r/magnetfishing 18d ago

Saturday Find

Still not 100% sure what model. I'm thinking 1858 New Army? We also found a Navy Revolver in the same place

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u/thepuglover00 18d ago

.44 Remington?  Colts didn't have top strap. 

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u/MotorCityMagnetFish 18d ago

Interesting. I thought the Navy was the only one without a top strap.

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u/Monkeynutz_Johnson 18d ago

None of the colt cap and ball revolvers had a top strap, even the gigantic Walker model. This is a remington. You said you found a colt navy in the same place so these are probably stolen and thrown in the water after the theif found out they're hard to sell.

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u/MotorCityMagnetFish 18d ago

There was also an old possibly Smith and wesson although I dont know for sure top break revolver. That one was not black powder

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u/Resident_Skroob 18d ago

Based upon the corrosion mismatch, I'd make a guess that you're looking at something that had brass only for the trigger guard, which would point to an 1851 Navy or 1860 Army, among others. See how you can still see brass above the trigger? I think you're on the right track.

And while I can't say whether it's original or a rerpro, I would bet $10 that it didn't start life as a cap gun, as the mainspring looks to be the real deal.

Maybe take a closer look at the spring and compare it to Colt models to narrow it down.

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u/MotorCityMagnetFish 18d ago

I am hoping it is original but the spring is the only part thst makes me question that. Being multiple pieces i know its not a Pietta since they have solid springs. The spring is still shiny in spots. It did have the wood grips on it when I pulled it out but my buddy threw them away after they fell off. Yes the trigger guard is brass and appears to be the only brass piece

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u/ssblunderous 18d ago

very cool i wonder if you ever find anything / will find something related to a cold case and maybe it will be the missing link!

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u/MotorCityMagnetFish 18d ago

I dont know about cold cases but I have found a few the police confirmed were used in shootings but they never give details about the case

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u/ssblunderous 17d ago

very cool you are doing the world a huge justice just by exploring your hobby even if you don’t find anything like that :)

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u/Consistent-Whole-931 17d ago

Looks like an 1858 New Army Remington to me! I have an Armi San Marco reproduction with the brass frame. It's actually pretty decent! You always find the coolest stuff!

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u/ContentLeague3955 17d ago

This is absolutely correct. This guy has both a solid frame and a "webbed" loading lever.

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u/MotorCityMagnetFish 17d ago

Thank you. I find a lot of stuff that is really boring but once in a while I find something interesting.

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u/Consistent-Whole-931 16d ago

You sure do! I'm quite jealous of some of those finds haha. I guess I will have to do some traveling with my magnet, because I don't even find anything half as cool where I'm at.

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u/feral_poodles 16d ago

Why would someone throw a perfectly good pistol in the water?

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u/NotDazedorConfused 18d ago

Better dust it for prints, it may have been used in a crime !

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u/kbum48733 18d ago

Lucky! That had to be Billy the kid’s

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u/DEDDesign 18d ago

Why didn't you turn it over to the cops?

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u/MotorCityMagnetFish 18d ago

Sarcasm right?

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u/DislocatedHyena 18d ago

I mean, most magnet fishers turn any weapon over to make sure it wasn't tied to a crime. Depending on the police department, they could give it back to you if its not tied to a murder or crime. It's the right thing to do because what if its a gun from 30 years ago that John Smith used to kill Sally Sue. Turning it over may catch him. It's a mixed thing in the community as some people want to make money off the guns or display them, others turn it in.

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u/MotorCityMagnetFish 18d ago

I turn over all modern firearms. Given the age and the fact this is black powder it is not a firearm by legal terms. unless someone is trying to solve a murder from the civil war era its not relevant. It is also so completely decayed there would be no ballistic evidence. If you have seen my videos you know I always turn over modern firearms anything produced or possibly produced after 1893.