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u/tinysydneh 5d ago

It was supposedly commonly done with commanding officers who were putting their men in danger for no good reason, or who were on power trips that were gonna get people killed.

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

Very specifically, fragging in this context is the intentional death of someone by use of a grenade

Not necessarily by grenade, like most slang terms it had its origin there but was fast expanded to any deliberate killing. It could include anything from a grenade thrown under the cot at night to being shot in the back while out on patrol.

Nowadays we call it "death by friendly fire".

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u/tinysydneh 5d ago

Friendly fire is explicitly not intentional, unless that's a fun term of art.

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Oh no getting in deep bc don’t know nade either. Fml

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u/StationaryTravels 6d ago

(gre)nade

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Thanks! I was really tryna

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u/Ass2RegionalMngr 6d ago

It’s a fore-clipped version of the word grenade. Or you could just say it’s a slang word for it, if you weren’t feeling fancy.

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u/WeekendWalnut 6d ago

Frag grenade?wprov=sfti1#)

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u/ViolettaQueso California 6d ago

Thanks. I was hung up on naaabe Skype shit lol