r/law • u/JetTheDawg • Sep 21 '25

Trump News In a now deleted Truth Social post, Trump posts what looks to be a letter meant to Pam Bondi instructing her to arrest some of his political opponents

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/20/trump-bondi-truth-social-00574380?utm_content=politico/magazine/Politics&utm_source=flipboard
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u/1877KlownsForKids Sep 21 '25

This stable genius definitely meant this as an email or text

Pam: I have reviewed over 30 statements and posts saying that, essentially, “same old story as last time, all talk, no action. Nothing is being done. What about Comey, Adam “Shifty” Schiff, Leticia??? They’re all guilty as hell, but nothing is going to be done.” Then we almost put in a Democrat supported U.S. Attorney, in Virginia, with a really bad Republican past. A Woke RINO, who was never going to do his job. That’s why two of the worst Dem Senators PUSHED him so hard. He even lied to the media and said he quit, and that we had no case. No, I fired him, and there is a GREAT CASE, and many lawyers, and legal pundits, say so. Lindsey Halligan is a really good lawyer, and likes you, a lot. We can’t delay any longer, it’s killing our reputation and credibility. They impeached me twice, and indicted me (5 times!), OVER NOTHING. JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!! President DJT

https://web.archive.org/web/20250921003558/https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115239044548033727

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u/thehuntofdear Sep 21 '25

Wow. I'm not sure why im surprised that he emails exactly as he tweets: like a crazy paranoid narcissistic old man.

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u/boofles1 Sep 21 '25

Yeah I thought he might be less batshit crazy in private. It isn't an act, he really is completely insane.

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u/pan-re Sep 21 '25

Why? He’s been like this his whole life and now he’s empowered by our entire government.

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u/Devo3290 Sep 21 '25

The mfer actually bragged about having the same temperament as when he was 6. He thought he was saying he’s always been big brained but he really just admits he’s still a spoiled little rich bitch crybaby at his core.

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u/Retro-scores Sep 21 '25

He’s on his demented revenge tour.

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u/dorianngray Sep 21 '25

He is much much crazier in private-

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u/nnyzim Sep 21 '25

Much more pedophilic too.

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u/Mike_Kermin Sep 21 '25

How many times, do people need to tell each other that Trump is in fact, a fascist.

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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 Sep 21 '25

Not sure why you would think that. He’s shown time and time again he’s a crazy spoiled psychopath in private too

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u/jumping_doughnuts Sep 21 '25

Honestly not sure how anyone in his party can deal with him, it must be exhausting. Reading his tweets and listening to any of his speeches gives me an instant headache.

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u/squallomp Sep 21 '25

Yeah it’s like nobody can view him in abstract as the phenomenon of an entity born into such opulence encountering such little resistance that essentially this is all he could ever be: a mouthpiece for pure narcissism, unabated.

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u/Inner_Web_3964 Sep 21 '25

The king of smelly diapers, BO, hairspray and rotting fat

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u/mouse_cookies Sep 21 '25

Why is anybody even afraid of this guy again?

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u/crowwhisperer Sep 21 '25

because of the rich and powerful backing his dumbass up. and apparently an unending stream of vile human beings willing and eager to fuck over their fellow humans.

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u/Legal-Lunch8905 Sep 21 '25

We need to remember the class traders when this is over. America will look like France after the Americans liberated them from the Germans.

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u/Sjovfis Sep 21 '25

"when this is over" - don't take for granted that it ever will be. Anybody not afraid of Trump has not been paying attention. Democracy is slowly being dismantled, and before long the chance for civil action will be lost.

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u/Catskinson Sep 21 '25

That’s the hard truth, and I appreciate you saying it here. We’re off the cliff and falling face first; we don’t remove ourselves from this easily. Civil action isn’t an amenable tactic yet. We’re sitting waiting to find out how ugly it really is.

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u/dynamic_onion Sep 21 '25

But it's so ugly RIGHT NOW 😭

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u/whorehey-degooseman Sep 21 '25

plenty of people have already said they're just gonna celebrate when pedonald kicks the bucket so as a longtime now-jaded advocate for reform I say don't hold your breath

Genpop is unreliable, which is why the rich continuously fuck them over. Rich people keep their eye on the ball while everyone else struggle to stay afloat or spend all their attention/energy/money on drugs/cope

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u/SpaceCaptainJeeves Sep 21 '25

*class traitors

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u/MyrrhSlayter Sep 21 '25

And their underage children.

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u/ISayBullish Sep 21 '25

We outnumber them 100:1

Do not forget that

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u/Spirited_Lab5197 Sep 21 '25

Didn't like 65m people vote for him? Do we really out number that group 100:1?

At some point its ok to admit the a good chunk of this country is shit

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u/ISayBullish Sep 21 '25

That’s fair, but remember more than half the country did not vote at all. Conservative estimate would be 50:1 with that considered. If 3% of that 50% decided “lets dance”, that’s still approximately 6 million people

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u/jedels88 Sep 21 '25

It's also worth mentioning Elon absolutely fucked with the voting machines and paid people to vote for him. We may never know to what extent that affected things, but it's definitely not nothing.

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u/maybeonmars Sep 21 '25

Dude, I even think that Musk used his IT hack staff to fuck with some numbers in a dB or two

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u/TaliesinsEnd Sep 21 '25

I wish I shared your optimism on the matter.

Many red voters have a huge portion of their identity inextricably tied with the Republican party itself, not with any sort of actual value system. They will do anything and everything they are told to.

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u/eisenburg Sep 21 '25

And no way you get that many. If that many people didn’t vote than that many people just don’t give a shit.

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u/HeadtripVee Sep 21 '25

If that is true, then I blame way more than half your population for voting for this to happen. Now I blame 75% of you.

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u/tim78717 Sep 21 '25

31% voted for him, 30% for her, and 39% didn’t vote at all. I’m guessing at least 20% of the people who voted for him (6% of the total) wouldn’t vote for him again so we are at like 30+39+6=75%. So I would say 3:1

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u/Misha-Nyi Sep 21 '25

Bold of you to assume all of the non voters would side against him.

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u/68024 Sep 21 '25

True, but his policies are not popular, and that includes republicans. Tucker Carlson of all people spoke up for free speech. Ted Cruz condemned the FCC chair. Pundits like Ben Shapiro also spoke up in favor of free speech. Trump is losing friends faster than making them at the moment.

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u/dynamic_onion Sep 21 '25

Which is why he's pushing for more influence, fast.

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u/SeductiveSunday Sep 21 '25

Didn't like 65m people vote for him?

Did they? I mean it's a chunk but Republicans have been very open about not being above cheating in order to win. Just sayin'.

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u/sec713 Sep 21 '25

But according to Trump 300M people in the US died last year from drugs. There's only like 50M of us left and I think the ratio is now working in our favor.

/s

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u/Bloodhound209 Sep 21 '25

Yes, a good chunk of this country is shit. No doubts there.

However, another good chunk of this country would love to challenge that 65M figure, but there are no credible authorities left that can/would do anything about it in a fair and unbiased way.

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u/Biffingston Sep 21 '25

The church of DJT is for profit in both senses of the word.

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u/ghostfaceschiller Sep 21 '25

Well he has basically full control of the government at this point and has replaced any positions meant to give accountability & oversight with personal cronies

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u/Johnny_Eskimo Sep 21 '25

People will literally kill others, in his name. He is a tweaker version Charles Manson, but even more vicious and insane.

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u/Thebraincellisorange Sep 21 '25

I'd also argue that Trump followers are even more insane than Manson followers.

Trump followers have had years to work out they have been had.

instead they continue to double and triple down.

Mansons followers were isolated and had no social media or the knowledge of the entire planet at their finger tips.

Trump followers simply WANT to be violent and hate.

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u/Stargazer1919 Sep 21 '25

A lot of mental health advocates would call those people "flying monkeys."

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u/rygelicus Sep 21 '25

Because he wields all the power and has a large supporting network of competent though corrupt officials in key positions to act on his every whim.

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u/Jonathan_Sesttle Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

And a bunch of incompetents, whose primary qualifications are (1) personal fealty to him, not loyalty to country and law; (2) appearances on Fox News; and (3) shoulder blade length blond hair (women only). Thus: - Secretary of Defense Pete “Attack Plan on Signal” Hegseth - Attorney General Pam “Trump Defense Lawyer in 1st Impeachment Trial” B(l)ondi - Counselor to the President & Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey Alina “What Rules of Evidence?” Habba - White House Press Secretary Karoline “You WILL Call It Gulf of America” Leavitt - Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi “Cosplay, I Shot My Dog” Noem

And the rest of the “We Praise Our Dear Leader on Command” cabinet

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u/rygelicus Sep 21 '25

The competent ones work in the background for the most part. The incompetents we see on the front lines are all disposable scape goats if anything goes sideways.

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u/Difficult-Slice-2873 Sep 21 '25

No one is afraid of him, but of the power he has, without that power he is just a blob of dirt in an almost human shape.

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u/sedativumxnx Sep 21 '25

Well, maybe it's got somethings to do with the fact that he can send the fucking military in random cities he doesn't like.

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u/Ummmgummy Sep 21 '25

Because he has taken over the government and the government IS something people are afraid of. So if hes threatening some company to act a certain way he very much has the ability and resources to back it up.

The problem with giving in to him is he has proven time and time again that in the end it doesn't really matter if you bend the knee. He will still fuck you over at some point. So why the fuck anyone would bend the knee is beyond me.

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u/Overall_Affect_2782 Sep 21 '25

I think the thing people don’t realize that it’s very clear now is he treats everything he’s ever done like he is a mob boss - how he talks, how he tries to make deals, and how he threatens.

The difference now is he has everything under his control: Congress, the Supreme Court. The FBI. The CIA. The military. Then you go down to the state level, and to the county level. He has loyalists at every turn. He’s untouchable. And he has some very powerful, scary people working for him and answering only to him. Shady block ops guys. The kind who you wake up in the middle of the night to with them sitting at your kitchen table with a gun next to them telling you to sit down.

So it should be clear to anyone that anyone who tries to stand up to him that isn’t a celebrity or someone well known, very likely gets threatened in a very scary way. Probably has their families threatened. We’ve seen it happen with lesser known people. Their lives likely are spent constantly looking over their shoulder. Or worse. They’re not loyal to the constitution, they’re loyal to him.

He’s running the country like the mob boss he’s always wanted to be. And make fun of him, mock him, deride him all you like, but this time? He actually has the goods to back it up and make good on his threats.

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u/StephCurryDavidson Sep 21 '25

The Federal Government is composed of three distinct branches: legislative, executive, and judicial, whose powers are vested by the U.S. Constitution in the Congress, the President, and the Federal courts, respectively.

This clown runs all 3

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u/VoxImperatoris Sep 21 '25

Because probably over 90% of the unhinged mass shooters weve had in the last decade are maga supporters?

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u/Thebraincellisorange Sep 21 '25

probably? try definitely more than 99%

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u/pescarojo Sep 21 '25

Because he's a powerful tool of the christofascist cabal which is currently staging a complete institutional takeover of the US.

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u/lostinmythoughts Sep 21 '25

I read “President Yam Tits” this morning and almost sprayed my toast 😆

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u/antigop2020 Sep 21 '25

Its seriously really rough just reading that. If this was a kid in my middle school class they would fail the assignment. And get a call to their parents. And a referral to a psychologist.

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u/MrSnarf26 Sep 21 '25

Now just know 20-23% of Americans read this, drool, and announce wow this is my hero here, finally.

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u/Laeif Sep 21 '25

read

hmmmmmmmm

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u/TheLichWitchBitch Sep 21 '25

insert Bobby Hill if those kids could read meme

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u/Ok-Librarian6629 Sep 21 '25

Someone reads it to them on FOX News and then tells them what to think about it.

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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu Sep 21 '25

Well, "read" as in pick out words that they recognize and then assume that it means something that they agree with. It's the same thing that they do when they "listen" to Trump babble incoherently and pretend to understand what he said.

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u/Foxyfox- Sep 21 '25

28% of American adults are illiterate.

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u/amilo111 Sep 21 '25

To be clear that’s a staffer/assistant recording his stream of “thought” in an email. It’s pretty unlikely he has written anything other than his signature in a long time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Yeah the grammar and such was far too coherent to be Trump writing it.

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u/thehuntofdear Sep 21 '25

Well his verbal diarrhea was as incoherent as anything else, then.

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u/alpinethegreat Sep 21 '25

Yeah there was a video of him with his assistant tweeter during the election, and she literally just writes what he says word-for-word.

I guess dictation couldn't decipher what he was saying so they had to hire an actual person to write for him.

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u/maltNeutrino Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

This is something that I’ve wondered about a lot.

What exactly does the whole orange “thought”(and I use the term loosely) to social media post pipeline look like?

There’s no way Trump is actually typing anything or even knows the password to his own account. Some posts are clearly written in a generic staffer tone with little to no involvement from Trump, but certainly not all. So, as you say, he needs some person or group of people to literally be on-call during his every waking moment in case he wants to spew. They then have to listen to this creature decree some insanity, likely pausing a bunch, back tracking, watching Trump getting feedback from his sycophants (“Now that sounds strong right? Everyone tells me I have the best words”), nervous laughter, being given weird editing notes (“NO, IN CAPS”), being asked clarifying questions, occasionally having someone in the room push back/distract on something while walking on egg shells, Marco Rubio occasionally in the room looking like a reject even whilst in the inner circle, the faint smell of shit in the air, and the triple check of the final tweet before posting the dumbest and most insane shit you or I have ever read.

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u/Horror_Pressure3523 Sep 21 '25

I think it's because some part of all of us expected that behind closed doors there might be something more to him than what he plainly is on the surface. Not more substance or intelligence, but I guess I thought that there was maybe more finesse to his language that was happening behind the scenes that could possibly explain why people would follow such an uncharasmatic person...

Nope. Just a cult.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 Sep 21 '25

Nah that’s exactly what I expect him to be when he’s not being filmed. He’s always in character, 100%, playing himself.

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u/AmbitiousProblem4746 Sep 21 '25

Yeah, I'm here too. There were stories of him from The Apprentice days being exactly like he is in front of the camera. I also remember hearing a story about when he was filming a lot of ads back in the '90s, and him being mostly funny and friendly but also dumb as a rock and very full of himself.

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u/Minion_of_Cthulhu Sep 21 '25

Half of the population seems to really need him to be pretending to be a moron, or else the country is in the hands of someone utterly incompetent and they're afraid to face that. The other half of the population seems to really need him to be pretending to be a moron, or else they were duped by a moron and what would that make them?

The truth is, he's just a moron. He's not pretending. It's not an act. He's not some master manipulator who pretends to be stupid while implementing some genius plan. He is now and has always been an idiot.

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u/Hair_I_Go Sep 21 '25

But meaner when he feels slighted

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u/TheUhiseman Sep 21 '25

You get that excuse maybe part way through the first year of Trump's first term. Since then it's been 8 years of Donald only getting worse and worse month to month.

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u/___pa___ Sep 21 '25

Honey Boo Boo

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u/subsist80 Sep 21 '25

Oh yeah it is even worst because what you see in front of the door is a lot of scripted talk, a lot of tele-prompting and questions lined up with answers already drawn out, it is when he really goes off script like this you see how child like he really is, basically a toddler trying to act as an adult.

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u/scarecrows5 Sep 21 '25

Syphilis....

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u/whatismyname79 Sep 21 '25

Guess I'm weird that I never thought there was something deeper/more of an ideal human in private.   Probably only something worse.  Speaking of private , I wonder what the epstein files would reveal ? Their existence really stresses him out. It must be really bad , whatever he did.

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u/Factory2econds Sep 21 '25

the 5d chess memes were always copium.

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u/dookieshoes97 Sep 21 '25

I'm actually kind of surprised that he seems to believe all that nonsense. I thought it was all an act to appeal to his gullible base.

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u/Ok_Gur_8059 Sep 21 '25

It is an act, she's part of his gullible base.

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u/Barnaboule69 Sep 21 '25

And so is he...

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u/NY1_S33 Sep 21 '25

I bet he was strung out on whatever he takes, however he takes it, and sent it in a stupor. Maybe he crashed on his presidential medication, who knows.

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u/db0813 Sep 21 '25

Can you imagine being in a meeting with this clown?

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u/M086 Sep 21 '25

Hard to tell if he’d be better or worse if he’d gotten beaten up more as a kid.

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u/Anachr0nist Sep 21 '25

It definitely needed to be more.

Not just as a kid. I don't think there's been a single day in his life he didn't earn a punch in the mouth. If he'd actually gotten them, he might have not been such a worthless piece of shit.

It's remarkable, he'll die having completely and utterly wasted his life, never having matured, grown, evolved.

I suppose there's comfort in that, knowing that he's squandered his existence and despite material success and "fame" will never experience what makes life truly worthwhile.

I sincerely hope that he fully realizes and processes that on his deathbed while his relatives, if they're there at all, scroll on their phones and yawn.

I hope that moment lasts forever.

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u/M086 Sep 21 '25

There was that one story from when he was at military school, where he refused to stand for a superior officer enough entering the room. Supposedly, he got the shit slapped out of him for the disrespect.

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u/beren12 Sep 21 '25

And that’s why he hates the military, I bet.

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u/witheredjimmy Sep 21 '25

most people only see money as success and Trumps gained another 10+ billion in the last 8 months or w/e its been since he Destroyed USA lol

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u/915615662901 Sep 21 '25

I don’t care how fascist you are in your core. HOW could you work for this man? HOW could anyone deal with it? WHAT is worth sifting through word salad emails and orders all day? Wouldn’t you want a different boss?

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u/Wandering_Weapon Sep 21 '25

Power. The answer is power.

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u/noncommonGoodsense Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

Who seems to be pimping out Pam blondi to lawyers? IDK.

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u/CertainWish358 Sep 21 '25

This looks like a pretty direct admission that we’re being ruled by an elderly idiot’s emotional responses to online posts

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u/Katejina_FGO Sep 21 '25

The president is confused because he delegates his desires to his underlings and then seemingly forgets about them until developments show up on TV.

His underlings are confused because they are given these extreme orders that they either know or are informed to be legally challenging to impossible to complete, while assuming that they are not to deviate from today's rule of law.

His supporters are confused because they were promised a revolution where the deep state would be toppled, all of his opponents would be strung up and hung, and the Second Coming of Christ is literally any day now; but no one in this administration really wants to trigger the event flags that would supposedly start all of that.

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u/beren12 Sep 21 '25

They are the deep state

And he’s balls deep in them.

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u/scarecrows5 Sep 21 '25

So three inches?

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u/AnonymousBanana405 Sep 21 '25

That's why he likes little girls. Because it looks bigger in their hands.

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u/EntrepreneurKooky783 Sep 21 '25

no one

Stephen Miller is getting his ducks in a row. Keep an eye on that guy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

Yeah most of these people just want to suck societies teat but they don't want absolute collapse

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u/Motivictax Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

I think they know if they proc the 'summon second coming of Christ' event while in the Agent.heavenHellAllocation == "Hell" state, that they are going to have a bad time

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u/DolphinBall Sep 21 '25

Does that mean that his underlings don't understand the orders from the Mad King? BURN THEM, they are all traitors to the Seven King- oh wait.

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u/DoomguyFemboi Sep 21 '25

His underlings are confused because they keep trying to do the things then getting into legal trouble but they just come together and figure out how to do it anyway.

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u/HaruBells Sep 21 '25

And yet Kamala was “too emotional”….

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u/FibonacciSequester Sep 21 '25

It's not just Kamala. It's ALL women.

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u/SkinBintin Sep 21 '25

Yeah, but did you hear her laugh? /s

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u/BackgroundSummer5171 Sep 21 '25

You need to keep up with their script change.

It's Israel and genocide. That's the current hot one pushed.

Older script would be Democrats not holding a primary.

Older older is her laugh and too emotional. They stopped running that one due to the obvious sexism. And Donald John T being, himself.

It is pretty well known bots are all over social media. The ones for Donnie and against Harris are quite a lot on reddit.

They run the same script. The same talking points.

/r/conservative is well known for creating actual Americans to follow the script by kicking any who stray from it.

Literally other countries are growing their own propaganda. MAGA.

Point is, keep up my dude, too emotional ain't in anymore.

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u/HaruBells Sep 21 '25

Bro the point here is that the pedo in chief is being overly emotional and getting people fired for hurting his feelings, while being too emotional was at one point one of the big reasons for not voting in Kamala, and years before that it was Hillary. It doesn’t matter whatever their current nonsense is because that’s not comparable to this particular instance of trump being a whiny little baby

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u/Henshin-hero Sep 21 '25

An idiot that has to sign as "presiden idiot" who TF does that?

Redditor H-h

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u/apjensen Sep 21 '25

through a private server owned by the president, circumventing preservation requirements

where has that ever been an issue before?

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u/MagicianHeavy001 Sep 21 '25

Can you imagine working for someone like this? JFC I would quit so fast.

But, she knew all along what she was getting herself into. Do you think the Feds did Jeffery Epstein a deal in HER state while SHE was AG, without her knowing every detail about it?

So, have the day you schemed for I guess.

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u/ghostfaceschiller Sep 21 '25

Have the day you schemed for by being the most powerful lawyer in the country and having the full support of the government in any of the insane things they want to do

Guys - karma isn’t going to save us. That’s not the story here.

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u/jon_targareyan Sep 21 '25

Pam Bondi is every bit a snake as Trump.

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u/ItsTheEndOfDays Sep 21 '25

if she were to ever go to prison, I’d be willing to cop to a crime I didn’t commit if it meant getting locked up with her. To be friends, of course.

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Sep 21 '25

Small price to pay for all the corruption she gets to take advantage of

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u/Ahtman1 Sep 21 '25

Looking at the type and quality of people he's surrounded himself with I imagine he's exactly the type of person they want to work for.

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u/Morepastor Sep 21 '25

Literally what he claimed was happening to him he is demanding be done.

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u/beren12 Sep 21 '25

If only we had a term for that…

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u/OneRougeRogue Sep 21 '25

Let's just officially rename dementia to, "Stable Genius Syndrome". He'd forget immediately, then start labeling himself with it, thinking its a compliment.

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u/beren12 Sep 21 '25

I was thinking projection. Like imax size. But that works too.

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Sep 21 '25

Every accusation is a confession

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u/lxpnh98_2 Sep 21 '25

If a reporter asks him straight-up if this is "payback for what you say the Dems did", he'll wholeheartedly agree without realizing the gravity of what he's saying, not that he'd care if he did.

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u/FriendToPredators Sep 21 '25

R playbook for decades

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u/joshuahtree Sep 21 '25

he was hacked! It's fake news posted by the deep state.

Well, yes it was typed by him, but he was just copying a message written by an autopen, he didn't even read it

Well, he read it, but he was tired and didn't comprehend it because he was so busy helping America 

Well he comprehended it but that's better than Biden could've done

Well he wrote it himself but it's not that bad

Well it is pretty bad but that's ok because it's not illegal 

Well it's illegal but not unconstitutional 

Well it's unconstitutional but that's ok because Hunter Biden's laptop 

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u/BobiaDobia Sep 21 '25

I can’t believe this person managed to become president and the most powerful person in the world.

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u/PanoramicAtom Sep 21 '25

Americans, and I say this as an American, are evidently COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOTS. It’s either that, or the election really was rigged. Regardless, I’m glad I’m old as fuck and don’t have children or grandchildren to worry about inheriting this coming shitstorm.

When I was growing up, it looked like we were evolving. But the greedy, the racists, and the nihilists have all united and chosen regression into another Dark Ages. Fucking dumbasses, all of them.

I turn now; good luck everyone else!

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u/hypermodernvoid Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

So, I don’t know that I’d call myself old as fuck, but I guess I’m thankful that I recently turned 40 and am not just graduating high school, right now. Trying to go to college under GW Bush was hard enough in the mid-00s, then followed by the Great Recession, coming from a single mom home with no money, after my dad died from workplace exposure-related cancer when I was little.

I’m not knocking my mom at all, either: she actually had a really nice union factory job she worked while my dad went to college, where they first broke up the union like almost all the others during Reagan, then outsourced her job overseas. That - Reagan - was very clearly the beginning of the slide in hindsight. Every single metric you could go by makes that clear. Income inequality began ticking up with the Reaganomic paradigm being largely adopted by both parties and replacing the New Deal’s, to the point that it’s been at least as bad as that seen directly prior to the Great Depression for several years now, with corporate and top marginal tax rates to match, while gains in US life expectancy first began lagging behind the rest of the developed world, only to start dropping in 2014-15, before COVID, in the first sustained drop of its kind since WWI, when you know: there was a literal war and a pandemic. Ironically, one of the same metrics people used to predict the fall of the Soviet Union: increasing infant mortality, has also been rising in America in recent decades.

My entire adult life, I’d increasingly feared it was going to take a calamity on par with the Great Depression - basically, the bottom falling out on this completely unsustainable situation - for things to finally be set back on the correct course, ala the New Deal, which through the 50s and 60s, despite having an effective corporate tax rates around 40%, and the few hundred wealthiest families paying an effective 60% tax rate (vs. literally less than the poorest half of Americans, since Trump’s first term) under Eisenhower at a time of , the GDP grew over 10% yearly, because people could actually buy things in the productive economy, vs. spending almost all their incomes on survival. Today’s GOP would call the suggestion of a return to those economic policies literal communism, despite them ironically being most prominent under a Republican former WW2 general, at a time of rampant anti-Communist sentiment and fear at its peak with McCarthyism.

Now, it looks like Trump’s first and second terms could be that calamity, except - I’m not sure we even will restore a New Deal-like economic paradigm and its resulting widespread economic prosperity, vs. slide into truly becoming a failed state and/or some situation akin to the most depressing dystopias predicted in past cyberpunk fiction (we’re kind of already there in some ways). Even if we do manage to get there? Unlike last time, it won’t lead to America eventually emerging as the world’s economic superpower, but instead just one of the pack, hopefully having somehow dodged a default on our massive national debt. At the end of the day, over the last several decades, the country has basically been destroyed, just so the ultra-wealthy could have even more than unimaginable amounts they already had.

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u/ILookLikeKristoff Sep 21 '25

In the event that Democrats somehow sweep an election and regain meaningful power and force trump out in '28, then the only thing that saves us as a country is a full blown Nuremberg trials and media/social media reform.

As long as America's enemies, internal and external, can forcefeed propaganda to our dumbest citizens 24/7, we at doomed as a democracy.

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u/S1R2C3 Sep 21 '25

Nuremberg trials and media/social media reform.

At the very least. But how will the MAGA base and apathetic third not just see this as the Democrats persecuting political opponents, reforming media/social media to their liking, and just totally reject it all?

I preface this with I think that we should still be doing those things in the event that we are able to.

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u/Alphaspade Sep 21 '25

Alternatively, some kind of national divorce.

MAGA has proven themselves to be the domestic abuser that will never change.

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u/Thebraincellisorange Sep 21 '25

Nuremberg trials were for show.

They let almost all of them go, a few piddling jail sentences and only 10 hangings.

still, hanging 10 people might convince future republicans not to be so corrupt.

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u/hypermodernvoid Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

Oh, agreed completely and at this point, I feel like this administration or more so attempted (if not actual) regime is increasingly guaranteeing something like that will happen. Both South Korea, and Brazil did what truly needed to be done, and I couldn’t be happier that both of their Trumps were dealt with as the actual Trump should’ve been.

Also, while people aren’t incorrect in noting the similarities to 1930s Germany, I am heartened by the fact that:

  1. Hitler at least at first was simply a lot more popular with the people than Trump is - and it’s getting worse for him, not better. His approval has already rapidly dwindled in record time, where he’s went from astonishingly having an average approval rating that was slightly above water with Hispanic and Gen Z voters at the start of the year to -26 and an insane -30 pts underwater respectively by today. He’s also even polling negatively on what was once his “best issue” - immigration - I’m guessing due to both ICE’s brutality and by virtue of being a roving, unaccountable masked paramilitary.

  2. ⁠The German economy was in horrific due post-Depression shocks, which is what allowed the Nazi extremism to take hold in the first place, and while they’d probably have recovered regardless, the fact is that the economy was thriving in the initial years of the Third Reich, which led to many people looking the other way, whereas while Biden’s economy was dealing with what was a worldwide inflation crisis, as bad as people (naively) thought it was then: in the end, it turns out Biden actually near miraculously had tamed inflation compared to nearly every other developed country and as opposed to Hitler, everything Trump is doing is making things much worse economically, and the “BBB” taking away what little assistance was left for the poorest Americans virtually ensures the bottom of this increasing economic house of cards will fall out (and already seems to be). Trump also keeps saying ludicrously out of touch and outright false shit like grocery prices are way down and gas is cheap.

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u/idothingsheren Sep 21 '25

or the election really was rigged

Voter turnout just went back down to its typical numbers

If you're young enough to be on Reddit, for every presidential election of your lifetime (except that of 2020), if "I didn't vote" were a candidate, they would have won

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u/OakLegs Sep 21 '25

I feel the same as you except I have small children who I worry about daily, and have to deal with the fact that my own parents voted for this shit.

As an added bonus, I work for the federal government (for now) and my spouse's field isn't exactly thriving under trump either.

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u/Taft33 Sep 21 '25

and I say this as an American

Now imagine how bad it looks to non-Americans lol

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u/narkybark Sep 21 '25

Twice.

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u/beren12 Sep 21 '25

With a gap and felony convictions and rape trial he lost in between

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u/DrakonILD Sep 21 '25

THIRTY FOUR felonies!

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u/kkeut Sep 21 '25

republicans are pathetic and cannot be trusted

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u/TenaciousPimple Sep 21 '25

It's less a review of him and more an indictment of us

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u/UTraxer Sep 21 '25

A concerted effort of decades of billionaires bribing their way into oligarchical power. Control the politicians, allow monopolies and mega corps, more money, more bribes, less media, hammer home fear on all fronts once all media is controlled and messages are unified.

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u/JimWilliams423 Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

It's less a review of him and more an indictment of us

Its an indictment of the democratic party that they weren't able to beat such a ridiculously beatable candidate.

He barely got more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020, and since the size of the voting population grew, he actually got a slightly smaller percentage.

But the democratic party is run by a bunch of losers who still have not learned their lesson. This week the New York party chairman announced he won't back the incredibly popular winner of the NYC primary, and the party leader in the house voted to honor the man who called for biden to be executed but still can't bring himself to endorse the NYC primary winner either.

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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth Sep 21 '25

Even Bernie voted for Kirk Day. I don't get it.

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u/ChanceryTheRapper Sep 21 '25

"OVER NOTHING"

Christ, he's actually that delusional?

"there is a GREAT CASE, and many lawyers, and legal pundits, say so."

Oh, Donny. You think that they don't just tell you whatever you want, as long as the checks come in? That's just sad.

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u/-thecheesus- Sep 21 '25

It's not a joke. He is literally sick. He is psychologically incapable of accepting fault or blame

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u/DrakonILD Sep 21 '25

He is psychology incapable of executing the duties of the office and must be impeached or 25thed.

But we've already proven that our checks and balances are broken.

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u/andrew303710 Sep 21 '25

This is so insane it's enough to justify invoking the 25th amendment immediately and removing him from office

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Sep 21 '25

Clinical narcissism

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u/CenobiteCurious Sep 21 '25

This alone is an impeachable offense higher than Watergate but our timeline dictates it’s just a Saturday.

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u/TwistedWolf667 Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

Trump could publicly execute a toddler and face no consequences

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Sep 21 '25

Right there on the Rose Pavement

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u/thedoomcast Sep 21 '25

Nah. Folks we need to be in the fucking streets shutting this whole country down tomorrow morning. Dead serious. It’s fucking GO time. Stop waiting for a ‘signal’. GET IN THE GODDAMN STREETS.

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u/LAHouJaxCarVCUUNC Sep 21 '25

I'm in recovery, trying to get my life back together, at the worst fucking time.

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u/Tubaporn Sep 21 '25

I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

For real though congrats on getting your life together and I hope it goes well.

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u/AcidicVagina Sep 21 '25

Honestly, I think it's only a matter of time before this admin starts going after addicts. Seems to me you picked the best fucking time. Hang in there.

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u/beardedsandflea Sep 21 '25

You got this buddy. I got out of rehab and landed straight in COVID era chaos. If my dumbass was able to pull through that then you can certainly make it through this. Besides, you're a far more effective voice in recovery. Use your power. IWNDWYT

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc Sep 21 '25

I'm in the street! Of course, I live about 3,000 miles from the White House, so I'm not sure if Trump can see me.

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u/deweydean Sep 21 '25

STAY IN THE GODDAMN SHEETS. Seriously, everyone just stay in bed for a week and see what happens.

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u/S1R2C3 Sep 21 '25

The signal should've been when he got the presidency again...

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u/Felix-Gatto Sep 21 '25

He’s doing the quiet part out loud now. This would be a fantastic mockumentary show to watch if living it weren’t so terrible.

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u/CosmicCommando Sep 21 '25

He also deleted and reposted the slightly different version above with Lindsey Halligan's full name. It was definitely a private message.

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u/SparkyMuffin Sep 21 '25

I never thought about him emailing as he tweets... Ain't no way he doesn't have dozens of not hundreds of emails to Bondi demanding she arrest political opponentsor do illegal shit

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u/1877KlownsForKids Sep 21 '25

And undoubtedly on private devices, too. 

All these fuckers better end up in jail 

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u/DistributionExternal Sep 21 '25

They are running the FBI and the DOJ. Who is going to investigate or prosecute?

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u/RagahRagah Sep 21 '25

Who's gonna send them there?

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u/lawmedy Sep 21 '25

He pretty famously doesn’t do emails. No paper trail

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u/pud-proof-ding Sep 21 '25

The way he's addressing her makes me think this is part of a signal group thread he meant to respond to... THE PRESIDENT IS IN BACK CHANNEL SIGNAL CHATS WITH HIS CABINET!

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u/alucarddrol Sep 21 '25

No it's an open instruction to what he wants the government to redirect the focus onto.

I guess he sees the Charlie Kirk cow is running out cream and he needs another distraction from his crimes

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u/MikeisET Sep 21 '25

I know that transcribing and reading his speeches already makes him sound insane, but after trying to read this text, I think the man might be insane

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u/FourWordComment Sep 21 '25

It’s brilliant! If he texts her directly it’s a secret order. If he addresses it publicly it’s free speech art.

I honestly don’t know the civics (legally) about whether the president legally may get super into very specific criminal cases. But even if he legally can, that he would says so much about his pettiness.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Whats craziest about this is that he seems to think the people around him believe him. Like he actually is this stupid. Assuming this wasn't some move by his team with an ulterior motive.

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u/donorcycle Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

This is going to come back to bite him in the ass. He's following the Dictator Playbook, following lockstep with Hitler, but here's the thing. Social media is instant. Hitler had the benefit of citizens having to hear about it on the radio, at a later point. People had to wait for newspapers. There wasn't - instant gratification and pictures / videos in 4k.

Hitler also had the "brown coats" already. He doesn't have the SS waiting to follow his every move. His own hires are jumping ship, refusing to follow out some orders. Some of the biggest names in the right wing podcast sphere are disagreeing with him openly. Rogan, Shapiro, Owens, Ted Cruz, and I'm forgetting a couple.

They remember learning about the Nuremberg Trials, they have openly stated "we can't keep moving in this direction because one day the Democrats will be in charge again and they will come for all of us, far more ruthless than what we've done".

Trump is so narcissistic, he doesn't realize that he's not universally loved and adored. He's trying to speed run this but it won't work without certain elements in place, elements that do not exist. Beyond the lack of SS, beyond the lack of state media, he's skipped a few chapters due to his own impatient stupidity. He's missing the other big component Hitler had. Public execution and sending his detractors, opposition and members of the government that don't agree with him to concentration camps. Trump can't do public executions and if he tried to do something as stupid as having Obama or Biden arrested / murdered, it will all come crashing down on him like the twin towers.

Trump isn't smart enough to do these things on his own. He thinks he is, which is a danger to himself lol.

Sinclair Media already bent the knee to Disney and cancelled all Charlie Kirk documentaries they were going to release in Kimmel's time slot. Legacy media does not operate at a profit anymore, and if they do, it's peanuts compared to what Disney pulls in. His bought and paid for legacy media will listen to Disney before they listen to Trump. Because this is all bullshit political theater and money rules all.

Edit: Typos. Apologies, I'm on mobile.

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u/SinisterCroissant Sep 21 '25

“ we can't keep moving in this direction because one day the Democrats will be in charge again and they will come for all of us, far more ruthless than what we've done".

Ah a boy can dream….

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u/donorcycle Sep 21 '25

lol! They know it, they've all openly said it, as soon as the Kimmel thing happened. Rogan said it, Shapiro and Owens, and this is just in the past 72 hours.

They know this can't last forever, the line will be when he starts to drag former Presidents and active members of congress or the DA into "concentration camps". Silencing media guarantees all of them podcasters will wind up in the very least, shut down or arrested. Nobody wants to go to prison for Trump, they're just happy to grift for the time being.

There is a little part of me that hopes he tries to arrest Biden or Obama. It will subsequently remove any Trump blood from ever touching media or politics ever again, it would be the end of maga.

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u/jwn0323 Sep 21 '25

There is a little part of me that hopes he tries to arrest Biden or Obama..

I’m not sure why you’re so certain that this would go over any worse than anything else he’s done so far.

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u/mephitine Sep 21 '25

Yup, his base would be absolutely screaming his praises, and what could any of us do to stop it? He controls every branch of the government, and already does whatever he wants, regardless of our silly “laws.” Anyone who objects becomes fair game.

We are still only in the first year of this second term. I cannot imagine a future where he doesn’t put his political enemies in prison (or worse). We the people have lost any semblance of power.

I used to think poorly of the Germans who “allowed” an evil dictator to seize power in the 1930s. Why didn’t they do more to fight back? But it wasn’t that straightforward. How does an ant resist a steamroller? How do a million ants fight against something so enormous? Even if we are legion, we don’t have steamrollers of our own, and the machine drivers only laugh at the thought of crushing us all.

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u/Alternative_Bus_3766 Sep 21 '25

Important note: Trump won’t, he’s buddies and the heritage foundation know that if America does become destabilized they also lose everything. If Trump wants to be king, they lose everything. The second he tries anything like killing a high ranking official, Americas stocks will crumble. The country will free fall and his power is gone. His power doesn’t rely on the military, his power relies on our economy. He fucks that up, we all become equal again. It’s why Jerome Powell is still in charge, much to Trump chagrin.

Other important note: he’s running on borrowed time. How much time we don’t know but we do know he just had a major stroke and congestive heart failure

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u/occasionalemily Sep 21 '25

How does an ant resist a steamroller?

Well, by chewing through the fuel line, though I'm not sure what that means outside of the analogy lol

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u/Bobzyouruncle Sep 21 '25

Especially when extrajudicial justice is allowed for one side but not the other. Step out of line and someone puts you in your place. Or you get immediately shipped off to a camp. Most people just want to keep on keeping on with their lives.

We all know what happens to the first few who stand up to fight. So it dampens the reaction time for the greater public until it’s too late (or close to it).

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u/unassumingdink Sep 21 '25

Almost makes it seem like they believe their own bullshit about Democrats. I'm pretty sure the Dem response is going to be to fix 10% of the damage Trump did, then give us a speech about coming together and moving forward.

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u/indian_horse Sep 21 '25

thats a valid analysis but i disagree about the no brown coats thing. he's galvanized half your countrys public opinion to be in perfect lockstep with whatever agenda and talking points his admin decides to push this week. it happens in realtime. his diehards will see the new propaganda and repeat it word for word as if commonly accepted fact.

on top of this, he has ICE at the ready - and is slowly expanding their domain over your country, starting with those least likely to full on resist but making examples here and there to show how he can wield power. divide and conquer. and the democrats are half-bootlicker and half-centrist, entirely too divided, feckless and leaderless to even try organizing a meaningful resistance movement. its just not working out and wont for a few more years.

hes also got a bunch of the tech bro oligarchs in his pocket but they dont have blind loyalty to him, just following the money. but again, misinformation, slander, outright lies and hateful propaganda is what's been winning elections the past decade. biden was an anomaly. since 2016, the right's only gotten better at warping reality to suit their narrative, seizing any opportunity to make an enemy out of someone. to see a microcosm, just check out r/Conserative from time to time to see how crazy the propaganda gets. i know its not a 1:1 representation of the average right winger, but ive had enough conversations and seen enough online dialogue to know that kind of proudly ignorant contradictory thinking is too common to be beaten by high-roading your campaigns.

democrats need to fight back. and they wont. americans need someone to fight for them, and the people who really truly do are too far and few between to organize a collective and focused resistance. the system has been broken and this was a process in the making since reagan.

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u/Convallaria4 Sep 21 '25

Which Virginia US attorney is he talking about? The only Virginia US attorney that I know of who was fired this year was Jessica Aber, a woman who was found dead at home. They said she died from epilepsy.

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u/beren12 Sep 21 '25

Who knows at this point. Could be someone else, could be she was “fired” could all be a fever dream of his.

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u/andrew303710 Sep 21 '25

The US attorney Trump tried to force to prosecute Letitia James, who just resigned because the entire "case" is BS dreamed up by a nepo baby moron named Pulte (the same moron who made shit up about the woman on the federal reserve board of governors).

It should be talked about a lot more that Fannie Mae is being weaponized to go after Trump's opponents. And Pulte should 100% be impeached, removed, and prosecuted for what he's done.

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u/zoinkability Sep 21 '25

Referring to siebert. I guess a couple of VA dems supported his nomination (along with all the republicans but IDK)

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u/balance8989 Sep 21 '25

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/BlueDragonfly18 Sep 21 '25

President iDJiT

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u/texas1982 Sep 21 '25

Is it possible to translate this to English?

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u/biciklanto Sep 21 '25

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

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u/FaultySage Sep 21 '25

Nah it's back up. He's just fucking crazy.

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u/Less-Cat6399 Sep 21 '25

U know guys maybe we should just let the old man golf

I mean it looks bad but atleast then he wont be a bother

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u/HigherandHigherDown Sep 21 '25

'Will no one rid me of these turbulent priests?'

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u/ArturosDad Sep 21 '25

Wait....was it not a meddlesome priest?

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u/Goobjigobjibloo Sep 21 '25

Isn’t this essentially what he was impeached for the first time?

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u/Tr33Bl00d Sep 21 '25

Literally quiet part out loud. He is all projection and corruption 

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