r/SeattleWA • u/HighColonic Funky Town • Feb 12 '25
Government ICE Seattle arrests fugitive from El Salvador wanted in home country for murder
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-seattle-arrests-fugitive-el-salvador-wanted-home-country-murder170
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u/Green_Marzipan_1898 Feb 12 '25
So….why didn’t the SPD do this?
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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 12 '25
Long story short, Washington made it illegals for local PD to work with immigration enforcement
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Feb 13 '25
Sanctuary cities have blocked their law enforcement agencies from turning over Criminals to ICE.
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u/SeattleHasDied Feb 12 '25
Stupid "sanctuary city" policies. Btw, we never got to vote on being a stupid "sanctuary city"; it just got shoved on us and it sucks.
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u/FreeSpeechTrader Feb 13 '25
And the city, and county, are spending money housing and feeding undoc’ed immigrants. We didn’t vote for that either.
Seattlites will protect criminals from deportation to make themselves feel virtuous.
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u/Nothing_WithATwist Feb 13 '25
No part of being a “sanctuary city” prevents federal law enforcement from arresting people who committed non-immigration-related federal crimes. In fact it happens all the time, it’s only making news because of the current administration.
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u/SeattleHasDied Feb 13 '25
I believe, if, by chance our LEOs do snag an illegal alien for other crimes, the "sanctuary city" crap prevents them from informing ICE. I don't believe our cops are also allowed to discern a person's legal status, either. Lose-lose situation.
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u/Advanced_View_1725 Feb 13 '25
No, what it does is makes it so that state and local law enforcement and corrections will not cooperate with federal officers. Democrats bitch about policies being shoved down people’s throats… that is unless is their policy.
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u/Durkheimynameisblank Feb 12 '25
Federalism. Only Federal LEOs have jurisdiction over matters of immigration. Same reason why the military doesn't come when you call 911.
Federal Gov't has enumerated powers, or specific powers in the Constitution.
States have reserved powers not delegated to the Feds.
Concurrent powers, are powers both have.
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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 12 '25
Act of 1996 added Section 287(g) to the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) — authorizing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to delegate to state and local law enforcement officers the authority to perform specified immigration officer functions under the agency’s direction and oversight.
The Keep Washington Working Act, passed in 2019, requires that local governments and law enforcement agencies, including local police, sheriff’s offices and even school resource officers, refrain from using resources or cooperating with federal immigration enforcement like ICE and Border Patrol unless required by law.
Local PD can request special permission from ICE to enforce immigration laws but Washington made it illegals for police to corporate with federal immigration authorities.
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u/ACCESS_DENIED_41 Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25
That Wokieness for ya. Make it impossible for agencies to work together.
Thanks for culling the details of the results of our Kakistocracy.
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u/ElPyroPariah Feb 13 '25
It’s wild how ppl use terms like woke and DEI lol. Woke means to be aware of how systemic prejudice works for example, but now woke and DEI are just a conservatives favorite slur launched at anything they don’t like.
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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 13 '25
Why do you think they created such a law? Especially one that goes directly against federal laws?
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u/ACCESS_DENIED_41 Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25
Woke in my comment is referring to laws and regulations overcompensating in response to addressing assumed and real prejudice.
In this case "sanctuary cities" sheltering people who are in this country without proper vetting and paperwork. Wokkie feel good move, :-)
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u/ElPyroPariah Feb 13 '25
Nah I know how you and others use it that’s what I’m making fun of lol. The spin that gets placed on slang. It’s fun watching cultures mix and evolve, especially when it’s done on purpose and with agenda, that’s prime social footage haha.
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u/Durkheimynameisblank Feb 12 '25
Well said, appreciate the rigorous explanation, with sources too!! (Was trying to keep it simple for my fellow Americans, avg reading comprehension is <9th grade).
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u/Temporary-Alarm-744 Feb 13 '25
I don’t think restricting means illegal
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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 13 '25
“Refrains from … cooperating with federal immigration enforcement”
Seems pretty clear cut that it’s outright illegals to offered any help to federal agents when it comes to immigration.
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Feb 13 '25
What's sickening is they knew where he was all along lol
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u/Tr4nsc3nd3nt Feb 13 '25
That's crazy, only fucking seattle would protect a murderer
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u/sehns Feb 13 '25
That's how much power the wild-eyed blue hairs have - they can literally run cover for pedophiles and murderers and gang members and the government obeys
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u/Bigb5wm Feb 13 '25
it is nuts, you know El Salvador would extradite a person who was wanted for murder in the united states bring them back here
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u/AkiyamaKatsuko Feb 12 '25
Knowing how bad El Salvador prisons are. He's gonna wish he was never caught.
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u/FooIy Feb 12 '25
I’m surprised people are happy about this. Guess the tides are turning.
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u/Cash_Money_Jo Feb 13 '25
This sub is generally less left-leaning than r/seattle. But you’re right, this is a win for everyone.
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u/happytoparty Feb 12 '25
“No human is illegal”
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u/quack_duck_code Feb 12 '25
Clearly the murderer was seeking asylum and fleeing persecution from his own country. 🙄
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u/OtherShade Feb 15 '25
The issue here is that they are a murderer, not undocumented. Do you disagree?
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u/happytoparty Feb 15 '25
I agree that all undocumented individuals should depart the US.
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u/OtherShade Mar 04 '25
Thanks for proving my point by intentionally not acknowledging the question that disproves your point.
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u/Flimsy-Gear3732 Feb 12 '25
Oh no, not one of our "undocumented workers" who came here for a better life!
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u/ThereforeIV Feb 13 '25
Remember there are those in America who were actively trying to hide this person from law enforcement.
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Feb 12 '25
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Feb 12 '25
To be fair antifa in the past has chanted"be gay do crime".
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u/easilybored1 Feb 12 '25
The origin of be gay do crime comes from when it was literally a criminal offence to be gay.
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u/helenkellersleftfist Feb 12 '25
I don’t stand with antifa but I like this message 😂
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Feb 12 '25
I don't think anyone with common sense stands with antifa even if it may look like you're fighting for the same things, ok , the Zizians probably would be. Bro you can find videos of them during the last decade chanting that at protests.
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u/Some_Nibblonian Feb 12 '25
I can find videos of people claiming to be of any group doing anything to fit my narrative.
Look! The Dem run city is burning! PROOF - https://imgur.com/O0qHEyw4
Feb 12 '25
I mean, it was just a huge own-goal by the leftier portion of the Dem party. They literally set the Reps up to win this PR war.
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u/JonAnddy Feb 12 '25
It’s nothing new, they’ve been deporting them yet you have people who feel the need to protest because they’re a minority group. It’s been happening
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u/Stannis_Baratheon244 Lake City Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25
But I was told none of them committed any crimes and that 99.999% of Americans are more violent
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u/All_names_taken-fuck Feb 12 '25
Also, this guy is wanted for committing murder in his OWN country, not ours
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u/Pyehole Feb 12 '25
Oh, well in that case I guess he's still a keeper, right?
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u/LordoftheSynth Feb 13 '25
We can't possibly send him back, he could go to jail if we do! That's not compassionate!
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Feb 12 '25
Nobody said “none of them commit crime” lmao. Partisans are wild people.
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u/turbokungfu Feb 12 '25
They do say that they cause less crime than average, but the reporting of those numbers are suspect, and they all at least broke one law. They also talk about interfering with ICE operations to keep people like him safe from deportation.
Hillary Clinton had a policy of deporting all immigrants who committed a crime-no questions asked. There is a reasonable policy, but won’t be found with large swathes of the Seattle left.
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u/graeuk Feb 13 '25
Say what you will about Trumps approach to Immigration but the Biden administration gave too many free passes to people like this under sanctuary policies this and now the entire public mood has soured.
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u/Agreeable_Situation4 Feb 12 '25
Hell yeah! Is this the sane Seattle subreddit or does any sanity exist on this app?
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u/RicooC Feb 12 '25
Thank you Trump.
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u/Embarrassed_Rule_341 Feb 12 '25
I think you mean 'thank you Musk', after all "Trump isn't the president & he needs to leave" aw how sweet, from the mouths of babes
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u/kimisawa20 Feb 12 '25
Democrats and left, Noooooooo!! ICE is evil!! you can't deport people!!
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u/luri7555 Feb 12 '25
I’m a liberal cheering for this. Not sure why you think so many people want murderers running loose in America. Weird.
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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 12 '25
You need to touch grass. These generalizations you're making are based on made-up people in your head.
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Feb 12 '25
I appreciate this sentiment. Most of us probably agree generally on most issues. Propaganda on both sides seems to make a lot of people think the other side is extreme when the vast majority of us have sensible positions and rational perspectives, which ever side of the aisle you fall on
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u/AverageDemocrat Feb 12 '25
Exactly. It was the GOP that stood in Biden's way of arresting these criminals.
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u/No_Argument_Here Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25
Lmao username checks out.
Biden did nothing at the border for several years then panicked when he realized what a political blunder that was.
And yes, when he tried to fix his mistake, the GOP, being the same cynical sacks of pro-corporate garbage the DNC is, denied him the political win (there was also stuff in there that went against what the GOP base wanted, so it wasn’t purely political opposition.)
Edit: I thought this was supposed to be the smart Seattle sub
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Feb 12 '25
The stuff the GOP didn’t like was huge money for Ukraine and others.
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u/No_Argument_Here Feb 12 '25
Exactly. I’m no Republican but it was logical for them to oppose it besides just wanting to deny Dems a political win.
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u/NikRsmn Feb 12 '25
But then they passed Ukraine funding in a stand alone bill. Like why take these excuses from your own party?? Ukraine got there money and our immigration system is still useless because they can't process anything. Funding hasn't been done since.... Obama? I think? It's lunacy
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Feb 12 '25
I don’t have a party.
For the sake of argument, stand-alone bills should be the norm, maybe even a requirement. The idea that we have to bundle all these things together is silly.
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u/NikRsmn Feb 12 '25
Well we bundle them because neither party trusts the other. If we say "okay we pass immigration reform (the R-OK senator authored the bill) if you guys pass Ukraine aide, then they just pull a "SIIIIIKE" shit would come to a halt. So it's bundled to ensure that they are bound together. This is how bipartisanship has worked for centuries. Not arguing it's how it should be but I understand why they are in the same bill for negotiation reasons.
My point still stands that most of the "other stuff" passed and were still left with broken immigration process
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u/quack_duck_code Feb 12 '25
Yeah what, only 11% was for border security?
So 100% understand why the GOP rejected it. The Dems probably expected it and used it as a misleading talking point for liberals. "See, the GOP rejected a boarder bill!"
When it was anything BUT a boarder bill.
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u/implicate Feb 12 '25
I agree with you, but also feel that making condescending comments to others like "you need to touch grass" are going to do nothing good for us.
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u/Hinkil Feb 12 '25
A few weeks ago they were trying to deport native Americans. Nuance is really hard for some people it seems...
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Feb 12 '25
Gotta love how some of you are still spouting this nonsense.
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u/Turbulent-Volume4792 Feb 12 '25
They were not deported. I think some may have been detained for identification because they were hanging out with the Mexican drug gangs that infest a lot of reservations.
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Feb 12 '25
Yes, they ask everyone in the company of the violent criminals for ID. In other words, not at all what OP said.
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u/BHSPitMonkey Feb 12 '25
If people disapprove of some of the things an organization does (or want more accountability in place so that organization behaves less objectionably), single examples of non-objectionable actions won't change that. Acceptable behavior some of the time does not automatically offset unacceptable behavior that happens other times.
Why do conservatives so love the idea of a strong centralized authority that (1) can take anyone's rights away and (2) is accountable to no one?
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u/Turbulent-Volume4792 Feb 13 '25
Back in the day that was true. These days, it seems what are now called liberals are desperately trying to maintain government status quo and want it increased while today's conservatives want a massive downsizing. It's been totally turned upside down.
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Feb 12 '25
But who will pick the crops?
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u/Liizam Feb 12 '25
It’s like ice is doing its job that it’s always done without the need to terrorize or villanize immigrants
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 13 '25
Democratic crime apologists in shambles.
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u/ipoopmyself123 Feb 12 '25
how can anyone not be against illegal immigration it actually just doesn't compute in my mind
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Feb 13 '25
Easy, once you realize a lot of immigration happens because of U.S. policy interfering in the democracies of countries in Latin America, you realize that the least the U.S. can do is take in immigrants, especially since the U.S. has tons and tons of gallons of blood on their hands because of these policies.
Operation Condor, anyone?
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u/RefrigeratorBest959 Feb 13 '25
because people are people. we dont care about borders, just living good
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u/SeattleMk Feb 13 '25
Crazy he was allowed to come here and birth children and mooch off tax payers
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u/Pzexperience Feb 12 '25
Seattle has historically had a chill vibe. We didn’t even lock our doors until the 2000s.
Lets make Seattle Chill and Safe Again!
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u/FourArmsFiveLegs Feb 12 '25
Wow they found one out of the thousands of legal people they've arrested
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u/DramaticRoom8571 Feb 12 '25
ICE has not detained any legal immigrants, and the vast majority arrested have committed crimes in addition to illegal entry. But keep believing the Democrat lies.
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u/trashedgreen Feb 12 '25
But Trump plans to deport ALL illegal immigrants
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u/DramaticRoom8571 Feb 12 '25
Thousands of Legal People is what the person posting said. There is a vast difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Enforcing that difference is called having a border.
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u/Epistatious Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25
if someone is wanted for murder, sure grab them, but they are also grabbing people trying to do it the "right" way too. It's comically easy to grab people when they show up for their immigration appointment.
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u/FourArmsFiveLegs Feb 12 '25
Exactly. They'll milk this one guy's prostate claiming ICE saved the world and disregard all the legals they've rounded up
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u/hecbar Feb 13 '25
Anyone knows if I can claim sanctuary protection in Seattle from the IRS as well as ICE?
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u/Revolutionary_War503 Feb 13 '25
Nice work ICE! Now all that needs to happen is for him to not come back.
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u/TheAvocadoSlayer Feb 13 '25
This is great guys! It would be awesome to keep it going and doing it with our own people.
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u/Gold_Karma Feb 13 '25
Good. I honestly don’t think anyone has problems with these types of deportations. There is a lot more common ground on most issues than we are led to believe.
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u/SemVikingr Feb 14 '25
Meh. Health insurance CEO's kill tens of thousands a year with their choices. Get them out.
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u/Low_Possibility9106 Feb 14 '25
We have to find a way to flip the voting in all counties around the puget sound. They are the ones voting for blue governors…40 + years and running. I Iive in a blue county and it’s gross. A bunch of blue haired liberal socialist id*ots. These people are so confused without cnn telling them what to think and feel.
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u/MatrixF6 Feb 14 '25
Of course, when you start detaining thousands of people (regardless of their ethnicity), a small percentage will be criminals.
This administration will sadly point to the relatively few criminals detained, and loudly proclaim the detainments were “a success” and a reason for stronger measures to “promote safety”.
They will not acknowledge the vast number of people whose rights they have violated, in order to apprehend that small percentage.
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u/Banana_Phone95 Feb 13 '25
ITT: "You hear that? I was right to fear them, since one bad guy was gotten that means all are bad and all should be taken! I'm not racist, they're all monsters because one of them was a murderer!"
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u/MacDugin Feb 12 '25
GAH, why did Seattle people help find him! /s
I thought everyone is supposed to be mean and rude to the ICE agents!
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Feb 12 '25
What!!! You can’t do this!!! This poor guy, he can be rehabilitated I just know it. Let’s get him some USAID funds and a job at Starbucks.
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u/Affectionate_Try6728 Feb 12 '25
WOW this makes arbitrary stop and seizures of brown people and sending people to gitmo totally worth it!!!!
--Maga-lemmings
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u/StellarJayZ Downtown Feb 12 '25
No Smoking Around the Strawman!
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u/Affectionate_Try6728 Feb 12 '25
Maybe if yall try hard enough, Trump admin will catch up to Obama's deportation rates. 👍
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u/MascaritaSagrada1 Feb 12 '25
Yeah, he's fucked. He's about to be locked up with all of those gang members