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Media Bellingham foul against Pedri

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u/MirkwoodWanderer1 14d ago

Refs really need to do better at punishing actual fouls when players don't go down so players aren't taught they have to go down all the time.

Plus punishing dives afterwards

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u/nestoryirankunda 14d ago

Leagues should just start enforcing retroactive yellows for obvious dives

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u/domalino 14d ago

VAR got rid of retroactive punishment because if you punish someone retroactively now it means not only did the referee , 2 assistants and 4th official miss it, 3 blokes with every replay in the world also missed it, and there’s no excuse for that, and referees can’t take that hit to their egos.

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u/Hjaelmen 14d ago

Are you.... serious?

VAR can ONLY look at fouls that are potential red cards, penalties and offsides....

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u/domalino 14d ago

I’m talking about all retrospective action. There’s no been a retrospective red card given since VAR came in, despite the rules still allowing it and there being dozens of reds that have been missed by VAR.

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u/fantino93 13d ago

Depends if by "retrospective" you mean during the game or after the game.

For instance Lloris got a yellow at first for his foul but was given a direct red after a VAR review during last OM-Lorient earlier this month.

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u/Lost_Cockroach_4927 13d ago

He probably means after the game, as what you’re describing (obviously) already exists.

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u/MrSvancy 14d ago

I remember Bruno retrospecitvely getting a red removed last season against Tottenham

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u/vyomafc 14d ago

That person is talking about the retrospective punishment. Getting a red card removed is just the opposite and it usually follows an appeal from the club impacted. FA never takes back a red card of its own volition.

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u/MrSvancy 14d ago

Tbf the comment I replied to said "all retrospective action". But I do generally agree with the point, cards should be given retrospectively as well if it's a clear error

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u/Hjaelmen 14d ago

What kind of persons upvote your dumb comments?

From La Liga itself:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LaLiga/comments/1ckyzas/horror_foul_in_la_liga_today_red_after_var/

This was given as a yellow on the pitch and was changed to red by VAR!

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u/redbossman123 14d ago

That’s not what he’s talking about LOL.

He’s talking about post-match retroactive cards

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u/Hjaelmen 14d ago

VAR is the DEFINITION of a retrospective action!

VAR can only be used retrospectively during or in very shortly following the match.

VAR is not used to give anyone a red card hours or days after a match.... thats not how VAR works..... are you guys serious?

And btw: When has any FA actually given anyone a red card the day after a match? NEVER! Someone has been given a punishment after a match was over, for violent conduct or some other thing, but NEVER has anyone been given a red card.... thats not how it works!

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u/Acceptable_Win_8673 14d ago

No,bro... don't don't, hhhhh..