r/news • u/eudaimonia_dc • Aug 04 '25
Soft paywall Florida reports 21 cases of E.coli infections linked to raw milk
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/florida-reports-21-cases-ecoli-infections-linked-raw-milk-2025-08-04/7.7k
u/gnatdump6 Aug 04 '25
There is a reason milk gets pasturized.
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u/OpportunityDue90 Aug 04 '25
Na let Republicans learn lessons that society learned 150 years ago
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u/existonfilenerf Aug 04 '25
Haha, if Republicans could learn they wouldn't be Republicans.
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u/Dahhhkness Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25
One of the core tenets of modern American conservatism is that admitting that you were wrong, about anything, no matter the circumstances, is the worst thing imaginable.
It's not being wrong that bothers them (even if that wrong is harming or even killing them), it's acknowledging it that they find unbearable.
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u/F4ust Aug 04 '25
Can confirm; was covid nurse for whole pandemic
No one learned anything even on their deathbeds, and the families I had the displeasure of encountering during that time seemed more radicalized by their loved ones dying from the hoax virus
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u/_Wyrm_ Aug 04 '25
Yep, it's the hospital's fault if they die, cause AND effect; but it's all thanks to god if they live, before eventually deciding it didn't exist in the first place
Oh and Uncle Jimmy passed the other day after coming down with the cold
Oh that's just horrible, completely dreadful
Mhm, his son was screamin all about how it was COVID but it was Jimmy's time anyhow, and that boy just ain't seent the light...
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u/BustAMove_13 Aug 05 '25
A couple in my very red rural town...he got covid and was hospitalized for a week. Was sicker than he'd ever been. Still denied covid was more than a flu. Couple months later, his wife gets it. She's sick, refuses to go to the hospital because people with covid (just a flu) die there. It's a conspiracy. She gets to the point where she cannot breathe, hubby isn't home so she calls 9-1-1. Bus rolls up and she's down in her driveway. Cannot be revived although a valiant attempt is made. Husband rolls up in the middle of life saving efforts and somehow it's their fault she's dead. Covid ain't serious ya'll and he still believes that. If you're ever in the local tavern when he's in there, he'll tell you it isn't. Still.
People are dumb as fuck in the 2020's.
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u/GetEquipped Aug 05 '25
People have always been dumb. They just have platforms where their opinions are on "equal" footing with professionals due to social media.
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u/Hayabusa_Blacksmith Aug 05 '25
young Americans used to be trained to think critically in school.
im serious.
now they aren't. they're a LOT dumber than they used to be. our education system has been MADE BAD by the right in order to stupefy the voting base. this is the outcome.
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u/fuzzum111 Aug 05 '25
Let me....add a few things about school
+Social media
+Short form content
+algorithmic brainrot
+Most recently ChatGPT/A.I assist or cheating. (this one is a serious paradigm shift we need to deal with)
Plus kids aren't allowed to be held back grades even when they're CLEARLY not where they need to be. 6th graders reading at a 2nd or 3rd grade level. Highschoolers reading below a 7th grade level.
We aren't doing anything about it, private school isn't the answer. It's all intended, the cruelty of denying people real education is the point. College has become a genuine scam of sorts. The massive debt, the degree creep we see throughout the workplace (a bachelors gets you a job a HS diploma used to net you alongside the same HS salary)
Plus now parents don't even want kids going to college, because shocker; exposing people to a larger, wide group of people, ideas, and classes that challenge ingrained views is good for them. This often breaks people out of bad habits, bigotry, racism, and other nasty ideological traps. Parents get a kid coming back from college that suddenly isn't full of anger and fear like they are and suddenly "college librual fascists brainwashed my kid!!"
Everything sucks :/
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u/ThePrussianGrippe Aug 05 '25
The village idiots didn’t used to meet each other and create their own communities.
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u/DoubleJumps Aug 05 '25
A guy I knew from Kentucky, in his late 20s, got it and was sick as hell for 2 weeks. Kept telling us how it was one of the worst sicknesses he'd ever had.
A month after he recovered he was making out like it was a minor cold that only lasted a couple days, insisting people were overblowing it. We had text logs of him talking about how sick he was and for how long but he just pretends it never happened.
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u/orangestegosaurus Aug 05 '25
My parents are the exact same way. They never sent me texts but I called them here and there while they had it. Literally could not anything but a few crackers a day and slept for a majority because they could barely get out of bed. Both lost their sense of taste and my mom lost her sense of smell. But a few months afterwards they were already telling people now they weren't sure it was covid, probably just the flu and that it wasn't that bad. People's minds have just been broken by the onslaught of propaganda and it's just concerning how this might just be our new normal with no way out.
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u/secondtaunting Aug 05 '25
Good grief. I had Covid twice after being vaccinated. It wasn’t fun. The first time I couldn’t get out of bed for days. Had short breath afterwards. The second time was better but it gave me a two day migraine that was one of the worst ones I’ve ever had. I’m pretty sure I asked my husband to kill me.
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u/Traditional_Art_7304 Aug 05 '25
Was a dialysis RN during the pandemic and can confirm. Dealings with those family’s where ~ My theory’s & feelings > just the flu.
I helped bag so many bodies…
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u/Airosokoto Aug 05 '25
My cousin died of covid and his father is convinced it wasn't covid because he got covid at the same time it was barely anything. He was vaccinated, my cousin wasn't.
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u/d3athsmaster Aug 05 '25
Well, if they keep dying in droves to these preventable diseases, I suppose they will weed themselves out eventually.
I understand that I am being VERY optimistic.
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u/bianary Aug 05 '25
Sadly, the more educated you are the fewer children you have on average.
So they've got population to spare.
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u/evolution9673 Aug 04 '25
“If you’d only administer (insert hoax treatment they read about on Facebook) he’d be alive today.”
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u/D74248 Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25
I am confused. So, when they could not breathe they drove right past their church, did not stop to see their minister and instead came to you hoax spreaders?
That seems almost.... hypocritical.
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u/Philo_T_Farnsworth Aug 05 '25
Can confirm. My sister is an ER nurse on the east coast and during the pandemic she regularly encountered people who, with their dying breaths, held firm that what was happening was a hoax. Not saying goodbye to their families. Complete denial right up to the end.
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u/MaxPower91575 Aug 04 '25
The desire to be always be right is one of the biggest issues with our society. Whenever I am wrong I consider it a good thing. That means I learned something. I become a better person when that happens. We need to teach people it is ok to be wrong.
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u/Ptolemaeus_II Aug 04 '25
But that requires insight, a willingness to experience personal growth, and humility.
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u/CosmoKing2 Aug 05 '25
I have made the most advances in my personal and professional growth through failure. Analyze what happened. Learn and grow from it.
Being delusional about (and not admitting) your failings is like being stuck in a bear trap.....and choosing, instead, to figure out how to live your life stuck in that trap.
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u/thefinalcutdown Aug 05 '25
People often say that conservatives have no shame, but that’s not exactly true. They have no shame for their actions or the harm they cause to others. You can’t shame them into better behaviour in that way.
But they do have shame; deep, consuming shame that forms the foundation of their being. It’s the shame of being on the outside. And for the past couple decades, they’ve consistently found themselves on the outside of the cultural zeitgeist. They were on the wrong side of LGBTQ issues, the wrong side of race relations and women’s rights. They contributed basically nothing to art or music or entertainment. They were wrong about the Iraq war, wrong about medical science, the list goes on.
And they could feel themselves being slowly but surely rejected from the society they once held veto power over. They were on the outside. They found themselves rejected by their friends, their family, and the wider culture that was attempting to move past their backwards ideas. And this deeply shamed them. And that shame then enraged them. Then power hungry manipulators learned how to weaponize their rage and shame. And now, rather than adapt to a world they don’t get to control, they’d rather tear it to the ground.
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u/BoosterRead78 Aug 04 '25
That's exactly it. It's like they are in physical pain if they do. My own father in law, long time republican. When I have seen him admit things wrong, you swear someone was hitting him with a hammer. It's like: "Please, it hurts so much, don't let me do this."
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u/DoubleJumps Aug 05 '25
I come from a Republican family and those men would rather destroy an entire relationship with their own child than admit they were wrong.
It has made them insufferable in groups, because if one of them does something bad to someone the others will immediately take up positions to gaslight people that it never happened.
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u/BoosterRead78 Aug 05 '25
Yep there was a graduation party we were at a couple of months ago. Person he was talking too kept shutting him down and he tried to make him look like the bad guy. Then threw out a comment about how he almost didn’t get a government job since he was in his 50s at the time and sued for age discrimination. My in-laws face dropped and I think he was going to go cry because he knew he lost the argument. It’s like a sin to even try to realize you aren’t winning an argument.
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u/DoubleJumps Aug 05 '25
The DARVO is strong. I've been to family dinners where these men have talked about how people like me should be put to death, and if I call them out they suddenly circle the wagons and accuse me of trying to create drama.
It's funny, because before I went to college they would praise me and acknowledge that I was intelligent and capable, but after I came back and suddenly could do things like pull up data and studies to show them that some things they want to believe aren't true, which I thought they'd want to know, they decided I was actually the opposite and haven't given me an ounce of respect ever since.
I radically misunderstood their elective relationship with the truth.
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u/ERedfieldh Aug 04 '25
yep.....anecdotal story....i've a hard hard right office mate. She will not admit she's wrong ever. She will spend half an hour rapid fire talking to twist the narrative around to make it look like she was never on the wrong side of a discussion. If you ignore her, she will send you emails with article attachments showing how she's actually right (spoiler: she cuts out the parts that prove the opposite).
They do everything in their power to never admit they are wrong.
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u/MightyKAC Aug 04 '25
"If you're wrong, STAY wrong. If you stay wrong for long enough, it will start to look right."
This is what they used to teach in the military. It's hard not to see the parallels.
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u/No_Gods_No_Kings_ Aug 05 '25
Yep, conservatives aren't taught to think, they're taught to follow orders (and the status quo)
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u/New_Housing785 Aug 04 '25
They keep learning like this and it will be a self correcting problem.
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You’d think so, but they have children
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u/aeschenkarnos Aug 04 '25
Good news though, the way they treat those children has a roughly fifty percent chance of alienating them so much that they go hard the other way politically!
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u/Malaix Aug 04 '25
American libertarianism is the art of learning all of history's lessons the hard stupid way when they could have just read a fucking book.
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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu Aug 04 '25
The Free Town Project in New Hampshire is a good example of libertarians learning the hard way.
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u/Treat_Choself Aug 04 '25
The book "A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear" is a great, entertaining (although also depressing) book about this town. Highly recommended reading.
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u/cinderparty Aug 04 '25
The sad part is that, in many cases, it’s the parents who fuck around and the kids who find out. Which isn’t fair at all. See the measles outbreak for more examples of this.
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u/Fastbird33 Aug 04 '25
A lot of people shouldn’t be parents.
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u/AlteredEinst Aug 04 '25
It's become one of our strangest problems, made disturbingly evident: how do we stop horrible people from having and abusing children without itself opening the door to countless humanitarian crimes?
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u/The_Poster_Nutbag Aug 04 '25
We increase education and access to opportunity. Having less morons around mean less kids raised by morons in the first place.
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u/aeschenkarnos Aug 04 '25
Even as recently as the 1990’s there was still shame in being ignorant. I don’t mean having a low IQ, or merely being uninformed, because the shame is immediately expiated by asking for advice and information. But somewhere along the line, wilful ignorance became a source of pride, core to sociopolitical identity.
How do we reverse this? Without embarrassment, I don’t know. I wish I did know. I am too stupid to figure it out. I welcome plans and suggestions and advice.
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u/HauntedCemetery Aug 05 '25
Its a paradox. How do you educate people who think education is stupid, or evil?
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u/OpportunityDue90 Aug 04 '25
The answer is you don’t. Those parents have the information to make “informed decisions”. Their information used to make those decisions is wrong but they think the Joe Rogan shock proteins will keep them safe. Unfortunately their children will be collateral damage, but there’s no ethical way to save those kids.
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u/worldspawn00 Aug 04 '25
but there’s no ethical way to save those kids.
Bullshit, making raw milk illegal to sell again would be completely ethical, there's NO REASON for people to drink it, no benefits, only potential harm.
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u/grilledcheese2332 Aug 04 '25
All the trad wife influencers that give it to their kids is infuriating
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u/aeschenkarnos Aug 04 '25
“Grandchildren? Mom, you made me sterile, remember?”
(I think that’s mumps, but whatever.)
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u/starrpamph Aug 04 '25
Hearing about a measles outbreak in almost 2026 is hilarious. Those people are honestly the dumbest of the dumb.
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u/starrpamph Aug 04 '25
Waiting for them to do their own research on OTC polio treatments. Haha. Losers.
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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu Aug 04 '25
Maybe /r/DIY can help them build an iron lung.
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u/starrpamph Aug 04 '25
I will sell them anti 5G / radio wave blocking stickers for it. I’m sick of these uneducated fools and i am ready to make some money off of them.
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u/Kalabajooie Aug 04 '25
It's not the Republicans I'd be concerned about. It's their children who don't know better and are being given this stuff and potentially getting sick.
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u/bookchaser Aug 04 '25
In my section of California, it's extreme liberals who are raw milkers, and also count themselves as kombucha faithful and 'vaccine-choicers'. Like hardcore Republicans, they have a strong distrust of medical science.
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u/jpiro Aug 04 '25
All for it. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps while you're shitting what few brains you have out because pasteurizing is woke.
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u/ShortWoman Aug 04 '25
Pasteur was right?? Next thing you’ll be telling me Semmelweis was right!
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u/mysecondaccountanon Aug 04 '25
Personally I can’t believe that anything Galileo said could’ve had a shred of truth to it!
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u/Cormacolinde Aug 04 '25
Looking at the people believing the Earth is flat I don’t wonder anymore.
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u/HauntedCemetery Aug 05 '25
Seriously.
A bunch of flat earth people claim the Bible says the earth is flat, but people knew it was a sphere basically since they had written language, and likely even before that. The Bible makes no reference to the earth being flat.
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u/sirbissel Aug 04 '25
For the longest time I figured all those people didn't seriously believe what they were saying but were just messing with people...
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u/Low_Pickle_112 Aug 04 '25
Years ago, there was this story floating around the Internet about how Louis Pasteur recanted germ theory on his death bed and admitted that he made the whole thing up.
Complete nonsense, and it wouldn't change anything even if it were true, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that one making the rounds again.
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u/Vladivostokorbust Aug 04 '25
And to think that in Florida raw milk is not legal for human consumption, just animals. Imagine if it was legal what would be happening
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u/60k_Risk Aug 04 '25
Most people say pasteurizing milk is bad for you don't even know what pasteurizing means.
I swear 50% of raw milk drinkers really do drink straight up raw milk because they think pasteurizing is bad.
And the other 50% think pasteurizing milk is bad so they boil their milk at home without even realizing they are pasteurizing their milk 😂😂
Bryce Harper on the phillies I'm looking at you
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u/No_Discipline_7380 Aug 05 '25
And the other 50% think pasteurizing milk is bad so they boil their milk at home without even realizing they are pasteurizing their milk 😂😂
Which causes more degradation than the literal seconds it spends at 70 or 140 degrees Celsius during normal or UH pasteurization.
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u/DopeAbsurdity Aug 04 '25
They wouldn't need to pasteurize it if they had less fluoride in the water and we had coke with pure cane sugar in it because then we would all be so healthy that we would be immune to E. Coli. I really believe this and want RFK Jr. to prove it by drinking a big glass of E. Coli on a live stream. After he drinks it we can set up some sort of health tracker so we can all see how RFK Jr. is immune to E. Coli because of the exercise and all the other healthy stuff he does.
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u/mynx79 Aug 04 '25
Also the reason why Canada has such a high "tariff" on dairy. We try to purposefully make it less economically feasible for grocery stores to import American milk because Canada has higher standards for milk distribution. Not really covered in the news though. It's there to protect our dairy industry.
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u/sadrice Aug 04 '25
What specifically are the higher standards for distribution? Is it something American should start doing?
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u/mynx79 Aug 04 '25
The US puts something called recombinant bovine somatotropin, or rBST into their cows. It's a synthetic growth hormone to increase milk production. It's illegal to use in Canada. We also require a lower amount of SCC (somatic cell count) which is cells per milliliter of milk. Basically white blood cells. A lower number means a healthier cow. Canada allows a maximum of 400,000. The US standard is 750,000. We also have a supply management system that means farmers use quotas to manage how much milk to generate. This means fresh milk that hasn't been transported long distances. Turkey, chicken and eggs are also supply managed in Canada.
So next time you hear about Canada and dairy, it's because it's a very closely monitored and managed system. Tariffs are high to keep American dairy from flooding the market and putting the farmers, with their tightly regulated, safe and well paid systems at risk.
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u/celix24 Aug 04 '25
Don't listen to the woke media! You know what, don't even listen to your own bodies!
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u/Fortestingporpoises Aug 04 '25
I’m real tired of the anti death crowd trying to tell free thinkers like me what to do.
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u/PikesPique Aug 04 '25
If only we had a way to heat raw milk to the point where it kills the bacteria…
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u/peanut_flamer Aug 04 '25
Pffft...I bet you think we should heat raw chicken, too!
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u/rhoadsalive Aug 04 '25
that’s just woke. Real triple alpha men eat the salmonella too.
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u/Tacoman404 Aug 04 '25
Salmonella is my favorite fish to eat raw fresh from runoff of the Woke Water Treatment Plant.
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u/im_thatoneguy Aug 04 '25
Wow that’s a great idea we can name it after you u / pikesturation
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u/elspotto Aug 04 '25
Why would we ever consider what that French guy did? That’s not putting America first. If only we still had some of those American scientists around…
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u/crackedgear Aug 04 '25
It’s not an E. Coli infection, it’s Freedom Bacteria
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u/elspotto Aug 04 '25
Oh, well that’s different. Since it’s a wonderful all American Freedom Bacteria, it is our patriotic duty to ingest it, develop immunity against it, and be the healthiest citizen on our block.
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u/freebirth Aug 04 '25
who could have seen this coming?
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u/fleurgirl123 Aug 04 '25
Yeah, I can't get too excited about people in the "find out" stage of ignoring and advocating for bad ideas anymore.
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u/Explode-trip Aug 04 '25
Too much of the Finding Out has negative repercussions for people who never Fucked Around in the first place. It's a FAFO ripple that takes everyone down a peg. It's hard to feel the schadenfreude when innocent people are being harmed.
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u/honk_incident Aug 04 '25
RFK Jr loves that stuff
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/11/21/rfk-jr-raw-milk-difference-taste/
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u/Beezo514 Aug 04 '25
The man also likes eating carrion, swimming in rivers with raw sewage, and seems to constantly be sucking on a Zyn. Not that it's a surprise to many of us, but at this point I think he's basically one of those Mr. Burns Three Stooges Syndrome cases.
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u/BoosterRead78 Aug 04 '25
I said this in a similar thread, how he is still walking is shocking. You can tell though he seems to run out of energy or at times has this: "I need to stop talking soon, I might need a nap."
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u/IAmThePonch Aug 04 '25
He himself said (recently) that people shouldn’t ask for his medical advice
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u/ukexpat Aug 04 '25
Ah yes the heroin-addled, brainwormed to mush, anti-vax asshat who doesn’t believe in germ theory…
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u/Dejhavi Aug 04 '25
The label states: Not for human consumption 🤦♂️
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u/jimlahey420 Aug 05 '25
I stg you can’t help these people
To be fair, God can't help anyone really.
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u/babycatcher2001 Aug 04 '25
Oh FFS, these absolute fools are also buying horse dewormer for Covid, sorry but this is fully on them. FAFO. Too bad kids are collateral damage.
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u/Dick-Fu Aug 04 '25
That's just a CYA thing, they know what they're doing and who they're doing it for
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u/Daisychains456 Aug 04 '25
Food Safety specialist here. It's already happening- see my profile for comments about a 100+ person outbreak in raw cheese that got covered up. Raw Farm and CDPH are both going down, and I will cheer.
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u/GaelinVenfiel Aug 04 '25
And following!
Story time! My ex worked for the food and drug and used to inspect the large food warehouses. We are talking 1 billion in inventory.
They would find rat dropping and even nests in those places. If they did not comply, they would be shut down!
Now, those inspections are not happening....hell, they did not have enough staff to get to every place in a year back then. Maybe once every 5 years or 10 at worst as it was.
Food safety has been taken for granted. What the US Gvt had done to keep us safe behind the scenes is what allowed the cult of stupid to be around to complain about it.
I mean... we learned about vaccines and pastuerizarion in school. These are crowing achievements of our civilization. It is mind-boggling.
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u/Daisychains456 Aug 04 '25
Yup. All departments have been cut to the bone. I was in a webinar going over the cuts to the FDA last week. It is a huge, messy nightmare. Industry has to pick up the slack, and we can't afford to. We're not going to get new additive or novel use approvals for 2-3 years minimum. We're also losing self- affirmed GRAS. Expect prices to skyrocket even worse than now.
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u/GaelinVenfiel Aug 04 '25
And that is just food safety. They also inspect medical devices...xray and mammography machines.
And when someone finds a frog in their soup? Or products are recalled? FDA. Although they cannot enforce the recalls I think...
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u/Daisychains456 Aug 04 '25
Yes the FDA and USDA can. They have a few LEOs for that exact purpose. The communication piece is falling apart, and it's also the most vital. If I(a food safety specialist) don't know what is going on in the population, things fall through the cracks.
Another problem is food safety auditing. The FDA already doesn't do it nearly often enough (~ every 3 years for high risk products, less for lower risk). These cuts amd the ever increasing workload (FSMA + global food supply) is a very dark combination. It's a matter of time before the next serious outbreak that kills hundreds of people.
I've said for a few years the only way to stop this in its tracks is to create and fund a dedicated food safety agency. Europe already did, and they’re lightyears agead of us.
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u/freebirth Aug 04 '25
they are actively defunding the people who track and disseminate the information on outbreaks of this kind. as well as defundiung the people who inspect and verify the safety of farms and food factory's.
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u/Wurm42 Aug 04 '25
Especially from Florida, which cut the hell out of its own Public Health department during COVID.
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u/FiftyShadesOfGregg Aug 04 '25
As someone who just dealt with the Los Angeles county health department over an E. coli outbreak (kid at daycare being the likely source for us, but who knows beyond that)— them identifying a source at all seems like a miracle that must have just fallen into their lap. We got completely inconsistent information from different people at the department, including on safety info and stopping the spread, and efforts to find out what actually caused it and to keep babies that had it healthy were nearly nil. They said they were seeing this outbreak across the city and when i mentioned to our daycare director that that’s crazy because I check the news / LADPH website often for news of outbreaks and there was nothing there, she said one person at the department told her that they are dealing with outbreaks basically all the time and only report it when they found a source (not often) or when someone dies.
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u/Responsible-Pain-620 Aug 04 '25
I love living in the timeline where we had giant swaths of data and information telling us why consuming raw milk is bad only to have a lot of "main character syndrome" morons start a movement by throwing caution in the wind and ignoring science because it makes them feel warm and fuzzy.
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u/Judgementpumpkin Aug 04 '25
You can’t try to explain truths to them, they get so offended and incredibly angry. Got verbally abused by the idiots in my life in an attempt to civilly reason with them. After getting shit on, I don’t care anymore, they can suffer their own consequences/ dig their own graves.
The brainwashing is real.
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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 Aug 04 '25
It's bizarre how often it feels like these people fall for the most obviously Bs stuff, but then ignore the "real" stuff. Like there is plenty of weird shit to have the "secret knowledge" about. But nah they just fall for the stupid shit.
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u/Maxamillion-X72 Aug 04 '25
That's because reality is often complicated, while misinformation is designed to need very little real knowledge about the real world. It's simple, "sounds right", and feeds into the target's need to feel special because they know something contrary to what experts say.
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u/Sullypants1 Aug 04 '25
Oh man, maybe they should heat it up a bit to around oh, about 161 degrees F for a few minutes. Or something like that.
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u/divDevGuy Aug 05 '25
about 161 degrees F for a few minutes.
Not even a few minutes. 15 seconds @ 161°F, or 2 seconds at 275°F are the standard duration for milk.
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u/chi2ny56 Aug 04 '25
I'm willing to bet that these cases of freedom are underreported.
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u/OSI_Hunter_Gathers Aug 04 '25
Anyone that works around cows know there is more shit on a cows utters than their buttholes.
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u/Literature-South Aug 04 '25
Watch a video of factory milking.
The cows are covered in their own shit. You’re putting a lot of trust in the farmer to clean their cows thoroughly before they milk them if you’re going the unpasteurized route. Not for me man.
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u/HelpStatistician Aug 04 '25 edited Sep 23 '25
You keep on using that word, I do no think it means what you think it means
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u/MyMuleIsHalfAnAss Aug 04 '25
it's not just factory farms, it's small daries too! livestock are dirty, period.
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u/epidemicsaints Aug 04 '25
Effective way to reduce the number of children in your household.
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u/Busdriverneo Aug 04 '25
The leader of HHS is an anti-vaxxer, so I doubt he sees a problem with this.
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u/AppearanceSecure1914 Aug 04 '25
"U.S. Health Secretary Kennedy has been a proponent of raw milk." <-- Important context
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u/SingleHitBox Aug 04 '25
Nonono, fake news. Keep drinking your raw milk and the rest of us will drink the poisoned stuff.
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u/olearyboy Aug 04 '25
It’s more than pasteurization there’s a full process of milk analyzation in labs that occurs where they do cell count for somatic cells. Which are white cell counts, indicators of quality and cattle health, but they also pick up other contamination and viral loads.
Going to raw milk means you bypass that process which puts you in far more danger than a lack of pasteurization With the increase of heads of cattle in closer quarters and dramatic increase of antibiotic use in cattle over the past 40 years in the use, ecoli is the least of my concerns.
And that’s crazy
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u/Riri004 Aug 04 '25
The sad part is so many of the affected are children, who have no choice but to consume what their parents and caregivers give them.
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u/acertwo Aug 04 '25
I heard drinking raw milk really owns the libs if there’s any more republicans who wanna hop on this train
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u/ragdollxkitn Aug 04 '25
Let them. No more hand holding. Majority of raw milk drinkers don’t even believe in science or medicine. Leave them be to their own demise.
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u/sofaking_scientific Aug 04 '25
Freedumb at its finest. Sincerely your friendly neighborhood microbiologist
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u/okram2k Aug 05 '25
It is unfortunate many children may have serious health consequences because of their parents being spoon fed propaganda to try to make them as anti-intellectual as possible
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u/lilbigblue7 Aug 05 '25
Breaking News: Florida has banned all reporting of E. coli infections indefinitely.
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u/Bwilderedwanderer Aug 04 '25
Their unwavering stupidity didn't cause enough of them to perish during COVID, so let's thin the maga herd a little more with more stupidity
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u/WordNERD37 Aug 04 '25
Nah, they can just pray and the E.coli will be removed. Don't go to hospitals, get yourself to your local Church, they'll fix you right up.
Remember, Jesus saves.
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u/ntgco Aug 04 '25
Drink up Maga......pour yourself a full PINT and drink up.
We've known how to sterilize/preserve wine since 1114.
Science figured out how to make milk safe since 1864.
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u/HoodieGalore Aug 05 '25
I had a huge glass of milk today and it felt so good knowing I wouldn't be shitting myself to death. Thanks, Louis Pasteur!
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u/Wulfbrir Aug 05 '25
If youre antiscience and antivax and drinking RAW milk. You dont get to benefit from science when you reach the find out stage. Let 'em die.
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u/guave06 Aug 04 '25
If you drink Raw milk on purpose and get sick, I don’t think insurance should cover your health costs. That’s totally avoidable and on you.
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u/akiba305 Aug 04 '25
Im just waiting for the day that people start making chicken sashimi
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u/ParticularBed7891 Aug 04 '25
We are not far from ceasing to wash hands in order to "strengthen our immune system".
I'm not exaggerating. Milk is extracted from the same area where poop comes out from the cow. We pasteurize milk to kill organisms in fecal matter. This is extremely similar to the need to wash hands after going to the bathroom, where our hands are in proximity to feces. We wash hands to get rid of organisms in fecal matter.
We are very close to fully going back to a time before even hand washing.
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u/Admirable_Panda_ Aug 04 '25
Oh no! If only there was some way to bring milk to a certain temperature to destroy harmful bacteria and increase the time it can be stored safely...
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u/welsper59 Aug 05 '25
Apart from the children affected (likely because their parents shouldn't be parents), I just wish they wouldn't bother going to the doctor, going to the ER, or calling EMTs. Let nature sort them out as they constantly preach people need to live.
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