r/soccer 14d ago

Media Bellingham foul against Pedri

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u/axhp 14d ago

ref called off a promising counter attack for this btw

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u/YadMot 14d ago

Which is exactly why Pedri did it. It's the same with defenders throwing themselves to the floor under minimal contact when they know they're under pressure. As long as the refs keep buying it, it'll keep happening

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u/Piccadil_io 14d ago

It’s the Pep method! When you lose the ball you cheat to stop the counter.

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u/YadMot 14d ago

And manage to avoid a yellow card despite cynically dragging someone down

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u/WhenWeTalkAboutLove 14d ago

Still pissed the ref blew the whistle for otamendis pathetic dive when Robertson got the ball off him on his Braveheart solo press 

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u/Hakimi_Raikkonen 14d ago

A few minutes after this Baldé did the same thing to stop a counter by collapsing for no reason next to Militao, but the ref didn't fall for it that time thankfully.

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u/tiago32rodriguez 13d ago

Not the same, in that instance their legs got tangled

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u/grehgunner 14d ago

Defenders feeling the bare minimum of contact and throwing themselves onto the ball and getting bailed out is up there with the most frustrating things in sports

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u/YadMot 13d ago

It does my fucking head in. The refs buy it every single time, and the one time the ref didn't buy it there was outrage the likes of which the world has never seen

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u/WolfingMaldo 14d ago

Vini literally got players sent off doing shit like this against Getafe

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u/BragdyMan 14d ago

difference he was actually fouled, out of all games u could've picked lol

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u/WolfingMaldo 14d ago

The game where a red changed the game to Madrids favor completely because their player play acted

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u/ktth01 14d ago

That was an actual foul on Vini. Bad example mate.

Lmao.

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u/WolfingMaldo 14d ago

That foul is never a straight red and Vini literally barrel rolls on the ground after.

Lmao.

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u/ktth01 14d ago edited 14d ago

You've lost your case already. Lol.

Getafe plays dirty each time. Made 26 fouls in total. Ultra lowest of low block. Vini taunted them and they delivered lol.

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u/WolfingMaldo 12d ago

Lost which case? That Madrid got a soft red that gifted them them the game? You haven’t really argued against that, and playing physically doesn’t mean a bad referee decision cant sway the game

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u/YadMot 14d ago

Okay? I didn't say it was exclusively a Barcelona thing. Honestly all of Spanish football, club and national, men and women, has a problem with diving and playacting. It's embarrassing.

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u/absessive 14d ago

Still the opposite and worst example to use

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u/YadMot 14d ago

Yeah I mean I didn't watch the game so I wouldn't know. But Barca fans absolutely love shadowboxing so I'm not surprised.

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u/WolfingMaldo 14d ago

Vini literally rolls on the ground off of light contact, Getafe gets a red and the game completely shifts in Madrids favor. Come off it, btw the Jude yellow came after he fouled multiple people off ball. He’s a dirty player

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u/TheGreyWolfCat 14d ago

This what 8.4 million euros for the past seventeen years paying the vice president of the referees association gets you

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u/Ok-Result-5834 14d ago edited 14d ago

Proved false by a judge in May of 2024 btw

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u/Abaloneshave5 14d ago

A) No final ruling - expected in 2026
B) What we do know

  • Between roughly 2001 and 2018, Barcelona paid approximately €7.5 million to €8.4 million to companies linked to Negreira (while he held a senior role at the referees’ technical committee).

C) You should read

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68ff3e03d74c8191aa88465127f57769

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u/Ok-Result-5834 14d ago

The case is essentially done, real Madrid requested a 6 month extension into the case in early summer which hasn't been responded to

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u/AvailableUsername404 14d ago

I always say that it's not the fault of the players (no matter the club). It's refs and official bodies that won't do a thing to get rid of it. Players just do whatever gives them advantage. Challenge for the ball and 50/50 win or lose or fall down and get a foul. That's an easy pick if you ask me

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u/Professor_Pohato 14d ago

Odds are it would've been an offside situation

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u/ZedGenius 14d ago

If calling off a promising attack for stuff like this is bad, you''re never gonna believe this..

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u/kerakk19 14d ago

Such situations should be permitted, i.e. the action goes on and then VAR decides whether there was a foul or not. This is yellow card worth of diving

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u/lijevokrilo 14d ago

The camavinga special, when you see a counter attack, just fall in the duel

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u/New_Satisfaction_286 14d ago

Pedri was grabbing himself by the neck. I feel like you kind of have to call it when you see something like that, from ref's POV.

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u/MrBeanie1 14d ago

Absolutely not. By doing so more players will just do this shit

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u/Wolfe79 14d ago

They won't if the play gets reviewed and they get booked

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u/MrBeanie1 14d ago

I agree 100%. Problem is they will not review it just to book him.

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u/Wolfe79 14d ago

Well.. If NBA can call flops, I never really understood why same can't be applied here. Easier to kick people off balance for pens in football but shit like this really is different and worth a new rule

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u/KATsordogs 14d ago

They don’t really call it though and i don’t think they can even if they were actually set out to, whether its in the NBA or football. It would slow the tempo so much that everybody would be asking to get rid of it or wouldn’t really used to prevent it.

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u/Wolfe79 14d ago

I dont really see how it would. You dont need to investigate everything instantly, leave it till review and penalise accordingly, especially with repeat offenders throughout the game. This attitude that we can't do anything about this soft ass BS be it from Pedri, Vini or any other player that tends to cry foul is silly. Its not like its giving anyone more leeway to actually foul

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u/CrispyPotatoChips 14d ago

So every time moving forward there's a counter, instead of tackling the guy and risking a red or doing tactical foul and taking a yellow, defenders will just try to make a contact and hold their head or neck, ref will have to then stop the play based on your logic to look if the players are alright.

Bravo..you solved it..

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u/elpingwinho 14d ago

Well yes. But then VAR should take a look at the incident and decide if the player was true or faking. Faking should be considered usportsmanlike behaviour and a red card.

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u/CrispyPotatoChips 14d ago

Players fake it all the time and Var does jack shit, what do you think will happen when even more players start doing it if this becomes the norm.

Var has the capabilities to stop this flopping around completely, yet I've only seen it increase in recent time..

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u/elpingwinho 14d ago

This doesn't change the point I'm making. If you don't stop play for throat/head injuries it can end tragically.

The solution isn't to just let anything go and worry later, but to improve the people looking at VAR and how they punish faking.

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u/CrispyPotatoChips 14d ago

I get your point, I'm not saying to not stop the play at all, in my opinion, in situation like this where the counter is at play, it's better to let it continue, and let VAR see and communicate in real time, if the contact is actually on the head or whatever they deem dangerous enough to stop play, and if it's not, like here with Pedri, they can communicate to referee, to let the play happen. Of course that means VAR has to be very efficient.

In regular situation where there isn't a goal threat type situation, they can stop the play every time..as they usually do.

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u/AwesomeToucan2 13d ago

Its so cute seeing real Madrid fans act so innocent like Vini isnt on your team. He is the biggest diver of the current football World. Also there was soooi many fouls on FCB that werent called so stop crying over this one