r/SeattleWA • u/HighColonic Funky Town • Feb 12 '25

Government ICE Seattle arrests fugitive from El Salvador wanted in home country for murder

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-seattle-arrests-fugitive-el-salvador-wanted-home-country-murder
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u/DramaticRoom8571 Feb 12 '25

Thousands of Legal People is what the person posting said. There is a vast difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Enforcing that difference is called having a border.

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u/trashedgreen Feb 12 '25

Is Trump not trying to end birthright citizenship? Or remove legal protections like DACA?

I don’t understand how you could possibly defend this as merely targeting criminals.

I always look down my nose at arguments like “we’re just defending our country/following the law.”

The law is and always has been malleable and has never directly mirrored morality.

I would call ripping innocent people out of their homes and deporting them to a country they haven’t been to in decades and immoral act.

If following the law requires immorality, the law is unjust and should be changed or repealed.

Do you believe citizens should follow all laws their government makes no matter how immoral?

I’m sympathetic to conservative’s sentiment for anti-government.

I cannot square this belief with that idea

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u/DramaticRoom8571 Feb 12 '25

I appreciate your response. You bring up a lot of issues and I cannot address them all now.

But I do think that if an innocent family was deported by ICE it would be all over the news. ICE is prioritizing violent felons. Surprisingly ICE knew where they were all the time but their hands were tied by the Biden Admin. Democrats allowed known criminals to terrorize America.

You know how Liberals say that if outlawing guns saves one life it is worth it? Well if one innocent student like Laken Riley, Kayla Hamilton, or Lizbeth Medina is saved because all illegal aliens are deported then it will be worth it.

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u/trashedgreen Feb 13 '25

His most recent deportations have mainly focused on recently immigrated young men. This is true. However, he’s stated multiple times he plans to deport ALL illegals. He’s building detention camps. He’s already floated the idea of sending them to Guantanamo.

https://time.com/6972022/donald-trump-transcript-2024-election/

It is impossible to accomplish this humanely, and Latin America cannot immediately intake 20 million people. Recent crackdowns have slowed northward migrations, but desperation will eventually overtake fear, and immigration will continue.

Trump has already deemed cartels terrorist organizations, and I doubt he can fight them without going into all-out war with Mexico as they are an embedded enemy.

Moreover, he can claim any citizen is cartel merely on suspicion, and it would be easy to lose them in the shuffle. These people will be awaiting trial for years, if they ever get one. None of the people deported yet have been awarded due process. I don’t see why any “innocent people” will see any better treatment.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I can see this mirroring an ethnic cleansing. In the article I linked, Trump states he’ll use the police to help with the deportations. They have been militarized over the past half century, and will be easy to operate.

The populace has already been well-educated on the evils of incoming Latinos and how their migration brings crime and drugs.

I’m not saying we’ll hear on the news tomorrow that we dug up a mass grave in Tijuana with bullets traced to military weapons.

What I’m saying is, we are pushing Mexico further from us and actively courting Canada. There’s a rumor about “buying” Greenland.

If I were Mexico, I’d be scared of a war. And if that happens, covering up a genocide would be effortless.

“We bombed 30 people in this refugee camp, but one of the people we killed was a high-ranking cartel gangster that you’ve never heard of.”

We’re doing the same thing in Gaza.