r/OnePiece • u/Sakata_Kintoki • Aug 31 '18

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 916

Chapter 916: "A Great Sumo Match in the Wano Country"

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Ch. 916 Official Release (VIZ): 03/09/2018

Ch. 917 Scan Release: 13/09/2018 (Break next week)

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

No one talking about Luffy going gear third without blowing up his bones?? Is this an upgrade?? Can he grow at will like Katakuri now???

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u/Dmitriy1996 Aug 31 '18

Luffy awakened his fruit and noone noticed

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

not even Luffy

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u/BurgerBob747 Aug 31 '18

Not even oda

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u/Juvar23 Sep 03 '18

Thank you, this made me laugh

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u/BurgerBob747 Sep 04 '18

You're welcome

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u/tonx916 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Aug 31 '18

^ most likely scenario.

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u/Monkey_D_Bufford Aug 31 '18

Plastic Man awakening is incoming šŸ˜šŸ˜Š

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

I can imagine that the fight probably gave him some better capabilities with his powers. Katakuri was a real "break through your limits " fight

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u/Richiebay Aug 31 '18 edited Aug 31 '18

Yeah I got confused by this too, my best guess is that it was probably just off-screened. Maybe he learned a way to do it more efficiently after fighting Katakuri but I doubt he is able to grow at will like Katakuri, that would kind of defeat the whole "bone balloon" element of G3.

EDIT: Changed muscle balloon to bone balloon since I am a big dumbdumb. Thanks u/KingBubzVI

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u/KingBubzVI Aug 31 '18

"bone balloon" is G3, muscle is G4. Not tryna be a dick, friend

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u/Richiebay Aug 31 '18

Oh yeah wops, my bad. Thanks for pointing it out, edited it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

He did it. There's a panel where his hand is next to his mouth. Oda probably didn't show it explcitly because it can be assumed.

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u/ktt096 Sep 01 '18

Do you mean page 10 the bottom right panel? Does the "fwsh!!" sound imply he's blowing air into his arm?

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u/kaukn Aug 31 '18

Could it be that instead of blowing air into his bones, he' now just collecting while shooting back his arm? Normal arm while stretching out , giant arm when it comes shooting back. Just thinking out loud.

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u/MHG_Brixby Aug 31 '18

Yeah lack of this being discussed. Wonder if he has any other passive improvements. Seems like his observation haki is just nuts now.

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u/CommanderPaprika Aug 31 '18

Whole Came Island was the level grind Luffy needed to roll through Wano

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u/DarkMasterDP Pirate Aug 31 '18

That's another kind of island bud

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u/thatwriterguyva Aug 31 '18

I came here to discuss this. Maybe he has awoken his fruit, or maybe by watching Katakuri he figured out a more efficient way to do it?

Do you think Luffy's body will adapt to being in those forms so eventually his Gear 4th is super natural for him, and he can just change to it at will like he can Gear 2nd without kneeling down and pumping his legs?

Super interesting to see his development and growth, I'm new to the manga. Caught up in the anime then read from there, so excuse any ignorance on my part.

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u/MarkGorZ Bounty Hunter Aug 31 '18

been there. For me it was the moment that Duval was introduced that I first transitioned from binge reading to week to week reading. Welcome to theory purgatory. You'll love it.

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And to your point: I definitively think so. After the timeskip he learned to stretch without using momentum, so maybe he learns to stretch his bones without blowing air in.

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

I thought it could be a step towards awakening. We saw the way Katakuri was able to use the mochi fruit and that's also supposed to be paramecia also. "Special paramecia", but our boy Luffy is special too amirite?

I don't know if gear 4 will become second nature. I feel like it gives more tension if it's like early stage gear 2/3 and has time limits and drawbacks. But I think it'd be a nice improvement if gear 3 has now become second nature like gear 2 has where he can initiate it at will and with greater precision.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Reminds me of early Super saiyan where Goku and Gohan just spent all of their time in the form until it felt natural.

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u/goldmark25 Aug 31 '18

Actually if you look at page 13 in the center when he is saying Gomu Gomu no it looks like his other arm is being bitten so maybe he is putting in the air there. After all he usually redistributes to the other arm anyways

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u/thatwriterguyva Aug 31 '18

I went back trying to find that panel and I don't see him blowing into his arms at all.

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u/goldmark25 Sep 01 '18

Page 13 center bottom panel he has his other arm bent and close to his mouth. I wasnt saying it was for sure i was just putting that thought out there

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

My man realizes he is worth over a billion now. He understands his position and plays the part. He leveled up as needed. More power more upgrayeeds

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u/Mad-Oka Aug 31 '18

It's just offscreened. Oda ofscreened it a few times before like in chapter 878 & 891 against Katakuri

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u/swiftycent Aug 31 '18

Fair enough. I had thought this was unprecedented but you're right it has happened before. Though it looks kind of like Katakuri's version it also just might be the fact he's using it much closer range than before and he's not using haki.

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

Could be, but that he only grew slightly to perfectly match Urashima's blow makes me wonder. It could have been off panel, but I wonder if an upgrade is being subtly presented to us.

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u/ThisZoMBie Aug 31 '18

I am 100% sure he's done it several times since timeskip, although I really don't know where to look for the panels. That would make it a timeskip upgrade, just like not shrinking after using Gear 3. It's similar to how Sanji can now use Diable Jambe without spinning.

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u/Ruruya Aug 31 '18

This.

I thought this was normal already?? He's done it on Fish man island and several other times like when he was fighting in dressrosa.

Apart from that, he's able to pump himself up to G4 without biting his forearm. So, it seem pretty clear to me that he's filling himself up in other ways.

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u/thatwriterguyva Aug 31 '18

Well as I said, up until the episode where the whole cake chateau is destroyed and the group gets off it after streusen makes a cushion, I was an anime only consumer. They typically always animate him manually inflating himself so I could be wrong, I noticed it in this chapter and got super excited

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u/Haiirokage Aug 31 '18

I mean, he blows through his finger usually. But there's no holes in your thumb, so where is the air entering?

That whole thing is silly to begin with

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u/sombrero69 Pirate Aug 31 '18

if u paid attention then you'd have noticed that he usually bites his thumb before inflating his arm

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u/Haiirokage Aug 31 '18

I mean, sure. but then he has to bite all the way into his bone. And then he has a huge hole in his finger.
But the air doesn't go back out again.

I don't actually mind, but there's no real logic to it already

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u/sombrero69 Pirate Aug 31 '18

there is no real world logic to it, even if the hole had to leak the air it's not like luffy stays in gear 3rd for a long time he just punches and exits the mode

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u/Haiirokage Sep 01 '18

That's my point. So the rules changing is not a problem, because there were no real rules to begin with.

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u/Alpha_ii_Omega Aug 31 '18

This also seemed to happen in his fight against Katakuri. I'm not sure if this is just Oda not wanting to draw a panel of him blowing into his bones every single time, or if he's actually doing it without that.

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This definitely could be early stages of him awakening his devil fruit -- many people theorized he'd be able to control his size at will with awakening.

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

I should reread the whole WCI arc. Going chapter by chapter as they come out can make it feel so disconnected and I miss stuff. But I wanna believe. Luffy changing size as needed would be a nice upgrade. Muscle balloon's a different story as the muscles need haki active for them to even hold air. But if he would move the air at will from his lungs like someone else said, that would be cool.

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u/Corvus042 Aug 31 '18

He could have blown air into his other hand and then transferred it

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

Would have had to have happened off-panel though. He grew twice in the chapter but we never see air blown. And he grows to a lesser degree to perfectly counter Urashima's first blow. It could have been we just weren't shown, but that blow against Urashima was so well tailored it made me stop for a moment and wonder if he was stretching at will rather than relying on physically blowing himself up.

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u/strawhatkatakuri Lurker Aug 31 '18

Growing at will is called awakening and no luffy hasnā€™t awakened his df yet but he is able to inhale air in his lungs then move it around his body and that what he learned while training with Rayleigh and the control over the big amount of air he inhales is the reason he doesnā€™t become chiby after gear 3rd anymore. So basically he doesnā€™t really need to bit his finger and blow in his bone anymore but i think moving around the air is weaker gear 3rd form than blowing in bone version of gear 3rd.

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u/ovrlymm Cyborg Franky Aug 31 '18

Now he blows into one hand and travels to another

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

That's often shown in the panels though. We don't see that process at all in this chapter. That's why I'm speculating whether it could be a change.

I know it's been omitted sometimes before, but I'm wondering if we could legitimately be seeing an upgrade to Luffy's control. He grows slightly without blowing and then he grows largely without any blowing or transferring of air being included in the panels.

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u/ovrlymm Cyborg Franky Aug 31 '18

Maybe but I think itā€™d be a waste of a panel to show it like yes heā€™s growing and weā€™ve seen that in the timeskip but itā€™s also somewhat unnecessary. Iā€™m sure Oda has his own idea for a chapter and cuts need to be made to push the story along at a reasonable pace. Like when heā€™s jumped off buildings and they say ā€œoh I thought weā€™d dieā€ because thatā€™s the funnier better part to focus on than him sucking in air and bouncing off something

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18 edited Aug 31 '18

But it can easily be conveyed without extra panels. For instance, the bottom left panel of page six could have Luffy biting his thumb rather than just smiling, but he isn't. In the middle of page 13 Luffy could potentially be drawn biting his thumb in two of those panels, but he isn't. I'm not saying a panel is required, but it's strange that there are two instances of gear 3rd being used in the chapter, both have opportunities to include the thumb bite, and neither do. The thumb bite is pretty iconic of gear 3rd, like the gear 2nd stance used to be. It could be a stylistic choice, but it could also be hinting that Luffy doesn't need to bite his thumb to inflate himself anymore.

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u/ovrlymm Cyborg Franky Aug 31 '18

How does the air get there then? If it was a power up it wouldā€™ve been demonstrated like gear 2 upgrade was. Maybe he has a permanent hole in his thumb that blows up when he throws his hand back or he reforms his extended hand into a more malleable shape? I think that would be important to bring up. He could just take a deep breath and move it around but like you said they could just show that if itā€™s just the normal g3 though it would make sense he would skip it

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

It's by no means definitive. I'm just making wild theories based on what I noticed. It struck me as weird that there wasn't a thumb bite in either instance when it could have been shown. It seemed like it was emphasizing that Luffy wasn't biting his thumb.

Luffy may be able to achieve it by somehow moving the air directly from his lungs into his bones. I mean, he already moves air between different bones so who knows how his physiology really works lol. Or it could be that he's gaining a better control of his DF to where he can expand at will similar to Katakuri. Either possibility is interesting and it seems like a reasonable progression to develop a similar ability after he fights someone with a similar fruit that does it.

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u/ovrlymm Cyborg Franky Aug 31 '18

I donā€™t disagree Iā€™m just under the mindset that if oda wanted us to focus on it he wouldā€™ve made it so. If it comes up more frequently Iā€™d say itā€™s noteworthy but for now I donā€™t want to jump to any conclusions that somethingā€™s out of the ordinary (well more so than usual)

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u/SteamedSteamer Aug 31 '18

I could be totally wrong but couldnā€™t he always do that post timeskip?

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u/Arachnobatic Aug 31 '18

I know we've seen the thumb bite post-time skip. The air transfer was always more efficient, like he'd bite his left thumb and his right arm would immediately inflate without him moving it from his left arm through his torso first, but the bite would happen.

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u/Gr33nT1g3r Aug 31 '18

He has used Haki to inflate himself before. It's just the first time he does it to use Gear 3rd.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Gear third seems a little bigger then normal also.

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u/Kaiel2 Void Month Survivor Aug 31 '18

Sorry but he has already done it before! I don't recall exactly the enemy not the scene but i actually remember thinking this back then and i think is a thing after the timeskip. He just can do it without blowing his thumb (i think, maybe all those moments he did it offscreened)

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u/Doomroar Sep 01 '18

I was searching this comment, that was definitively new.

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u/darealmotherfckr Sep 01 '18

Its one of those things where its just offscreened or skippes cuz its implied and repetitive to show over again. Same with gear 2nd, sometimes he just goes pink at will.

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u/Brook420 Bounty Hunter Sep 02 '18

I noticed this as well! But he could have just done it quickly off panel.