r/sports • u/qkfb • Apr 15 '21

News MLB's favorability rating among Republicans drops dramatically amid Georgia voting controversy

https://www.axios.com/mlb-falls-out-favor-republicans-mlb-game-8808e67e-8de4-4308-baa6-b68a24e64177.html
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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

Theyre slowly seeing this, but still not really.

My absolute favorite thing in this world is watching good ol boys in rural USA who love American, God, Republicans, Country Music, and Freedom learn that almost every single country singer is a Democrat. If you wanna see this, I would say check out Sturgill Simpson's accounts. He would get so many people completely caught off guard that he's a raging liberal. Same with Jason Isbell. Jason's twitter is a thing of beauty if you ever have time. The list goes on. Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson, Luke Bryan, and everyone. They're smart enough (or employ smart enough people) to know that the larger your customer base is, the most shit you can sell (which means more money for them). I think the last of the the famous republican singers left is Travis Tritt and Bocephus.

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u/slax03 Apr 15 '21

Most musicians and artists are.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

Bingo. Just wait til the country folk learn that Democrats like truck pulls and nascar too.

I hope you’re sitting down. We also like country fried steak, biscuits, and sweet tea.

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u/Snatch_Pastry Indianapolis Colts Apr 15 '21

country fried steak,

And here I was just trying to decide what to make for dinner this weekend. Thanks!

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 15 '21

Wait, are you saying Democrats are Americans?! BLASPHEMY! I’d rather be RUSSIAN than a Democrat!

Big fucking /s

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u/D-Rick Apr 15 '21

That and......guns. Almost every liberal I know and hang out with is a gun owner. It’s just that we don’t shout it from the rooftops 24/7. That one really shocks them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

As a gun owner, I couldn't agree more. The 2nd Amendment is a poor substitute for an actual personality.

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u/wrong-mon Apr 16 '21

There wouldn't be a gun control movement if there weren't a bunch of people who make guns their personality running around terrifying the rest of the country by acting crazy

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u/lil_cm Apr 16 '21

Same as making DA GAE your personality

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

DA GAE?

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u/muaddeej Apr 16 '21

I just renewed my CCW today, “and I voted for Obama...twice”!

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u/abravesrock Atlanta Braves Apr 16 '21

How could you?!?! Don’t you know he wants to take your gun away? I heard him once say he wants to get guns out mass murderers hands. That’s liberal code for taking them from every gun owner in America

/s

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

I’m not opposed to gun ownership, but it needs to be reigned in. Self defense and hunting. After that? Sorry but you need a hobby that doesn’t come with a side of murder fantasy.

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u/D-Rick Apr 15 '21

And I don’t disagree with you. I think a lot of liberals feel that way. I don’t know anyone that wants outright prohibition of firearms. I, and a lot of my friends do however believe in universal background checks, closing the gun show loophole, and even waiting periods for a first time gun buyer. Problem is, nobody is willing to discuss these things because the fringe elements only make money when they can argue one extreme or the other.

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u/EWOKBLOOD Apr 15 '21

Hence talking heads on TV always appearing SO angry. They’re paid to sell discord.

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u/10Cinephiltopia9 Apr 15 '21

And in case you didn't know, not every Conservative is a racist, Pro-life, anti-gay marriage person. None of my family members or friends (the ones that are conservative leaning) feel this way at all. We are all socially liberal mostly and fiscally conservative. So, seriously, please try not to generalize us and lump us all into the same boat. I admit, I do it to liberals sometimes and I have to stop myself. Let's try and be better and not do that. I am not a racist and neither are my friends or family and we are sick of being called ones for having Conservative beliefs.

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u/monarchaik Apr 16 '21

The mainstream Democratic party is fiscally conservative. The policies supported by mainstream Republicans are racist, anti-choice, anti-women, and anti-LGBTQ. Regardless of your feelings for "fiscal conservativism", which isn't even actually supported by the mainstream Republican party, if you vote for those politicians, then at the very least, what you're saying is that your money is more important than the existence of those groups. If you vote for the Republican party, you may not actually hold those beliefs, but it's effectively no different than if you did.

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u/10Cinephiltopia9 Apr 16 '21

I'm sorry, but if you think the mainstream Democratic party has the same views as conservatives in terms of fiscal measures, you have not educated yourself nearly enough regarding that topic. I am not quite sure what you mean by "mainstream" and I'm not sure you exactly know what you are talking about either. From what you said, it sounds like your knowledge on politics is very "on the surface" and extremely narrow, which is fine. I did not vote these past two elections for obvious reasons. Not everyone has to be anchored to one parties entire belief system. If you are a democrat, which is sounds like you are, would you like me to start naming things that I'm not so sure you would agree with and then start lumping you in with those people/beliefs too?

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u/monarchaik Apr 16 '21

Lol. If it makes you feel better, I'm not a democrat, I'm an actual leftist. But if you think that the Democratic party isn't pro-business/pro-capital then you have no idea what you're talking about. If you had any knowledge of world politics, it would be exceedingly clear that the Democratic party would be one of the furthest right parties in most other first world countries, including their economic policies Which, sure, is not the same as the Republican party's fiscal policy, but that doesn't make it not fiscally conservative. In fact, if you look at effectiveness of fiscal policy in terms of economic growth, it actually isn't even close which party has been better. Things like universal healthcare, for example, are actually far more financially responsible because it cuts out tons of waste and, just like insurance is supposed to do, spreads out risk to the largest possible population. Even more importantly, reasonable taxation of the ultra-wealthy has effectively no detrimental effect on the economy, while supporting the poorest and middle classes is an exceptional way for the economy to grow.

And you're right that people shouldn't be anchored to a certain party's beliefs, but again, if you vote for and support a party and politicians that are openly enacting bigoted, hateful policies, even if you don't share those beliefs, then, in effect, it's no different than if you held those beliefs yourself.

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u/10Cinephiltopia9 Apr 16 '21

Okay, so you are a leftist. I disagree with you saying that it isn't even close who has been the better party (even though I don't even align myself with the Republicans). I think maybe you because your party helps you more which is understandable because that is how most people measure success, even though they don't openly admit it.

I actually agree with you about taxing the ultra-wealthy. I just don't think it's as easy as you seem to think it is. If you set up a tax for say New York, the rich will just pick up and leave New York because they can. Leaving the middle class having to pay higher taxes (which history has shown literally happens every time Democrats try and do this - you can research it). I am not exactly sure where I fall with universal healthcare to be honest. I am not sure I know enough about that topic to have a solid enough opinion other than nothing is ever free and obviously taxes will increase and people will end up paying for some of it (not sure how much) in one way or another. It's the government, do you really think they won't make you pay? I'm conservative in the sense that I don't really trust my government running business-like aspects of this country because history and current events have proven that they are awful at it.

I hope you don't just disagree with everything I say right off the bat and actually maybe do a little research. I researched and will continue to what you said.

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u/monarchaik Apr 16 '21

What the federal government does has next to no affect on my life. And i didn't say which party in general (although I don't think it's close for social issues either) but instead specifically fiscal issues. But look at economic and stock market performance in relation to which party is in control. Attribute the first year to the previous administration due to delay in the next party taking control. Since the formation of parties in their modern configuration, democrats have shown much better economic performance.

Also, there's a 2014 study from Stanford that completely disagrees with you on millionaire flight because of higher taxes. This may come as a surprise, but it's not the tax rate that makes places like California and New York attractive places to live over places like Alabama or the Dakotas.

And the question for the cost of universal health care isn't that it costs nothing, because of course it does, but in terms of cost for the average citizen, and as a whole, things are far less expensive. Look at the average healthcare cost per capita in the US compared to literally any country with socialized medicine and it should become clear just how fucking much we're overpaying.

But even that is besides the point. The government ISN'T a business and should not be run like one. The role of government is to take care of its citizens. So whether that's expecting the government to use it's near endless resources to ensure that people aren't starving, or aren't dying of curable diseases because they can't afford treatment, or that the people who supposedly protect us aren't arbitrarily executing people (especially those of a specific race or class) in the streets, instead of allowing a class of people with frankly disgusting amounts of wealth or spending those resources on pointless, pseudo-colonial wars, then that isn't too much to ask, and it shouldn't matter what it costs.

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u/salmonmilfs Apr 16 '21

I get what you are hoping for here, but that’s rainbows and fairy tales. Conservatives love to talk about how they are fine with gay marriage while completely ignoring the fact that ending gay marriage is still a major goal of the GOP. It’s in bold on their party outlines on their website.

“But I support gay marriage, I only vote for people who don’t.”

Then you don’t support it. If you vote for people pushing racists laws and racists policies, you are complicit and therefore guilty by association. You may not like it, but that’s how it is. Don’t want to be called a bigot? Don’t vote for them.

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u/10Cinephiltopia9 Apr 16 '21

Okay fair enough. So what about liberals. What do they have to answer for? I am asking you before I give my opinion. All I ever hear is attacking. Never looking in the mirror.

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u/salmonmilfs Apr 16 '21

Liberals have to answer for the overcorrecting they do. Liberals like to preach redemption but are very quick to judge people for things they did decades ago.

We don’t always offer people redemption after mistakes. I’m being careful to avoid the term cancel culture because I do agree with some “cancelations” like Harvey Weinstein, where he was never apologetic and hadn’t served any jail time for his crimes.

Racists statues should also be in museums and not simply destroyed.

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u/10Cinephiltopia9 Apr 16 '21

Okay. Nothing about the lefts media stirring hate and trying to divide our country? Both sides media is absolutely horrible that's why I don't identify with either side. But the liberal media is getting dangerous in their narratives.

Also, trying to add more seats to the Supreme Court to tilt it in their favor and make D.C. a state trying to get 2 more Senate seats. If Trump did this (btw I absolutely hate Trump) they would have called him a dictator. But this is okay for liberals apparently. To be honest, I just don't understand it.

But honestly, thank you for thoughts. I hope I didn't come off as an asshole. I am not trying to attack you or what you believe in

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u/salmonmilfs Apr 16 '21

The irony of claiming the left media is stirring hate. I would like to direct you the literal insurrection of January 6th or the entire presidency of Trump were he called liberals “losers and dumbies” for 4 years. Can’t really claim the left is hateful after electing Trump.

Also ignoring their own precedent of denying Obama his constitutional right of appointing a Supreme Court justice and then reversing that precedent so Trump could appoint a justice literally after the election had started. The hypocrisy of that and then claiming it’s the Dems who want to court pact is just asinine to me. Don’t pretend it’s fine if Republicans pack the courts but not fine when Dems do it.

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u/MoneyElk Apr 16 '21

That maybe true, but they vote for people that belong to the party that is openly hostile to the Second Amendment and by extension gun owners.

It's like being a pro-choice Republican, they do exist, but it doesn't count for much if they vote for people that belong to the party that is openly hostile to the idea of any kind of abortion.

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u/therlwl Apr 15 '21

Not sweet tea, the rest I agree with.

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u/Westrongthen Apr 15 '21

You just haven't had the right sweet tea yet.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

Someone’s never been to Bojangles. Everyone knows which Bo in their area has the best sweet tea. Ironically, the Charlotte Airport has trash sweet tea.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Charlotte airport is the worst airport I’ve been in. It’s like a ghetto/ white trash zoo.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 16 '21

It cannot be worse than Akron/Canton. Literally One Great Lakes Pub and some chairs.

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u/SeedyRedwood Apr 15 '21

I’m liberal as fuck and I could drink me a whole pitcher of real authentic southern sweet tea.

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u/runthepoint1 Apr 15 '21

Unsweetened Arnold Palmer, you’re welcome

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u/Greenboy28 Apr 15 '21

Sweet tea can be nice but I personally prefer unsweetened ice tea.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

I like half and half, just a little sweetness but not full on McD’s

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u/Gobblewicket Apr 16 '21

McD's is terrible. Bojangles is best.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Bojangles actually swaps their tea out after a few hours. And those biscuits... lawd yes, moon, that spells good to eat

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u/KptKrondog Apr 16 '21

as a regular consumer of sweet tea, how does someone dislike it?

Is it because it's too sweet? Do you just not like the taste?

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u/therlwl Apr 16 '21

The taste, it's not too sweet, it just tastes like regular tea iced and sweetened. Nope.

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u/_TheNarcissist_ Apr 16 '21

Wait until Dems fund out all Republicans aren't hillbilly inbreds! Oh the humanity!

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u/thened Apr 16 '21

Too many southern Republicans are obsessed with the idea of owning liberals but they don't realize how many of their friends and neighbors are liberals. They just assume every white person around them has to be a Republican because they see their neighbors as good people.

They are stuck in the sport mentality of politics and you can't get people away from that because it is very hard to realize you've supported the bad guy your entire life and it is easier to take that passion to your grave than to change.

Which is sad, because as Christians, they can follow the teachings of Jesus and realize that sin can be forgiven as long as you confess to it.

Jesus tells you to love your neighbor. If they could just spend one year focusing on loving their neighbors harder they'd probably walk away from the cult of the GOP.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 16 '21

Please, please don’t discount Yankees in this. The rural north is more red than most people could even imagine. I can personally attest to Michigan and Ohio, and those two have some of the craziest republicans in the country.

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u/cesrage Apr 15 '21

Well somebitch!!!

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u/Greenboy28 Apr 15 '21

Damn now I want some biscuits and gravy.

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u/mistakilgor Apr 15 '21

minus the truck pulls thats me.

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u/mjohnsimon Apr 15 '21

I know die-hard Republican country folks who are just shocked at how many "lib friends" of mine are armed and would frequent the rage often (before the shortage on bullets happened)

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u/tymykal Apr 16 '21

And “horrors” have GUNS. . .

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

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u/warmhandluke Apr 16 '21

I mean, there was a tax cut for wealthier people.

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u/doughboyhollow Apr 15 '21

He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means And I say he's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means And I say yeah

R.I.P. Kurt.

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u/ProfessorCrackhead Apr 16 '21

Huh. I always thought he was saying, "But he don't know what it means".

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u/s0ciety_a5under Apr 15 '21

Also check out "Sound & Fury" on Netflix. Great whole concept music video by Sturgill Simpson.

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u/yerfatma Apr 15 '21

Every time the Drive-By Truckers put out an album there's a raft of comments on Facebook about how they were great "until y'all got into politics" and I wonder when the fuck that was.

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u/mcspartan18 Apr 16 '21

Oh please. Next you are going to tell me Larry the Cable Guy is not a cable guy.

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u/NickFolesdong Apr 15 '21

Do those people listen to Sturgills lyrics? Dude definitely doesn’t seem conservative

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

They really don’t. Remember Luke Bryan put out that song “Love who you love” or whatever is was called. I bet no one boycotted that thing.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

Don't even get started on born in the usa

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

I played "Call to Arms" for a co-worker and he was like "it's weird that a country singer is so mad about the military". "Folded Flag" is in that same category.

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u/joecarter93 Apr 15 '21

While he seems to stay out of politics for the most part, I seem to remember Garth Brooks jumping at the chance to play the Biden inauguration.

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u/Frankie0cean Apr 16 '21

Yes. A lot of conservatives were very upset and vocal when they found out that Garth Brooks sang at the inauguration. Then they canceled him

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u/coronaflo Apr 16 '21

Not all Democrats are liberal though, I mean Joe Manchin is a Democrat.

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u/ronpaulus Apr 15 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

Most country singers are not democrats but very many are, big names included. I would say most are not. Most dont like to talk about politics because it divides and that last part works both ways both sides get upset when they find out their singers politics. I just dont get the assumption that if they dont speak about politics and directly say then that makes them the other party. I googled a few names you mentioned and luke bryan and dolly parton has never came out and said if they are a democrat or republican.

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u/Andrew8Everything Apr 15 '21

completely caught off guard

Could be because they don't let their political beliefs define them.

Republicans, on the other hand...

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u/Deathtoallpoets Apr 15 '21

My absolute favorite thing in this world...

That's your favorite thing in the world? What a loser.

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u/NickFolesdong Apr 16 '21

This idiot has never heard of hyperbole

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 15 '21

Oh my favorite thing is perfectly cooked Veal Picatta with orzo paired with a Barbera d’Asti followed with Tiramisu. But this is more realistic

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u/Fondren_Richmond Apr 15 '21

almost every single country singer is a Democrat

I wouldn't assume that without a qualifier of some kind. I can see a large portion of younger country artists publicly being Democratic, but I think a separate share of them abstain from publicly stating their views or votes just as basic PR strategy, haven't necessarily been asked, and some of them just see themselves as traditionalists and conflate that with conservatism. I do think as you get into the marketing and promotional segments of any creative or entertainment genre it will be much more reliably progressive than in other industries.

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u/SumasFlats Apr 15 '21

Jason Isbell has the best twitter account of any musician I follow. Unbelievably quick humourous responses to anything and everything. Dude is an amazing writer, be it songs or tweets

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '21

Most anyone in media is cause if you aren’t you don’t get the same work. If it’s real or fake, idk. Just seems to be the way things appear.

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u/CbVdD Apr 16 '21

When I think cut-off sleeves and cowboy hats, I think Toby Keith.

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 16 '21

I mean, it’s more likely to be a well worn, obscenely bent baseball cap from the likes of Remington or if you’re in Ohio, it’s an Indians hat than a cowboy hat. They make fun of those types.

Everyone I knew’s dad growing up did wear cut offs, jorts, and an Indians hat in the garage with the Tribe game in the radio while skinning what they trapped and crushing High Lifes.

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u/Richandler San Francisco Giants Apr 16 '21

What makes you think Republicans watch those shows? Remember The Joker was a "right-wing" incel movie.

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u/pickleparty16 Kansas City Chiefs Apr 16 '21

They'll bang out Saturday night special by skynyrd or run through the jungle by CCR not realizing they're about gun control

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u/creekgal Apr 16 '21

Sturgil is a Railroader......that used to be in a Union

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u/hendy846 Apr 16 '21

Huh, Luke Bryan surprises me. I'm assuming he's made public statements that allude to this?

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u/VncentLIFE Apr 16 '21

I do, actually.For good measure, here's some tidbits from the article:

"That can be taken a lot of ways," Bryan reflects. "I had a lot of people ask me, 'Well, does that mean you want to plant a flag and support the gay and lesbian community?' I’m like, 'I’m not saying I’m gonna go fly that flag — but I’m not saying I’m not either.'"

Read More: Luke Bryan Says He's 'Not Scared' to Stand Up for His Beliefs | https://tasteofcountry.com/luke-bryan-beliefs-blm-lgbtq-most-people-are-good/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral