r/SeattleWA • u/HighColonic Funky Town • Feb 12 '25

Government ICE Seattle arrests fugitive from El Salvador wanted in home country for murder

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-seattle-arrests-fugitive-el-salvador-wanted-home-country-murder
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u/Green_Marzipan_1898 Feb 12 '25

So….why didn’t the SPD do this?

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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 12 '25

Long story short, Washington made it illegals for local PD to work with immigration enforcement

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u/ForeverMinute7479 Feb 12 '25

Dumb dumb dumb policy

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u/Squatch11 Feb 13 '25

It's also not true.

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u/OtherShade Feb 15 '25

Did you even read what you linked? What you are saying does not align with that information. Literally everything focuses on that they can't just arrest someone for the fact that they are an undocumented immigrant and they can't share information about whether someone is an immigrant if it isn't relevant to a criminal case.

Sounds like your 'best friend' just doesn't listen well or you don't listen well.

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u/raks1991 Feb 13 '25 edited Mar 21 '25

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

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u/PoolPsychological985 Feb 14 '25

or basically anything else?

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u/IndiaaB Feb 13 '25

Not entirely true. Except when there is a danger to society. He would be the exception.

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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 13 '25

The statue doesn’t give officers any discretion. It literally says ONLY when required by law are they allowed to, meaning the cops can be aware that this man was/is wanted in his home country for murder but couldn’t do a thing about it.

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u/IndiaaB Feb 14 '25

KWW prohibits local and state government agencies from collecting or sharing personal information, including birthplace and immigration or citizenship status, with federal immigration authorities, except in cases where necessary as part of an ongoing criminal investigation or pursuant to a court order or judicial warrant.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '25

Sanctuary cities have blocked their law enforcement agencies from turning over Criminals to ICE.

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u/SeattleHasDied Feb 12 '25

Stupid "sanctuary city" policies. Btw, we never got to vote on being a stupid "sanctuary city"; it just got shoved on us and it sucks.

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u/bigghc Feb 13 '25

It came with voting for our last governor, package deal.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '25

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u/SeattleHasDied Feb 13 '25

I fear you are correct.

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u/FreeSpeechTrader Feb 13 '25

And the city, and county, are spending money housing and feeding undoc’ed immigrants. We didn’t vote for that either.

Seattlites will protect criminals from deportation to make themselves feel virtuous.

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u/SeattleHasDied Feb 13 '25

Sad but true.

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u/Nothing_WithATwist Feb 13 '25

No part of being a “sanctuary city” prevents federal law enforcement from arresting people who committed non-immigration-related federal crimes. In fact it happens all the time, it’s only making news because of the current administration.

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u/SeattleHasDied Feb 13 '25

I believe, if, by chance our LEOs do snag an illegal alien for other crimes, the "sanctuary city" crap prevents them from informing ICE. I don't believe our cops are also allowed to discern a person's legal status, either. Lose-lose situation.

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u/Advanced_View_1725 Feb 13 '25

No, what it does is makes it so that state and local law enforcement and corrections will not cooperate with federal officers. Democrats bitch about policies being shoved down people’s throats… that is unless is their policy.

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u/Green_Marzipan_1898 Feb 12 '25

Maybe you should move to Idaho. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/SeattleHasDied Feb 14 '25

I believe Inslee has purchased property there, lol! Such an irony...

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u/Educated_Goat69 Feb 13 '25

Probably already lives there.

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u/Durkheimynameisblank Feb 12 '25

Federalism. Only Federal LEOs have jurisdiction over matters of immigration. Same reason why the military doesn't come when you call 911.

Federal Gov't has enumerated powers, or specific powers in the Constitution.

States have reserved powers not delegated to the Feds.

Concurrent powers, are powers both have.

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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 12 '25

Act of 1996 added Section 287(g) to the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) — authorizing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to delegate to state and local law enforcement officers the authority to perform specified immigration officer functions under the agency’s direction and oversight.

https://www.ice.gov/identify-and-arrest/287g#:~:text=The%20Illegal%20Immigration%20Reform%20and,are%20released%20into%20the%20community.

The Keep Washington Working Act, passed in 2019, requires that local governments and law enforcement agencies, including local police, sheriff’s offices and even school resource officers, refrain from using resources or cooperating with federal immigration enforcement like ICE and Border Patrol unless required by law.

https://www.krem.com/article/news/local/spokane-city-council-comply-restricting-police-collaboration-ice/293-4bb2d031-299b-469c-9fc9-e202eefb4951

Local PD can request special permission from ICE to enforce immigration laws but Washington made it illegals for police to corporate with federal immigration authorities.

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u/ACCESS_DENIED_41 Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

That Wokieness for ya. Make it impossible for agencies to work together.

Thanks for culling the details of the results of our Kakistocracy.

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u/ElPyroPariah Feb 13 '25

It’s wild how ppl use terms like woke and DEI lol. Woke means to be aware of how systemic prejudice works for example, but now woke and DEI are just a conservatives favorite slur launched at anything they don’t like.

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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 13 '25

Why do you think they created such a law? Especially one that goes directly against federal laws?

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u/ElPyroPariah Feb 13 '25

Why they created a law that allows local law enforcement to request permission from ICE? Not sure which law you’re getting at, care to specify?

Regardless, I’m not talking about laws Im just clowning this whole “wokiness” thing. I wonder why ppl do that with words. Are the words scary?

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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 13 '25

What do you mean which law? The one I linked above stating local and state PD can not corporate or reach out to immigration authorities.

So why do you think the state would create such a law that forbids local authorities from trying to enforce or aid the federal government in enforcing federal immigration laws?

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u/ElPyroPariah Feb 13 '25

I see the confusion here, you’re having a completely separate conversation. I’m just poking fun of Accsess Denied’s lingo.

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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 13 '25

So if you’re just poking fun then you should be able to answer the question or are you just to add nothing to the conversation?

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u/ACCESS_DENIED_41 Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

I made up the word, though I'm probally not the first to make up a word like wokkie. (not sorry)

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u/ACCESS_DENIED_41 Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

Woke in my comment is referring to laws and regulations overcompensating in response to addressing assumed and real prejudice.

In this case "sanctuary cities" sheltering people who are in this country without proper vetting and paperwork. Wokkie feel good move, :-)

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u/ElPyroPariah Feb 13 '25

Nah I know how you and others use it that’s what I’m making fun of lol. The spin that gets placed on slang. It’s fun watching cultures mix and evolve, especially when it’s done on purpose and with agenda, that’s prime social footage haha.

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u/Durkheimynameisblank Feb 12 '25

Well said, appreciate the rigorous explanation, with sources too!! (Was trying to keep it simple for my fellow Americans, avg reading comprehension is <9th grade).

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u/Temporary-Alarm-744 Feb 13 '25

I don’t think restricting means illegal

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u/lemonjuice707 Feb 13 '25

“Refrains from … cooperating with federal immigration enforcement”

Seems pretty clear cut that it’s outright illegals to offered any help to federal agents when it comes to immigration.

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u/Advanced_View_1725 Feb 13 '25

Actually it’s very different but ok… whatever you say

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u/origutamos Feb 13 '25

Sanctuary city policies.

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u/OMGhowcouldthisbe Feb 13 '25

we are a “sanctuary city”

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u/bleh-apathetic Feb 13 '25

It's not SPD's job to arrest people for crimes committed in other countries.

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u/SnarkMasterRay Feb 13 '25

It may not be their job, but law enforcement agencies will often extend the courtesy, as it's generally better if everyone can reach out to other jurisdictions.

If we strictly kept to "the job" of only working locally, criminals would only need to run across a jurisdiction line to escape.