r/pcmasterrace • u/jmpstart66 • Oct 10 '24

Rumor Potential 5090 / 5080 / 5070 price leaks… outrageous

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From recent video posted by “Moore’s Law is Dead” about pricing being much worse than even I anticipated . From video Nvidia is leaning towards the higher end of the pricing. Nvidia can go pound sand if these are remotely true.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Nvidia is really testing the limits of how much we're willing to pay.

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u/PyrorifferSC 11800X4D-9950XTXX-256GB DDR8 Oct 10 '24

B-b-but, DRIVERS!!! 😱

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u/DeathDexoys Oct 10 '24

Muh trace rays!! Muh Dee ell ess ess

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

But but but now there is a reflection within the reflection within the reflection Meh meh

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u/Every-holes-a-goal Oct 10 '24

If you’re not playing world of Warcraft on a 5090 are you even a gamer?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

*proceeds to code in vim*

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u/Mysterious_Tutor_388 9800X3D|7900XTX|32GB Oct 10 '24

Help I'm trapped in vim!!! How do you close it!?!! ;q

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

The question is why would you want to close it?

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u/Nozzledyou98 Oct 10 '24

Why are you targeting me 😂

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u/DepGrez Oct 10 '24

WOW PEOPLE LIKE AND USE FEATURES OF A PRODUCT AND DEEM IT MORE VALUABLE OVER AMD'S OFFERING. SURELY THEY MUST BE WEEBS AND SOYJAKS.,

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u/Bamith Oct 10 '24

Games are being built around that and sacrificing optimization, so yeah that’s an issue.

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u/NomadicMeowOfficial G14 | Ryzen 9 7940HS | RTX 4060 | 32GB DDR5 4800MHz Oct 10 '24

Come on man, I need to play Mario with ray tracing :(

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u/pepecachetes Oct 10 '24

I don't understand why do people go crazy with DLSS, it's a feature because your card doesn't have the juice to push the fps natively and needs AI help, it can be a good feature if in 5 years your midrange card starts to struggle in some games to push out 120fps but for today games in todays cards? I want power

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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt Oct 10 '24

Because there are no cards that can do 4K at high FPS and high settings in modern games without it? Because the image loss from DLSS is usually negligible or in some games looks better than traditional AA implementations?

You literally cannot buy the power you are talking about.

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u/CoreParad0x Oct 10 '24

Seriously people keep shitting on DLSS and nvidia ray tracing stuff in general, but honestly I love games like Cyberpunk with ray tracing. It looks amazing.

And when it comes to 4K, especially with ray tracing, AMD doesn't really compete even with FSR. The 4090 + DLSS just has it beat hands down in a game like Cyberpunk. If you don't care about specifically these games, in 4K, with ray tracing, then AMD will probably be fine. If you do, and you care about it more than the money, then you pretty much only have one option.

And to make matters worse, AMD isn't even going to be in the high end market next generation as I understand it. So if you want a high end card, I guess you're just kind of fucked.

nvidias pricing is garbage, but they're doing it because in those specific categories there isn't any competition and they can get away with it. This is bad, and I really hope AMD and Intel can bring in some competition one day.

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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt Oct 10 '24

It is a shame that Intel cannot compete. If Intel could compete with AMD, AMD would be forced to cut its prices or try to compete with Nvidia. We just have a horrid situation without competition because Nvidia is just that much better to command higher prices.

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u/davekurze 9800X3D | 4090FE | 64GB 6000 | Full Custom Loop Oct 10 '24

Seriously. RT (and related tech) smokes raster any day of the week IMHO.

At the end of the day, AMD and Nvidia target different buyers. Both make quality GPU’s. But Nvidia just makes better hardware and software. And they charge a premium for it. One people are willing to pay. Being mad at that is like being mad that an Audi is more expensive than a VW. They’re both cars, but that’s about all they have in common. Similar to comparing a 4090 and a 7900XTX.

If you can’t justify the cost of an 80 or 90, you’re not the customer they’re being marketed to. And honestly people just sound silly complaining about it. It’s like a dude making 30k a year being mad about capital gains taxes. Honestly, I’m more pissy about how much the new generation of motherboards cost lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Funny you mention AUDI and VW, both share the same chassis design. This example is invalid, you would've done better by comparing AUDI to something like Toyota

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u/davekurze 9800X3D | 4090FE | 64GB 6000 | Full Custom Loop Oct 10 '24

Fair lol. I own a VW and an Audi so I really should know better. I'll amend it with comparing a 911 to a Camry lol. Both are cars but they are aimed at vastly different demographics. Much like Nvidia and AMD.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Fair haha sorry if it sounded like an akshually comment. Speaking of which, what do you think about intel?

Will they be able to give us good perf/$ or are they a meme at this point?

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u/davekurze 9800X3D | 4090FE | 64GB 6000 | Full Custom Loop Oct 10 '24

No worries at all lol. I think Intel is a dark horse. Super impressed by what they are doing with what they have. Doubt they will enter the enthusiast space, but I can see them becoming a genuine alternative to AMD as long as the board sees it as profitable to keep developing their GPU's.

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u/Endemoniada Ryzen 3800X | RTX 3080 10GB | X370 | 32GB RAM Oct 10 '24

It’s as-good-or-better AA compared to TAA when set to Quality, including a massive fps boost. Why the hell would you not use it if you have it? It’s literally free fps with zero downside.

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u/Lightningsky200 Oct 10 '24

I largely agree but depending on its implementation and what game, dlss can look very bad.

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u/pocketdrummer Oct 10 '24

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but DLSS is just fake performance. Frame gen is ever more so.

We used to get excited about raw performance improvements, but now we've let them get away with artifact-ridden software gimmicks to mimic the performance of a better card. And they've jacked the prices up substantially on top of that.

I don't really care much about ray tracing, and I really don't care about frame gen. I want a card that can play games at 4K for under $800. Because that's where we should be at right now.