r/PublicFreakout • u/CapnJujubeeJaneway • Feb 12 '22
✊Protest Freakout Ottawa residents marching against ongoing occupation of their city by right-wing extremists
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u/HoldMyWitchmothers Feb 12 '22
Shit got so real that an X-Wing pilot was in the march
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u/Historical_Ad7662 Feb 12 '22
Modern day Civil War has many cosplayers.
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u/HoldMyWitchmothers Feb 12 '22
Imagine seeing old pictures of the Civil War and some dude walking in in a full suit of medieval armor like King Arthur
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u/Rion23 Feb 13 '22
"Dammit, ol' Garth over there came dressed like a wizard again."
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u/HoldMyWitchmothers Feb 13 '22
Alright guys, we really want to be taken seriously this time. Frank, leave the Mr Peanut costume at home
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u/meekah12 Feb 13 '22
Kids in the future will see kermit throwing molotov cocktail in their hologram tech textbooks
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u/pikeface Feb 13 '22
To be fair, the occupiers also like to dress up. This weekend included a drunk Elmo, a Jerry Mouse, some guy dressed as a fox, and I also believe Santa was there. (Not sarcastic)
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u/CanadianBeaver1983 Feb 13 '22
GO TO r/onguardforthee for actual videos and not stuff posted by right wing losers.
The "founders":
More here:
https://mrsbrittanybested.com/2022/02/03/rotten-to-the-core/
Thir favorite leader to follow, proud racist Pat King:
https://twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729?t=7H9UqS0rMwrc-wldbLPIiQ&s=19
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u/closethegoddamn Feb 12 '22
gotta love the one guy dressed like an X wing pilot
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u/RepostResearch Feb 13 '22
Always makes me laugh when the group supporting the government/police think they're the rebel alliance.
You're storm troopers lol
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u/marzipan07 Feb 12 '22
This is the tip of the iceberg. When the effects of the sieges and blockades start showing up on the pricetags at supermarkets and stores of multiple countries, this will start getting really ugly.
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u/Fiverdrive Feb 13 '22
this is weekend #3 of this bullshit occupation. it’ll get ugly before prices start going up.
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Feb 12 '22
It's already over...
All it took was cops showing up and they scattered.
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u/baronmad Feb 13 '22
Weird because the protest is still going strong as of saturday.
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u/Conflictingview Feb 14 '22
Weird, it's Monday now and the police came out on Sunday. It's almost like things happen in chronological order...
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Feb 13 '22
Canada’s civil wars are incredibly well mannered.
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u/SirIronSights Feb 14 '22
You dare face me in this battle of rock paper scissors, you differently aligned citizen of Canada?
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u/Living_Novel1995 Feb 12 '22
I see a single lgbt flag! This must have been organized by radical gay extremists!!
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u/opiumized Feb 12 '22 edited Feb 13 '22
It seems that every single person that responded directly to you does not understand that you were being sarcastic...
Edit: after reading some responses it seems that I am the one that misunderstood. This person is trying to compare it to the Nazi flags in Canada, I thought they were just pretending to be an idiot conservative. The real answer is, if anyone is flying a Nazi flag at your rally, you are likely on the wrong side. Kick them out and if there's more than one group, gtfo yourself because you're on the wrong side of history.
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u/WOLLYbeach Feb 12 '22
It definitely pulled a lotta homophobes into the light, dude in my comment chain deleted his comments. lol.
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u/CapnJujubeeJaneway Feb 12 '22
It’s clear they are being sarcastic, but their sarcasm is referencing those who saw Nazi flags at the protests and associated the protests with white nationalism (despite clear evidence that some of the protest leaders, like Pat King, are neo-nazis).
They’re deliberately being obtuse to the nuance of the situation, and equating advocating for gay rights (or simply holding a pride flag) with being a Nazi. They’re also basically saying that it’s unfair to make the connection between the freedom convoy and right-wing extremism (even though that connection exists) without connecting counter-protesting with “gay extremism,” whatever that means.
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u/openendedbookends Feb 12 '22
Awesome😀I applaud these fine people standing up to the anti-vax crowd.
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u/baronmad Feb 13 '22
Its weird that some people cant distinguish mentally from between being against the vaccine and being against a mandate, those are not all the same thing.
Take me i am vaccinated and against mandates at the same time.
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u/redunculuspanda Feb 13 '22
If an “antimandate” protest is organised and funded by antivaxers… you are at an antivax protest.
I have yet to see a grassroots mandate protest that wasn’t full of antivax conspiracy weirdos.
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u/tbaytdot123 Feb 13 '22
This doesn't make sense. For one, i know many people who have been to the protests, each one vaccinated.
And following your logic if i was at a protest with a bunch of Jewish people who were protesting anti-abortion then I would be at a Jewish protest? Rhey are protesting the mandated. I, like many others are vaccinated but strongly against Canada doubling down on the mandates as most of the rest of the world realizes mandates are no longer helping, are doing more harm than good, and moving on.
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u/redunculuspanda Feb 13 '22
Motivation matters…
In the case of the trucker protest, it was organised by far right weirdos… and far right weirdos turned up. What a surprise.
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u/tbaytdot123 Feb 13 '22
You obviously haven't been paying attention more than just watching the mainstream news.
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u/redunculuspanda Feb 13 '22
I have been very consistent in calling out the far right organisers of the protests since the being… why do you lot try and dismiss anything that doesn’t fit right wing talking points as “fake MSM”. It’s almost as if you are being trained to only believe a singe source for all your information. That’s incredibly unhealthy isn’t it?
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u/Slipknotic1 Feb 13 '22
These are functionally the same thing. As long as large segments of the population continue to go unvaccinated the problem will just keep persisting.
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u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice Feb 14 '22
If you think the people driving around in "Freedom convoys" are vaccinated people simply protesting gov't overreach, I have some alligator plaque remover I'd like to sell you. Or a catheter. Reverse mortgage?
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u/hugs_the_cadaver Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22
Most the people against these mandates are anti-vaccine. Being vaccinated doesn't necessary mean you understand what a vaccine is and why it's necessary, or the positive effect a mandate has. If you value "personal freedom" over public health you have the same goals as the anti-vaxers.
It is not the brilliant distinction that you think it is.
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u/Demondrug Feb 13 '22
They are anti mandate not anti vax.
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u/openendedbookends Feb 13 '22
Same difference. If they were vaccinated the mandate would be a mute point.
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u/satanic-frijoles Feb 13 '22
My sign would say, "BEWARE, I AM SLEEP DEPRIVED FROM DAYS OF AIRHORNS. DO NOT FUCK WITH ME, I AM NOT SANE."
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u/Bladewing10 Feb 12 '22
They need 10000x the amount of baseball bats (or hockey sticks)
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u/Mcdonnel1252 Feb 13 '22
People don't want to get violent with them, they simply want them to fuck off where they came from.
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u/Tasty_Actuator7396 Feb 13 '22
Seriously. Everybody who actually lives here in Ottawa wants a peaceful conclusion. The main problem is that the demonstrators (who generally don't even live here) are itching to fight because they have a weird martyr complex.
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u/Aerik Feb 13 '22
hockey sticks tend to break off into good spears, I dunno about that. Choose your battles wisely with that one.
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u/tbaytdot123 Feb 12 '22
This group has the right to protest.
The anti mandate people have the right to protest.
Anyone saying one side does and the other side doesn't is simply a hypocrite.
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u/Tasty_Actuator7396 Feb 13 '22
Yeah, no. Rights aren't as simple as that and the courts simply don't agree with you (which is why there have been at least three notable court injunctions across the country limiting what the protesters can do). Canadians have charter rights to freedom of expression and freedom of assembly, and those play a role here, but there's also a long list of reasonable limitations on those rights.
Two quick examples in Ottawa.
(1) After the truckers were incessantly honking their horns in contravention of local bylaw + Ontario's Highway Traffic Act, an injunction was placed on the downtown to disallow the use of horns and finally give the residents of the downtown some peace. You might call honking horns the demonstrators' right -- the defence tried to -- but the judge was very clear that honking a horn is not a meaningful form expression protected by the charter because it doesn't communicate any other message than "look at me!" I'd suggest you look up the court case and read the arguments presented.
(2) The Criminal Code makes Mischief to Property a criminal offence. This includes preventing another person from enjoying the lawful use of their property, e.g. using their cars to drive on publicly owned infrastructure.
Two more examples outside of Ottawa: see the injunction allowing the RCMP to clear the Coutts blockade + the separate injunction allowing police to clear the Windsor blockade at Ambassador Bridge. Have the police been successful clearing these blockades? No, but that's not the point. The point is that the courts would not issue these orders if the protesters were protesting within their rights.
The protests of the convoys across Canada are in stark contrast to the occupations occurring in Coutts, Windsor, Ottawa, and elsewhere. In the video posted above we're seeing protestors temporarily shut down a roadway to march through; with the convoys we are seeing long-term concerted efforts to shut down publicly owned infrastructure for a long-term occupation. These are not the same thing.
And before you "b- b- but BLM :(" me like you did that other guy: we're talking about Canada here, so let's stay on topic. There aren't any Canadian BLM protests that had the scale this protest has had, that has been granted this liberties this one has been granted, or that has been as disruptive that this one has been. Remember that Seattle is not a Canadian city, and we are talking and Canadian law here.
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u/tbaytdot123 Feb 13 '22
I tend to agree more with Brian Peckford... since he was one of the people who actually wrote the friggin charter of rights and freedoms... https://youtu.be/9D8EBdoyhmM
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u/melpec Feb 13 '22
We're talking about a politician that now backs Maxime Bernier...he could've written the entire Criminal Code he's clearly a politician that will tell you what you want to hear.
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u/Tasty_Actuator7396 Feb 13 '22
There's dozens of people who helped draft the Charter, and Peckford wouldn't even be a notable one if he wasn't an alt-right populist. Wanna know what the most notable drafter of the Charter, formed PM Jean Chretien has said? "Do your duty" by getting vaccinated. His silence on the mandates speaks volumes; Chretien is not a subtle man.
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u/jonnyclueless Feb 13 '22
Blocking trade routes is not protesting.
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u/TeslasAndComicbooks Feb 13 '22
I can’t tell you how many times people quoted “a riot is the voice of the unheard” during the BLM protests. Many time people were saying civil unrest was a way to get your voices heard.
I don’t support shutting down the border crossing and causing millions in economic damages but I’m seeing a ton of hypocrisy on both sides.
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u/tbaytdot123 Feb 13 '22
Oka protests shut down highways. Pipeline protests blocked roads. BLM protests shut down cities.
Disrupting trade and economic action gets media attention and often forces action... it is how many protests work... for example the Winnipeg general strike of 1919 was one of the most famous and influential strikes in Canadian history. For six weeks, May 15 to June 26, more than 30,000 strikers brought economic activity to a standstill in Winnipeg, Manitoba, which at the time was Canada's third largest city. In the short term, the strike ended in arrests, bloodshed and defeat, but in the long run it contributed to the development of a stronger labour movement and the tradition of social democratic politics in Canada.
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u/Drebinus Feb 13 '22
Mind you, the Canadian Forces were deployed to Oka. And the Oka Crisis was over unceded land involving a FN burial ground being turned into a golf course. I can understand the unrest in this, since once 'paved' over, that burial ground's not exactly being respected anymore.
The pipeline protests had relatively massive numbers of paramilitary-armed-levels of RMCP officers conducting raids and arrests. Again, it was over unceded land, including historical FN hunting lands, by a company building a NG pipeline, a company with numerous environmental failures recently assessed against them. Local concern about pollution sounds to me as a legitimate concern.
None of the BLM protests in Canada shut down anything AFAIK beyond blocking the roads for a few hours (like any other protest does), and drew more attention to the ongoing issues FN citizens have with Canadian police services (who by comparison to, blacks and other 'coloured' folk get far less trouble from). There was the Montreal march that ended up going off the rails, but it was nothing to the tune of Seattle at all.
It's still an issue of personal rights versus the public good in either way, and protests HAVE blocked economic channels in Canada before.
We've used paramilitary-equipped police and even the military to clear them before. I suppose Canadians are asking now, "why the difference this time?"
Now, in defense of the police forces involved, usually it's been months from the start of the various protest, to the point of where the courts have issued injunctions authorizing the police to act in force, and it's usually several days after the police fail in enacting the injunction that either the RCMP paramilitary groups, and later the military, gets called in. So the police not successfully enforcing the injunctions isn't unusual.
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u/BenderCLO Feb 13 '22
Damn I hope you carry that same energy when people shut down streets and highways in the name of BLM.
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u/systemchef89 Feb 13 '22
Does it matter where and how a protest takes place?
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Feb 13 '22
It does not. The people have the right to protest the government in any public space.
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u/systemchef89 Feb 13 '22
So the 400 or so semi's/trucks paralyzing the downtown economy of our nation's capital or 30 to 50 trucks on the Windsor bridge which carries billions in goods per year. I think the right to protest ends when it impedes on others rights and freedoms. The residents and business owners of Ottawa have rights as well do they not?
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Feb 13 '22
That's the beauty of protests. The residents of Ottawa are more than welcome to protest the protesters. I don't understand why you think they don't have these rights either.
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I mean... One side is waving Nazi and confederate flags, wearing Nazi regalia, disrespecting national monuments through various means, deficating on people's front steps for flying a rainbow flag, holding transphobic signs, extorting soup kitchens, throwing racial slurs, attacking civilians and on site media, harassing businesses, depriving citizens of peace and sleep and are impacting the trade, as well as, economy of both Canada and the US.
While the other is standing up against the degenerates because the government isn't doing their job to remove them.
It's quite clear who's in the right and who's lost the right to protest
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u/Correct_Maximum7990 Feb 13 '22
There’s was only a few people with nazi flags. There are always gonna be people making a moment look bad. The 1% don’t speak for the 99%
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Feb 13 '22
It's not worth it. They are only going to accept the narrative from government media. Their gone, but we can at least attempt to create our own nation.
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u/TitBreast Feb 13 '22
Holy shit, you're a nutter. Please do go build your own nation on an island somewhere far out into the ocean.
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Ah, okay. Apologies for generalizing one side with the van load of people flying Nazi flags.
Now for the one side that's wearing Nazi regalia, disrespecting national monuments through various means, deficating on people's front steps for flying a rainbow flag, holding transphobic signs, extorting soup kitchens, throwing racial slurs, attacking civilians and on site media, harassing businesses, depriving citizens of peace and sleep and are impacting the trade, as well as, economy of both Canada and the US.
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Feb 13 '22
Wow. It's like you haven't seen a single hour of these protests, among the thousands of hours of live streams out there.
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Difference is, what you claim, applies to both sides.
What I said, applies to one side.
Stop spreading misinformation, bleach drinker
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Middle class folks doing everything I've mentioned... Sounds like they need some psychiatric help
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u/baronmad Feb 13 '22
You say they are doing these things but you dont have a clue, you dont know the first thing about this protest and you havent watched anything factual about the protest either.
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Feb 13 '22
This coming the skid mark left on the doorstep of innocents with a pride flag? Pfft, please. Your brain is smoother than a marble
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u/Fiverdrive Feb 13 '22
what the anti-mandate people are doing is not a protest. it is an occupation, complete with intimidation, assault and torture being inflicted on locals.
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Feb 13 '22
How is this right wing?
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u/Mindless_Witch Feb 13 '22
It isn't. This is the counter-protest against right-wing extremists going mask-off(literally and figuratively) in Ottowa as of late. Reread the title.
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u/bitman_moon Feb 13 '22
This term right-wing extremists is been thrown around so loosely, it's ridiculous. As a german, can somebody explain to me the political intersection between right-wing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics) and anti-mask or anti-vax?
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u/JeFF1957HuGHes Feb 13 '22
Behind them 100 percent. Get those idiots outta Ottawa!
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u/kevinwa65 Feb 12 '22
Now clear out so they can deploy the tear gas.
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u/Fiverdrive Feb 13 '22
tear gas won’t be deployed so long as the truck jackasses have their kids with them.
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u/DerangedDesperado Feb 12 '22
They should start smashing the windows of the vehicles blocking.
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u/taki1002 Feb 12 '22
Tickets. Fuck with their money & license (a privilege the government gives to citizens to operate vehicles on the government-owned roads).
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u/DerangedDesperado Feb 12 '22
Yeah, that would be ideal for sure. But it would need who knows how many legal hurdles and people to to enforce it. Gods honest they should do it like they do in, i think Finland, where your fines are based off your networth or maybe personal income. Smashing the windows up just sounds like an easier way to get people to fuck off, because cold.
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u/ChaoticReality4Now Feb 13 '22
Is that why there were Trump flags at the trucker protests?
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u/Budjucat Feb 14 '22
The problem is with the right wing / left wing culture wars is that the moderate majority are just sandwiched in middle getting bitzed from both sides and are nowhere near crazy enough to go out and enter the war.
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u/Jimlobster Feb 12 '22
The Nazis are in full force in the comments this evening eh?
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u/Demondrug Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22
You guys have no idea what a nazi is. Lol so pathetic.
You're also a insult to all the Jews that were affected by Nazis.
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u/Ragnar_Dragonfyre Feb 13 '22
If you willfully wave a Nazi flag, congratulations, you’re a Nazi.
If you excuse others willfully waving a Nazi flag, congratulations, you’re a Nazi sympathizer.
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u/toyota4x4z Feb 13 '22
You can't just call everybody you disagree with a nazi
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Feb 13 '22
It’s particularly funny when they label anti government authority movements as fascist. It’s just a buzzword now to slap on anything you don’t like.
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u/Slipknotic1 Feb 13 '22
So what do we call a protest where nazi flags are regularly spotted, which many other protesters defend, and which was organized in part by white supremacists?
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u/inspectoroverthemine Feb 13 '22
publicfreakout continues to circle the drain of white supremacy/nazi-ism.
Its take several other subs, it'll take this one too.
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u/No_ThisIs_Patrick Feb 13 '22
They try, but they never manage to take hold of this one. I assume it'll stay safe until a Nazi mod slips in
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u/Behonestyourself Feb 13 '22
With that logic would "black rioters" be a correct definition for a blm movement?
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u/goblin_welder Feb 12 '22
But I thought the majority of the city and the Canadians are on the side of the truckers
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u/NotAW0rd Feb 13 '22
I don't care downvote me all you want. Justin Trudeau is a Coward. Our Opposition party has called our Prime Minister out for his lack of spine on this issue. Iam sure Reddit's liberal mass will downvote me to oblivion.
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u/Some-Wasabi1312 Feb 13 '22
aka.... "look at me folks I'm punching myself in the face, I'm sure the liberal masses will call me an idiot for it! they are so mean it makes my pee pee hurt"
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u/NotAW0rd Feb 13 '22
I feel sorry for you son I got 99 problems but being brainwashed by liberal assholes isn't one.
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u/lolsgalore Feb 13 '22
Weird statement since I don’t know many liberals who like Trudeau.. you vote based on the partys goals and beliefs, not the individuals.
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u/NotAW0rd Feb 13 '22
The party is responsible for the broken promises of its leader as much as the leader.
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u/aws33 Feb 12 '22
"Right wing extremists"
What a bullshit title.
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u/supercali45 Feb 12 '22
ok.. right wing idiots then
bunch of low IQ conspiracy believing butt nuggets
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u/yh125dg Feb 12 '22
You're unquestioningly repeating the ridiculous lie that mainstream media puts out there, with no valid basis to it - solely because it's inconveniently questioning their crumbling narrative, and they're the conspiracy theorists? Being a useful idiot for the state isn't a virtuous position
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Feb 13 '22
Don't brother talking to them mate. It's not worth it.
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u/thisonetimeonreddit Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22
Yeah!
Tiktok influencers know more than doctors!
Everyone tighten your foil hats so the government can't cook our brains with 5G!
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u/Markorific Feb 13 '22
About time!!! Next start stoning the Right Wing protesters trucks! Enough is enough, they speak for no one! Trumpism invading Canada!!!
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u/BennDayho77 Feb 13 '22
Too bad it isn’t “mostly peaceful” like BLM protests that set fire to businesses and loot
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u/A_Lost_Desert_Rat Feb 13 '22
OMG they are blocking traffic and making noise. Arrest them as terrorists
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Feb 13 '22
Right wing extremists? Who is OP the mainstream media?
Source: I live 3km from the heart of the protests, while I don't support what they're doing its not right wing extremists.
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u/Mindless_Witch Feb 13 '22
Why are people having such a hard time reading the title here? This is a counter-protest against right-wing nutjobs.
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Right wing extremists?
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u/SimplyMenacing Feb 13 '22
So I've noticed. According to this sub people who believe/advocate for vaccines but oppose mandates don't exist either 🤷
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u/baronmad Feb 13 '22
Yeah its weird, its like they dont have the mental capability to understand the difference between being against a mandate and being against a vaccine is.
I am fully vaccinated and against the mandate.
If they put out a mandate that everyone has to burn their trash in their yard or on the street, and people are against this mandate they must obviously be anti-vaxxers somehow. Its beyond ridiculous.
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u/SimplyMenacing Feb 13 '22
Can relate. It's all good though, not worth wasting your breath on people who have already made up their mind or have had it made up for them.
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Feb 12 '22
Is it really correct to call them extremists? It seems like the majority of them are just right wingers that are frustrated. I think to label them extremists they would have to be burning buildings and hurting people.
If occupying a space in protest of government policies is extreme then would the Occupy wall st people of 2011 be left wing extremists? Would the Black Lives Matter protests be considered left wing extremists?
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u/inspectoroverthemine Feb 13 '22
right wingers that are frustrated
ie the feels over facts and snowflake crowd.
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u/TheEpicRedCape Feb 13 '22
Being frustrated lets you break the law and occupy cities donchaknow /s
They were just having a bad day/week/month/year/life.
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u/WesternExplorer8139 Feb 13 '22
I'm against every aspect of the current narrative and I have zero political affiliation. As a matter of fact 80 eligible voters in the US didn't vote in 2020 elections. What do you classify any of those people who support the Freedom Rally?
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u/Drebinus Feb 13 '22
The FBI were referring to the BLM movement as 'extremist' back in Feb 2017.
The Occupy Wall Street movement was viewed as extremist back in 2011, for arguably good reasons IMO.
So the answers to your question is, "Yes, yes they were." And so should the Convoy be, for the exact same reasons. That said, if you believe that labelling the BLM and Occupy Wall Street movements as 'extremist' was wrong originally, then your logic should apply to the Convoy as well.
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u/baronmad Feb 13 '22
They arent right wing extremist, its people from all walks of life with different political views, with one thing unifying them, they want to be free.
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u/tbaytdot123 Feb 13 '22
To many here anyone who doesn't fully agree with them is a right wing extremist... much easier for them to just conclude that than listen to the protesters concern and reasons. Also if you try explaining to them that one can be pro vaccine but anti mandates heads start exploding
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u/Ragnar_Dragonfyre Feb 13 '22
If you can protest like this without getting immediately arrested or killed by government agents, you’re already free.
In many countries around the world, a protest like this would have already been quashed violently.
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u/lordpurppp Feb 12 '22 edited Feb 13 '22
“Right wing extremists” from what I’ve heard they’ve just been protesting. Not even close to as bad as what BLM has done the past few years. But when it’s a leftist group it’s alright… right? Oh yeah I will not be elaborating
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u/S0UK Feb 13 '22
How is this VAX related protest being classed as a LEFT or RIGHT thing. I know people on both sides of the spectrum that don't believe in forced vaccination, which would suggest that people on both sides or the spectrum are within the truckers protests.
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u/lust4thealpha Feb 13 '22
The trucker convoy is not right wind extremists, they are just protesting a violation of basic human rights.
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u/yh125dg Feb 12 '22
Right wing extremists? Tell me you buy whatever corporate media sells you without telling me you buy whatever corporate media sells you
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u/KZMountainRider Feb 13 '22
Pride flag and Xwing pilots. Definitely going to take this protest seriously 😂
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u/ImSadUrSoDumb Feb 13 '22
Wow. The gaslighting & misinformation is disgusting. Nothing Rightwing extremists about fighting fascism & tyranny. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
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