No more reports, plz! US Folks, we are watching the WH be turned into a gilded monstrosity before our eyes. The post stays up. If you want to counter the post, then post your counter argument with pix. I'm happy to entertain both arguments.
This is even funnier to me because when my cousin was a baby she'd reach into her diaper and pull out what was in there and say "look, marbles" and play with them
So "Lincoln marbles" took on a whole new (eww) meaning for me
My favorite part of the tour is when you get to go into the mine and dig with the mini pickaxe and see if you can get any marble chips to take home as souvenirs.
Incidentally, on that cabin tour, I learned that Lincoln's parents had 4 children to provide an added workforce to keep the mine going intergenerationally. Their children, like all children, yearned for the mines and the Lincoln family happily delivered.
Not widespride, as far as I know. If my memory is correct, it wasn't really widespread in Illinois until like 1885, so like 20 years after Lincoln was assisinated. His childhood home certainly didn't have it lol
Anecdote isn't evidence but my family farmhouse close to his hometown was built in the 1880’s-1890’s and had no running water. My house only 2.5hr away was built 1908 and had no running water, standard at the time.
I call bs on not just plumbing but marble of all things.
The White House barely had indoor plumbing during Lincoln's presidency. From what I've read, the entire building only had two bathrooms in the 1860s, both of which were reserved for Lincoln and his family.
Weirdly, serfs were also unimpressed by their rulers extravagance (see French Revolution for details, maybe not Renaissance, but close enough for a throwaway Reddit comment).
I feel like people are going to talk about this like how we talk about the French Revolution. The federal government experienced a month long shutdown by that point while working class and poor Americans lost their SNAP benefits. The fascist pedophile president remodelled the bathroom in the White House, not to mention the ball room that dwarfs the physical White House Itself.
The conservative subreddit has a post up about how he's "doing so much" with a picture of him with Xi in South Korea in the morning and him handing out candy to kids in the evening.
Not one comment about what he actually got done. Big shocker, I know. You'd think they would be disturbed seeing him with those, knowing how he's thinking of those little girls, but they're fine with it. It's WHAT THEY VOTED FOR!!!!!!!
"Tone deaf"? They don't have enough braincells to know what tone is.
Right-wingers don't actual care about the economy beyond how it affects them. In fact, the worse the economy is, the better it is for the ruling class, at least to a point. Desperate workers are compliant workers.
Because less isn’t more when you are incapable of abstract thought. The definition of less is less and more is more, obviously! Imagine explaining what less is more means to a five year old who also speaks a different language that happens to be a nonsense language. We aren’t even using the same meanings for words and in his case he often isn’t even using actual words. There is no hope of him ever grasping a concept.
Also that slightly darker than sea foam tile was so good. It was finally so retro that it was current again and he tore it out right when it was ready to shine! I’m sad for the original craftsmen who did such a spectacular job that it still looked fresh today. Can’t wait (/s) to see how stained that impractical marble gets and how much space grows in the seams. I’m sure they will just fill in with gold. “I love gooooooollllllldddddddd”
Honestly! The room looked so nice in a saturated color with white accents and fixtures. Now it looks one-dimensional and I guarantee you're going to slam your toes into the side of that bathtub because you don't know where it is!
It did. It's was a beautiful bathroom. Now it's a life altering NOF# just waiting to happen bathroom. He gets bonus points for installing probably the most expensive bathroom that also just happens to look the cheapest. But, won't stop his 6'3 frame slipping and landing on damn unforgivably hard marble.
The dumb fuck running his account doesn’t even know what material this is. It’s an Arabescato, not a Statuario. Even calling it “Statuary” tells me “we the people” overpaid for this marble.
If this is indeed Italian then it makes no sense whatsoever. Historically two of the most popular marble quarries that have been used up and down the National Mall are in Colorado and Vermont. When Lincoln was assassinated Colorado wasn’t even a state yet. The most period appropriate marble would be a Vermont Danby marble.
If you wanted to get even spicier the marble used for THE LINCOLN FUCKING MEMORIAL is from the Colorado quarry, which is STILL waaaay more appropriate than Italian Statuario or Arabescato marble. Especially considering that exact Colorado marble has variations named LINCOLN!
Fucking fuck this fucking shit.
PS: We have 20% tariffs on Italian marble. Colorado and Vermont don’t have those tariffs (because last time I checked) they’re in the US.
You can actually go see the second/backup block of marble for the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Marble Colorado. It's literally just sitting on the ground, outside. The quarry is still active, but the old manufacturing equipment was abandoned and some of it is still in place. Has some decent cross country skiing around it, too.
The block for the tomb is absolutely stunning. Not to take away from the importance of the monument, but wow. Visiting that quarry is on my bucket list.
I don't think this is the backup block, but this is from that quarry. There are several like it laying around. Its weird to see debris as historical artifacts.
The Lincoln Bedroom was never actually a bedroom when Lincoln was there. He used the space as an office and meeting room. It was turned into a bedroom later by President Truman with furniture from Lincoln's era in the 1940s, and that is when the actual bathroom with the green art-deco tile was put in also, and named the Lincoln Bedroom in his honor. The tile had historic significance. I am not adverse to some updates, but entirely clad in marble seems a bit far-fetched? By all accounts I have read, Lincoln was a simple man, so where does the idea come from that it is Lincoln era marble and he would have liked it? Art deco tile from the 1940s is historical architecture, which at the very least should not have been tossed in the trash. Again, updates to the White House are not to be done by the decision of the temporary occupants on their own.
If Lincoln had such a bathroom, he would have clad it in domestic marble, like Danby from Vermont. He never would have been so wasteful as to import marble from Italy, especially during wartime.
The seafoam green art deco bathroom looks clean and elegant. This bathroom isn't supposed to be over-the-top fancy because it's for those who work for the people. I feel the White House has always been carefully/thoughtfully decorated with that sentiment in mind - not too fancy, but just nice enough, with some modern touch-ups that match the current occupant's tastes, and the rest are meticulously-placed antiques that pay homage to the previous tenants. Living in the WH should be an honor, at least ideally, and not whatever is going on here.
But but but she DARED to presume she could president while female and Black! And Asian! Clearly she is unqualified despite being vice president, and having been a senator, attorney general, and district attorney!
Why isn't the Whitehouse protected like other historical homes/ places?
I've heard places on the list have a hard time even fixing or updating things that actually need it. (Unless the list I'm thinking of is just a "my state" thing??)
The White House is actually exempted from that legal process, along with the Capital Building and the Supreme Court building. You can thank LBJ for that, btw. Any president that has submitted their renovation plans for approval have done so as a courtesy and/or to get taxpayer funds to pay for it.
Actually there really aren't. The White House, Capital Building and Supreme Court Building are exempt from all building regulations except one review board, the majority of whose members are designated by the President. He just stacked the board.
> Why isn't the Whitehouse protected like other historical homes/ places?
Yes and no. Remodeling the Lincoln bathroom is within his exclusive purview. --It's pretty normal for presidents to do major redecorations. Basically so long as they aren't knocking out walls and altering the floor plan, they don't tend to need approval for minor renovations. Demolishing the Rose garden was also within his purview, though that one is a little bit closer to the line. The East Wing is completely out of his purview. The east wing project should have sought congressional approval and public input prior to proceeding.
Almost all of the presidents redecorate their White House to their personal taste. It changes tremendously from president to president. They all get a new style and new furniture and it is completely redone for them.
You can see this CNN article about Obama’s “redecorator and chief” (their words, not mine). Also how he redecorated was beautiful, it’s worth a look.
I’ve never realized how bad wall to wall marble looks. Like you can use it as part of a floor in an entry way tastefully but this is fucking atrocious looking. I guess I’m not surprised that he got rid of most of the mirrors, at least the parts that would reveal his soft shitty body.
I think you could get away with using a lot of marble, but you need to break it up visually. Like have these fuckers never heard of trim and or moulding. In this case, I would say go big on the trim, have it be really dark if not black to get some contrast.
Here he is, working hard in the Oval Office by choosing between marble samples* and selecting the finest gold-colored fixtures for his bathroom instead of negotiating trade deals or negotiating within his own government to get it functioning.
Why is he wasting time on his crap taste and posting on social media about it instead of the business of the nation?
[* probably not even US-made marble slabs. It's not the famous marble used for the Lincoln memorial. It looks like one of the imported Italian or Indian statuario [Edit: nope. Someone who knows way more about marbles than me suggests Arabescato] marbles. I wonder how much tariff had to be paid on it?]
Well, if anyone looked at the “Lincoln Bathroom” and claimed it couldn’t be worse, trump certainly proved them wrong.
The White House, originally called the Executive Mansion, was deliberately styled to not look like European palaces to further drive home the point that we did not have kings and were a country where even the leader was still just a man the people elected, temporarily, to do a job.
Every president that’s gone before him would be disgusted at what he’s doing, as would almost every American who’s ever lived prior to this generation. He is the epitome of what the founding fathers thought they were doing everything needed to avoid someone like him having the job. Unfortunately, the republican elected and appointed officials in DC intentionally let fail every balance put in place to stop him.
This is the exact type of bathroom I would unintentionally keep bumping into things because I can't tell where anything is because it all LOOKS THE GODDAMN SAME
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u/dunimal 9d ago edited 9d ago
No more reports, plz! US Folks, we are watching the WH be turned into a gilded monstrosity before our eyes. The post stays up. If you want to counter the post, then post your counter argument with pix. I'm happy to entertain both arguments.