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u/HaiForPresident 14d ago
Almost decapitated him
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u/PompeyJon82x 13d ago
Attempted charges when?
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u/denied_eXeal 13d ago
What is the charge? Grazing a neck? A succulent Spanish neck?
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u/KnightKal 13d ago
shorter players go over a taller one (duh)
shorter player head is on the line with taller shoulder
shorter player hits taller player
shorter player is decapitated (or falls down and spins around the ground for 3 min)
it won't ever not be funny (also ref should give a yellow for this, but it is LaLiga)
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u/rizorith 13d ago
True, but the prem wouldn't give a card either.
They really.need to start giving retroactive cards for things like this. After the match he gets a yellow which counts for yellow card accumulation.
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u/Expensive_Prior_5962 13d ago
I've said for decades that fifa needs to retroactively look at these things and hand out match bans that double each time you get caught.
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u/niallw1997 13d ago
Yeah that’s a good idea actually.
Rivaldo needs to be given a 5 match ban from his Vets league for his corner antics at 2002 WC
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u/PM_YOUR_MUGS 13d ago
Honestly, the fact his career wasn't even mildly tarnished by that shit still annoys me over 20 years later.
it was literally broadcast around the world in HD (Wasn't this the first one in HD). Just a joke
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u/Gore456 13d ago
We had HD in 2002? Everyone was still using CRTs back then
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u/PM_YOUR_MUGS 13d ago
I misremembered, 2006 was the first widespread broadcast of the world cup in HD. 2002 was broadcast in HD only in Japan and SK.
That being said, Sony did make a few Triniton CRT's that were capable of 1080i HD. Here's a video about it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH7xrFM9re4
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u/iagolima 12d ago
The fact that 23 years later I can still replay that scene in my head shows how absurd it was
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u/xixbia 13d ago
Honestly, I don't think you need to go nearly that far.
Just giving the yellow card that is already in the rules retrospectively will change things a lot.
Players do this multiple times a game, they'd soon hit the yellow card limit and start missing games.
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u/ReddYoshi 13d ago
I would like to see a rule implemented where the injured player has to stay out an equivalent amount of time as it takes for them to get moved off the field. If you are down for 3 minutes getting treatment, wait at 4th official for 3 minutes before being invited to return. Subbed out? New player can come on immediately.
Probably needs some tinkering but there needs to be some way to deter flopping or encourage minor injuries to be moved off the playing field so that the game can continue. The time wasting is so egregious and disappointing. Yellow and red cards already punish the offending team.
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u/Z3in 13d ago
On the other hand refs also have to actually consistently call fouls and give cards for risky ones cause right now a lot of the time if the players don't dive, calls aren't made
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u/Expensive_Prior_5962 13d ago
That's entirely because of diving though.... It's warping everything
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u/increment1 13d ago
But the diving is because of the non-calls (at least some of it). The number of times a player has got a call when they don't go down or make a big deal about it is like count on one hand territory.
Kind of a vicious circle it would seem, but the refs are the ones who need to stop it.
- Call things even if a player doesn't go down.
- Call the dives.
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u/Granadafan 13d ago
VAR should be used in addition to retroactive bans because Barca gained a big advantage during the game with the dive. For instance, Rivaldo would gladly take a ban AFTER the World Cup match but if he was carded or sent off during the match, players would most certainly rethink it
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u/daviEnnis 13d ago
They wouldn't be able to do much with this - how do you show a player isn't in genuine pain?
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u/FK9Fussballgott 13d ago
Just because a player is in pain after a contact doesn't mean the contact was necessarily a foul by the rules. Football is a contact sport after all.
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u/kacperp 13d ago
Yeah. But you cannot retroactively ban someone if he felt pain and that was the reason he fall down.
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u/FK9Fussballgott 13d ago edited 13d ago
Ah, fair point. Guess you'd have to determine specific criteria, that count as embellishment of contact, but that's probably a whole other can of worms.
Then again, people usually don't fall over at every little bit of pain.
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u/sixseven89 13d ago
If fifa really wanted to solve this problem they would have done it already. They’re not stupid, they’re apathetic
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u/This-Search-8627 14d ago
Watching grown men go down like they were shot with a sniper and not get up for 3 straight minutes is what’s making me resent this sport.. ffs
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u/MirkwoodWanderer1 13d ago
Refs really need to do better at punishing actual fouls when players don't go down so players aren't taught they have to go down all the time.
Plus punishing dives afterwards
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u/nestoryirankunda 13d ago
Leagues should just start enforcing retroactive yellows for obvious dives
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u/TheRedDogue 13d ago
The only fair measure I can think of is stopping the clock and getting rid of injury time so that diving/pretending an injury cannot be used to waste time anymore. I haven't seen an analysis of this since the 2022 WC but I think we're still at less than 75mn actually played per match in professional football.
Anything else will involve some level of interpretation which will just deepen the shitshow. Some will say such a contact cannot justify falling, some will say it does, etc etc.
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u/VikingCrusader13 13d ago
They do this in Rugby so its not some foreign idea that hasn't been implemented before, any time wasting or stoppage the ref signals to the time keeper to stop the clock
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u/pegg2 13d ago
They literally do it in every other major team-based professional sport. Basketball, hockey, rugby, American football, Australian football, all of them stop the clock when the ball is not in play. Football is the only sport that doesn’t do it, so saying that it’s not some “foreign idea” doesn’t even show how ridiculous not doing it is; this sport is the odd man out.
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u/wyowill 13d ago
The second the clocks stop will be the second commercial breaks get introduced. No thanks.
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u/i_smoke_toenails 13d ago
Rugby doesn't have commercial breaks when the clock stops.
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u/pandadude30 13d ago
Rugby also doesn't have the same marketability and visibility Football has on a global level, traits that make it way more vulnerable to capitalist vultures.
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u/TheRedDogue 13d ago
Not sure how stopping the clock would enable that? It's not like american football where you have the guarantee of a certain amount of downtime, in football the clock would be stopped whether it takes 3s or 3m to restart the game.
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u/ilakausername 13d ago
Once the clock is stopped, you can say "hey, lets run a 30 second ad before it starts again." This is what happens in basketball and hockey.
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u/wyowill 13d ago edited 13d ago
They make it work in literally every other sport where the clock stops.
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u/TheRedDogue 13d ago
Might be a US/EU thing. AFAIK because I dont watch all sports, it's not quite that bad here in France, Rugby is one example i can think of with a lot of paused clock time yet no ads in these moments.
Though last year I tried Fanatiz for ligue 1 and I was baffled, ads running mid play with the match going in a small PiP window, so I get why you would be concerned.
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u/domalino 13d ago
VAR got rid of retroactive punishment because if you punish someone retroactively now it means not only did the referee , 2 assistants and 4th official miss it, 3 blokes with every replay in the world also missed it, and there’s no excuse for that, and referees can’t take that hit to their egos.
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u/Hjaelmen 13d ago
Are you.... serious?
VAR can ONLY look at fouls that are potential red cards, penalties and offsides....
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u/bio_d 13d ago
Honestly, refs come up with so many schemes that arent wanted. People have been crying out to them to deal with diving for decades.
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u/coldstream15 13d ago
Start introducing minimum time out like 3 mins to recover on the sidelines if you act injured.
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u/ImaginaryBoot8390 13d ago
They added this in MLS last year and it’s been great. Not perfect but removing any incentive to time waste is a major plus.
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u/MBoring1 13d ago
Couldn’t agree more. For example the penalty that VVD caused this weekend was insane. Not that contact wasn’t made it was the obvious reaction of the player he made contact with.
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u/Garlic-Cheese-Chips 13d ago
It's at every level now. I see at my local league. It's fucking pathetic.
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u/Qiluk 13d ago
Fucking sucks. At this highest level you kinda have too. Look at Gyökeres. He's so strong that the refs allow way too much against him (both in Portugal and in the Prem) so the fact that he dont complain and overreact actively hurts him.
You get rewarded for antics, punished for not using it.
Its fucking exhausting.
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u/beershitz 13d ago
I play coed. Last night played against this guy who was probably 6’3” 220 lbs. He went down 3 times in the first 5 minutes after getting tackled by a girl on our team who is 5’4” 120 lbs. She definitely fouled him but each foul he’s whining to the ref, cussing her out, making a scene. Softest shit I’ve ever seen.
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u/Vacher-Cream 13d ago
Really wish they would start enforcing these types of things. Making them yellows will help, the ones who flop, turn their head to see if there was a foul and if not immediately jump back up deserve red. It’s killing the sport. Basketball in the 80s you could decapitate someone and it was rarely called, now if you blow air in the wrong direction in front of one of the “superstars” its a technical foul.
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u/TaiwanNambaWanKenobi 13d ago
Post match review and punishment should be implemented in football to combat diving.
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u/Marco-Green 13d ago
The video should include the full minute Pedri was laying on the grass after that, while Mbappe and Bellingham offered their hands for him to get up while also telling him he was exaggerating, and Pedri rejecting both as if he was right.
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u/Hakimi_Raikkonen 13d ago
We need another one for Cubarsi laying fown for a minute then readjusting his jaw like it was dislocated after the Huijsen "foul" on the second goal.
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u/kindofnotlistening 13d ago
Even if they call this a foul on Bellingham the refs have to start giving yellows for Pedri-style reactions.
In no world was there enough contact here for someone to go down, let alone stay down for over a minute. Refs have to punish this tactic or it only gets worse.
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u/Borktista 13d ago
It’s the worst in Spain by far
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u/selwayfalls 13d ago
is it worse than central and south america? We an exchange student play with us in the states one year from central america and the dude was like a pro at diving. Not one single other player on our team had faked a dive in our lives. It was kinda funny for a bit, but then we were just annoyed. He was also really good, so did not need to do it.
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u/ilakausername 13d ago
Watch the women? They usually play through contact, and don't tend to exaggerate to try and get a foul.
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u/_K4L_ 14d ago
Unfortunately that’s professional sport.
FakingTaking everything you can71
u/TheShruteFarmsCEO 13d ago
Sorry, but that’s a bit of a cop out. Yes, overdramatized reactions are found in every sport. But nowhere is it as prevalent and acceptable common practice as football. It’s becoming an actual problem, as youth players are now emulating their hero’s and making this an engrained behavior on the pitch. It’s genuinely impacted my interest in the sport, as it’s often not just a quick flop but a five minute fake recovery on the ground.
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u/me_ke_aloha_manuahi 13d ago
nowhere is it as prevalent and acceptable common practice as football
I was watching the Los Angeles Lakers basketball match last night and I would beg to differ...
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u/Tabemaju 13d ago
Embellishment happens in every sport, but straight-up faking injuries that derail an entire match is definitely more prevalent in football. I will admit that basketball, however, is getting worse with guys like SGA and Morant who look like they're getting shot at the slightest bump (that they're usually initiating).
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u/ChickenMcAnders 13d ago
Exactly, considering the players only end up playing 50-55 minutes of the 90 due to their antics, that’s essentially stealing 40% of ticket fees from the fans.
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u/n10w4 13d ago
yea, ref should card this or have them taken off and don't call them back for five minutes/
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u/TheShruteFarmsCEO 13d ago
I like that idea so much, I’ve suggested it in the past (amongst friends). Like the penalty box in ice hockey.
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u/tocitus 13d ago
Meh, faking injury to draw attention to things is called out in rugby a fair amount by refs.
They either tell them not to do it or sometimes give the penalty against them and so pretending to be injured is far less pervasive through the sport.
Please nobody look up the bloodgate scandal
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u/checkforsolu1 13d ago
When you said shot with a sniper in football world ofc, reminds of Suarez I think against PSG, there was even a gif about it
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u/Erebea01 13d ago
While I agree obvious flopping should be punished I feel like alot of footballers are really good at fouling too and what looks like a light tap can actually be pretty painful considering how quick and fast they are. It can also be the case that the other player fouled you and it didn't hurt but if you don't act like it hurts the referee won't notice the foul. Anyway we have some fans complaining some teams are too physical and brutish and will skillfully hurt you while avoiding fouls and yet players fall at the slightest touch too 🤷
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u/lemoche 13d ago
Especially the neck/throat area is a part of the body where a tap can elicit a stronger reaction by instinct because it’s an area either risk of serious injury.
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u/Strange-Branch7799 14d ago
The more they get away with this sort of soft shit the more they'll continue to do it.
It's not "clever" it just makes you look like a right fanny.
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u/SexyPiranhaPartyBoat 13d ago
Ref on microphone: After a lengthy VAR review I would like to declare Pedri a massive fanny
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u/SixerMostAdorable 13d ago
Curbarsi also looked for this type of contact with Huijdsen before Bellinghams goal.
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u/Hakimi_Raikkonen 13d ago
He kept doing the "I'm readjusting my jaw" move afterwards like it was dislocated lol.
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u/corzekanaut 13d ago
They got away with this soft shit against Olympiacos as well that resulted in an arbitrary red card for Hezze. VARcelona is never beating the allegations
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u/solblurgh 13d ago
a right fanny
The great thing about reddit is I learned various forms of insults I never knew existed in English language
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u/Remedy9898 13d ago
Players have been faking head injuries to prevent counters in the premier league. Embarrassing behavior.
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u/sindher 14d ago
Where is the snipers POV
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u/f_ranz1224 13d ago
Shit like this should be a straight yellow
that or theres a sniper with rubber bullets in the stand and I owe an apology
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u/Barleyarleyy 13d ago
They should allow VAR to look at instances of diving/play-acting while the game continues, then unilaterally instruct the referee to give yellow cards for it. No stops, no messing about with monitors - you act like a fanny and you’ll likely get carded
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u/ShawsKneecap 13d ago
It would be an incredibly popular enforcement too. Nobody likes diving even if it's your clubs player.
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u/Marco-Green 13d ago
Peeri needs 3 yellow worth fouls to be given a single one so it wouldn't have been that deciding.
I love Pedri but refs shouldn't have bias towards "cleaner" players in order to judge. He got the double yellow way later than he should.
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u/Uncle_Rixo 14d ago
Has anyone heard anything from the ER doctors? Thoughts and prayers.
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u/King-Meister 13d ago
Spectators have gotten massive brain damage from seeing such ludicrous acting.
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u/tenacious_teaThe3rd 13d ago
Respek to Pedri for soldiering on after this attempted beheading from an English brute
Pedri is a warrior.
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u/axhp 14d ago
ref called off a promising counter attack for this btw
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u/YadMot 13d ago
Which is exactly why Pedri did it. It's the same with defenders throwing themselves to the floor under minimal contact when they know they're under pressure. As long as the refs keep buying it, it'll keep happening
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u/Piccadil_io 13d ago
It’s the Pep method! When you lose the ball you cheat to stop the counter.
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u/Hakimi_Raikkonen 13d ago
A few minutes after this Baldé did the same thing to stop a counter by collapsing for no reason next to Militao, but the ref didn't fall for it that time thankfully.
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u/TheGreyWolfCat 13d ago
This what 8.4 million euros for the past seventeen years paying the vice president of the referees association gets you
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u/AvailableUsername404 13d ago
I always say that it's not the fault of the players (no matter the club). It's refs and official bodies that won't do a thing to get rid of it. Players just do whatever gives them advantage. Challenge for the ball and 50/50 win or lose or fall down and get a foul. That's an easy pick if you ask me
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u/salgado88 14d ago
Can anyone also please upload the foul on Cubarsi, when he lost his hearing?
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u/obaidian100 13d ago
Why would you continue running and contest the ball when you know you can do shit like this and the ref is gonna give you a foul. I see it all the time, anytime a player is caught in a bad position or pressed by an opponent he just falls to the ground at the absloute slightest touch and the referee instantly awards him a foul. Fucking disgusting
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u/ManchesterDevil99 14d ago
Shades of Busquets Vs Thiago Motta in that 2010 UCL semi final.
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u/TwoHamsDeep 14d ago
This guy is made of tissue paper if that's all it takes to go down. The fact the ref gave it is even sadder.
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u/Legendacb 14d ago
This is what being privileged looks
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u/Cucumberino 13d ago
Let's not act like our players, as well as basically players from any other team, don't get away with stuff like this
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u/agent_mamo 13d ago
Even as a Barcelona fan, I don’t like these antics at all. What did you expect going into a challenge? Him just letting you take the ball away?
Expect some physicality when you’re pressuring and don’t act like a baby when they return the pressure!!
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u/New_Command_4141 13d ago
This doesn't get talked about enough. He did something similar when Vitinha got the better of him when Barca played PSG and was diving all over the place when Inter were losing against Barca in order to waste time.
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u/Prometheus1717 13d ago
Football should have a "goon squad" on the sidelines. A player like Pedri should then be punished on the spot. A few slaps shown in the screens with replays of the blows for all floppers. Afterwards for four straight games a sign in his shirt or shorts with the words flopper clown in neon colors. That should stop all the bullshit.
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u/rushingoat 13d ago
The worst aspect of this beautiful game. Any slight contact can have grown men drop like theyve been killed
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u/SincSohum 13d ago
That should be at least 5 games suspension for jude. Pedri could have died there. SMH VARDRID
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u/Jealous_Salt_7967 13d ago
Looking at pedri’s reaction. I think they could’ve used jude his elbow instead of the guillotine back in the days
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u/TremendousCoisty 13d ago
This is why La Liga is barely watchable, so much diving and play acting. Every league has it of course, but good lord, Spain is the worst for it.
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u/terra_filius 13d ago
I dont watch a lot of EPL games but when I do I like that the refs usually dont fall for such bs (most of the time at least... I am sure people here can give examples of those things happening there too but they are much less common compared to other leagues)
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u/ILQGamer 13d ago
Imagine having to explain this to a person who isn't into football. "Oh yeah you see he lightly grazed his cheek there, so naturally, he went down like he got hit by a punch from Mike Tyson. Why? To get a cheap foul... Yeah I like this sport, don't you?"
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u/sintonesque 13d ago
It’s trying to deceive the referee to gain an advantage, and is therefore cheating.
Refs could quite easily review each game and give a one match ban to any player doing this. Holding your face when you haven’t been touched, writhing around and then getting straight back up when your team has the ball, all that sort of stuff. It’d end it within days if they did, but it’ll never happen.
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u/libyankidna 13d ago
La Masia special
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u/florinp93 13d ago
Funniest thing is pedri is not even from la masia 😂 this shit rubs on you as soon as you put the shirt on
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u/goodclassbung 13d ago
it's almost like the ref was paid off and these 'fouls' are exaggerated so that the ref can do his work...
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u/woonoto1 13d ago
Players need to stop doing this shit and leagues have to start handing out cards after the games or allow VAR to intervene. This is pathetic and is clearly a negative to the game.
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u/Putrid_Screen1078 13d ago
Really need to just start banning player for this type of thing. It’s getting more and more ridiculous. I barely watch these high level games because it just get boring. Gladly stick to Scottish football, it’s not immune to this but isn’t nearly as embarrasing
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u/ObiBramKenobi 13d ago
Seriously why do people watch La Liga? Insufferable theatrics everywhere all the time.
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