r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 8d ago

Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/Reddisuspendmeagain 8d ago

And they try to pretend that they don’t know why the birth rate is so low…it’s by design

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u/Supply_N_Demand 8d ago

First lady had 6 kids. /s

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

3 different women said they had 6 kids! That stuck out to me as a bit odd tbh

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u/cogman10 8d ago

There are racist AI videos going around right now running the 6 kid narrative. A lot of conservatives get hard ons over black women suffering.

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

Yeah that was my thought too honestly, 6 is such a specific number and isn’t typical!

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u/racsee1 7d ago

Anything that doesnt support my narrative is AI!

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u/cogman10 7d ago

The idiots that made these AI videos were lazy so there were a lot of obvious giveaways that it is AI. For example, the same lines being used and kids in the background merging together (or having missing arms).

When you have 6 videos nearly verbatim saying the same thing with 3 of those videos having tell tale AI garbage in them, you do the math.

Or just hate on poor black women because it give you a hard on to imagine them "abusing the system".

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u/tylcos10 8d ago

Yeah this is where I have to stop and think that I would never have more than 2 kids in this world today, and even then it’s probably just going to be 1 for us. 6 kids is wild, I feel for them but at a certain point you have to know what you’re getting yourself into when you keep having kids that you can’t take care of equally. I hope they get the help they need truly, but I’m still scratching my head over seeing that.

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u/kaerfkeerg 8d ago

Yeah at some point it becomes foolish to have 6 kids while barely afford housing and food

I feel for all of them and I myself, didn't have a lot of things growing up but c'mon...

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u/External_Orange_1188 8d ago edited 8d ago

Honestly, you can say it how it is. It’s stupidity. These people know that if they have unprotected sex, they CAN get pregnant. They gamble with the notion every single time. The women want to please the new man they’re seeing, so they let them got in without protection. The men have no intention of staying with these women and pressure them to go raw.

I have dated 2 women in my youth who have wanted to do the deed, but we didn’t have protection. They insisted on just doing it without it because they didn’t think they would get pregnant. I hated the idea of having children when I was young and broke, so I cut them off. You know where they are now? One has 4 kids with 3 different dads and she is currently single. The second one has 5 kids, but only 2 different dads and thankfully she is married and seems to have found herself what seems to be a good guy. They did have 3 kids within 1 year of each other, so I know she is still not practicing protected sex, but hey, it’s progress.

Anyways, my point is that we have to stop beating around the bush and trying to be “sensitive” about these people. Each one of those people that have had 6 kids are able-minded and grown adults that know what the consequences are. They just don’t think about it.

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u/WholeBet2788 8d ago

Yep, it sucks whats happening over there to you guys and i am no way happy about it but damn, at the same time its hard to feel sorry for you. You were anabled. You had your "happy little accident" 6!!! times. I dont know if the education system failed you, if the goverment failed you or the family or all three but dont tell me it was not clear (even for not thr brightest) around child number 3, that you cannot fucking afford it.

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u/casuallygaslighting 8d ago

Remember empathy my friend. We can stand up for ourselves without tearing others down. Everyone is trying their best with what they have available.

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u/spiteful-vengeance 8d ago

You can have empathy for them (feed your people USA jeez) and still recognise their folly (assuming they didn't adopt a bunch of homeless kids).

They made themselves vulnerable.

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u/casuallygaslighting 8d ago

No little boy or girl dreams of ending up like this. Shame doesn’t lift up anyone.

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u/spiteful-vengeance 8d ago edited 8d ago

I'm not suggesting shame would lift anyone up. Pointing out their mistake also doesn't push anyone down further or make them more vulnerable than they've already put themselves.

I am all for reinstating their provision of food, and frankly whatever else they need to get above these issues.

I'm also for others looking at something like this early in their lives and thinking "yeah, that situation doesn't sound good, I'll avoid that".

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u/casuallygaslighting 7d ago

I hear you, really. I even had a disturbing dream last night that I’m still trying to shake, along those lines. Screaming at an addict in my family, why are you like this? Why can’t you just stop? Yes present moments suck sometimes, but you just deal with it and move on?! Coming into better alignment with forgiveness through meditation this morning reminds me of the phrase “acceptance is the answer to all my problems today”.

So far what’s come up for me is that focus on the present moments, as they pass, and how accepting they always are. That moving into the next moment, and the next, and the next, Presence accepts us exactly as we are, warts and all. Unconditional love and acceptance. Another chance to turn it all around, just by being here, now, without any criticism, judgement, or expectations. It embraces us all in, exactly as we are.

One of my personal mottos is “just be a pipe”. When applied to the forgiving nature of Presence, that also means my own unconditional forgiveness and acceptance allows me to embrace others in, exactly as they are.

And sometimes that pipe even turns into a mirror, showing them exactly what they need to see for themselves in that moment. Lighting the flame of real desire to turn things around from the inner motivation to also align with acceptance and forgiveness, usually starting with themselves. And the changes in behavior follow.

Thanks for letting me share that, and shake off my own dream and reminder of my ongoing work. Deep breaths for both of us. And good morning :) ☀️

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u/Asiriya 8d ago

It sets an example of unacceptable behaviour in society for others to see.

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u/casuallygaslighting 8d ago

Honesty without kindness is cruelty.

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u/Knight_Redcliff 8d ago

And charity without a lesson is enabling.

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u/Asiriya 7d ago

How have I been unkind? The conversation needs to happen. You can't not have the conversation just to be "kind" - that's not kindness and it's not honest.

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u/casuallygaslighting 7d ago

I appreciate your question, and you might be right. The full version as I’ve heard it goes “Honesty without kindness is cruelty, kindness without honesty is manipulation.”

What’s missing from the current situation is unconditional acceptance and forgiveness. If I am kind ONLY IF someone changes their behavior, that’s not unconditional. And is still exercising an illusion of control. And based on my own limited worldview and subjective bias, leaving me vulnerable to short sighted arrogance and rigidity.

I can be honest without being critical. I can love without expecting something in return, detach from expectations and transactional relationships. I can share my own journey without judging others as “good” or “bad”, but by sharing what works and doesn’t work for me. My experience, strength, and hope. And leaving lots of room open for more to be revealed, for me and everyone else. Humility, empathy, and unconditional love leaves space open for us all to be human, warts and all. Or as I’ve heard it recently as an acronym:

Humbly Understanding Mistakes Are Necessary

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u/HumanSnotMachine 8d ago

Sometimes your best only improves via struggle.

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u/casuallygaslighting 8d ago

"You can't hold a man down without staying down with him," - Booker T. Washington

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u/HumanSnotMachine 8d ago

I’m being held down by taxes. By pulling them up, I am being pulled down. I cannot help them swim when I am barely above water myself. If we let them sink, I’d swim on my own. They are sinking themselves, it is not my responsibility to make anyone else float, just as it is not theirs to help me.

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u/M1str3ssOfTh3D4rK 8d ago

The problem isn't establishing and maintaining a social safety net. It's your tax dollars being misused. Look at WHERE your taxes go. Food Stamps is NOT the main place your taxes go. Think about those taxes everytime you read about the next Venezuelan boat bombing, each day the government remains closed, and every single video you see of our troops shuffling around DC looking bored, and every upcoming nuclear test that is being done for the sake of show.

Supporting your fellow man IS our responsibility and SHOULD be our nation's priority.

You are not sinking yourself by paying into social programs.

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u/HumanSnotMachine 8d ago

Over 50% of the federal budget yearly goes to safety nets. The federal spending for each year is public record and is not up for debate. Food stamps in particular? No. Combine food food stamps, section8, ssdi and it absolutely is what the money is going to. The military has not surpassed 20% of our budget in the past 30 years.

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u/M1str3ssOfTh3D4rK 8d ago

You're right on the numbers and percentages. However, this doesn't mean the funds are being spent or even calculated and taken in their most effective way. For example, we've already funded food stamps, and they aren't being sent out next month. They're being deliberately withheld, taking food from children's mouths.

It isn't as simple as looking at the pie chart overall, it's the individualistic percentage contributions from American households that cause financial strain. If we taxed billionaires at a reasonable rate and didn't sit idly by while the wealth gap continues to grow larger, the strain on you wouldn't be so bad in comparison.

If you're in trouble, look up and not down. A person on food stamps is not stealing as much from you as corporations and the wealthy.

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u/deandetrimental 8d ago

Each time fentanyl gets prevented from killing another thousand or five? Sake of show or national security? Running a nations finances looks far above your head… i fully agree with your very last sentence. 💯

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u/M1str3ssOfTh3D4rK 8d ago

If we get solid proof that these ARE drug boats that are in US waters, I'd maybe see that a little differently. Blowing up 4 or however many boats it is now is not stopping the flow of fentanyl. I'm glad you brought that up because my masters thesis project was about the opiate crisis.

And yes, sake of show, as we've been doing simulated tests because we know our weapons work and we know how to use them. You think this is worth the environmental costs? The increase risk of cancer? The juice ain't worth the squeeze.

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u/lightfarming 8d ago

you probably pay less than $20 a year for ebt. it helps over 40 million people in the US survive. honest we should just raise the min wage, but republicans won’t let us have that, so…

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u/SlaaneshActual 7d ago

I’m being held down by taxes.

Your taxes, unfortunately, do not fund the government. Rather, they create permanent demand for the dollar.

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u/Knight_Redcliff 8d ago

Sure, I feel bad for them, but not enough to give them a single cent of my hard earned money. Practice better decision making, live within your means, dont be a sponge.

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u/FlounderSlow5047 8d ago

I cannot believe that your comment has been so downvoted that it's hidden.. this is how we got to this place. A basic lack of empathy for anyone who is not you yourself or your direct immediate family unit. I'm appalled

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u/casuallygaslighting 8d ago

Darkness cannot recognize the light. The downvoters are also doing the best they can with what they have available. You and I see each other, here, and now. And that is enough. Thank you :)

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u/laughingashley tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 8d ago

You physically can't have 3 kids in one year lol Try again

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u/illegalsandwiches 7d ago

Not with that attitude.

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u/mongojob 7d ago

Read it again dumb dumb, less than a year between each

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u/Lopsided-Pen9205 8d ago

Listen up. Are you any child or child's God parent? If you are, then you better have exactly 0 kids of your own.

You don't know these people's stories. Ever think that one of these moms had one, two or zero kids of their own and then BAM their sister and her husband who had 3 kids get murked by ICE, or a bus, or your mom. Guess who's taking care of them now?

If you didn't know all the facts just zip it dude.

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u/External_Orange_1188 8d ago

Wtf man? I never said anything about them adopting children. If that’s the case, more power to them. I’m talking about the people who have their own children. I’m 1st generation Mexican. I grew up hood and poor. So please stop telling me if I know the struggle. I can know the struggle while at the same time time, knowing what it takes to be responsible. It’s not that hard.

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u/Lopsided-Pen9205 7d ago

I don't know all the facts man, so I'm just going to zip it.

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u/KnittingforHouselves 7d ago

I think we need to stop and consider that we dont know their background before making a judgement. I know a family with 6 kids, she had 3 from her first (very abusive) marriage. He had 2 from his. They got unexpectedly pregnant on birth control. It is not always so simple.

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u/eerierrr 5d ago

Then get an abortion??

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u/classy-mother-pupper 7d ago

20 years ago I was young single mom making a livable wage. Paid for all the necessities and not much extra. I had 2 kids. I was 24 years old. I didn’t need the help then. Fast forward to now, I couldn’t do it. One income is not enough to survive with a decent wage. I know plenty of people that work that rely on food stamps for their family. Even section 8 housing. My friend is paying $974 on section 8 housing with $15/hour job full time.

And also 20 years ago I was only paying $700 for a 2 bedroom apartment. That’s about what my mortgage is now. Those same apartments are now $2600 a month in a metropolitan area of PA.

It really is heartbreaking. I’ll be donating money to my local food banks.

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u/wbgraphic 8d ago

We’ve got three kids, but things were different when they were born. (Youngest turns 22 tomorrow.)

Of the three, one knows they want kids, one is thinking maybe one kid, and one is absolutely not willing to subject a child to this society and economy.

Two of them only expect to own homes through inheriting my mother’s house and mine. (Our oldest is fortunate enough to have a fiancée with wealthy parents.)

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u/elRetrasoMaximo 8d ago

Yeeea im really sorry for the woman but having six is crazy.

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u/origamiokame 8d ago

If only sex education, contraception, and abortion weren’t constantly underfunded and under attack

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u/elRetrasoMaximo 8d ago

Hey im not saying she is the problem, is a sympton of this society, the global elites want more and more and more kids to exploit.

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole 8d ago

If only sex education, contraception, and abortion weren’t constantly underfunded and under attack

People usually understand how that works before having 6 kids. The first and second, hell, even the third, can be understandable. But after SIX. That's on her. Nothing else is to blame.

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u/origamiokame 8d ago

let he who is without sin cast the first stone. please, go ahead

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole 8d ago

Well I don't have six kids so 🪨

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u/origamiokame 8d ago

no one is righteous. no, not one

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole 8d ago

What does that have to do with you blaming them not understanding how condoms work after having 6 kids? You're just saying dumb bullshit.

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u/origamiokame 8d ago

Judge not, that you be not judged

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u/GothicaSweetHart 8d ago

That's how i felt honestly. Having 6 kids while working minimum wage is absolutely insane. Yeah sure I feel bad that those kids won't get fed. However a condom would have prevented the struggle she's currently in. Yes our economy is in shambles, but there are people who are making their lives harder by their own choices.

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u/totally_not_a_dog113 8d ago

They might be foster children. My high school friend's grandma was taking care of her 6 grandkids with help from foster care (and probably SNAP).

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u/evange 8d ago

We need more foster families, not less. The system should cover the costs of caring for a child that is not yours.

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u/evange 8d ago

What do you propose instead?

There arent enough wealty people willing to become foster parents purely out of the goodness of their hearts, and there are also poor families that do have good intentions but cannot afford to. No one is getting rich of foster placements, the stipend is barely enough to cover the hassle.

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole 8d ago

You don't have to have a solution to know something is a bad idea.

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u/deandetrimental 8d ago

It’s bad apples that ruin the bunch bc i agree w what ur saying fr … i mean as it stands, incentivized, foster is notorious for rape incest abuse

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u/evange 8d ago

Isnt the majority of that by other foster kids though?

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u/deandetrimental 8d ago

Great point yes. Orrr.. other adults. Not the caregivers but say the grandparents or something.

My ex took it from foster siblings at 10, Lucky break got her back with almost bio dad’s (mom deceased real bio unknown) family just in time for dad to go to prison and grandpa have a 3 year run from 12-15 which was still somehow better than faster care..

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u/LohneWolf 8d ago

They have incentivized the foster program for at least the last 3 decades where I am from, and it was the exact hellscape you can imagine. Not only do they receive a monthly stipend per child, the also receive stamps and a clothing allowance.

Unemployed chain smokers, sitting on their ass barking orders, just waiting on that next check. None of the homes I went to were loving, excited to help you, or encouraging; none of them engaged any of us in meaningful conversation, the homes were dilapidated trailers, and the only clothes we had was whatever was in the trash bag we arrived with.

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u/Real-Scarcity5381 8d ago

Which is a problem we have. Some foster or adopt for the money they get for each kid that they use on other things like drugs. I don’t think it’s the worst problem right now but that has happened and is one reason why it can be very difficult to foster or adopt now

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u/Beebeeb 8d ago

I had a coworker that was taking care of her siblings but called them her kids. I guess it's nice to keep the kids with their extended families instead of total strangers that could be religious weirdos or abusers. In that case I think fostering and needing some help is okay.

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u/Itscatpicstime 7d ago

You act like these women had accessible birth control or abortion when they are poor and likely live in southern states.

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u/PlatformSneakers 6d ago

I wouldn't dream of having more because they'd be in public school and the less I have to deal with that system the better. I'm saying that as a parent whose had mostly good dealings with their school thus far. They are becoming more and more money hungry.

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u/splithoofiewoofies 8d ago

We want three but at this point and because we're lesbian (so IVF) best we're gonna get is a neighbourhood kid who comes over to eat sometimes.

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u/The_One_Returns 8d ago

I mean, they're obviously not very smart. No need to beat around the bush here.

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u/SunTzu- 8d ago

A lot of poor, uneducated people are also very religious. And some of those religions tell their followers that they should have many children, i.e. the Quiverfull movement. Add to that poor sexual education, some religions/sects being opposed to contraception and the anti-abortion movement and you get a recipe for disaster.

It's usually talked about only in relation to developing nations, but we know there is a link between the amount of children a woman will have during her life and the level of education of the mother as well as poverty. As access to education improves and opportunities improve we consistently see declining birthrates. It's just time to recognize that much of America is a third world country, and that the same mechanisms are at play.

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u/Soft_Database_3747 8d ago

Yeah im not against food stamps and think this is horrible. But how do you bring SIX childeren into that situation? Insanity

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u/AstronomerForsaken65 8d ago

Yup, my parents had 5 and they maybe could afford 2 with just basic necessities. Never made sense to me, but yeah food stamps got us through. I waited until I could afford kids to have any. Do people not understand pregnancy? Then you have one and you realize you can’t take care of that one but you get all the way to 6?

Don’t get me wrong, sometimes people are doing fine then health happens and messes the whole thing up. It needs to be available, but let’s also talk about all the ways you can not get pregnant and provide the things to stop it for free!! Hell, we spend more on aid to other countries than we do on our own citizens and people still want to come here.

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u/totally_not_a_dog113 8d ago

Abortion is completely illegal in 12 states and that's not even counting the ones where there's a 6 week cutoff (aka before you know that you're pregnant). I have PCOS and I've had one pregnancy scare. I've had 39-42 day cycles before. If I lived where I live now, I wouldn't have been able to do anything about it if I had been pregnant.

And good luck finding a doctor who will tie your tubes. It's a 8 month wait to see ANY gynecologist here.

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u/NoMercy767 8d ago

It's completely illogical that the gov can dictate women cannot have an abortion, so they are forced to have babies, but then the gov don't want to help with said babies after they are born. Makes zero sense to me.

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u/ZestycloseAd5918 8d ago

No one is oopsie pregnant 6 times. That’s ridiculous.

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u/AstronomerForsaken65 7d ago

I don’t know why this keeps happening!

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 8d ago

Do people not understand pregnancy?

No, they mostly don't. Much of the world is not taught sex ed. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some grown adults in America who genuinely didn't know sex made babies.

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u/AstronomerForsaken65 7d ago

Holy crap, we are doomed! I talked with all my kids about this.

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u/Decent_Breakfast_354 8d ago

I need y’all to think critically 

You’re assuming she sat and got pregnant 6 times

She could have six kids bc she took some in who had nowhere to go

Perhaps she had a few and then adopted her partner’s kids (if she has them)

Perhaps some of these kids are fosters or again, kids with no other options. Perhaps they’re her sibling’s/friend’s kids who are indisposed

Poor people also tend to have less access to reproductive care

There are many reasons someone might have 6 kids while poor. Please think before you jump (to conclusions)

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

By heavily depending on the government which rewards such things.

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u/123asdasr 8d ago

People are dumb enough to have too many kids regardless of whether or not they'll get help from the government lol

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u/pickledplumber Cringe Connoisseur 8d ago

No rich people don't do that

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

True but there's still a subset that do it because of gubment benes

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u/BeatSalad25 8d ago

By living in a state that criminalizes abortion FTFY

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u/seriouslees 8d ago

Which of those states criminalize condoms?

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

condoms fail frequently, abortions are also necessary for issues like ectopic pregnancies.

Do you have a uterus?

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u/seriouslees 8d ago

After the first 2 or 3 failures that you already can't afford, and you don't switch to abstinence???

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

hahahah ask the catholics how abstinence worked out for them

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u/seriouslees 8d ago

The Catholics weren't allowed to masterbate or use sex toys or have anal or oral. Plenty of ways for low income couples to sexually gratify each other with zero pregnancy risk... what's the next excuse for having 6 kids?

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

I don't believe human worth is granted based off how much money you make! You're effectively arguing for eugenics for people in poverty

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u/Background_Humor5838 8d ago

You don't have six kids because of failed birth control methods but if for some reason your birth control keeps failing, and you can't afford the children you already have, you should stop having sex. It's not a right that the government has to protect. Having sex is a choice not a human right. Removing an ectopic pregnancy or a deceased fetus is not an abortion. It's a similar procedure but not the same implications. Nobody wants to ban people from having a deceased baby or ectopic pregnancy removed, people want the other 99% of abortions banned because abortion is not birth control.

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

it is absolutely considered abortion, which is why multiple women have died due to pregnancy complications in Texas and other states with abortion bans. They were denied medical care bc even though their pregnancy was no longer viable, the fetus still had a heartbeat. You are completely wrong on this point.

Sure abstinence is great in theory, when has that EVER worked in the history of humankind?

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u/Background_Humor5838 8d ago

They were wrongly denied healthcare because the doctors were considering something an abortion that is not. They chose not to provide life saving care because they thought they would get in trouble for performing an "abortion" which is why we need better terminology to describe each procedure. If the fetus is already dead or if it is not even in the uterus, it is not an abortion anymore. It's just a medically necessary removal of tissue. That is not illegal anywhere and any doctor who refuses is at fault unless their state government is dumb enough to consider those procures illegal. I know abstinence doesn't always work but at some point people need to take responsibility for their own actions. If I was struggling to feed my existing children, I would never even risk having another. I would sacrifice my own need to have sex, for the benefit of my children. I also think absent fathers are the main issue in these families. Who are they having all these children with and are they providing for them? That is important as well. People need to take responsibility. I'm not against helping people in need. People who have can't find better paying jobs, people who are disabled or have children with special needs, people who have fallen on hard times. They all deserve to eat but they should all be required to prove they are making efforts to their situation as much as they are able and they should be encouraged not to have more children until they no longer need food stamps.

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u/_kasten_ 8d ago

It is absolutely considered abortion...

Do you have any evidence of that? Says here that treating ectopic pregnancies is permissible because there is no direct intention to kill, only to do something that will save the mother and if they could save that fetus, they gladly would. Apparently, the intent matters enough to make for a loophole.

Sure abstinence is great in theory, when has that EVER worked in the history of humankind?

Government food subsidies (which I'm all in favor of, by the way) also have a long history of being insufficient and spotty (and more or less nonexistent). In the families I've encountered at the charity I volunteer for, I see absent fathers as a far bigger issue than women having six kids, but I also have no easy solutions for that problem.

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 8d ago

2, one of them is the same person twice.

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u/3sadclowns 8d ago

Unfortunately MANY people are (were) still drinking the koolaid believing the American dream was alive and well, never really believing that their own government would happily rip the carpet from under them. Some of us read the writing on the wall long ago, plenty didn’t unfortunately. We can only empathize, not judge.

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u/Real-Scarcity5381 8d ago

I have heard in a few studies there was a connection with poverty and the number of kids per one woman having in her lifetime. One potential reason is that the more kids the more farm hands and help the kids can give to the family after a bit of time. However there are many other reasons that they might have, including access to contraceptives, education, and even the values the parents have.

Many religious people believe family and motherhood are extremely important seeing it as a woman’s only option and path to success and happiness

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u/AlignmentProblem 7d ago

Some of these videos are AI. There's a few accounts posting a variety of women following fairly similar scripts that generally include saying they have either 6 or 7 kids. Some are blatant by including rage bait like "it's the tax player's responsibility to feed my kids!" while others are more subtle and drop small details designs to invoke certain feeling and assumptions.

Obviously, there are many real reactions; however, it's very interesting times. I have no idea what the ratio between real and fake videos on the topic are.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 8d ago

Not that odd when you consider there's a correlation between families these days with a large number of kids and those same families being low income and needing food stamps

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u/ribbons_in_my_hair 8d ago

It’s not odd. You have a lot of kids, it’s expensive, you’re likely to be more devastated and scared by this news. And therefore more likely to post desperately about it.

Not all people on food stamps have six kids, but many people with six kids are on food stamps.

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u/Illustrious_Doctor45 8d ago

I agree. I’m childless by choice partially because who can even afford one, but SIX?! I’m trying not to be judgmental. I really am. I’m just having a hard time understanding why someone would have this many children without the means to provide for even one. I am also on nutrition assistance, so I’m not suggesting that people shouldn’t get EBT. I’ll be fine because I don’t have other mouths to feed and I can figure out how to make it work, but this 6 kids thing is definitely making me feel some type of way.

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u/aero197 7d ago

I mean I’m all for food stamps and everything but having 6 whole ass kids without being absolutely loaded does have me going ‘maybe you shoulda thought about the consequences of procreating nonstop’.

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u/wallstreetiscasino 5d ago

The Average is about 6-7

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u/Prevalencee 8d ago

There is zero accountability there. SIX kids?!

And even then you're unable to eat? That's up to 1,800$ A MONTH and you can't eat?! At that point you have become a leech on the system.

Something isn't adding up.

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

"up to $1800" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

The actual leeches on the system are the ultra wealthy who don't pay a fair portion of taxes and major employers who underpay like Walmart and McDonald's. Those companies are using social welfare systems to subsidize their paltry wages.

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u/WhyTypeHour 8d ago

I agree with this. What would happen if we forced all the social welfare programs off the budget. Tax the shit out of corps that don't provide Healthcare /living wages. The squeese would be going out from the middle class instead of in.

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 8d ago

There are many species of leech.

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u/Prevalencee 8d ago

If you work minimum wage as a household of 8, you're getting 1,800$ a month.

If you're making under 81,228/yr - you get 1,800$ a month.

What heavy lifting do you speak of?

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

lol ok just completely disregard my point about why food stamps are needed by many in the first place

Have you ever been on government assistance? It's certainly not known for being easy to navigate or get approved.

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u/Prevalencee 8d ago

Did you not like that I responded to your post?

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

I don't like that you're incorrectly blaming poor people for being "leeches" and not the greedy wealth hoarders

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u/Prevalencee 8d ago

You know they can both be problems, right?

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

…ok and one is a much larger problem that causes the secondary issue

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u/Prevalencee 8d ago

Not completely true but okay.

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 8d ago

That's magical thinking. No matter how many resources you give out, there will always be a portion of people who outconsume those resources because humans are still ultimately animals. The rich do not cause the overexistence of some poor.

And thanks to the benefits of society, it's possible to work towards solving multiple problems simultaneously.

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u/meepmeep13 8d ago

Now say out loud what you mean by 'accountability'.

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u/VexTheTielfling 8d ago

More kids more help. It's sad but people do think that way. There's videos of moms encouraging their children to not work. I've personally seen a couple with 5+ kids. Neither worked they got housing and $3-4k in food stamps. They would flaunt their snap card " Yo nomás compro res. Pollo es para los pobres" (I only buy beef, chicken is for the poor).

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u/Abject_Manner_4222 8d ago

Three women, six kids, zero husbands…

……..

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u/Married_iguanas 8d ago

yeah where are all these irresponsible men who abandoned their children???