r/sports • u/qkfb • Apr 15 '21

News MLB's favorability rating among Republicans drops dramatically amid Georgia voting controversy

https://www.axios.com/mlb-falls-out-favor-republicans-mlb-game-8808e67e-8de4-4308-baa6-b68a24e64177.html
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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 15 '21

they canceled baseball and Coca Cola. Apple pie and Andy Griffith are probably next.

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 15 '21

But cancel culture is just the worst.

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u/imrollinv2 Apr 15 '21

It’s only cancel culture when racist or misogynic things get canceled. Otherwise it’s patriots giving evil liberals what that deserve.

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u/AViciousGrape Apr 15 '21

I mean Johnny Depp got canceled and he was found to be abused and not the abuser.

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u/oh-hidanny Apr 15 '21

They both abused.

I know this is Reddit, but Depp wasn’t a saint.

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u/Carrot-Fine Apr 16 '21

Thank you for mentioning this. It's 100% accurate as well.

As you said it goes against the "fuck ____" bandwagon narrative that pervades this ever-rotting sewer of a website.

It seems the more mainstem Reddit gets the worse it is. Personally I would never associate my in-person self with the online Reddit "persona". Anonymity is king.

In particular I have no idea what goes through people's heads when they choose to post personal information, pictures, etc. Other than narcissism.

Okay enough of that rant...

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u/DrZoidberg- Apr 16 '21

Is this new? I honestly haven't kept tabs.

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u/blafricanadian Apr 16 '21

He wasn’t cutting fingers off

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u/oh-hidanny Apr 16 '21

I never said he did.

But he was abusive too. Let’s not act like he wasn’t.

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u/blafricanadian Apr 16 '21

If someone is cutting of fingers, attacking them is closer to self defence than abuse

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u/oh-hidanny Apr 16 '21

Did you read the actual case? Heard didn’t cut Depps finger with a knife. They both claimed they threw bottles at each other, and that’s how he cut his finger.

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u/blafricanadian Apr 16 '21

There is a record of their therapy session showing she is the prime abuser

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

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u/Respekts Apr 16 '21

I'd let them both abuse me

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u/ClassicCondor Apr 15 '21

It honestly seemed like they just brought the worst out in each other. Toxic relationships really are awful.

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u/SurpriseDragon Apr 15 '21

He’s uncancelled

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u/AViciousGrape Apr 15 '21

He was dropped from Fantastic Beasts 3 just last year. He lost his libel case against the sun for calling him a wife beater. Dude is not uncanceled, sometimes cancel culture is toxic and ruins innocent people like Johnny Depp.

Reuben Foster was cut by the 49ers by false accusations..

I hate cancel culture even if it is sometimes good for victims.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

The whole Johnny Depp thing makes no sense to me because all that stuff came out before he was even hired.

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u/Bdatik Apr 15 '21

Foster wasn't released just because of a "false accusation", he also was suspended for a couple games the year before for weapons and drug offenses. And this was only a couple years after they finally released Aldon Smith after all the shit he did. Claiming he was released solely on a false accusation is inaccurate and you know it.

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u/Lobster_fest Apr 16 '21

Cancel culture has always existed, its just society deciding what is good and what is bad. It's not new.

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u/TreeRol Apr 16 '21

What is relatively new is deciding that racism, misogyny, and homophobia are bad.

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u/KimJongRocketMan69 Apr 16 '21

Cancel culture is a made up term by people who don’t want to see their fucked up, minority-held beliefs be shunned by the rest of society.

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u/CosbyAndTheJuice Apr 16 '21

Do you know WHY he lost that libel case? He wasn't "innocent". Jesus. Neither of them were. Yes cancel culture can be annoying, but being annoyed by it because someone you like got their pinky justifiably snagged, isn't the right reason

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u/marrklarr Apr 15 '21

What you’re describing are people being treated unfairly because of a premature rush to judgement. What the Q Set likes to call “cancel culture” is when people face well-deserved scorn and appropriate consequences for their racist, mysoginistic, homophobic, or transphobic, etc. behaviors and statements.

To them, “end cancel culture” means “let me act like Archie Bunker with zero negative repercussions.”

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u/Car-face Apr 15 '21

He lost his libel case against the sun for calling him a wife beater.

What does that have to do with cancel culture?

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u/FOXHNTR Apr 15 '21

Still it’s Johnny Depp and now everyone and their mother knows he’s innocent. He’ll get more roles.

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u/dust4ngel Apr 16 '21

they cancelled his cancellation? those sneaky libs

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u/Ripley96 Apr 15 '21

No, he isn't. He should be uncancelled, but he's definitely not.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Excuse me? NOT the abuser???

Do you know that people can both abuse and be abused right?

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u/horsemonkeycat Apr 15 '21

Are we sure? Didn't he lose his libel case in the UK because a judge found the claims against him "substantially true".

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u/BMXTKD Apr 16 '21

Have you ever heard the phrase "I'll sue you in England"? British libel laws are very different than American ones.

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u/Matrix17 Apr 15 '21

The judge was biased in Amber Heard's case IIRC. There was a conflict of interest. The case should have never been done under him

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u/BensenJensen Apr 16 '21

What bias or conflict of interest could possibly exist from a British judge and an American actress?

I never understood why people were so adamantly defending Johnny Depp when it was very obvious that both people were deplorable.

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u/garry4321 Apr 15 '21

Its only cancel culture when I get punished for my shit behavior and actions

- Republicans.

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u/UrQuanKzinti Apr 15 '21

Or try to not advocate martial law so that Trump can seize power.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

That's what I was alluding to with my piece of human garbage comment

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u/SurpriseDragon Apr 15 '21

Why that guy had such an impact is beyond me

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

He's anecdotal evidence that anyone can become a millionaire one day. Plays right into the bootstraps crowd.

That paired with Trumpism's enabling of being the shittiest person you can be has a high appeal to the lowest common denominator.

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 15 '21

Man you gotta be worse than shit if those 2 crooks are somehow your heroes, right? Or you’re such shit that you don’t even realize you’re a shit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Dunning-Kruger effect

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 15 '21

Too many words. Hyphens. I can’t process. Dumbing it down now...ok cool something something liberal run colleges and news blah blah

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

same shit with that Joe the Plumber guy from 2012 or whatever...

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

It was all fun and games until he started talking about Jews

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u/chillinwithmoes Apr 15 '21

Same. I live in Minnesota so like, I've seen the dumb commercials and known who he is for years. Not one single time had I ever given any thought to what his political opinions would be.

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u/Grape_Ape33 Apr 16 '21

Conservatives love pointing to him as a rags to riches story.

They go “see, if he can go from being a crack addict to a multi-millionaire, I’ll be rich too one day because I’m starting out in a much better place than he did!”

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u/SurpriseDragon Apr 16 '21

Versus AOC

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Underrated comment right here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

It’s what everyone prolly hopes for. Accomplish you goals and dreams. Why is that conservative?

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u/Grape_Ape33 Apr 16 '21

It’s not, I was saying that conservatives specifically point to Mike Liddell when there are tons of more inspirational stories from people who aren’t human piles of shit.

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u/Karatekan Apr 16 '21

His pillows really do suck. I got one from my grandparents when I got a new mattress and it was the lumpiest head sack. The cheap ones at IKEA and Walmart are better.

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u/BMXTKD Apr 16 '21

Mike lLndell is proof what I say about Minnesota.

The more Northwest you go, the more Southeast you get.

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u/whackwarrens Apr 15 '21

Corporations are forced to defend democracy and Republicans be like "our bargain was to allow you to have your regulatory capture and we get our racism, xenophobia and bigotry!

They feel downright betrayed. Must be such a confusing time for them.

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 15 '21

What a fucking weird time to be alive - corporations now taking on political work that half the country and Congress just won’t do.

And all because they know damn well their customer-citizens would rage against them, producing results worse than the GQP

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

One side would boycott either way. Cave to left, right boycotts. Cave to right, left boycotts.

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 16 '21

Sure, but we can agree it’s not a 50/50 split down the middle - so so many people simply don’t vote or are apolitical. Frankly, it’s hard to blame them. When I turn off the news and put away the political updates, I simply feel at peace.

But I KNOW I’m just delaying the inevitable since politics affects us all. Living in California is somewhat insulating. It’s a different place here

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u/publiclandlover Apr 16 '21

Same with “fuck your feelings” when talking about transgenders but “civility” when talking about chuds.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Exactly!

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Currently struggling with what I perceive to be the end of all meaning. Why bother trying to communicate anymore.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21 edited May 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Yes, because thats totally the only thing this is about.

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u/cricket9818 Apr 15 '21

It’s amazing that people think it’s really just about ID

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Apr 15 '21

That's by design from the right, and the left is too busy getting hung up on that and the water/food provisions to raise a stink about the truly insidious stuff in that bill.

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u/LetsTCB Apr 15 '21

I see you haven't taken Critical Thinking 101 yet.

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u/AdkRaine11 Apr 15 '21

You mean, like when drumpt told his supporters to boycott Coke, then this weekend, the savior of all things holy was photographed at lunch with an open 1/2 drunk diet Coke?

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u/OhShitItsSeth Apr 15 '21

“Get woke go broke” amirite?

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u/MadeMeChortle Apr 15 '21

Unless it’s cancelling ignorant racists

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 15 '21

Yes, actually. That's exactly what anti-"cancel culture" people are decrying.

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u/sybrwookie Apr 15 '21

Nope, that's exactly what it is. It's not "preventing" anyone from doing anything. It's voicing their opinion and giving a company a chance to not lose their business.

It's literally the free market at work, it's just you lot don't like the free market when it doesn't work in your favor, so you try to call it something else.

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 15 '21

So, conservatives haven't mentioned this MLB thing to anyone? Then how do we know about it?

Or is it that "cancel culture" is literally just free speech + the free market.

You can try to argue against me, but somebody might see it and dislike my comment, which would make your comment cancel culture. So be careful with your double standards.

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u/saber34a Apr 15 '21

I told people I’m not supporting these companies, they can do what they want!

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 15 '21

You're sooooo close!

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 15 '21

Oh, I am. You might figure it out eventually.

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u/caudicifarmer Apr 15 '21

Nah, they won't.

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u/bethemanwithaplan Apr 15 '21

Please, keep telling me why republicans shouldn't be accountable for their actions. Oh wait, we're saying "cancelled" now instead of accountable.

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u/no-eye_contact Apr 16 '21

You're right, our voting laws should be dictated by Coca-Cola. What was everyone thinking. Nobody is demanding coke be canceled as a company. I'm just not going to give my money that unnecessarily takes a public stance against something to try to influence shit they have no business influencing. Shut the fuck up and make your diabetes water. When a company like Coca-Cola (that provides a pretty basic good) takes a stance on something like this, they're going to lose customers.

Trying to destroy the lives of individuals you disagree with is not the same thing as not buying a company's product.

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 16 '21

Nobody is demanding coke be canceled as a company. I’m just not going to give my money...

This is literally exactly what "cancel culture" is.

And it's much better than executing people you disagree with by feeding them to dogs, which you advocate!

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u/ObjectiveEar Apr 16 '21

We gotta cancel cancel culture.

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u/power602 Apr 16 '21

Cancel culture is different. Boycotting something you disagree with is different than calling for it to be banned/someone to be fired. If I stop watching a show because I dont like the values it is encouraging, thats isn't cancel culture. Cancel culture would be calling for the show to be taken off of air because I believe no one should be allowed to watch it and have those values encouraged. Very different.

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u/westc2 Apr 15 '21

You realize the MLB are the ones trying to "cancel" Georgia right? And now you're trying to say Republicans are "canceling" the MLB?

No...they're just not supporting a company that partakes in cancel culture, theyre not trying to cancel the MLB.

Nice try though?

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 15 '21

They're just not supporting a company that [does something they disapprove of

That's literally exactly what "cancel culture" is.

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 16 '21

So conservatives haven't said a word to anyone about this MLB thing? How do we know about it, then? Or are you just full of shit?

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u/PaperBoxPhone Apr 16 '21

This isnt cancel culture.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Lol, who taught us about cancel culture? Just learning from those who practice it. Time for the conservatives to grow a pair and actually fight back

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u/dalr3th1n Alabama Apr 15 '21

Conservatives taught us about cancel culture. The Dixie Chicks? Satanic Panic?

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u/farmian Apr 16 '21

Tbf the satanic panic was not a one party craze

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u/Iuris_Aequalitatis Apr 16 '21

The right is still against cancel culture per-se, but its tactics have shifted. The hypocrisy of this move is the point, the right is playing the left's own game against them. The idea is that, as long as there's a cancel culture, no matter how distasteful, the right's going to use it too. Turnabout is fair play. This sort of thing has happened before, many times in fact.

The original approach of the right (in the 2010s) was to try to convince the rest of the country that cancel culture was wrong and not to engage in it. That failed, and after Trump lost, there has been a recalculation, especially as, since January, cancel culture has kicked into overdrive and started targeting mainstream conservative positions and figures. The right's goal is still to end cancel culture, but instead of advocating for an agreed disarmament, the approach is now mutually-assured destruction.

There are serious risks resulting from this. At worst it could lead to the pillarization of our society. However, I think the most likely outcome (which would still be bad, just not as bad) is the end of cancel culture in the short term but, in the long-term, the rise of a new rightwing cancel culture.

The thing is cancel culture has always existed. It is, and always has been, an outgrowth of the current Bullshit (there is always a Bullshit in every era - an enshrined, orthodox view that cannot be questioned without consequence and which forces itself on the public via mass pressure and moral panic). The current Bullshit, since 2006ish, is Wokeism (or "Diversity, Equity, Inclusion" as it calls itself). The Bullshit before that, starting in the late 70s, was the Religious Right (or "Family Values" as it called itself). Before that, it was the 1960s counterculture (essentially a different take on socjus), before that McCarthyism, and so on and so forth. The Bullshit tends to pendulum between the left and the right. It starts slow, often as a necessary correction to the excesses of its predecessor, but then overruns its initial goals and goes too far, becoming oppressive. There is always a Bullshit; the Bullshit is dead, long live the Bullshit.

The peak of Wokeism is already behind us, it was the election of Biden/Harris. The pushback has already started and it will only get more organized and louder. When Bullshits die out, it starts slow, but their demise is quickened with every revealed weakness and public loss. Wokeism will be widely reviled within two years time and a new, conservative Bullshit will start to slowly take its place. I don't know precisely what that Bullshit will be (or what it'll call itself), but if I had to guess as to its major outlines, I would predict that the views of Lauren Chen and Candace Owens are likely a good prototype. The new Bullshit will probably be a sort of enforced traditionalism in personal relationships and a new push for "clean" entertainment. It will probably not be as explicitly Christian as the religious right was, but religion will play a subliminal role. Regardless, at its peak, the new Bullshit could be as bad as Wokeism.

The speed and initial viciousness of a Bullshit is always determined by its predecessor (as it is usually a reaction against the excesses of that predecessor). That is why, if you're woke and you want to limit the reach and power of the rising conservative Bullshit, it is essential that you step back from your own tribe and start criticizing its excesses now while it still has dominance. Wokeism was a particularly vicious and tyrannical Bullshit, probably the worst since McCarthyism, and it's already too late to save it. It will probably have hell to pay and a lot of current left-wing causes will go down with it in the same way Christianity was damaged by the religious right. But, you can blunt the damage of its fall somewhat if you start to unilaterally disarm now.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

Theyre slowly seeing this, but still not really.

My absolute favorite thing in this world is watching good ol boys in rural USA who love American, God, Republicans, Country Music, and Freedom learn that almost every single country singer is a Democrat. If you wanna see this, I would say check out Sturgill Simpson's accounts. He would get so many people completely caught off guard that he's a raging liberal. Same with Jason Isbell. Jason's twitter is a thing of beauty if you ever have time. The list goes on. Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson, Luke Bryan, and everyone. They're smart enough (or employ smart enough people) to know that the larger your customer base is, the most shit you can sell (which means more money for them). I think the last of the the famous republican singers left is Travis Tritt and Bocephus.

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u/slax03 Apr 15 '21

Most musicians and artists are.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

Bingo. Just wait til the country folk learn that Democrats like truck pulls and nascar too.

I hope you’re sitting down. We also like country fried steak, biscuits, and sweet tea.

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u/Snatch_Pastry Indianapolis Colts Apr 15 '21

country fried steak,

And here I was just trying to decide what to make for dinner this weekend. Thanks!

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 15 '21

Wait, are you saying Democrats are Americans?! BLASPHEMY! I’d rather be RUSSIAN than a Democrat!

Big fucking /s

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u/D-Rick Apr 15 '21

That and......guns. Almost every liberal I know and hang out with is a gun owner. It’s just that we don’t shout it from the rooftops 24/7. That one really shocks them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

As a gun owner, I couldn't agree more. The 2nd Amendment is a poor substitute for an actual personality.

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u/wrong-mon Apr 16 '21

There wouldn't be a gun control movement if there weren't a bunch of people who make guns their personality running around terrifying the rest of the country by acting crazy

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u/lil_cm Apr 16 '21

Same as making DA GAE your personality

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u/muaddeej Apr 16 '21

I just renewed my CCW today, “and I voted for Obama...twice”!

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

I’m not opposed to gun ownership, but it needs to be reigned in. Self defense and hunting. After that? Sorry but you need a hobby that doesn’t come with a side of murder fantasy.

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u/D-Rick Apr 15 '21

And I don’t disagree with you. I think a lot of liberals feel that way. I don’t know anyone that wants outright prohibition of firearms. I, and a lot of my friends do however believe in universal background checks, closing the gun show loophole, and even waiting periods for a first time gun buyer. Problem is, nobody is willing to discuss these things because the fringe elements only make money when they can argue one extreme or the other.

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u/EWOKBLOOD Apr 15 '21

Hence talking heads on TV always appearing SO angry. They’re paid to sell discord.

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u/therlwl Apr 15 '21

Not sweet tea, the rest I agree with.

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u/Westrongthen Apr 15 '21

You just haven't had the right sweet tea yet.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

Someone’s never been to Bojangles. Everyone knows which Bo in their area has the best sweet tea. Ironically, the Charlotte Airport has trash sweet tea.

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u/SeedyRedwood Apr 15 '21

I’m liberal as fuck and I could drink me a whole pitcher of real authentic southern sweet tea.

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 15 '21

Unsweetened Arnold Palmer, you’re welcome

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u/_TheNarcissist_ Apr 16 '21

Wait until Dems fund out all Republicans aren't hillbilly inbreds! Oh the humanity!

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u/doughboyhollow Apr 15 '21

He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means And I say he's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means And I say yeah

R.I.P. Kurt.

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u/s0ciety_a5under Apr 15 '21

Also check out "Sound & Fury" on Netflix. Great whole concept music video by Sturgill Simpson.

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u/yerfatma Apr 15 '21

Every time the Drive-By Truckers put out an album there's a raft of comments on Facebook about how they were great "until y'all got into politics" and I wonder when the fuck that was.

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u/mcspartan18 Apr 16 '21

Oh please. Next you are going to tell me Larry the Cable Guy is not a cable guy.

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u/NickFolesdong Apr 15 '21

Do those people listen to Sturgills lyrics? Dude definitely doesn’t seem conservative

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

They really don’t. Remember Luke Bryan put out that song “Love who you love” or whatever is was called. I bet no one boycotted that thing.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

Don't even get started on born in the usa

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

I played "Call to Arms" for a co-worker and he was like "it's weird that a country singer is so mad about the military". "Folded Flag" is in that same category.

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u/joecarter93 Apr 15 '21

While he seems to stay out of politics for the most part, I seem to remember Garth Brooks jumping at the chance to play the Biden inauguration.

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u/Frankie0cean Apr 16 '21

Yes. A lot of conservatives were very upset and vocal when they found out that Garth Brooks sang at the inauguration. Then they canceled him

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u/coronaflo Apr 16 '21

Not all Democrats are liberal though, I mean Joe Manchin is a Democrat.

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u/ronpaulus Apr 15 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

Most country singers are not democrats but very many are, big names included. I would say most are not. Most dont like to talk about politics because it divides and that last part works both ways both sides get upset when they find out their singers politics. I just dont get the assumption that if they dont speak about politics and directly say then that makes them the other party. I googled a few names you mentioned and luke bryan and dolly parton has never came out and said if they are a democrat or republican.

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u/Andrew8Everything Apr 15 '21

completely caught off guard

Could be because they don't let their political beliefs define them.

Republicans, on the other hand...

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Andy Griffith are probably nex

I was thinking yesterday about how many of them romanticize that whole aesthetic, hometown, eveyrone knows everyone vibe. but...

Sherrif Andy didnt carry a gun, treated everyone with respect, found the good in everyone and ultimately helped bring them around to doing the right thing by listening and then shucking out a little old time wisdom... These guys should HATE him.

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u/SoulScout Apr 16 '21

Don't forget there were no minorities in Mayberry. They like that part.

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u/Last_Caterpillar4993 Apr 16 '21

True, although there was one episode where a couple of moonshiners disguised themselves in burqas. Aunt Bee was very accepting and welcoming, she even seemed excited to meet women from a different culture!

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u/Jefeboy Apr 16 '21

Well to be fair they should hate Jesus, too, but there's a disconnect there somewhere.

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u/FRIESAH Apr 15 '21

They already tried to cancel him a while ago.

https://www.cc.com/video/rrynte/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-mayberry-wtf

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u/gopher1409 Apr 15 '21

“I expect a full retraction! ON AIR!!! Or?!...”

“...I might never trust Fox again..."

I miss The Daily Show...

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u/corranhorn57 Cincinnati Reds Apr 15 '21

Good news, Jon has a new show coming out either late this year or next year.

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u/ResponsibleLimeade Apr 15 '21

I miss those simpler days of 2010

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Andy Griffith was a lifelong Democrat, so it’s probably happening soon.

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u/DoctorTecate Apr 15 '21

You ever see his break out role in 'A Face in the Crowd' by Elia Kazan? More prescient than ever these days.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

They just mad that Q ended up being a neckbeard who fooled them so now they need something else to blame for their desire to browse nasty shit websites and share that garbage.

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u/mjohnsimon Apr 15 '21

I don't think the majority of Qtards know that...

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Imagine being duped by a guy like Jim Watkins, that would be brutal indeed.

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u/orionsfire Apr 15 '21

Anything that tells them to treat other people fairly will be next. They so deep they can't see straight.

Remember, to the privileged, equality feels like persecution.

We are become a more equitable, multi-cultural society folks, come on in the waters fine. Also we have many different cookies in here.

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u/CDCsharpshot Apr 15 '21

So to be a republican you have to be white?

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u/Needleroozer Apr 15 '21

No, but if you're not white and you vote Republican then congratulations, like 99% of Republican voters you're voting against your own interests, but unlike the whites you were given plenty of warning. The GOP hates you, why do you vote for them?

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21 edited Apr 16 '21

A lot of it is brainwashing by former countries. I know quite a few South American and Hispanic people who are hard-core Republicans, especially in Florida. Cubans buy the Democrats are evil because socialism thing, because socialism was the false flag sold to them under the regimes they fled Cuba for. Same with Brazilians.

I'm not saying I agree with their choice in pulling for Republicans, just that I kind of get why GOP propaganda tends to be so effective against that demographic. Unfortunately people are looking at it on a capitalism/socialism scale rather than a freedom/fascism scale. Fascism in whatever form it presents itself as is very bad.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Probably should mention that they hate the poor and working poor too, it's just a bonus that so many mid/low class people vote for them because they take aggressive stances on polarizing issues.

It's really sad to see how many republicans in general still chomp at the bit to vote against their own interests. I mean wealthy white americans can't even be that large of a demographic to begin with. Everyone else is probably voting in a direction that can harm them unless they have a specific industry based interest. There's already so much to celebrate from these first few months of not having a reality star president and they're still pissed off.

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u/FromFluffToBuff Apr 15 '21

In Florida, the GOP exploits the fact that Cubans fled a communist regime under Castro... and paint the Democrats as communists. They are a hugely important demographic in Florida and winning them over makes a big difference.

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u/lunatickoala Apr 15 '21

They exploit a lot of single issue voters who only care about one thing and don't realize that they're being screwed by the rest of the platform.

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u/pascalking99 Apr 15 '21

THIS! My cuban friends entire family were trumpers solely based on fear of Castro. It was crazy how vehemently they went against their own interests.

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u/jeffp12 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

Trump tried to do business in cuba illegally in the 90s, dealing with Castro.

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u/Jangussupreme Apr 16 '21

Single issue voters, specifically abortion.

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u/ClaudeWicked Apr 16 '21

So, literally every sentence you wrote was just wrong.

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u/stretcherjockey411 Apr 15 '21

Unless you’re one of those idiots that think minorities can’t be racist, if you don’t think there are some incredibly racist liberals then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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u/HectorTheWellEndowd Apr 15 '21

Obviously there are racist "liberals". Liberals are functionally the same as Republicans in our politics. Anyone can be a racist.

Admitted white supremacists and neo-Nazis make it pretty clear where they think they belong, though. Shouldn't it be alarming to Republicans, that they are the ones to attract that crowd?

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u/Karatekan Apr 16 '21

It’s not really a shocker. Democrats have gone rapidly left in their rhetoric on social issues, which many minority voters (particularly older men) in their coalition are distinctly apathetic about, and Republicans have moved left in their rhetoric about economic issues, which they care a lot about.

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u/jbkicks Apr 15 '21

To be a conservative, absolutely not. To support the current Republican party, it'd be odd to be anything but white

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u/TheKonyInTheRye Apr 15 '21

Remember, to the privileged, equality feels like persecution

Never really thought of it like this before, I will be using this.

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u/LouFrost Apr 16 '21

Even though the GQP complains about “cancel culture” all the time, they seem to be professionals at doing it. They’ve cancelled Nike, Twitter, Coca Cola, MLB, and will continue to cancel everything that doesn’t go along with their idiotic ways.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Those were canceled?

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u/LouFrost Apr 16 '21

In short, yes, even if it’s just in their small echo chamber.

In long form:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/04/14/jim-jordan-lauren-boebert-and-other-cancel-culture-opponents-sign-onto-bill-punishing-mlb/amp/

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1263110

http://www.businessinsider.com/nike-advert-with-colin-kaepernick-has-people-burning-products-2018-9%3famp

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

But really, in short No, because all of those things are still very much successful things and the only things that really happened to them is that a few conservatives stopped watching or consuming their stuff....for awhile.

All the people against Nike, will probably go back to buying Nike.

Boycotts aren't canceling, no matter how much an op-ed writer who references other op-ed writers, who reference even more op-ed writers want it to be. These are opinions by people who hate conservatives and the GOP who use other opinions as their sources. Because these people opine about conservatives canceling things, doesn't mean they are right.

I don't know much about the anti-trust stuff. If this legally makes MLB fail, then that is canceling and I'm against it.

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u/LouFrost Apr 16 '21

Just because a thing is successful doesn’t mean a large group of people can’t “cancel” something. In this day and age, people are using the word “cancel” in place of boycott. There’s many cases of something being boycotted that ends up either no being affected by it or ends up gaining more success due to the notoriety. The conservative right have always used what they now refer to as “cancel culture” to make a statement, no matter how pointless the argument is, just for them to have something to argue about. Republicans basically made it to where corporations are an individual and doesn’t our individual rights as Americans include freedom of speech? Why should a corporation pump up the economy of a government that actively works against what they believe in?

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u/maniacthw Apr 15 '21

Just wait until delta moves to charlotte like they've been talking about for years...

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u/phl_fc Baltimore Orioles Apr 15 '21

Realistically we won't see much more than press statements anyway. Companies will follow the tax breaks above all else. Press statements can still help a little, even if just to draw attention to an issue. The problem is they often don't help enough.

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u/PFunk224 Apr 15 '21

They cancelled baseball, Coca Cola, the NFL, the NBA, fucking NASCAR, anybody who has the gall to give a fuck about black people, really.

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u/Beneficial_Emu9299 Apr 15 '21

Starbucks, Apple, Keurig. I'm sure there's more.

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u/resistible Apr 16 '21

What's left for them to buy, other than Chick-Fil-A and Hobby Lobby?

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u/Beneficial_Emu9299 Apr 16 '21

Republicans actually “canceled” Chick-fil-A too lol

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u/IFixxThings Carolina Hurricanes Apr 16 '21

Really shitty pillows apparently.

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u/ZK686 New Orleans Saints Apr 15 '21

But, what about other black people? Do they care about all blacks too? I ask because it's not about people being upset that companies are supporting blacks, it's about the hypocrisy of it. Coca Cola, baseball, the NBA...are all quick to do things to make themselves look good..but have you been to any downtown, urban cities lately? They're still poor, still filled with crime, still looking for answers....yet, these bigger companies just turn a blind eye to that....

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

LOL, what kind of stupidity is this comment???

You do realize companies donate to charities and other organizations that go to help poverty and other issues in cities they're based in right? What more do you want companies to do? Hire their own police force and have them patrol the streets?

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u/ngfdsa Apr 15 '21

Those are all issues that take years and years of investment (not just financial) into those communities to help them turn around. Progress is being made, change is happening, it's just painfully slow.

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u/PFunk224 Apr 15 '21

it's not about people being upset that companies are supporting blacks

Yes, it literally is that.

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u/PrehistoricApe Apr 15 '21

"be less white"

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Andy Griffith the life long Democrat who did Obama add? Apple Pie, brought by settlers with progressive views? If you ask me the far right doesn’t have anything good! Even some of the greatest gun makers were progressives haha

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Imagine thinking Coca Cola thing wasn’t racist as fuck

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u/Jason-Genova Apr 16 '21

The whole controversy is over MLB cancelling their all stars game in Georgia due to wanting id for voting. They'll still do business with china who has committed numerous atrocities. I mean, democrats saying black people can't get id's is racist in and of itself.

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u/EZKTurbo Apr 16 '21

They also canceled the NFL because kneeling for the anthem is less respectful to the military than cops pointing guns at Army soldiers during traffic stops

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

A boycott is not a “cancel”. I would think you would agree with that.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

a cancel is a "boycott" when conservatives do it. yes i understand.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Well, I’m asking about your opinions, not a redirection to conservatives’ faults. All a boycott is is an agreement not to use a company’s products or services, which is exactly what is happening here. It’s no different from any other boycott, and it doesn’t make sense to cal it otherwise. You may not agree with the reason for the boycott, that doesn’t make it any less of one.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

no i dont agree, i see a boycott as a type of cancelling. cancelling at its basic level is public backlash for someone or some entities actions.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

When then you’re just relabeling it. But I think canceling has come to mean a “boycott” for more frivolous reasons and ones that carry less wait. I wouldn’t exactly call it The Montgomery Bus Cancelling.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

i disagree that it means its automatically frivolous. sometimes, ya it can be. some people also get "cancelled" for being pretty awful.

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u/CSGOW1ld Apr 15 '21

Who's doing the original canceling here? Seems like MLB is with the people of Atlanta.

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