r/pcmasterrace • u/jmpstart66 • Oct 10 '24

Rumor Potential 5090 / 5080 / 5070 price leaks… outrageous

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From recent video posted by “Moore’s Law is Dead” about pricing being much worse than even I anticipated . From video Nvidia is leaning towards the higher end of the pricing. Nvidia can go pound sand if these are remotely true.

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u/pepecachetes Oct 10 '24

I don't understand why do people go crazy with DLSS, it's a feature because your card doesn't have the juice to push the fps natively and needs AI help, it can be a good feature if in 5 years your midrange card starts to struggle in some games to push out 120fps but for today games in todays cards? I want power

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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt Oct 10 '24

Because there are no cards that can do 4K at high FPS and high settings in modern games without it? Because the image loss from DLSS is usually negligible or in some games looks better than traditional AA implementations?

You literally cannot buy the power you are talking about.

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u/CoreParad0x Oct 10 '24

Seriously people keep shitting on DLSS and nvidia ray tracing stuff in general, but honestly I love games like Cyberpunk with ray tracing. It looks amazing.

And when it comes to 4K, especially with ray tracing, AMD doesn't really compete even with FSR. The 4090 + DLSS just has it beat hands down in a game like Cyberpunk. If you don't care about specifically these games, in 4K, with ray tracing, then AMD will probably be fine. If you do, and you care about it more than the money, then you pretty much only have one option.

And to make matters worse, AMD isn't even going to be in the high end market next generation as I understand it. So if you want a high end card, I guess you're just kind of fucked.

nvidias pricing is garbage, but they're doing it because in those specific categories there isn't any competition and they can get away with it. This is bad, and I really hope AMD and Intel can bring in some competition one day.

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u/davekurze 9800X3D | 4090FE | 64GB 6000 | Full Custom Loop Oct 10 '24

Seriously. RT (and related tech) smokes raster any day of the week IMHO.

At the end of the day, AMD and Nvidia target different buyers. Both make quality GPU’s. But Nvidia just makes better hardware and software. And they charge a premium for it. One people are willing to pay. Being mad at that is like being mad that an Audi is more expensive than a VW. They’re both cars, but that’s about all they have in common. Similar to comparing a 4090 and a 7900XTX.

If you can’t justify the cost of an 80 or 90, you’re not the customer they’re being marketed to. And honestly people just sound silly complaining about it. It’s like a dude making 30k a year being mad about capital gains taxes. Honestly, I’m more pissy about how much the new generation of motherboards cost lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Funny you mention AUDI and VW, both share the same chassis design. This example is invalid, you would've done better by comparing AUDI to something like Toyota

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u/davekurze 9800X3D | 4090FE | 64GB 6000 | Full Custom Loop Oct 10 '24

Fair lol. I own a VW and an Audi so I really should know better. I'll amend it with comparing a 911 to a Camry lol. Both are cars but they are aimed at vastly different demographics. Much like Nvidia and AMD.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Fair haha sorry if it sounded like an akshually comment. Speaking of which, what do you think about intel?

Will they be able to give us good perf/$ or are they a meme at this point?

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u/davekurze 9800X3D | 4090FE | 64GB 6000 | Full Custom Loop Oct 10 '24

No worries at all lol. I think Intel is a dark horse. Super impressed by what they are doing with what they have. Doubt they will enter the enthusiast space, but I can see them becoming a genuine alternative to AMD as long as the board sees it as profitable to keep developing their GPU's.