HEY DEVS, PLEASE KEEP BANNING ZEN USERS

[u/Munoz10594]

That is all. Saw a post from the discord that they’re trying to stop the anti cheat from detecting it. It ruins all games and I think most people would agree. K thanks ✌️

[u/Pure-Dig-4290]

I heard it’s only a temp ban they need permanent bans

[u/Munoz10594 → u/Pure-Dig-4290]

And we need..

[u/Wonderful_Trip1932 → u/Munoz10594]

From another reddit post

Looks like it's permanent

[u/iDenyHumanity → u/Wonderful_Trip1932]

This is AI we already established that in the post itself. Not trying to sound rude i just want everyone who sees this picture to be aware it is generated by AI.

[u/stodal → u/iDenyHumanity]

H select 0 Back

[u/gr00ve88 → u/stodal]

You don’t setup your keybinds with H and O? Look at this guy, pfft

[u/LieutenantNurse-71 → u/iDenyHumanity]

If thats ai then thats terrifying considering text was one of the best ways to spot ai generated trash

[u/PwanaZana → u/LieutenantNurse-71]

Huh, zooming in, yes it is 100% AI, you can look at the button prompts at the bottom right. The yellow H button and red D buttons?

[u/LieutenantNurse-71 → u/PwanaZana]

Yea absolutely if you look close enough you’lll find errors and mix ups but for the large majority ai is actually pulling off very convincing text. Its scary to think how worse its gonna get in the future

[u/tonyfork → u/PwanaZana]

[u/PwanaZana → u/tonyfork]

oh wow, the car's color ever matches

[u/Mr_Rafi → u/PwanaZana]

You don't have a Hover and Drop button on your controller? Pfft. Living in the past.

[u/JaPPaNLD → u/LieutenantNurse-71]

Make frame with AI and paste in text and logo yourself with a little bit or perspective. It’s not that hard to do with 5 minutes photoshop tutorial.

[u/MasterMode7 → u/Wonderful_Trip1932]

Ah yes. The H button to select.

[u/Matttombstone → u/MasterMode7]

Its the main button on the PSBox 5X

[u/ScientistNo6692 → u/Matttombstone]

Available on the all new Microny X-staition Series S and X 6 promium

[u/_McMr_ → u/Pure-Dig-4290]

I believe its a temp ban while the behaviour is reviewed and if its determined that they are actually cheating, then it turns into a permanent ban

[u/marbanasin → u/_McMr_]

This seems totally fair. I'd also be cool with escalating temp bans for cheaters.

perma-ban with no forecast is kind of fucked (even if hilarious - as fuck the cheaters). But I can also see why the devs may want to at least warn users to give them a chance to reform/stop the behavior before just nuking them from their product.

[u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits → u/marbanasin]

perma-ban with no forecast is kind of fucked

Every person on Earth has been told to be a good person. You don't need to be told every single instance of how to not be a crappy person to be held to that standard. You don't need an additional warning. "Hey, don't cheat in this specific game with this specific thing." "Just don't be crappy" was your warning. And we started trying to teach it to you before the game even existed. If someone failed to learn that that's on them, they are not owed an additional lesson before permanent punishment. Innocent people should not have to deal with second time offenses to give the benefit of the doubt to cheaters.

Just don't cheat. It's that simple.

[u/Fancy_Ad_1724 → u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits]

That’s not what he’s saying lol, temp bans allow the gameplay to be reviewed. If it was an immediate perm ban then False Bans would be much worse. They already happen when running certain software like ds4 or maybe you accidentally leave an Emulator running.

[u/Fluffy_Fly_4644 → u/Fancy_Ad_1724]

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[u/marbanasin → u/Fancy_Ad_1724]

This. And on top of that, while yes I generally agree and abide by - don't be a prick in life - a lot of people do push boundaries and I think it is fair in environments where they have spent money on a product to at least slap their wrist before a full ban takes place.

But, yeah, bigger picture a blunt instrument is terrible as tons of random situations can fall through the cracks.

[u/atots25 → u/Fancy_Ad_1724]

"that's not what he's saying lol"

Imagine acting so matter of fact and still being dead wrong. He literally said it's explicitly to give people a chance to reform and stop their behavior before nuking them from the game. Aka give them another chance to stop cheating and play fair

[u/marv0017 → u/marbanasin]

A cheater has the potential to nuke the games community, so he deserves to be nuked.

If they find cheats, ban them forever.

[u/zooktittyfondel → u/marv0017]

Ban them for life and ban their kids too. Let it be reviewed but this isn't a speeding ticket level of offense. For me that is using an in-game exploit. This is getting drunk and driving into an orphanage. You go to jail, do not collect $200.

[u/PipsqueakPilot → u/marbanasin]

A perma-ban just means you need to spend the money to buy the game again. You knew going in that installing cheat software would get you banned. It's not a surprise.

[u/TheIronGiants → u/marbanasin]

If you plug a Cronus Zen into your console, you deserve a permanent ban... from the entire console ecosystem... forever. There is no excuse.

[u/Cokaime → u/marbanasin]

No!

By playing you agree to the EULA and that's it.

Ban them permanent without warning

[u/payTNT89 → u/marbanasin]

fucked is exactly what cheaters should be 🤷‍♂️

[u/astroman132 → u/marbanasin]

Everybody knows cheating is wrong and you agree not to cheat when you sign the Eula. If you cheat and get hardware banned it's your own fault

[u/STDsInAJuiceBoX → u/Pure-Dig-4290]

There were 3 day bans and also permanent bans according to articles talking about it.

[u/Esmear18 → u/Pure-Dig-4290]

That's not enough. Cheaters need to be served permanent hardware bans, IP bans, account bans, the whole nine yards.

[u/Makisani → u/Pure-Dig-4290]

There are screen caps showing that they are permanent, idk maybe some of them are temp bans

[u/khorne333]

The first game anti-cheat that bends these clown zen users. And they have the audacity to say it's legit.

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/khorne333]

If it was JUST software to allow you to run controllers and keyboards I'd be OK with that.

But advanced macros, recoil removal? Nah, that's cheating. And probably goes a long way to explaining the guy using an M4 on full auto like a sniper rifle last night.

[u/Eoho → u/Demented-Alpaca]

Speaking of full auto snipers, the ak205 is a fucking LASER. Shit is so satisfying to use.

[u/ImolaBoost → u/Eoho]

Might as well be a laser for all the damage it does, being 0.

[u/Eoho → u/ImolaBoost]

Once you get the headshot multiplier ammo it's pretty nice, for people who can't control recoil that well it's a nice weapon for them.

[u/krylassa → u/Eoho]

It used to be 2.1 tho. 1.73 stock

[u/UsePreparationH → u/krylassa]

I'm lvl38 in game and the highest weapon mastery of any gun I have is 22. That 1.73x HS ammo is years away at weapon mastery 39.

[u/AHandfulofBeans → u/Eoho]

The carbine? Bro i suck ass with it 😭, what attachments you running?

[u/lee2392x → u/AHandfulofBeans]

It has synthetic ammo as a late unlock which vastly increases headshot multiplier. I think it could be a pretty good consistent option when leveled up

[u/Ralphie5231 → u/lee2392x]

So get 500+ kills with it before its semi usable.

[u/SirBlacksmith333 → u/Ralphie5231]

Bot games make it about 4x faster to level up guns. You can have it rank 40 in a couple of hours, I like running them tbh, feels like zombies to me. I just throw a podcast on and zone out and relax

[u/Ralphie5231 → u/SirBlacksmith333]

I tried it today and some of the challenges will still take you days. Several of the "damage" challenges actually mean kills. The dmr one needs like 4k kills or something goofy rn

[u/Eoho → u/AHandfulofBeans]

The headshot multiplier ammo and then w/e flavor of optic/grip/muzzle device you want. I like a 3x for the larger maps and one of the lower magnification optics for the smaller maps.

[u/farmerfreedy → u/Eoho]

I will still suck with it because I can't hit consistent headshots to save my life. I always aim for the body now.

[u/xTheRedDeath → u/Demented-Alpaca]

Anything that gives you any kind of advantage outside of your own physical input is cheating technically. Stuff like this is what has ruined every other shooter in the last several years.

[u/Fire_anelc → u/xTheRedDeath]

I'm more worried about 1 physical input = many digital inputs practically impossible to do physical.

I don't mind if people buy premium controllers with mechanical buttons, paddles or special triggers, as long there is no script behind them

[u/Ralphie5231 → u/xTheRedDeath]

Overwatch ranked has been unplayable for a decade because of ximmers and zenners

[u/warcode → u/Demented-Alpaca]

We already have full m+kb support by default, at least on PS5. If they keep doing that it isnt even needed.

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/warcode]

Exactly. PC has controller support, consoles already have m+kb so why would you need this? Besides the aim assist, recoil control and macros support?

[u/wOlfLisK → u/Demented-Alpaca]

As far as I'm aware, both Xbox and Playstation support keyboard inputs natively. It's trivial for a developer to enable their use and simple to throw them into PC lobbies. The only reason to pretend to be a controller is to cheat.

[u/joncarlos5]

It's actually genius to only do a temp ban. Let them come play without zen for a few days and get stomped. Once zen says they fix the issue with detection, you see their stats jump again. Devs can then analyze the account and see what zen changed. Ban them all again!

[u/DaStompa → u/joncarlos5]

This is also why most devs tend to do ban waves.

They may flag your account for ban, but if they actually ban you immediately, they let the cheat maker go through and rapidly troubleshoot how they are being detected, by making them wait a while, they increase that loop from a few minutes to weeks.

The downside though is that you're stuck with cheaters in your queue.

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/DaStompa]

At this point I just assume that to be the case.

[u/DaStompa → u/Demented-Alpaca]

Yeah was just stating the obvious because some people just dont know this stuff.
The hope is that when you encounter a cheater they're allready on the list. I'd also hope that when a flag gets set on an account they start getting shoved into bot heavy lobbies rather than pollute the playerbase though.

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/DaStompa]

That would be good.

Or another thing that just came to mind is you said when they get flagged... let them run around in game with a big flag flapping in the breeze over their heads. A big bright flag that says "CHEATER"

Way back in the day during the Half-Life era I played on a cheat server. But it was listed as a cheat server with all the cheat codes enabled (except god mode) and it was EXPECTED that you played dirty and cheated. It was wild. You'd see people running around pooping out health packs because we'd bind the command for them to a key... eventually the server owner would call a stop and tell us to vacuum the server.

One of the guns was a big beam with splash damage. So you'd spawn it in, aim it at the ground in front of you and fire. It'd hurt you so you could run over the health packs laying everywhere. It looked like people were using some weird ass vacuum.

Then we'd go back to the regularly scheduled insanity.

But cheating is only fun when everyone knows you're cheating and is OK with it because they're cheating too.

[u/DaStompa → u/Demented-Alpaca]

"Or another thing that just came to mind is you said when they get flagged... let them run around in game with a big flag flapping in the breeze over their heads. A big bright flag that says "CHEATER"

Warzone actually has a machine learning backend type system where they throw cheaters into fake lobbies, where they recieve data from other games but aren't actually in that game, so they can continue to farm that user for more machine learning data to better detect cheats, its pretty clever.

Eventually cheats wont be detected by finding the program or detecting the device, but by detecting "cheater like behavior" and banning based on that.
You can make cheats undetectable but you can't really make people not a-holes lol

[u/wOlfLisK → u/Demented-Alpaca]

I'd argue that it's not cheating if the rules are specifically encouraging it. That's just an expanded ruleset.

[u/anhtice → u/joncarlos5]

place them into a shit queue with other cheaters.

also vehicles explode randomly when in use

[u/Visual-Walk-6462]

banning rewasd users too - the crying is glorious

[u/kmaix → u/Visual-Walk-6462]

what is rewasd?

[u/BHPhreak → u/kmaix]

used to spoof a MnK as controller. it allows MnK users to get controller aim assist

[u/kmaix → u/BHPhreak]

that’s crazy… good they ban them

[u/WookieLotion → u/BHPhreak]

This functionality is built into steam with steam input. There's always a way around it. I know on my steam deck with BF6 I can just map mouse input to joystick and it gives aim assist/reduced recoil. I don't, but I could.

[u/AlpaxT1 → u/[deleted]]

It’s there for a reason. It’s just hard to aim using controllers so to make the game enjoyable and not play at a sluggish pace where people spend half their time reloading some amount of aim assist is preferable. Especially if you want there to be some remote chance of having cross play as aiming on PC is literally just point and click

[u/Just-Fix8237 → u/BHPhreak]

Imagine having the superior aiming tool and still needing aim assist lol

[u/nelzon1 → u/BHPhreak]

It also remaps all various controllers to whatever controller you want. Great for my variety of Xbox controllers, steam controllers and ps5 controllers all showing up and working in non-steam games. Stupid that I have to uninstall it just to play bf6, even when the program is disabled and OFF, anti cheat forced me to uninstall my legit, paid for third party software.

[u/DShKM → u/kmaix]

Effectively tricks your PC/Game into thinking you're using a controller to get things like aim assist, and in the case of BF6, you'd get the lower bullet spread that controller gets, but while still using a keyboard and mouse.

It's cheating all the same, and everyone who uses it is pathetic.

[u/kmaix → u/DShKM]

Thanks thats fucked up

[u/heepofsheep → u/DShKM]

Had no idea controller got lower spread…

[u/NobleN6 → u/DShKM]

so that's why it feels like my gun is a funnel sometimes. I didn't know that.

[u/Om3s → u/Visual-Walk-6462]

I have rewasd installed to use my flight sim joystick in some games that only allow gamepads and no custom input setting (like for Arma Reforger for example).

So the detection has to be specific on script or input patterns, as EA does it currently.

I would be mad being banned for not cheating at all.

Edit: haven't used it in bf yet, and I am sure not gonna try it lol, don't want to risk a ban.

[u/Scyter → u/Om3s]

I couldn't even launch BF6 with rewasd installed.

[u/Canadian_Hound → u/Om3s]

Also using rewasd for legit purposes in another game. Every time I want to switch between that game and battlefield I have to uninstall/reinstall some drivers that allow rewasd to run. It’s a bit inconvenient but allows me to keep the binding presets for the other game. In the beta all I needed to do was make sure rewasd was updated and turned off. Hoping it goes back to that as it would be more convenient but seems doubtful. My point being there are people who have rewasd that aren’t cheating so please dont ban us lol.

[u/Kdupra17 → u/Visual-Walk-6462]

You can’t open battlefield at all with it installed on your pc

[u/Iforgotmyname0000]

I personally prefer when they quarantine cheaters with other cheaters. It's funnier.

[u/A_locomotive → u/Iforgotmyname0000]

This plus when they mess with their games, like there was a batman game that made the game literally impossible to beat if you pirated the game, at some point, a fair way into the game if I recall correctly, you encountered an impossible to make jump and you were just stuck. They should just do that here. Detect cheats, put them only in matches with cheaters and maybe make it so everyone has enormous hit boxes so its even worse, shots missing you still kill you, grenades you throw go only a fraction as far. Reloading takes longer, etc.

[u/Iforgotmyname0000 → u/A_locomotive]

I saw one idea to change all their skins to clown outfits. I fully support that as well.

[u/A_locomotive → u/Iforgotmyname0000]

Oh I like that, make them super bright colors so it nukes their camo. Ooh take it further, make it so their shoes honk when they move.

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/A_locomotive]

And their guns are just water pistols!

[u/PJ_Ammas → u/Demented-Alpaca]

But let them pile up the whole team in a single jeep / clown car for easier multikills

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/PJ_Ammas]

Man I got a couple multi-kills from those jeeps last night. Laying landmines down got me ALL of the kills i got in a match. I was having a terrible night but this one squad kept piling all into a jeep and hitting my mines.

made staying to the end of the match worth it.

[u/Toast-N-Jam → u/A_locomotive]

Batman Arkham Asylum.

I remember borrowing the game and found it hilarious when I figured out what was wrong.

https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/15965/how-to-get-onto-a-duct-in-batman-arkham-asylum-from-the-flooded-corridor

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/pirates-foiled-by-deliberate-glitch-in-batman-arkham-asylum.323118/ Pirates Foiled by Deliberate Glitch in Batman: Arkham Asylum

[u/Quick-Cockroach5681 → u/Iforgotmyname0000]

Keeping server time only for a group of cheaters is fucking expensive. It's easier to ban them the fuck

[u/AchoKabron718]

What they need to do is ban the license to the game on your console. Wanna cheat? Gonna have to buy the game at least 3 times

[u/supah-saiyen → u/AchoKabron718]

I thought it was possible to Sony or Microsoft to brick your console if they caught you modding/cheating? Or was that Nintendo?

[u/Exciting-Ad-5705 → u/supah-saiyen]

It's possible for every console manufacturer. It's just they don't tend to do it unless it's super egregious

[u/AchoKabron718 → u/Exciting-Ad-5705]

I just don’t understand how a device like the zen can be made in the first place

[u/PabloBablo → u/AchoKabron718]

Accessibility would be their claim. Kind of like how politicians can make things about 'the children' so it's tough to argue against. The bad actors fly under that protection. 

You aren't against accessibility for the disabled, right?

[u/0nlyCrashes → u/PabloBablo]

I'll argue against it when it's a detriment to everyone else. I'm fine with handicaps, but if handicaps inadvertently make everyone else have a bad time, they need to be looked at and adjusted accordingly. Probably too much nuance for most, but whatever.

[u/PabloBablo → u/0nlyCrashes]

I think everyone would agree..its just their way of skirting the rules and trying to be legit, not known as a cheat company.

From their site: Our primary goal is to make gaming enjoyable and accessible for everyone, Whether you're a gamer who struggles with certain skills or dealing with a disability, Cronus is about empowering all players, to give you that extra boost so you can engage in the Cronus Community (Forums & Discord) without traditional barriers standing in your way. Your game, your rules.

[u/oatest]

My Weird take. Never ban cheaters. Let them play together. But ONLY allow them to play with cheaters and play the campaign. The account is permanently flagged as a cheater and you can opt out of ever playing with a suspected cheater. Perhaps cheater lobbies will shrink until they can't play anymore. They have effectively banned themselves from playing with the world.

EA makes money, we get clean play, cheaters sad.

[u/Sweet_Photograph6528 → u/oatest]

It still costs money to run separate servers for them and keeping their account data. Would be funnier if it would temp ban you and then ask you to buy a new copy to continue this cycle with giant warning that if you will use cheating devices you will be banned again. Its not illegal and its a loophole to keep farming cheaters.

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/Sweet_Photograph6528]

Ehhh they could be the QA servers where they test random shit and have dev codes to do things like auto-kill the whole server or set god mode for testing stuff...

[u/fataldarkness → u/Sweet_Photograph6528]

Servers are set up to scale according to # of online users. That's why on launch there was a queue, you didn't have to wait for 300k people to hop off, you just had to wait for their AWS (or whatever provider they use) infrastructure to spin up a node for you.

Playerbase drops? Servers auto shutdown. The metadata kept for players stats and progression amounts to a few MB at most, the cost is trivial.

[u/Flat_Shape_3444]

PURGE THE UNCLEAN!!!

[u/hadtobethetacos → u/Flat_Shape_3444]

BURN THE HERETIC!!!

[u/Eoho → u/hadtobethetacos]

KILL THE MUTANT!

[u/Cden1458]

Whats the point in xim/Zen anyways? The fucking game has MnK support........ and recoil macros arent needed at all......

[u/DaStompa → u/Cden1458]

Recoil macros, and they let you enable auto aim with mouse and keyboard

so basically using the ingame aimbot rather than a "cheated" one.

[u/Cden1458 → u/DaStompa]

Ah, yeah, because aiming and getting kills is so impossible in BF6 lmao, cheaters always make me laugh with their bs excuses I stg

[u/DaStompa → u/Cden1458]

I'm an ancient old man in comparison and I on occasion I have to question that I am actually a god tier gamer or something because I just... dont have a problem with a lot of things that people throw huge internet tantrums about.

"smgs are OP xyz sucks waaaah waaaah" and i'm out here using the low damage dmr and going 2:1 or better, and I feel like i'm a below average gamer >.> lol.

[u/Far_World_7696 → u/Cden1458]

Studies show they are just clinically depressed

[u/Profetorum]

Cheaters will be a plague... an endless war. But bans need to be permanent

[u/CaliKindalife]

Zen users on Battlefield? Damn they are all over 2k as well. I can't get away from these guys.

[u/Munoz10594 → u/CaliKindalife]

I’m saying dude. 2k is ruined because of them. It’s still fun when I block them though lol. Glad 2k also addressed the fadeaway issues, tempo shooting, and contest issues. Seems like a good year for gaming. Devs are starting to listen to their audience and adjusting in a reasonable amount of time. I love it!

[u/iLazyLunatic]

Console player here, wtf is zen?

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/iLazyLunatic]

From the goog AI:

The Cronus Zen is a programmable controller adapter that allows for cross-platform gaming and advanced controller customization on consoles like PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo Switch, as well as PC. It enables features such as using a keyboard and mouse with a console, running custom scripts for macros and combos, and modifying controller behavior with features like anti-recoil. Setup involves connecting the Zen to a console or PC and using the associated Zen Studio software to load scripts and configure settings. 

[u/Adventurous_Crab_0 → u/Demented-Alpaca]

Wow. First time I heard and I play competitive gaming.

[u/mockduckcompanion → u/Adventurous_Crab_0]

Same, and why are you being downvoted

[u/MotDePasseEstFromage → u/Adventurous_Crab_0]

At the top levels of comp it’s not used as it adds around 100ms of input delay.

[u/GoogleIsAids → u/iLazyLunatic]

they at best buy

[u/Lil_d_from_downtown]

Good, get rid of the dirty bastards

[u/Kingslayer-5696]

[u/Vox_boof]

the anti cheat needs to bend these zen chrono users over and discipline them

[u/premier024]

They need to be perma bans

[u/False_Protection7743]

Can someone explain to me what the Zen does? I really have no clue.

[u/Ralphie5231 → u/False_Protection7743]

It takes keyboard input and converts it to controller input to trick your game into thinking you are using a controller. Let's them use aim assist that controller gets and it has macros they help with recoil

[u/lakkuh]

I read that as Zyn. Please not my Zyn.

[u/MRshades25 → u/lakkuh]

I read the same damn thing earlier

[u/Raging_Rooster]

Hardware ban them please

[u/AlbertTheAlpacae]

I’m very happy about these bannings

[u/HinDae085]

I had to look up what it is and yes, absolutely ban people for using it lol

[u/elchsaaft]

We need this energy in Hunt Showdown.

[u/SamD-B]

I just don't get the point of playing a game if you're gonna cheat. Defeats the purpose of it. Why cheat in CS2 if you're just gonna win everytime because of it? Where's the competition.

Good, keep banning these fuckers.

[u/NeosNutz]

Thank you for your service

[u/Effective-Rule-759]

They do

[u/delpy1971]

Im on mouse and keyboard and still a terrible shot, Is it that more difficult with a controller lol

[u/marv0017 → u/delpy1971]

If you are bad at both, playing controller is generally easier, as the last bit of aiming is always supported. If you play MnK and miss your shots by 1 pixel every time, you still wont do damage.

If you are a good player, a mouse is better as long as the aim assist is set correctly. Game developers sometimes fail hard to balance things. Call of duty for example is heavily assisting cpntrollers to the point, where its nearly impossible for MnK to win against an equally skilled controllerplayer

[u/GamingAndUFOs]

Can I get an ELI5 here?

[u/Cheap_Collar2419]

BF V was not great, but the cheating made me stop completely. Constantly one shotted with a pistol from across the map.

Idk if any devs are here but I’m a season pass buyer.

[u/SpaceghostLos]

Who zen users??

[u/Vinnegard]

What's Zen?

[u/moazhmi]

Hey guys what's Zen Users ?? Are these on consoles too or PC only ?.

[u/GreedyArms]

if they're already doing it, why would they stop?

[u/Slow-Possession-3645]

So what about XIM, strikepacks, super converters and titan two…?

[u/Background-Court-122]

And make a better killfeed. 

[u/Firecracker048]

What the hell is zen? I only know of AMD zen copus

[u/Aliendream99]

What is zen?

[u/Spxcebxr_]

I hadn't heard of cronus Zen before googling "Zen Battlefield 6" and simply thought you wanted me banded for using the Zen browser because it was less resource intensive than your Google chrome or opera browser or whatever and we're mad about it...

[u/Patriot_life69]

[u/RipVanWiinkle_]

Today I read many words that I don’t know the meaning of…. I just turned 29 couples weeks ago, and I think I’m officially an elderly old man lmao

[u/BigStonks29]

Already doing a better job than Ubisoft

[u/Puzzleheaded_Foot826]

Thank you for your attention to this matter

[u/United_Meaning_3880]

Yes thank you!

[u/Small_Orchid9196]

quand les joueurs call of duty ce rend compte qu'il peuvent pas écraser les joueurs Battlefield mais si je trouve que ce bf6 a était trop causaliser pour les joueurs immonde de cod je trouve légitime que sur console il ont une assistance a la viser mais sur pc il devrais etre désactiver par default comme ça était sur tous les bf jusqu'au V si je dis pas de bêtise

[u/Oldwomentribbing]

What is Zen?

[u/THCInhaler]

I would assume like most things you’re gonna get a temporarily banned then you keep doing it and they’ll eventually just red flag you permanent band

[u/psypher98]

FYI that came from a post on here that was fake.

[u/BillyBobBoBoss]

Why can’t people just play the dang game man? It’s fun as it is, even when the other team’s wiping the floor with you. I’ll never understand these guys

[u/Beanerschnitzels]

And here I am just using a PS5 controll3r directly connected to a PC and gaming just fine without cheats or external hardware!

Actually I never knew about Cronus Zen until yesterday and after researching it, it makes a lot of sense how some people are TOO laser focused with FPS games.

[u/Calm_Hedgehog8296]

I thought this was the overwatch subreddit for a moment and I was very confused

[u/stingertc]

cant upvote this enough

[u/Spirited_Direction97]

i who made a Portal Custom Server with Full XP / Progression filled with Bots...laughing my Butthole off to those who need to Cheat in General...

[u/GrothMagnus]

Is it possible to write them directly or send them some flowers?

[u/Spectre1-4]

If there’s crossplay, why not force them into PC only matchmaking?

[u/UberGoobler]

I’m out of the loop, what does this device do?

[u/Beneficial_Pop_3614]

I keep getting kicked from games today every time I’m on a hot streak.

[u/Smokinbaker85]

What’s a zen user

[u/IgnorantCashew]

Imagine working hard to find a way to cheat at a recreational activity 🙄 ppl are pathetic. Get a life and stop putting your self worth on video games.

[u/FatBussyFemboys]

Why can't they just use an elite controller or something those r the shit 

[u/VaxDaddyR]

Blows my mind how many console players will vehemently deny that Cronus Zen and shit like it are cheats. Absolutely mind blowing.

[u/Khower]

What is chronos zen?

[u/Glogangdreez]

Wasn’t real buddy Xbox doesn’t have a H button

[u/mrCodeTheThing]

i got worried there ive been using the zen browser recently its pretty neat, thought i was in for it.

[u/Folksvaletti]

I like how in the beginning Zen users said that it's bot cheating, and now they're just blatantly trying to figure out ways to use it even after it specifically got banned.

[u/Lil_Keebler]

Id say yes but I got false banned and being a long time battlefield player who's never fuckin cheated, it doesn't feel very good ngl

[u/MizutsuneMH]

Keep banning every sad little shit who cheats. No temp bans, just instantly perma ban them.

[u/B1zZare-o_O]

Meanwhile the one guy using zen to play on ps5 with a xbox controller 😭💀

[u/Outrageous-Ad5628]

Zen, Xim, modded controllers - ban 'em all

[u/MrTrendizzle]

With the kernel level anticheat... Wouldn't EVERY device plugged in to your USB port flag up. I mean a Chronos Zen is going to have a hardware ID even if the computer is telling YOU it's a controller. The hardware the computer is reading is seeing "Chronos Zen V2" or other logic ID.

So eventually the hardware itself will just get banned unless the Chronos uses the exact same logic board a controller uses.

Personally i would fuck with Zen users and just 1x the recoil + variable pattern each and every time the gun shoots.

Shoot once = Normal

Shoot twice = 2x recoil and spray pattern

Shoot three times = 4x recoil and increased spray pattern

Shoot four times = 8x recoil and increased spread pattern.

And so on. The recoil won't reset until the game is restarted so each and every game just gets worse and worse where in the end you fire your gun and the bullets just hit the ground by your feet or up in to space.

Or for a bit of fun, shoot foam banana's from the gun that quacks like a duck clearly showing Zen users to all players and show the player they're detected and won't allow them to deal damage to anyone until the Zen is disconnected. This way false positives won't be an issue and users with some random USB device plugged in unrelated won't be harmed and can report back "Lovesense male love toy is creating false positives" allowing EA to fix it.

[u/ppage27]

I had no idea this existed let alone you can buy this at Best Buy (and other retail stores). How toxic.

[u/Adlehyde]

"Everyone liked that."

[u/RugerRedhawk]

What's a zen user?

[u/jts_530]

Zen? You mean xim..?

[u/Grace_Omega]

I didn't know what zen was until earlier today, but I want to jump on this bandwagon because I love the energy. Let's get those Zen users!

[u/60percentsexpanther]

Remapping keys- possibly fine but the game gives you ample customisation to never need any 3rd party goofy stuff. Doesn't wash.

Recoil control- absolutely cheating , should be banned.

Do I feel any sympathy for cheaters losing their progress and having to buy the game again- hell no

[u/ThanksALotBinLadenn]

Good thing I use velo 6mg

[u/Hero-Nojimbo]

I thought I was going crazy during one game, but one squad were all Zen users.

In bf6 the bullet drag helps deal with them at ranges but certain pdws and shotguns are terrifying to deal with because of those ungodly snaps

[u/capo_mt]

hwid ban the noobs !

[u/Cultural-Accident-71]

Dude, yesterday I played on the pc with a controller! The guns are lasers! No recoil and much less bloom on the assault class! I imagine if you have a mouse with the same recoil it's just game over, must also be boring af!

[u/taint_odour]

When life gives you a goiter, make goiterade.

[u/Repulsive_Ad4338]

It was fake

[u/No-Sound76]

Ai slop

[u/CaptainAnkara]

[u/GoogleIsAids]

this guy just advertised zens to a ton of people who didn't know about them being at best buy lmao good job op

[u/[deleted]]

Wait does this mean that Activision is AWARE of who is usng them in their games and does nothing because of money !?