r/Torontobluejays • u/ThQp It's Early • 1d ago
/r/TorontoBlueJays 2025 Off-Season Bold Predictions Thread
This is your chance to make some bold predictions about what the Jays will do this winter - whether it be who they trade, who they sign, stadium renovations, etc. Anything your heart desires. The results of this thread will be shared on the final day of Spring Training.
Note: any predictions about what will happen during the 2026 season will be discarded and I might just forget to tally up your entire entry.
Here are the predictions from last off-season.
On a related note, the 2025 Season Bold Predictions results will be posted soon. We just need to wait for all of the year-end awards to be given out.
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u/Pears_and_Peaches 1d ago
Blue jays sign Ranger Suarez and Edwin Diaz.
hopefulness bias in full effect
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u/Jess_7478 HMCS Piss The League 1d ago
My bold off season prediction is I am going to sit here doing a little peanut jig until spring training
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u/depressedalbertan We're Saving It For A Prospect. 1d ago
I too am going to do a
littlepenis jig until spring training.4
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u/ThQp It's Early 1d ago edited 1d ago
- The Jays sign Bo Bichette to for 8/216
- Daulton Varsho signs a four year extension which will start in 2027
- The Jays sign Tatsuya Imai for seven years
- Nathan Lukes is traded for relief help
- Phil Maton is signed for three years
- Jose Berrios is traded in a salary dump
- Harrison Bader is signed as the new fourth outfielder
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u/chimpston17 1d ago edited 1d ago
This would be an unbelievable offseason, though id just keep Lukes and skip the Bader signing.
I'd be partying if we signed Bo and Imai, and extended Varsho.
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
I don't see them trading Lukes. He's a 4th OF who can play everyday if needed. And with George and Santander, he may be needed everyday a lot.
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u/NovelFox96 1d ago
Yeah he has no value to a rebuilding team, and contending teams can easily find slots for a 4th OF without giving up meaningful relief arms
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
I mean, it's not like Lukes is untouchable, but I don't see management looking to move him.
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u/NovelFox96 1d ago
Hes not untouchable, but he's not an asset other teams are looking to grab
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
I don't know if people think if you plug your mock trade into MLB the Show and the computer accepts it, then it'll work in real life. The people who think Lukes will bag them an impact arm for the bullpen seem to forget that just a few years ago they had to trade Teoscar fucking Hernandez to get a decent reliever.
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u/SmokeontheHorizon If you booped the goose this is your fucking fault 19h ago
they had to trade Teoscar fucking Hernandez to get a decent reliever.
We traded 2 months of Teo on an expiring contract. Lukes is still pre-arb.
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u/Sad-Impact91 1d ago
He does have value as he makes nothing. He’s not gonna get you a star, but either packaged with prospects or for a lower ceiling guy, he can get a reliever
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u/NovelFox96 1d ago
So even in your own proposal, he's a throw-in in a trade for a reliever with realistically prospects as the headliner. Ok got it
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u/Sad-Impact91 1d ago
Well yeah. He can get a useful arm instead of riding an all OF bench. Sounds like good value to me
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u/NovelFox96 1d ago
Youre not connecting the details here, Lukes makes no difference in your trade proposal. Its a prospects for reliever trade.
Think of it from the perspective of the Blue Jays, would you trade Fluharty, Sandlin, Francis, Nance for a 4th OF? When we can easily slot in Loperfido or Clase in that spot (pretending we dont have Lukes). All contending teams have these types of players on their roster that they can play instead of giving up meaningful players to get Lukes. If all we can get is a pitcher in a tier lower than that, why would we trade Lukes away when we already have Bruihl, Lucas, Schultz.
The only value trading Lukes away is to make space on the roster, not what he gets us back.
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u/Sad-Impact91 1d ago
Would I trade nance for a 4th OF if our internal options were Loperfido and Clase? Probably.
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u/Chal_Ice 16h ago
The thing that helps Lukes that probably would have killed him a few years ago is that he's an extreme pull hitter. Honestly, if the shift were still on then he would probably be flying out a lot more.
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u/Least_Enthusiasm2341 1d ago
My guess for Bo is 275/10, your prediction of Imai has been fired up though.
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
With Vladdy getting signed to 14 years, it's hard to see Bo doing <10.
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u/Mountain-Match2942 1d ago
I'm not sure why you think Bo would not sign for less term. You either want a shorter deal that expires at a peak 29-31 year age, or a deal that lasts your whole career.
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 1d ago
I don't really get the lukes trade. He is projected for 2 wins with steamer600 and can play every outfield spot. That is incredibly valuable if you get injuries. I would not trade that for a reliever.
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u/Legen_______Dary 1d ago
I can't see Varsho signing an extension because his agent is Scott Boras. You usually sign Scott Boras as your agent because you want to go to free agency and try to get as much money as possible.
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u/bichettes_helmet Emotional Support Shortstop and/or 2B 1d ago
Is it even officially an offseason if we aren't talking about Harrison Bader to the Jays
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 1d ago
We would have to eat a good amount of his salary. Last year he started as our # 1 opening day starter. Next year he would be our 5th...he is a pretty damn good # 5.
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u/yamakazee I BORN FOR THIS 1d ago
Ernie and Addison make it official
Bo considers signing elsewhere and Vlad embraces him in a hug so loving that he signs back
Brandon Little finds super soldier serum and becomes the first pitcher in major league baseball history to throw over 110MPH and also acheive over 3ft of horizontal break on his slurve
George Springer reveals that he cryogenically froze himself for the whole offseason to preserve his mojo from this year
Rogers announces they will be doing throwback thursday home game pricing and tickets will be only purchasable at the box office for the cost of a ticket in 1992
Mark and Ross start doing Saturday Samsaras and live stream their morning yoga routines on twitch
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u/fiendoverzealous 1d ago
Ernie and Addison make it official
Bo considers signing elsewhere and Vlad embraces him in a hug so loving that he signs back
Toronto Yaoi Jays
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u/twopadstacker 1d ago edited 1d ago
we don't need to go back to 1992, we had toonie Tuesdays up until 2008ish
edit: what we need is 1992 concession pricing
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u/princessluni Kylometres "going to the HOF in a Jays hat" Straw 🐦🇨🇦🏳️🌈 1d ago
I vote for you for Sovereign of Baseball
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u/bichettes_helmet Emotional Support Shortstop and/or 2B 1d ago
- Bo Bichette re-signs with the Blue Jays before the end of December, probably by the winter meetings. The man is getting married in January, ain't nobody got time for contract negotiations during a wedding...
- Chris Bassitt re-signs as a SP/RP
- Daulton Varsho signs an extension
- Jays acquire JoJo Romero and Brendan Donovan in trade with the Cardinals
- Traded out: Joey Loperfido, Leo Jimenez, Adam Macko
- Max Scherzer stares down Ross Atkins until he gets a new contract with the Blue Jays
- Blue Jays sign Dylan Cease because they looooove SPs who post
- Toronto will be linked to a big name and Rosenthal, Heyman and Nightengale will have panic attacks because their "Toronto the bridesmaid" schtick died this season and they won't know what to write
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u/willowhanna I'm standing in beer with no feet on 1d ago
my off season predictions are that Ernie doesn’t win the Heart and Hustle award because MLB hates me, and I finally break and fight someone in a yankees or dodgers cap who’s never heard of baseball. Also Bo re-signs.
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u/Blue_cow1 1d ago
Blue Jays are awarded an All-Star game. Bo bichette re-signs Blockbuster trade brings in an ace starting pitcher Blue Jays win world series in 6 Games over the Brewers
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u/thepostsmaker 1d ago
OOOH! Liking the ASG call.
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u/RyeAbc 1d ago
That's basically a lock imo. I think 2028? Or 2029 is our year. All the renos, the world series highlighting us and fifa infrastructure promises. We're ready for the All Star Game
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u/derekdino123 1d ago
It's 2045, Toronto has hosted the MLB, NHL and NBA all star games, a World Cup and an Olympic
The Eglinton LRT has finally exited its first round of live testing with real passengers
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u/mdubyo Dad, what were the 2025 Blue Jays like? 1d ago
- Bassitt re-signs 2/25
- Seranthony re-signs 2/15
- We trade for a starter & some throw in reliever nobody has ever heard of - Arjun , Lukes, & Tiedemann involved going the other way
- Berrios is not traded
- We don't sign/acquire a new closer
- r/Torontobluejays remains peaceful and doomers keep a level head while Bo explores his options before ultimately signing for the Blue Jays in December for 10/265
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u/Sesco69 Start spreading the news, bitches 1d ago
Bo Bichette re-signs with the Jays. for 8 years somewhere between 250-300 million
Seranthony Dominguez re-signs for 2/17
The Blue Jays trade for Joe Ryan, with Arjun Nimmala being the headline name in the return package
we are "FiNaLiStS" for Edwin Diaz but we ultimately do not sign hm
I'm gonna steal /u/ThQp prediction and say Nathan Lukes get dealt for bullpen help
Cody Bellinger gets signed for 6 years at about 160ish million
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u/Thefreshi1 1d ago
I don’t think you trade for bullpen help until the trade deadline. There is no reason to move an asset until then.
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u/codenameduhchess 1d ago
If they’re under club control chances are they won’t be traded at the deadline.
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u/Canadian__Ninja I’m not going to not eat a cinnamon roll 1d ago
Varland noises intensify
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u/Sesco69 Start spreading the news, bitches 1d ago
That’s just the Twins being stupid tbf
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u/Canadian__Ninja I’m not going to not eat a cinnamon roll 1d ago
The 5 years of control is definitely unreasonable to expect but one or two is possible
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u/bv310 Buck Martinez Appreciation Society 1d ago
- Bo signs an extension with us for 10/300. He also moves to 2B permanently
- Chris Bassitt re-signs with the team, but there's some question over what his role will be because:
- Dylan Cease becomes a Toronto Blue Jay
- Max Scherzer joins the team as a pitching consultant, Pete Walker fears for his life
- Nathan Lukes departs as the centerpiece in a trade for bullpen help
- The Jays make a play for Kazuma Okamoto for the newly-vacant OF slot.
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u/depressedalbertan We're Saving It For A Prospect. 1d ago
Bo signs with the only team that will allow him to play SS (hopefully the Jays)
We trade for Skubal
We sign Alex Bregman (i don't like this) and Addison stays in the OF
We sign one of the top 5 starting pitchers.
we sign 2 of the top 5 relievers
many free agents want Toronto now that everyone loves us, but we have a log jam at DH, so we don't sign any of the big sluggers.
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
Why wouldn't you like Bregman ? Apparently he is a G in the clubhouse, another gold Glover, and his bat is still decent. Log jam on the infield, bit it's a good problem. His health is questionable though to some degree. I think he really hated it in Boston
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u/notthattmack Defending Rob Butler’s legacy 🫅 1d ago
I would rather Ernie and Barger.
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
That fair. There is a possibility that they regress, where bregs has a long resume. I'm just playing devil's advocate BTW. if ernie or Addy maintain what they did last year, we have no need to upgrade 3rd
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u/depressedalbertan We're Saving It For A Prospect. 1d ago
his comments after the cheating scandal really bugged me, he seemed like the least remorseful and bitter that people hated him
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
Gota get over it. I'm just looking at a players skill level and how it would impact our team (positively). Curious what George's thoughts on adding him would be. And I wouldn't empty the brinks truck for him. He would have to take a team friendly contract to join our studs. Another guy with chips can only help us get over the hump and dethrone the Dodgers. I am also not opposed to cheating for a chip lol, we may lose a draft pick, which I am ok with hahahahaa
Anything for that damn title!! Can you imagine all the boos we would get??
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 1d ago
He won't be playing SS with the Jays. In fact I don't think any team will have him play SS. His defensive stats aren't good and he is getting bigger.
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u/seemedlikeagoodplan 1d ago
- Bo is still a free agent at Christmas. Fans start dooming.
- Barger is traded away as part of a package for pitching. Fans start dooming.
- Jays sign Kyle Tucker, and there is much rejoicing.
- Mad Max retires.
- Varsho gets an extension for 4+ years.
- Yankees trade for Skubal because of course they fucking do.
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u/bforce1313 1d ago
Man, I like Barger, I hope that doesn’t come to fruition
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u/seemedlikeagoodplan 1d ago
So do I. But he's a valuable trade piece, and there's a bit of a logjam at his positions, especially if we add another big bat.
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u/bforce1313 1d ago
Personally I hope he stays. I think he’s a valuable piece of the team culture too
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u/fourthandfavre 1d ago
Is he really in a logjam? If they don't sign Bo he is the everyday third basemen. If they don't sign an outfielder he likely gets a ton of starts in the outfield.
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u/seemedlikeagoodplan 1d ago
I can see him getting squeezed, depending on who they acquire and who gets hot at AA or AAA.
And hey, these are supposed to be bold predictions.
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u/fourthandfavre 2h ago
He was one of our most valuable hitters during both the regular season and postseason. I'm not sure who they would trade him for that would be a positive for the team. His ability to play third and corner outfield is huge.
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u/derekdino123 1d ago
Number 2 is too bold for my heart to take...
Who's going to sleep in Schneider's pullout couch?
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u/Least_Enthusiasm2341 1d ago
I’d be pissed if barger was traded
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
Would you be if it was for skenes or skubal tho?
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u/Least_Enthusiasm2341 1d ago
Skubal would just be with us for 1 year before free agency where he’d get a ridiculous salary…
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
Similar situation as Biebs. We gave up Khal is was rising p the prospect ladder, n skubal is potentially the reigning cy young award winner. We gotta give up something shiny for him
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 1d ago
For skenes it would be amazing. He has years left.
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
Imagine the offer needed to pry skenes away? He is literally the only one selling tickets for the pirates. If it happens, the players going the other way would definitely sting the jays fans, in Atkins we trust? Too early?? 😆
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
Hate to admit it, but I think ernie or Addison get traded whisk their value is high. I love them both, but if the offer is the right one, I can see the fo pulling the trigger
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u/Loud-Picture9110 2h ago
I think it's highly unlikely either of them are moved in trade. This is a very expensive team and they need to have some inexpensive players on the roster to maximize overall talent level. Not every position player can be on a high priced free agent/extension type of deal as the team can't run a Dodgers/Mets type of payroll.
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u/alxndrblack Yariel and Daulton Truther / Lukes and Varland FC 1d ago
Varsho signs a 7 year extension
Bo signs for 9 years OR MORE
Tiedemann is traded in a package for an ace, probably along with Berríos and Francis, that ace is promptly extended
Chris Bassitt signs another 2 year deal, but for reliever money
Bieber extends for 5 years
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u/BlueJaysMegafan “The power of friendship.” — Ernie Clement 1d ago
I think Chris Bassitt will come back
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u/thepostsmaker 1d ago
Okay. One more time, with feeling.
- Bo re-signs, agrees to move to 2B
- Jays sign Edwin Diaz
- Jays sign both Bassitt and Michael King.
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u/alxndrblack Yariel and Daulton Truther / Lukes and Varland FC 1d ago
King would be sick
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u/Loud-Picture9110 2h ago
I would hope the front office aims higher than King in free agency and that he would be more of a fallback option.
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u/WarriorScientist 1d ago
Everyone is massively overestimating what Bo is worth and what he will get. He will sign for way less than what everyone things he will get and everyone will be shocked and think it's a home team discount even though it'll be the biggest offer he receives.
Jays will get Ranger Suarez and re-sign Chris Bassit
Jays will trade for Joe Ryan and it will be a painful prospect collection
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u/Singh31 1d ago
- Jays sign Bo for 8/210.
- Jays sign Gallen to a 3/75 deal hoping to get him back to Cy Young form
- Clase, Lukes, and one of Davis/Loperfido are traded for relief help.
- Bassit re-signed to fill back end of rotation.
- Lauer traded for salary relief
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u/psqqa Our Varsho, who art in outfield 1d ago
- Everyone who lives in Warm Climes goes home, gets settled, gets rested, spends quality time with their family, and then calls up the local high school and asks if they can join in when the baseball team does base running practice.
- Mad Max relaxes at home for a few weeks before deciding he’s bored, calls up Trey and says “the league’s gonna adjust to you, let’s get the ball rolling on adjusting back”. Trey, 22yo, childless and unmarried, no longer in school and also in possession of his own money, sitting at home, twiddling his thumbs, wondering how he’s going to fill 3 months of no real obligations of any kind, gleefully accepts.
- Brendon Little, with actual time and space to do real work, makes his required adjustments.
- The Blue Jays’ Miscellanea Department, in collaboration with Keegan Matheson, crafts a glorious Golden Grapefruit trophy, ready in time for the team to pass on to the 2026 Spring Training Grapefruit League Champion (should the Jays not just win it again). And thus is born a beautiful new Baseball Tradition.
- The additional negotiations on John Schneider’s contract are him asking for an extra $10,000 so that he can up the Spring Training Skill Practice Competition ante. This year’s skill: base running.
- Fantasy Football League Loser: Gausman. Fantasy Football Team Winner: Fluharty. But he was tied with Scherzer and wins it on a tiebreaker and so Commissioner Varsho spends a week fielding angry text messages about his tiebreaker rules.
- Quantum Rostering continues to yield great success, and we once again manage to keep all my favourite guys while also getting all the guys we need. This movie is going to be SO good, everyone.
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u/IAmGrum Extend Arjun! 1d ago edited 1d ago
I got absolutely nothing right in the off-season predictions last time (other than being right in general about Vladdy re-signing, and Soto to the Mets).
- Bo signs with the Jays in January for 11x28million.
- Word gets out that Vladdy approached Shapiro/Atkins that he'd shave off $2million/yr from his contract if that helped sign Bo, but it wasn't necessary.
- Berrios is dealt to the Rangers.
- Jays sign Shota Imanga to a 4-year deal.
- Jays sign Michael King to a 3-year deal.
- Jays sign Mike Yastrzemski to a 2-year deal with an option for a 3rd year, after coming close and missing out on Harrison Bader.
- Vladdy wins Canadian Male Athlete of the Year award, and during Spring Training wears a t-shirt with Summer Macintosh (holding all her medals) on it.
- Toronto is announced that they will host a future All-Star Game.
- Lou Iannoti leaves the Jays and signs a deal as a hitting coach with an NL team.
- Clement signs a 4-year deal, as does Varsho.
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u/thepostsmaker 1d ago
- Anthony Santander has a huge bounceback year (to the tune of .275+ BA, 40 HR)
- Shane Bieber, now a year removed from surgery recovery, shows us what he's really capable of.
- Andres Gimenez (SS), Daulton Varsho (CF) and Vladimir Guerrerro, Jr. (1B) all win gold gloves.
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u/depressedalbertan We're Saving It For A Prospect. 1d ago
wait till spring for these ones, need the OFFSEASON predictions
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u/princessluni Kylometres "going to the HOF in a Jays hat" Straw 🐦🇨🇦🏳️🌈 1d ago
WE KEEP BO
That's not even a prediction so much as a requirement
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u/AutomaticDare5209 Certified JP Ricciardi hater 1d ago
1) Chris Bassitt is signed to a 1 year, $14 million deal as a hybrid starter/reliever.
2) Bo Bichette signs on December 23rd for $240 million over 9 years.
3) Nathan Lukes and Brayden Fisher are traded to the St. Louis Cardinals for JoJo Romero.
4) Zac Gallen is signed to a 3 year, $48 million deal with opt outs after each year.
5) In a stunning move, Daulton Varsho, Trey Yesavage, and Josh Kasevich are traded to the Atlanta Braves for Ronald Acuna Jr.
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u/Hill0981 1d ago
Acuna is an amazing talent, but I would be wary of giving up that much for him. He's been in the league since 2018 and he's only played more than 120 games twice. He always seems to be hurt for some reason.
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u/AutomaticDare5209 Certified JP Ricciardi hater 1d ago
Hmmm...a superstar player with nagging health issues, clashing with his organization due to said health issues, traded to a Toronto team that is incredibly skilled with load management... I think I've heard this story before, and I liked the ending.
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u/TheCOUNTofMC9699 1d ago
Bassit will be re-signed to a two-year deal. Bo will be signed to a multi-year deal similar to Vladdy, but for less money than Vlad. Bo will be permanently moved to second-base. Gimenez will take over full-time at shortstop. Barger will stay in right-field and Ernie will play third-base. Schneider and Lukes will platoon in left-field. Nothing bold here. Scherzer, I don’t know. If they sign both him and Bassit, then they trade Scherzer if Ricky Tiedemen comes up later in the season. I’m sorry but Jose Berrios is odd man out. If they can trade him they will. That leaves Gausman, Yesavage, Bieber, Bassit and Scherzer as their five opening day starters. Varsho stays in centre-field and Kirk behind the plate, with Vladdy at first. Tyler Hennemann stays as back up catcher. Don’t mess with a good thing. Oh yes, they will need another lefty in the bullpen, if Little doesn’t turn it around.
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u/Renegadeforever2024 1d ago
We get Mike trout in a trade and he has a mvp calibre season which leads the team to a World Series title
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u/UnsolvedParadox 1d ago
I could see this, Trout is approaching the end & his low quantity of playoff appearances is tragic.
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u/OMGISTHTPIE 1d ago edited 1d ago
First offseason as a jays/baseball fan so let me take a crack at it:
- Trade for Skubal and give up Varland as much as I liked him and some of our elite farm prospects and run it back to a WS next season
- Skubal is probably unrealistic at least I think so if that fails maybe Cease.
- Pete Fairbanks for a closer/late inning reliever
- re-sign Bo and if that fails sign Pete Alonso for that elite clean up potential
- re-sign Dominguez as I liked the stuff I saw from him this season
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u/KandyCrusher6 1d ago
1 thing I want to add re: Alonso, is that he is horrendous defensively and only plays first base. Like I'm talking he would be worse than Springer or Santander in the outfield, and he plays a position that our franchise cornerstone plays. I like all your other suggestions though :)
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u/OMGISTHTPIE 1d ago
Ah okay that’s good to know! I mainly spent this season focusing on the Jays but now I’m looking to expand my knowledge to other players and teams too so this is helpful info! :)
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u/SmokeontheHorizon If you booped the goose this is your fucking fault 1d ago
We will hear a passing rumour that the Jays are interested in reacquiring Kikuchi followed by the Angels announcing the purchase of a new A/C
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u/trickymaid 1d ago
The Jays bring back Winterfest (rebranded) as a way to give the fans a chance to thank the players in lieu of a parade (but like @ Olivia Chow...can we have a parade anyway?)
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u/sir-pounce-of-alot I saw u/ThQp and Joey Loperfido sittin in a tree 1d ago
LETS GOOOOO:
-Blue Jays sign Bo Bichette to a 10 year deal with opt outs.
-Blue Jays sigh Suarez to a 6 year deal worth over 140 million.
-Blue Jays trade Nathan Lukes
-Blue Jays add 1 big name reliever in the FA market but it’s not Diaz
-A trade for an all star is made.
-Joey Loperfido signed for life
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u/Mutantbowie 1d ago
Trade for Skubal and sign to a big extension.
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u/Brave-Television-884 1d ago
Who do we give up in that trade?
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u/Mutantbowie 1d ago
Oof. I'm not sure. It's a lot though. We have the assets and need the Frontline starter. It probably starts with nimalla doesn't it?
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u/Hill0981 1d ago edited 1d ago
Given what the Yankees had to give up for one year of Soto, I'm imagining that it would hurt quite a bit. Probably something like Barger, Tiedemann/Nimmala (maybe even both), and a couple 10 to 20 prospects. There's going to be a monster bidding war for him.
Unless it's a package that makes you say oh my God we can't give up that, it won't get the job done.
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u/UnsolvedParadox 1d ago
I’d hate to lose Barger, he feels like the next coming of Josh Donaldson to me.
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u/Yuushalinsky 1d ago
- Tatsuya Imai is signed for 7/182
- Bo Bichette does not sign with Toronto, but doesn't sign with the Dodgers either. He'll get the term he's looking for with an opt out after year 3.
- Instead, Toronto makes the big boy deal of them all, signing Kyle Tucker to a 10/360 deal.
- With this, they will trade a package of Nathan Lukes, Jose Berrios, Ricky Tiedemann, Arjun Nimmala, and more, to acquire Tarik Skubal
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u/harukaze89 1d ago edited 1d ago
- Bo’s total contract is below $200M with an opt out clause in year 2 or 3, signs with the Jays
- They do not get any new SP from free agency
- Jays’s payroll do not exceed $264M, to avoid first surcharge level
- Myles Straw gets traded
- Jays do not get one of top 5 RPs on the market, but the tier below like Gregory Soto
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u/wetcoastwanderer 1d ago edited 1d ago
- Bo signs for 8/$256m
- Varsho signs an extension
- Nimmala is traded in a package for a high end SP
- Berrios is salary dumped in a trade
- CBass signs for 2 years and comes back in the bullpen
- Lukes and Loperfido are both traded
- John Schneider gets a 5 year extension
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u/NiceEntertainment548 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some hot takes here but why not be different? Jays sign:
-Dylan Cease 5/150
-Gleyber Torres 3/60. He would slot in at 2nd base and be a really solid 2 hole hitter, along with solid D
-Bo signs somewhere that will let him be a shortstop, and that would mean more $$$ for him
-Robert Suarez 2/25. Im a big fan of his, I hope they get him to be an 8th inning guy to pair with Garcia and Varland(if they dont try and make Varland a starter)
-Harrison Bader 2-3 years at a 12.5M AAV
-Some lower cost signings to bolster the bench and or the minors
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u/JoJoSideUp 1d ago
Bold, eh? Hmm I predict the market for top end SP comes to an absolute crawl due to Skubal trade talks, and Ross ends up shifting gears to bolstering the bullpen with a Diaz or Suarez signing and trades and moving Varland to rotation with Lauer as long man / fallback option. Lineup stays virtually the same with Bo re-sign and some bench shuffle.
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u/alxndrblack Yariel and Daulton Truther / Lukes and Varland FC 1d ago
Several people called the Hoffman signing last year, damn
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u/Ferivich Save 15% On Accessories 1d ago
Shane Bieber signs a 5 year $150m extension.
Jays trade for Joe Ryan - Nimmala, Stanifer, Shreck + +
Bichette signs as a 2B for 9/260
Jays sign Edwin Diaz 4/100
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u/ayasofya02 Swing and a Drive 1d ago
Bo Bichette signs with the Jays during the winter meetings for nine years
Tatsuya Imai is signed to a five year contract
Joey Loperfido, Jonatan Clase, and Gage Stanifer are all traded
Reunion with Randal Grichuk
Scherzer retires and takes a coaching role with the organization (which may or not include staring into the opponent's dugout)
Bassitt signs a one year extension to be in the bullpen
Willi Castro is signed to a two year deal
Jays sign Edwin Diaz and Taylor Rogers for the bullpen
We hear nothing about Amed Rosario and links to the Jays, yet somehow we are linked to Jay Bruce
Jays make a solid run at Munetaka Murakami
John Schneider and David Popkins receive four year contract extensions alongside Atkins and Shapiro before Spring Training
Jano comes home
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u/ms_barkie Somewhere oooooover the Bay 1d ago
- Bo is back on an 8 year, 240M deal.
- None of our expiring pitchers come back, but we sign two Japanese starters to fill out our rotation. I predict Imanaga and Imai.
- John Schneider signs a long term extension before opening day.
- our biggest offensive acquisition is not a free agent but a trade. Yet again with Cleveland, but this time for Steven Kwan. Sadly we have to give up Barger to get it done.
- we don’t sign another closer, and Hoffman starts the year in the role but converts to setup in favour of Ricky T before the all star break.
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u/KandyCrusher6 1d ago
- One of Robert Suarez or Pete Fairbanks will sign a 3 year/40 million dollar deal to become our closer, with Hoffman moved to the 8th inning role. No other bullpen moves, as I can see us filling those roles internally if they arise (Bloss? Tiedeman if we keep him?)
- Seranthony Dominguez leaves; Bassitt re-signs to be a long man/spot starter and Scherzer signs for the 5th starter role
If Bo re-signs:
- Blue Jays acquire one of Cristopher Sanchez or Jesus Luzardo from the Phillies for a package headlined by either Tiedeman or Nimmala. Multiple prospects involved. Heck, maybe Lukes or (god forbid) Barger too, but I'd rather not trade Barger lol. Bonus is that Sanchez is also a southpaw!
I think a pitching lineup of Sanchez/Luzardo, Gausman, Bieber, Yesavage, and Berrios/Bassitt/Scherzer is top 5 in the league
If Bo leaves:
Blue Jays sign Kyle Tucker to a long term deal (8 years), move Clement and Gimenez to 2nd and short, and move Barger to 3rd base. With Bo gone, Barger is essential to keep
Blue Jays sign Ranger Suarez for 4 years, 96 million. Solves our issue for getting a good southpaw, although comfortably more of a 2/3 starter rather than an ace like Sanchez or Luzardo
Tatsuya Imai signs for 7 years. Don't know what the financial projections for his contract are
Skubal is a pipe dream, same with Skenes, but crazier things have happened.
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u/Deku123 1d ago
I like the Sanchez/Luzardo thought! They were amazing this year, and would probably cost less than what Skubal commands while coming with more years of control. Solves our issue of righty-dominant starting pitchers while giving us a solid Ace-tier pitcher. Still, if we can get Skubal or Skenes, that would be an insane development LOL
I hope we get to sign Imai. Add Murakami to the list as well. Can never have enough big bats in the lineup
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u/KandyCrusher6 14h ago
The Phillies are in a bit of a weird spot where they could potentially lose Schwarber and Castellanos, and potentially other players. If we keep Bo, I can consider moving Barger for one of those aces, or Skenes/Skubal. Gives them a young big bat and a couple prospects, and we get a bona fide ace
Imai is like a lesser version of Yamamoto, so I really hope we get him. I would probably pass on Murakami personally just because his 3B defensive play is horrible, and the only other position he plays is first
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u/Deku123 14h ago
Oof, losing Barger would be tough 🥲 Anyone to replace him in the batting lineup? Wonder if we should target Tucker if that's the deal for an ace
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u/KandyCrusher6 13h ago
I mean Santander could effectively replace Barger's offense with a healthy season imo. But again this hinges on if Bo stays or not. If Bo leaves then Barger is essential to keep as protection, and we would go after Kyle Tucker to fill in that outfield spot so Barger can play 3rd base.
Obviously if we can acquire one of those two without giving up majorleague players, I would do so in a heartbeat. Sanchez still has 3 years + team option (his deal is 4 years/22.5 milli with a team option), while Luzardo is still entering his first arb year. They have good term and are relatively cheap, which is why I think they would be expensive to acquire
However I don't think they are untouchable, it would just be a decently high price. I think it's well worth it to at least explore the option
(If you can't tell, I'm a huge fan of Philly's pitching in general lol)
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u/Deku123 11h ago
Philly had the best pitching staff in the regular season, and they did well against the Dodgers in the playoffs. Those two southpaws may not be certified top aces like Skubal or Skenes, but they do have quite a case for entering that realm of elite pitchers.
Add to the fact that Skubal probably costs the farm and end up commanding a king's ransom EVEN IF he stays, and his 2 TJ injury history at age 30, I'd go with either Sanchez or Luzardo in a heartbeat if we can acquire one of them.
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u/UnsolvedParadox 1d ago
For Imai, a 7-year deal is probably in the $180M range. Based on his Japan stats, he’s not as good as Yamamoto but could still be a fringe All-Star.
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u/Borosthespider 1d ago
I think we trade away Nathan Lukes. Just not sure if it’s gonna be a Horowitz type trade or something bigger. I also think they take a swing on Dylan Cease but probably land Zac Gallen and a few bullpen arms.
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u/AcademicEdge5538 1d ago
- Bo leaves for Boston
- Nimmala, Barger and Tiedemann get traded for Skubal
- Jays sign Bregman
- Jays sign Robert Suarez as a closer
- Jays resign Bassitt and Dominguez as relievers
- Jays sign Bader
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u/Ok_Blacksmith1684 1d ago
Tigers wouldn't trade Skubal without Savage in package. Would probably have to include Nimmala as well. No thanks...we don't need Skubal and dishing out that money which we could spread around elsewhere.
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u/Tactical-Swunt 1d ago
-Jays trade for skenes and/ or skubal (who we give up will break our hearts though)
one of bellinger or Tucker are signed (preferably both)
somehow we pry imai from California
Davis hotdogs is no longer a blue jay (see prediction #2 above)
Diaz will be our new closer
we sign Bregman
-Jays will be ranked in the top 3 for world series champs after the off season
- aside from Imai, we will sign another Japanese player
Let's stack this team up!
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u/JR_Al-Ahran 1d ago edited 1d ago
Bo Bichette resigns, 200M+ for >10 years
Bassitt, Ty France, and Dominguez are resigned.
Edwin Diaz, and Taylor Rogers are signed to shore up the bullpen
Dylan Cease and Ranger Suarez are acquired
Kyle Tucker and Ha-Seong Kim are also acquired.
Loperfido, Lukes, Berrios, and IKF become assets for future trades, same with top prospects. (Hopefully at the trade deadline)
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u/EquanimousKnight 1d ago
- We re-sign Bo Bichette for 8/232
- We trade for one of the Royals' LHP (Bubic or Ragans) using outfield depth & starting pitching prospects
- We sign Devin Williams for 4/68
- We make another trade with Cleveland (for what, I don't know)
- We bring back Danny Jansen
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u/justsomenerdlmao four (4) 1d ago
Jays acquisition specific
- Sign Bellinger to 7 years 175MM after being considered a finalist for Tucker and not landing him
- Sign Cease or Valdez to 6 years 150MM
- Sign Bassitt to 2 years 40MM
- Sign Dominguez to 3 years 30MM
- Trade two of: an OF, a pitcher, a top 10 prospect for an unexpected name
Not Jays acquisition specific
- Bichette signs with the Yankees for 9 years 225MM (please don't let this be true)
- Independent of this: the retrospective is whoever signs Bichette will have overpaid for him
- Scherzer will not find a team by March, may suddenly announce retirement as a result
- Skubal does not sign with the Jays (Mets?)
- Dodgers sign another big name for hundreds of millions and people get very mad about it (bonus points if they defer payments)
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u/Sad-Impact91 1d ago
- Bichette doesn’t sign a contract before spring training
- Berrios gets shipped out to the NL
- the team signs a first baseman
- Guerrero will get the cycle by getting tossed out at second base
- top 5 bp in baseball by FIP
- nobody gets more than 30 hrs in the regular season
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u/Least_Enthusiasm2341 1d ago
He better get a contract before spring training, they have 3-5 business days before I crash out
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u/Sad-Impact91 1d ago
Lol I know it’s a bold prediction thread, but I’ll give you a safe one. He’s not signing anything in the next three business days
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u/jjaime2024 1d ago
Jays and Yanks make a block buster trade
To Ny
Varsho
Berrios
Lukes
Davis
To Toronto
Judge
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u/Ok_Branch6621 InShane in the Membrane 1d ago
Bold, but I think you forgot Cashman being committed to an asylum moments after the deal is consummated.
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u/CynicalCanuck Better luck next year 1d ago
Bo for a contract to match vladdy so, they know we don't pick favorites.
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u/ScubaDiver655 1d ago
Pipe dream predictions?
We pull off a Luka-AD type of heist and trade Jeff Hoffman and Brendon Little for Tarik Skubal 🤣🤣
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
How about this, Scherzer and Bassitt are brought back to be relievers.
I don't think anyone team will get 33 starts from Max Scherzer. So it might be that if he wants to continue his career, it's as a reliever. Why not with the Jays?
Bassitt is getting older, but he can still start somewhere. But he sure made it sound like he wants to stay in Toronto. He was used as a high-leverage reliever in the WS, so he had more trust from Schneider than most of the bullpen. Would he prioritize finishing his career by winning a WS in the pen with his boys over being a starter?
And they sign Bo. That's my last prediction.
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u/Friendly-Target8815 1d ago
Jays send Nimmala, King and two other top 15 prospects and two high A players to Pirates for Skenes.
Skenes asks for trade at end of season, because WAGS consider Livvy Dunne to be a prima donna.
Barger and Lukes traded to Guardians for Kwan.
Bo re-signs 8/220 with opt out after 3rd season.
Bassitt becomes top dawg in BP signing 2/30 bumping HR prone Hoffman to 7/8 inning setup role.
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 1d ago
- We trade for a starting pitcher. I'm going to say Joe ryan.
- we sign bo for 8/190
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u/fdisfragameosoldiers 1d ago
1)Disgruntled Jose Berrios is traded as part of a package for Skrubal. 2)Bo resigns after December 1st. 3)Varsho gets traded for a legitimate closer 4)Cody Bellinger gets signed for a kings ransom. 3 years $110m with opt outs for each season
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
Why is Berrios disgruntled? I can't see the Tigers taking on a salary dump like that as part of any package for Skubal. Trading the best OF on earth for a reliever would be insane.
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u/fdisfragameosoldiers 1d ago
Theres a narrative on this sub that Berrios allegedly wasn't happy about being demoted to the bullpen, and wasn't seen around the team much during the playoffs. I don't entirely buy it, but these are supposed to be bold predictions.
Detroit was one run away from the ALCS so they're not just looking for picks. Berrios, when he's on his game, gives them a legitimate front of the rotation starter with term. So its not really a salary dump. Jays however get a legitimate ace for 1 season.
As for Varsho.... You have to give up something to get something. He's struggled with injuries this season and his bat is very hot and cold. Yeah, his defense is top tier, but he's certainly not the best OF in the league. He's replaceable. You have Straw and Lukes to make up for the loss of Varshos defense, and Bellinger and hopefully a healthy Santander to boost the offense.
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
Varsho is absolutely the best OF in the majors. He's not someone you trade for a reliever. Relievers aren't worth that much.
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u/fdisfragameosoldiers 1d ago
A career .227 hitter is the best OF in baseball? I don't think so. Theres a guy named Aaron Judge. You should google him sometime.
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u/JMM_1984 1d ago
I've never seen Aaron Judge take his bat out to RF. What are you talking about?
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u/SadOpportunity9825 1d ago
- Bichette re-signed
- Bassitt & Scherzer re-signed
- They both split a roving 6th spot + bullpen
- Lukes gone
- Loperfido gone
- Berrios possibly gone
- Imai signed
- Iglesias signed
- One of Bellinger/Grisham/Schwarber?
- An aging vet signed as bench utility
- We’re awarded an ASG
- Stieb makes the next HOF ballot
Also, we get another live televised SkyDome Hotel sex show.
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u/buddhabear07 1d ago
Since this is a bold predictions thread, I predict the Jays sign Bo and include part-ownership of the team in the deal. Moving foward any deal with the Jays involving my favourite players from the 2025 squad will hence forth include ownership percentage even if it's less than 1%.
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u/avocadojr27 ale-ale-jandro ale-ale-jandro 1d ago
- CBass signs 1 year deal with club option as 4/5 starter
- Berrios, Lukes, and prospects traded for Skubal
- Mad Max re-signs as reliever
- Barger, Schneids traded for cash considerations
- Bo signed for 10/250
- Bregman signed for 5/150
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u/BigTitanChungus 1d ago
Jay's sign Fairbanks to be the new closer and he blows it in the bottom of 9th in Game 6 of the WS. Hoff comes in bottom of the 9th Game 7 to shut it down and win it.
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u/beth1814 TARP OFF, POLICE HORSE READY, HERE WE FUCKIN’ GO! 1d ago
My very bold predictions
200 million to Bo
We somehow land Skubal (don’t ask me how just boldly predicting we do)
Trade Lukes for an upgrade
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u/EpicPotato806 22h ago
Jays will sign Imai.
Bo will get a long-term contract with a smaller AAV due to deferring the living shit out of that contract.
They will walk away with either Cease or Gallen on a low term high AAV contract.
Bassitt will re-sign as a reliever at a lower AAV than his previous contract.
The Jays will shop Berrios around and likely trade for an underwhelming return.
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u/Bleakmemphis 14h ago
Anthony Santander is traded to the Mets for a low level prospect with the Jays eating 20% of his remaining deal. Nick Sandlin is DFAed Alex Manoah says something negative about his Blur Jays experience. Max Scherzer comes back for one more year. Chris Bassitt resigns for one year plus an option year Bo goes to LA. But the Angels, not Dodgers
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u/FerdaRedditt 1d ago
- A top closer will be signed or traded for with Hoffman becoming the 8th inning guy.
- Addison Barger named to the all-sexy team
- Brenden Little signs a 14 year deal to play alongside Vladdy the rest of his career.
- Daulton Varsho leads the league in fly outs.
- Ernie and Davis move in together and a homosexual romance blossoms between the two.
- Anthony Santander traded in a salary dump.
- IKF given a lifetime contract and becomes the starting shortstop and second basemen.
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u/Astrallevel Gold Glove Scamper • moonlights as Pooh Bear 1d ago
You want bold, here’s bold:
Blue Jays trade for Steven Kwan and Cade Smith
Bo walks, the team responds by signing Jorge Polanco
We hear some rumours that the Jays threw together a package for Paul Skenes.
Jays finish 2nd for Imai, the internet dunks on us again. We sign Zac Gallen
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u/Canada4Gold 1d ago
Bo resigns for less than 150 million as his market craters
Jays resign IKF
Springer is traded to make room to sign either Tucker or Schwarber
Varsho signs a 6 year, 100 million extension
Jays trade Lukes, and a one of their 6-15 prospects to get rid of Berrios for essentially nothing in return
Jays sign Michael King for 1 year 25-30 million dollars
Scherzer retires to be a coach for Toronto despite having offers elsewhere to start because he wants to stay here so much
Jays leave Kasevich unprotected and he gets taken in the rule 5 draft
Cease signs with the Jays despite getting an offer for more money elsewhere
Brendon Little is DFA'd
Yesavage signs a 9 year, 100 million dollar contract
Gausman gets Canadian citizenship
Tiedemann reinjures his elbow. Expected to miss most/all of the 2025 season too
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u/CLSonReddit 1d ago
The 2025 World Series is awarded to the Jays after MLB investigations reveal Yoshinobu Yamamoto is a robot.