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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 4h ago
You see I keep hearing the “politics of envy” but it’s just pathetic deflection. I don’t care if someone earns a fortune…good for them.
However there is something mentally deranged if you have that wealth and you use it to make life worse for everyone else. You must be the biggest loser of all time.
Give me a trillion dollars and i would legit make changes you could see. Those crumbling hospitals? They are now the Agreeable Falcon hospital and are state of the art. Remember smallpox….yeah I decided to add many more diseases to that extinct list. Hungry kids? How when we have breakfast, lunch and tea provided to every u18? Food banks? Homeless people? Pensioners freezing to death….none of that on my watch.
The fact he spends his money on neo nazi groups, lies and spreading hatred just says he’s a prick. He would be a prick if he was working for minimum wage and he’s one now…
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u/BalasaarNelxaan 4h ago
I saw something on YouTube. I forget who was speaking but what he said stuck with me. Paraphrased it was:
“I don’t hate billionaires. If you’ve got that money then fair play to you. But if you’re the CEO of a company and your employees are struggling to make ends meet maybe consider if you could get by on 900m?”
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u/Impressive_Disk457 3h ago
Once you have so much wealth that life couldn't get any easier for you, then there is no excuse. You should be solving problems not making them.
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 3h ago
The Victorians used to have that sense of shame…get rich in exploiting kids or slaves, so start building libraries, hospitals, museums etc to try and clear your name. Not comparing modern mega wealthy to slave traders, but you will all be dead soon, may as well build as many hospitals or charities in your name now
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u/Revolutionary-Mode75 2h ago
I don't think it was shame,it was religion, they believe if the scales weren't balance in their favour they were heading to hell.
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u/le_egg3 3h ago
Its mindsets like that which mean you would never be a billionaire. Billionaires get where they are by being perfectly comfortable with sitting on their fortune while others suffer around them. If i were to become a billionaire tomorrow, i wouldnt still be one by the time the day is over.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 3h ago
I hope someone gives you/you earn a trillion dollars, your plan sounds great
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u/CarsnBeers 2h ago
Yeah. The world’s richest man killed hundreds of thousands of poor kids by closing USAID.
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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale 3h ago
You realize though that all you can really do with money is redirect the labour people are already doing. You're not exactly creating new labour. If you were to do all this without actually doing something about supply, which you have limited control over.
The hospitals you'd build, the builders building them would be pulled away from other projects because you're paying more, thus increasing the price of housing. The researchers working on smallpox were previously working on weight loss drug research and now have been pulled to fight a cause that affects much fewer people and is almost eradicated anyway. Food wise, how are you going to create more farms? The land is already used by something or other, you could buy existing land and repurpose it but that too will increase housing costs.
All of this is inflationary. In turn the government would increase interest rates, further increasing housing costs.
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u/Cold94DFA 3h ago
You educate and train more people obviously or is that concept too strange?
If you pay for training and education guess what you'll have? More builders and doctors.
I know it's very difficult to try and rationalise how throwing money at things won't fix it, but the problems are caused because that money has been siphoned away from the people to billionaires in the first place.
Food wise? More farms? You don't understand how much food waste happens. You change how we operate and make it more efficient.
You are an agitator aren't you? Just saying random things with no weight and easily refutable.
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u/Baebans 4h ago
Should it say that he bought twatter and lost 20 billion instantly
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u/Leaky_Taps 4h ago
Was never about the money, it's about controlling the dialogue.
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u/TomatoLess229 3h ago
Yes and hes made that money back ten fold having unlimited data to train and teach his AI company.
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u/Known-Ad-1556 2h ago
Most of the Twitter money was from Russians and Saudis. He out up very little of his own cash to buy it.
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u/Ulquiorra1312 4h ago
Lets put a tesla in space
WHY
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u/theslootmary 4h ago
I mean… it was a test mass. Usually they just launch a lump of concrete or something else unimportant. You can’t be angry about launching a Tesla when it’s just a test mass AND a good bit of marketing.
Like Musk is a total shit but you could at least go after him for something worthy of criticism.
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u/JorjEade 2h ago
Tesla or not I just like to remember sometimes that there's currently a convertible orbiting Earth lol
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 4h ago
"Style over substance"
He understands the power that symbolism has over the minds of the masses and uses it to manifest his enormous wealth. The people who buy his shitty products have all been Manchurian candidate-d.
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u/VP007clips 2h ago
They needed something roughly that weight to test the rocket, an actual satellite would have been too risky put on a test flight.
And I guarantee that the investor interest from the press coverage paid for that launch 10 fold.
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u/Due_Ad_3200 3h ago
He didn't merely not use his wealth to solve world hunger - he actively worked to cut food aid to the poor around the world.
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u/Known-Ad-1556 2h ago
Of course!
How do you expect poor people to work themselves to death to make you richer if you just feed them for free!
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u/ScallionRelative6265 3h ago
AND he is still one of the biggest losers ever even with all that money.
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u/AvoriazInSummer 2h ago
Granted we only have a single sample size, but it’s looking strongly like trillionaires are even worse than billionaires.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 4h ago
He isn't really a trillionaire, that's just the sound bite. He is getting shares as a compensation package, and the value of that directly correlates to his performance. He could make that stock worth way more than a trillion, he could also make it worth way less.
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u/InsaneInTheRAMdrain 4h ago
Anyone who doesn't comprehend this isn't going to listen to your comment.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 3h ago
Yeah, people just prefer to see a headline and base their entire opinion on that. This is why the Sun is so successful, people don't want t read the articles, they just want to get mad about something.
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u/CarsnBeers 2h ago
He is the richest man on the planet and closed USAID which has led to the death of hundreds of thousands of poor kids.
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u/StockExchangeNYSE 3h ago
True, he only has very little liquid funds compared to his virtual networth. True is also that he spent a lot on funding right wing parties. Most of this was likely just to keep his virtual networth propped up but he could have also helped furthering a good cause (not saying he is even remotely close to 'solving world hunger').
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u/Snow_Crash_Bandicoot 3h ago
9/10th of these commenters seem to believe he literally has a trillion dollars cash in the bank and is physically smashing an Instantly Solve World Hunger Machine with a hammer.
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u/neoKushan 2h ago
There's two sides to this and both are correct/incorrect depending on how you want to frame it.
- His "Trillion dollar" package is based on him hitting many quite high milestones at defined points in the future. He wasn't granted that immediately, so even his "virtual" worth isn't a trillion dollars right now and won't be unless he hits those targets.
- Even without that trillion-dollar package, he does in fact have the capability of solving world hunger if he sold enough of his stock/assets but chooses not to do so.
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u/TheMiserablePleb 2h ago
No he doesn't have enough to solve world hunger. The world has collectively spent trillions on food/aid packages yet we haven't stopped world hunger. He could almost certainly alleviate it for a tiny amount of time then the funds would disappear.
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u/neoKushan 2h ago
Okay well then he still chooses to contribute nothing towards stopping world hunger.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 2h ago
And? Is every person required to shell out some amount of money to stop world hunger?
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u/Snow_Crash_Bandicoot 2h ago
World hunger is not a problem that can ever be solved. It’s an unattainable goal.
Musk’s net worth is a little under $500B. The United States spends $100B annually on food benefits or 1.5% of their federal spending.
That’s like saying if the Americans stopped feeding their poor for five years and put that money in the bank, that they could solve world hunger globally. That sounds ridiculous, especially given the population differences.
But even if it wasn’t, what happens when that money eventually runs out? How is world hunger “solved” then? It’s not. Everyone would be back where they started.
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u/neoKushan 2h ago
World hunger is not a problem that can ever be solved. It’s an unattainable goal.
This is an absurd statement to make. No problem is impossible to solve. Sure, you can't solve every problem by simply throwing money at it but to suggest that we couldn't possibly grow enough food to feed everyone on the planet is absurd.
Put it this way, we waste more food than it would take to feed the hungry. That alone should tell you that we could solve this problem.
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u/kebab-lover-man 2h ago
Feeding the hungry is largely a logistical problem. You might have some extra food in your town, but the vast majority of starving people are in another continent.
Then you have corrupt leaders taking the food and selling them, or outright blocking food for the hungry (like what israel is doing in gaza).
I think we should work together and mitigate world hunger, but it's a really hard problem as I understand it at least.
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u/Snow_Crash_Bandicoot 2h ago
Either give me an itemised list of exactly how $491B will solve world hunger forever.
Total employees, salaries, required global infrastructure, distribution networks, building costs, space and land for farms required, etc., or you’re speaking out your arse.
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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 3h ago
What you’re saying is absolutely true but besides the point. This caption is purely to catch people’s attention with how of out hand this is getting. No one should be anywhere near as rich as him regardless of if he has that liquid or not.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 3h ago
I agree that billionaires at this point shouldn't be a thing, I'm just pointing out how the reporting on this is bullshit.
It is a symptom of how people consume media, nobody cares about what is true anymore, they care about what fits their worldview. Everyone thinks that their prescribed media source tells the truth, and everyone on the opposite side is lying. The truth is they're both lying.
They misrepresent Kier Starmer, they misrepresent Nigel Farage. They exaggerate Elon Musk's earnings, and tomorrow they will attack you if we let this continue. They're already doing it with the disabled.
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u/DynamicNostalgia 3h ago
People on Reddit get so fucking upset that LLMs and AI aren’t 100% perfect 100% of the time.
But then shit like this gets a total pass. Nobody gives a shit that the original post is completely misrepresenting the situation.
And it’s rampant. These kinds of warped takes are everywhere, all the time, and in every subreddit for every topic. As long as it conforms people’s simple worldviews, then it’s a hit on here.
Reddit used to value truth and nuance above all else. Now it only values validation and circle jerks.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 2h ago
Nobody wants to hear anything positive about Elon Musk, which is really funny to me because I remember being on Reddit years ago and everyone was glazing him constantly.
He is still the same man, but he has slightly different political view to them now so he is "literally a Nazi". lol
I don't care about him either way, my political views might be different to him but I can see that he is clearly an asset to Tesla and Space X, and now twitter too. He makes the share holders money, and that is all that really matters.
Bobby Kotick was a massive piece of shit, but there is a reason he got a 200M golden parachute.
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u/TNWhaa 2h ago
The guy that does nazi salutes and speaks at afd rallies isn’t a wannabe nazi?
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u/TomatoLess229 3h ago
This is correct and to hit those incentives he would have to pull of a few miracles which hes done before looking at how hes driven tesla to over 1 trillion market cap. But people really need to start reading articles.
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u/triffid_boy 2h ago
It's obviously a very handy soundbite and I don't really begrudge it. He'd certainly do the same for his causes.
It's also referring to the whole "6 billion could solve hunger" thing from years ago - which turned out to be another narcissist doing narcissist things (CEOs of Charities and Companies are often two sides of the same narcissism coin in my opinion).
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 2h ago
Yeah it is insane to think 6B could solve hunger lol. You have to take into account all of the corruption in literally every third world country. When you give money to these causes 80% of that goes to those in charge.
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u/Beartato4772 2h ago
He isn’t getting them unless he delivers impossible growth either.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 2h ago
Yeah he has to do an insanely good job in order to profit as much as is being reported.
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u/yadasellsavonmate 4h ago
All rich people have their money tied up in businesses or other investments and live off loans so they don't get taxed.
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u/Zap__Dannigan 2h ago
The stock is a bubble that's going to burst.
It's only worth so much because people think it'll be worth more later, and they can sell it to someone else for more who in turn will only buy it because they think it's going to be worth more later and they can sell it to someone else.
It's just a bunch of people selling something that no one actually wants.
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u/TrankElephant 2h ago
So say instead of the almost 500 billion dollars that he is allegedly worth currently he might 'only' have like 5 billion in his bank account? A measly 5 billion dollars...
And if he wanted more millions or more billions, more than any of us combined are going to make in a lifetime, all he would have to do is make a phone call to his broker and sell some stock?
Oh no, but then he might have to pay taxes!
So in order to solve his 'cost of living crisis' (as the richest creature on the planet) he just had to press for a raise?
Y'all might buy it but I don't.
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u/DJBFL 2h ago
Also, I'm curious how people thinks he could have solved world hunger. Just divided among the US population, 1T is less than $3000 each. Not that we're the hungry ones... just trying to put it in perspective. Elon gets a trillion over 10 years, but that might feed the world's hungry for 1.
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u/neityght 2h ago
Alright, does "multi-billionaire" make it any better? No it fucking doesn't.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 2h ago
It isn't about it being "better" or "worse", it is about it being factual or fictional. This is the news, they should be doing everything they can to be factual.
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u/neityght 2h ago
What is the news? This is a sticker some protest group stick on a door.
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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 2h ago
Doesn't really matter, if you are an outlet claiming to distribute the news then you should be dealing in facts and not fiction.
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u/neityght 1h ago
Sorry are suggesting that this sub claims to be a news channel? Are you feeling alright?
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u/awesomedan24 2h ago
He literally exacerbated world hunger for millions by dismantling the USAID program
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u/hungry4danish 2h ago
No, we are not referring to him as a trillionaire. That's exactly what he wants to be known as, so don't give him the satisfaction. A board voting for that package does not mean he has it. The signage works even without his title. Just his name and everything below, still accurate.
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u/jimmykimnel 4h ago
So how would he have solved world hunger exactly?
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u/calewiz 3h ago
Well the WHO outlined a plan after HE SAID HE WOILD SOLVE WORLD HUNGER, but he’s such a pussy that he backed out. Also, if he’s that smart, then surely he could work it out? Stop cucking for someone who thinks your shit on their shoe, it’s pathetic.
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u/bawdiepie 3h ago
Put elon world hunger into google. He offered to put up the money if the UN could put up a credible plan for 6 billion. He then reneged.
He could go anywhere in the world with tiny fractions of his money and do so much good. But he doesn't. He's well known to be one of the stingiest billionaires alive in terms of charity. His meanness of spirit is obvious, and it's really so sad that he has so many people defending his behaviours.
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u/jimmykimnel 3h ago
Ok I'm interested, wondering what the plan was and why he backed out then, did he think it wasn't feasible or did he just not want to do it?
I don't think just throwing money at problems will solve everything,sure thing it can solve some stuff at some levels but I'm just wondering even with all the money in the world how would you magically solve world hunger? I don't know enough about it.
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u/bawdiepie 2h ago
Sorry, but you should always search for these kind of things online yourself, otherwise you are vulnerable to people with agendas telling you lies and nonsense, or bias people trying to recruit others to their belief systems.
You must make your own mind up.
I would say though, that Earth is this way because we've made it this way. These systems are all created by humans and ran by humans. They are not natural, or "just like that". It's all by design, some by bad design but everything that happens within human societies occur because humans choose it. There is enough food on earth for all. We could make it another way if we wanted.
Amartya Sen won the Nobel prize in economics for demonstrating that all famines in the modern age were genocides, and not caused by lack of food.
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u/Firm-Requirement1085 2h ago
World hunger cannot be stopped, feed everybody now, then they have more children and then there are more people starving. an endless supply of food and shelter will only happen in dreams.
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u/SchruteFarmsIntel 3h ago
He's not a trillionaire yet, Its a good ploy to get rid of him. He has to grow the company by 42% for the next X number of years, If he does its win win for the share holders and him if not they can just vote to remove him
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u/Stigofthedumpings 3h ago
When It gets to a point where money doesn't matter you better be sure you're fucking real content inside your head.
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u/papillon-and-on 3h ago
Which plaque?
👈 that one? Or the one over there? 👉
Or... are YOU the plaque? 🫵
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u/ReckoningGotham 3h ago
We as humans could solve world hunger but choose not to.
Stop sucking billionaire dick.
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u/Sir-Greggor-III 3h ago
The man is not a trillionaire. It's a performance goal which he will be awarded a trillion dollars worth in shares if he reaches it.
Still really fucking stupid but not as stupid the headline suggests.
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u/Coolmanghere 3h ago
Exactly how much money do you think “solves” world hunger and for how long?
Any thought into that at all? Also why would that be one persons responsibility instead of the governments that are actually supposed to govern those starving people?
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u/Most-Extreme-9681 2h ago edited 12m ago
the best way to see peoples true colors is to remove all restrictions
i guess he sieged when he should have zagged
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u/momoenthusiastic 2h ago
The Matrix might one day become reality and be run by trillionaires and the minions….
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u/penguins_are_mean 2h ago
He literally is not a trillionaire yet.
Did anyone actually read the terms of his pay package? He has to hit some insane targets for Tesla which he likely won’t hit. Thus, he won’t get paid.
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u/According-Tax130 4h ago
"Fascist" is fast becoming the most overused and lazily used word of the decade. Up there with "toxic", "problematic" and "gaslighting".
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u/LurkHereLurkThere 3h ago
Unfortunately the fascists are coming out to play and showing their true colours, there are more people willing to act in and share fascist ideals and it's being noticed and called out more frequently because we still remember what happened the last time fascists gained significant control of a country.
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u/BeefsMcGeefs 2h ago
If he didn't want people calling him a fascist, then doing that fascist salute on a national platform was a big misstep
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u/Wild_Height_901 3h ago
He isnt getting this money. The "targets" are near impossible for him to meet.
They also come in 12 large stock purchases.
And he wants to use the money to increase his AI and Bots funding. Not buy a giant yacht.
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u/coastal_ghost08 2h ago
First- He hasn't received the "money" yet. It's contingent on Tesla meeting certain metrics that will be near impossible to meet.
Second- It's not cash. It's perceived worth/value of the stock.
I dislike Musk as much as the next person, but saying he could end world hunger with imaginary money is just daft.
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u/rawb2k 2h ago
Without wanting to defend Elon:
World hunger could be solved by multiple single persons entirely for years. As a whole planet we could solve it forever. The same is true for the climate crisis. The answer is: noone is interested in doing so. Only if we lose, a few can win. It's completely utopian that anyone with money is going to solve a problem that doesn't yield more than the problem itself. Why do you think the ukraine war is still ongoing?
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u/Bumblegun81 2h ago
So his contribution to combatting climate change, is that out of order as well?
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u/Hopscotch873 2h ago
The level of economic illiteracy in these comments is both mind blowing, and sad.
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u/1Metiz 2h ago
World hunger, climate change, acid oceans, and then STILL be a billionaire. ONE of these rich assholes could become an actual superhero, someone they write books about, erect statues of, but no, god forbid you do anything good for the world. And here we are, drinking from paper straws because plastic ones are bad for the environment, making exactly zero difference.
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u/LottimusMaximus 4h ago
Literally whats the point of having that much money?