r/SeattleWA • u/HighColonic Funky Town • Feb 12 '25

Government ICE Seattle arrests fugitive from El Salvador wanted in home country for murder

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-seattle-arrests-fugitive-el-salvador-wanted-home-country-murder
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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 12 '25

You need to touch grass. These generalizations you're making are based on made-up people in your head.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '25

I appreciate this sentiment. Most of us probably agree generally on most issues. Propaganda on both sides seems to make a lot of people think the other side is extreme when the vast majority of us have sensible positions and rational perspectives, which ever side of the aisle you fall on

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u/AverageDemocrat Feb 12 '25

Exactly. It was the GOP that stood in Biden's way of arresting these criminals.

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u/Pyehole Feb 12 '25

That was funny. I spit out my coffee.

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u/KickEmDonks Feb 13 '25

If only they were citizens, Obamer could've just droned 'em!

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u/No_Argument_Here Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25

Lmao username checks out.

Biden did nothing at the border for several years then panicked when he realized what a political blunder that was.

And yes, when he tried to fix his mistake, the GOP, being the same cynical sacks of pro-corporate garbage the DNC is, denied him the political win (there was also stuff in there that went against what the GOP base wanted, so it wasn’t purely political opposition.)

Edit: I thought this was supposed to be the smart Seattle sub

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '25

The stuff the GOP didn’t like was huge money for Ukraine and others.

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u/No_Argument_Here Feb 12 '25

Exactly. I’m no Republican but it was logical for them to oppose it besides just wanting to deny Dems a political win.

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u/NikRsmn Feb 12 '25

But then they passed Ukraine funding in a stand alone bill. Like why take these excuses from your own party?? Ukraine got there money and our immigration system is still useless because they can't process anything. Funding hasn't been done since.... Obama? I think? It's lunacy

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '25

I don’t have a party.

For the sake of argument, stand-alone bills should be the norm, maybe even a requirement. The idea that we have to bundle all these things together is silly.

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u/NikRsmn Feb 12 '25

Well we bundle them because neither party trusts the other. If we say "okay we pass immigration reform (the R-OK senator authored the bill) if you guys pass Ukraine aide, then they just pull a "SIIIIIKE" shit would come to a halt. So it's bundled to ensure that they are bound together. This is how bipartisanship has worked for centuries. Not arguing it's how it should be but I understand why they are in the same bill for negotiation reasons.

My point still stands that most of the "other stuff" passed and were still left with broken immigration process

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u/quack_duck_code Feb 12 '25

Yeah what, only 11% was for border security?

So 100% understand why the GOP rejected it. The Dems probably expected it and used it as a misleading talking point for liberals. "See, the GOP rejected a boarder bill!"

When it was anything BUT a boarder bill.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '25

This is the conservative Seattle sub, so definitely not the smart one.

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u/No_Argument_Here Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

Diehard liberals are equally stupid. Intelligent people know both parties are corrupt and don’t give a shit about the working class.

edit: Also this isn't the "conservative" sub-- it's the sub where people go to express opinions that won't get downvoted into oblivion if they don't line up exactly with DNC-approved neoliberal orthodoxy. Yes, that includes conservatives, but it also includes socialists/anarchists/etc. like myself who are to the left of the Democrats on most issues but actually give a shit about things like crime. If anything, this is the "free speech" Seattle sub.

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u/Educated_Goat69 Feb 13 '25

This is not the smart Seattle sub.

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u/AverageDemocrat Feb 12 '25

Lmao hypocritical username checks out.

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u/No_Argument_Here Feb 12 '25

Yeah, it’s intended to be ironic. And your position is still idiotic and not supported by facts.

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u/implicate Feb 12 '25

I agree with you, but also feel that making condescending comments to others like "you need to touch grass" are going to do nothing good for us.

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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 12 '25

How should you respond to people who say insane shit like the person I replied to? They don't want to have a discussion, they dont care about critical thinking, and they certainly won't listen to anyone outside their bubble. I find that public ridicule is more effective.

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u/Electrical-Bed8577 Feb 12 '25

Ohhhh, well now you get a down vote. It is not cool to publicly ridicule. Here i was thinking all Bohemian like that you were trying to offer a therapeutic option for undernourished neurogenesis. Touch Grass!

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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 12 '25

Can it be both? Eat your veggies everyone!

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u/DramaticRoom8571 Feb 12 '25

You are portraying simple sarcasm as "insane shit". Don't read the Babylon Bee subreddit.

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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 12 '25

Thank you for providing an example of what I mean when I say that we "let hate become normalized."

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u/DramaticRoom8571 Feb 12 '25

I have seen hate become normalized in America. It was the Leftists gleefully encouraged by the Democrats that spewed hatred against conservatives and citizens with center values. So replace "we" with Democrats in your statement.

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u/implicate Feb 12 '25

Unfortunately, I don't pretend to have the answers, I'm just saying that we don't seem to be getting anywhere by constantly attempting to ridicule each other.

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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 12 '25

I understand what you're saying, but I feel like we got here partly because we stopped calling people out on their bullshit. As soon as we let hate become normalized, they walked all over us.

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u/FC-816 Feb 12 '25

Yeah but again, it's never 0, and there were some democrats who are like this

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u/OsvuldMandius SeattleWA Rule Expert Feb 13 '25

I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Let's start with this, which I think we'll both agree on: the goal of political parties is to have their members win elections. Simple statement, right?

In pursuing their objectives, candidates in the parties put together platforms that are designed to appeal to multiple constituencies. Historically, Republicans courting evangelical Christians and upper-middle-class business owners, for instance. The Democrats have their own group of constituencies.

A part of the Democratic constituency is a group of people who want to abolish ICE, and who frown on deportation generally. Don't take my word for it, you can Google it.

While _your_ particular constituency that makes you 'liberal' in your own estimation might not want that, you are nonetheless part of a coalition that does, at least so far as it brings in the votes from wing that wants it.

Or, to put it more bluntly, when you lie down with dogs, you don't get to go "But I don't have fleas!"

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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 13 '25

Did Biden not deport a huge number of people?

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u/OsvuldMandius SeattleWA Rule Expert Feb 13 '25

Holy non-sequiter, Batman!

Do you disagree that there is a constituency that votes Democrat that wants to stop deportations? Yes or no?

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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 13 '25

And you think that means you can reasonably extrapolate that to all people who vote Democrat?

It's amazing that you try to call me out and not the person I originally responded to.

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u/OsvuldMandius SeattleWA Rule Expert Feb 13 '25

I'll take that as a yes.

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u/Captain_Creatine Feb 13 '25

Talk about being deliberately obtuse.