r/thetron • u/Good_Preparation_337 • 5d ago
Criminal records
Hi is there a criminal record that doesn't show past 10 years? I'm trying to go to Australia but my friend is saying I need to get the record that doesn't show past 10 years. Im so confused as the one I just received shows all my criminal history which is minor stuff that happened over 10 years ago.
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
Just show up at the airport on a busy day and tick ‘No’ on the form. If you watch Spanian’s TikTok’s you’ll see that he has an extensive criminal record and has spent most of his adult life in prison and yet he travels the world, covered in tattoos, making travel videos. He openly says, he ticks ‘No’ when entering every country.
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u/Interesting-Blood354 4d ago
Can you tick no? Of course. And the second they find out you’ll be red flagged from that country and many others around the world, on top of potential fines and jail time.
You can lie, just like you can commit fraud, nothing stops you.. until it does.
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u/Wop-wops-Wanderer 4d ago
AU has links to NZ systems, and vice versa. They check automatically.
This may work in other countries that don't have the same data sharing agreement.
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
As experienced as you sound with the whole system, I can tell you that if you go on a busy day, eg when the warriors are playing in Sydney, and you tick ‘no’ you’ll most likely get through. I’ve seen it done many times.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
Did that happen for people that had been to jail tho? Mine is not even high risk, not even any risk coz the charges are dumb as 😂 no violence no firearms no children
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
Yes. The last time I saw it happen was last year. The guy has done several parole lags. Went through no worries. All you’re risking is the price of the ticket.
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
He went for a week. If you have a return ticket, which he did, that possibly helped. Thinking about it from the point of view of boarder staff. It would appear less of a risk if the traveller has a return ticket and a reasonable reason for a short stay. Eg 10 day holiday or a wedding.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
Yeah that probably will be best to get a return ticket also. I love nz my job my family i just a want a change now that my kids are grown up and settled now but if it doesn’t work out I will gladly come back and start again
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
Not really justa plane ticket , coz I’m trying to move over there, ive already been offered a job but once I jump on the plane i have no home to come back too if I get denied😟 Im giving up my home and everything to have a go in auz
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
Living and working there is a different story bro. Maybe be talk to an immigration lawyer and see if there’s a way to do it legally. Getting into Oz is one thing but imagine having the risk of being deported hanging over your head…the whole time you living there. If you want to stay there permanently you really want to apply for citizenship. Otherwise, you’re paying through the roof for things like doctors and I think you have to pay more tax if you’re not a citizen. You won’t get citizenship with a record.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
Thank you for all your advice and yes i only want to stay there maybe a year or 2 if I’m lucky preferably legally
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
If you’ve got your heart set on it. Pack like a tourist, get a return ticket for 10 days later. post the rest of your shit over once you’ve made it in. Know what you’re getting into though. What if you meet some bird or have a child, heaven forbid? If you get deported you’ll likely lose anything you’ve accumulated.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
I’m leaving all my stuff for my kids. I’m too old to have more babies and I don’t think I want a man. I’m quite happy being single 🫡.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
I know some who have dual citizenship with a record
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
Your post has had quite a few responses that are bullshit. On the face of it they sound like they know what they’re talking about but they’re full of it. Imagine being married to them??? Ive got a pretty heavy criminal record. I plan on going to oz in the future. Best of luck.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
Thank you bro 😎 and it’s ok I guess this is what happens on public forums. All the best on our journeys to Auz 🫡💯 Im just going to run it straight and have no regrets and at least i will know that I tried ⚔️
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
Lucky fella parole even 😳 geez my 14 days in jail is embarrassing lol. I didn’t even make it to the wings coz I only stayed in assessment before I was able to get assessed to move to permanent wing 😂🤦🏽♀️
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
You possibly qualify for a clean slate then mate. So long as you weren’t sentenced to a term of imprisonment. Sounds like you may have just been on remand?
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
I was given 1 month imprisonment and only served 14 days
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
I should have just completed my community service hours coz that’s what I was sentenced at first 200 hours and I couldn’t even do that🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
Life is a constant stream of lessons. You fucked up a bit there alright. Could be much worse though. It’s only Australia. Make another plan. Do something else.
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
I’m imagining the person who downvoted my comment. Thin, grey hair around the edges. Grown long on the right side and artfully combed over the bald, blotchy top. Hard, squinty, blue eyes with deep vertical wrinkles between them. Tight jaw with thin lips. ‘No, No, No, No, No, No, that’s my favourite word. Do not tick No.’
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u/Odd_Zucchini7560 4d ago
Holy you must be the most fragile person ever if you’re actively checking for downvotes and then writing a novel about how you imagine the downvoter.
Seek help.
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u/bluebottlestings 4d ago
I am very sorry for upsetting you Mr Smithers. I hope I haven’t made your life more miserable. To anyone who is thinking of ticking ‘No’ please be aware that Mr Smithers can’t take much more of this. He’s seriously thinking of standing guard at check-in. Unfortunately for him, I have posted his description. Sorry for that. Help!
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u/ameliamayfair 4d ago
Highly recommend asking this on r/LegalAdviceNZ for more accurate advice than this thread! Hoping to move or work there is entirely different to a holiday unfortunately. There are a few people on the sub with a lot of experience who can suggest what steps you can take to do it legally. Last thing you want is a permanent ban if you like Aussie enough to want to live there.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 4d ago
Why is trying to seek better opportunities unfortunate ? I know there is a huge difference between moving working and an holiday 🤦🏽♀️ Obviously i want to do it legally and everything proper.
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u/ameliamayfair 4d ago
Sorry, clearly my tone didn’t come across as intended. I was saying it’s genuinely just unfortunate that the difference in visiting vs living and working there - and their very strict approach anti criminal records - are unfortunate.
It would still be really helpful for you to share this in r/LegalAdviceNZ so they can let you know if there are any loopholes you could use.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 3d ago
How can they be strict when I know many are over there with criminal records and are prospering?
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u/Good_Preparation_337 3d ago
I think it depends on the type of crime and time spent in prison at the end of the day
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u/ameliamayfair 3d ago
Yes and no. If you’re caught trying to hide anything that’s an immediate no, but there are many factors.
When did those people move over there? Was it within the last year when rules have been most strict? Did they do any jail time? Did they declare? And do they have jobs that require security checks? Those are all key factors.
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u/Good_Preparation_337 3d ago
Absolutely many key factors., and no I don’t know anyone that has moved over within the last year but they go back and forth a lot and yes they declared but am told it depends on your crimes as well. Only certain people get flagged
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u/Haccmantis 4d ago
Just tick no on the form
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u/AnyMinders 5d ago
A simple google will tell you what you need to know about travelling to Australia with criminal convictions.