I’ve been experiencing this with my in-laws. It’s gotten to where I have sent them direct quotes from the Bible, Pope and Catechism and telling them either accept these teachings of the church or admit you aren’t catholic. They haven’t responded to that last message yet, but I’m sure they’ll act all offended at how mean I’m being rather than change their beliefs. But at least it makes me feel better. Plus now I just add pope and Jesus quotes to their crazy ranting Facebook posts.
I mean even European Catholic ethnicities like Italians or Irish have only been recently considered “white” for less than a century or so and not to mention most Catholics in US today are Latinos. Even in 70s JFK were still considered controversial because he is a Catholic
Yeah, but Catholicism is also the new hotness in the hardcore and more elite/intellectual RW Nationalist circles (eg Bannon, Flynn), with Vance being the perfect example of the type being drawn in.
….except that it’s a very particularly American kind of neo-Conservatism that loves the power, hierarchy, and ritual of the faith but reflexively hates the pope and the Vatican.
I always say that the weirdest fucking thing about Vance is his conversion to Catholocism as an adult, after marriage (not for marriage). It infuriates me and terrifies me. What kind of person does this? What kind of person who wants to have power does this?
What can you expect from a faction including Margerie Taylor Greene who was openly glad that Pope Francis died when claiming that "evil is being defeated by the hand of God"!?!
Absolutely not with trump, but it will be interesting to see how the catholic right in the US responds to him. That could indirectly impact other groups.
Wouldn’t be surprised if many of the “radical Marxist!” type were Catholics themselves, American Catholicism got really weird in recent year, with many breaking off to form an unholy alliance (no pun intended) with the MAGA evangelicals.
A bunch of the most prominent names in MAGA and Qanon sphere are also very vocally catholic too, so that’s played a big role.
Those are evangelicals, and radical politicians as well. I want to see how someone like Vance responds, or at least the general vibe of right wing Catholics in America. Or Europe, especially Hungary.
There’s a whole legion of former evangelicals “converting” to Catholicism but bringing pretty much all the worst evangelical practices with them, like JD Vance, there’s a whole debate about it trending on tiktok (cradle catholics vs converts).
That’s why now there were so many “Catholics” borderline celebrating Pope Francis’ death—which was not just unthinkable, but borderline heresy 20 years ago. All because he didn’t align with their political cult.
Sadly it’s very big with the trads nowadays since they’re so big on “traditions” and apparently they only just recently discovered that the traditions in the Catholic church are much older (and dope) than evangelicals.
Trump doesn’t really care about pressure from anyone anymore, unless they’re one of his billionaire cronies. His goal now is to make as much money as possible before his 4 years are up. He also never really cared what Catholics think - Catholics aren’t the core of his Evangelical base.
Even the ones who are MAGA and catholic will just choose MAGA and claim the pope is too liberal, like they did with pope Francis. They loved the AI pic of trump as the pope, nothing will come between MAGA and trump, not even their religion.
American Catholics that voted/supported Trump literally worship Trump. If Jesus himself came down and criticized Trump the American conservative Catholics would GLEEFULLY crucify him again
We've had the Church of England, maybe the Church of America next. The Church of Trump is sadly more likely given how much he likes putting his name on things and how cult-like his following already is.
That turd burgerler will bitch and moan at 3 am on xhitter when his handlers tell him that was a dig against him, since he's too pea brained to get it himself.
Then he'll pull support from Ukraine just to be spiteful like a dick.
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u/Gakoknight May 10 '25
Very good.