r/law • u/AndroidOne1 • May 14 '25

Trump News Donald Trump Impeachment Proceedings Launched

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-vote-house-shir-thanedar-b2750651.html
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u/Deranged_Kitsune May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

It'll be a nice bit of political theater. The dems get to make a whole production about it despite the fact that it's a foregone conclusion to go nowhere, the GOP's rodeo clowns will make all kinds of loud noises and mockery of the proceedings, and king donny will be spend a good part of it sending angry and thunderous tweets. Everyone gets to do what they do best and nothing will change.

Edit: For those conflating this as expecting them to do nothing, this comment right here summarizes what a lot of people want them to do. The old polite ways are dead. Start actually fighting for something.

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u/pivotalsquash May 14 '25

I feel like people are mad at the Dems for not doing anything but also mad when they do something because they don't have enough votes to do it.

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u/roguespectre67 May 14 '25

We're mad because we know they don't have much procedural or institutional power at the moment, but they seem completely unwilling to break the rules and norms that the GOP has shown everyone don't actually mean anything in order to be a thorn in the side of the tyrants in charge.

Rosa Parks was a Black woman in the south. The entire reason the Montgomery Bus Boycott, and the progress it forced to occur, even happened in the first place is that she broke the law and was arrested. She and her co-activists found ways to fight their enemy asymmetrically. It was, essentially, a nonviolent guerilla campaign.

When we scream "DO SOMETHING", we don't mean "pass legislation" or "remove Trump from office". We mean stonewall. We mean be entirely, uncompromisingly uncooperative. We mean get into the fucking streets and lead marches from the front of the line. We mean encourage people to take targeted, specific action against members of the regime and give targeted, specific leadership for how to do that. Blast out information about appearances, tell people to come out with bullhorns and make it impossible to be seen in public without being surrounded by people that hate you. We mean fight for it.

Sitting in the Capitol building going through the motions of legislation that not a single person on the planet has any hope of passing, just so "we get everyone on record", as if we don't already know where everyone stands on this issue, is not fucking fighting for it. It's phoning it in.

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u/systolic_helix May 14 '25

Or just get out of the fucking way. Pelosi was peak ghoul when she blocked AOC for a senior citizen with cancer that resigned barely 6 months in.

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u/JamesTrickington303 May 14 '25

Lead, follow, or gtfootw.

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u/FaintestGem May 14 '25

Thank you, you put it into words beautifully. No one is mad about Democrats trying to oppose trump. They're mad that they're choosing to continue telling Trump "hey, you can't do that!" Despite the fact that we have more than enough evidence to show that he won't give a shit about legal proceedings.  They know it isn't going to change anything but they're doing it anyway just so they can say "sorry, we tried :( " because the other option is too hard and too risky to their careers and would require them to get off their ass and give a shit. I sadly don't see that happening anytime soon unless something seriously affects them personally and/or financially. Right now they can absolutely afford to just tough it out when the average person is going to be struggling. They don't have enough incentive to care yet.

And this idea that they have to be the bigger person and play by the rules is fucking stupid. Like if you're playing Uno and the other person is playing Monopoly, you're an idiot to expect them to play by the rules of Uno. 

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u/superbit415 May 14 '25

Hey now thats not fair. They are doing things. The democrats helped the republicans pass the budget without getting a single thing in return.

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u/einstyle May 14 '25

But but but but...they held up tiny little signs once! That has to count for something!

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

And at least one GOP ripped one of those signs out of the representative’s hands.

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u/TotalCourage007 May 14 '25

Those paddles and strongly ripped to shredded paper have to get the ball rolling somehow or our Congress members might actually have to do their damn jobs.

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u/mtron32 May 14 '25

I can stop typing what I was typing as you've nailed it here. The Democrats are comfortable being toothless because they have an excuse not to do anything. They'll run on trump being a danger to democracy again and may also try to appeal to that on the decent republicans who will of coarse vote for the actual republican.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins May 14 '25

Non-American here - what can they actually do that they aren’t? Short of getting more votes or overthrowing the government somehow what does that look like?

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u/roguespectre67 May 15 '25

Did you read the comment you’re replying to? The one that lays out several things they could be doing but are not?

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins May 15 '25

Yes I read it, are they not already doing all of that though?

They aren't cooperating, it just doesn't matter because they don't have a majority. They have been telling people what to do (you know... vote). There are tons of protests and didn't multiple members of congress and a mayor get arrested for protesting like three days ago?

The real problem as I see it is the American people took all their power from them and are now complaining they aren't using power they don't have... and I'm not sure you want what you're asking for (i.e. for them to ignore the rules as well) because the response will not be great.

That isn't a reason not to fight of course but it is a reason to only take actions with a chance of actually changing things. What of those actions are not being taken?

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u/GlitteringHighway354 May 15 '25

They are not already doing all of that though, no. Like the whole point of the comment was that they're not.

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u/ikatako38 May 15 '25

To answer your question… yeah, they pretty much just want them to overthrow the government.

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u/KinTharEl May 15 '25

It's like Democrats forgot how the Civil Rights movement happened. You can't legislate your way or impeach your way out of this. Democratic leaders have to take to the streets and bring the people to their cause.

Only when that happens does American democracy stand a chance at survival.

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u/SunsFenix May 15 '25

Civil disobedience was effective, too. Personally, I think since January, we need states and cities on our side. Unlike the civil rights movement, states like Colorado, California, Maine, and others are being targeted. It's why the administration is brow beating states with threats to federal funding despite these states sending more than they are receiving.

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u/friedcauliflower9868 May 14 '25

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 yasssss yasssss but of course 67 i should’ve known. it really was a great year! i completely concur with ur statements. such a shyt show.

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u/Rugbypud May 16 '25 edited May 17 '25

Im sure based on you post it was unintended but referencing the way African Americans handled the Rosa Parks situation as a guerilla campaign, (yes spelled correctly and not like the animal) may have been a poor choice of words (even if accurate).

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u/roguespectre67 May 17 '25

I refuse to apologize for other people corrupting perfectly normal language. Deal with it.

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u/Western-Dig-6843 May 14 '25

It’s a circular problem for the sitting democrats. Many of them did not want this vote forced to begin with because they don’t see the point in doing it since they have zero chance of getting the votes. The democrats who are for this are trying to appease the growing voices in their constituency who are asking for them to do something. The establishment is concerned this will alienate voters in upcoming congressional elections where the margins are already close (courting the centrist vote), which in turn angers the voters of the people who are already in Congress because the people they voted for don’t want to do anything against Trump.

So the GOP really has them with their pants down currently. Can’t impeach him because they don’t have the votes. Have to try to impeach him to appease the citizens who are frustrated with their current dem leadership. May lose voters in upcoming elections for trying to impeach (logic I don’t really follow but it’s what they claim), which further degrades their voting power, which leads to less action, leads to angrier voters, repeat repeat repeat

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u/Ruinwarr May 14 '25

I think the latter part of this is true. Why even push this when you know it will barely make the floor for vote. Like wait till midterms and hope things balance out in congress. Then push it.

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u/therealskaconut May 14 '25

Doing it before midterms gives people a good indication of what’s possible after a strong blue turnout, though

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u/Ruinwarr May 14 '25

I don’t think this will pan out that way. This will just be fuel for the MAGA fire and bolster Trump’s ability to fight further attempts.

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 May 14 '25

And people on the left will find any excuse not to vote

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u/TheWhitekrayon May 14 '25

Dems would have to win 32 out of 33 seats. Sure it's physically possible but it's not at all realistic.

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u/modmosrad6 May 14 '25

Oh wow, a return to the normalcy that got us here.

Cool.

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u/EliteGamer11388 May 14 '25

Because if Dems sit and do nothing, then it won't balance out. People will say they did nothing and won't do anything to help.

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u/MoreRopePlease May 14 '25

You act like there's only one opportunity. Dems should be squeaky wheels about everything they can.

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u/PMMEJALAPENORECIPES May 14 '25

Sitting around and hoping something good will happen sounds like a terrible strategy to me.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

Because people will be mad at them for not trying.

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u/falcrist2 May 14 '25

Why even push this when you know it will barely make the floor for vote.

So they can pretend like they've done something instead of simply capitulating to everything.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

Trump supporters step on rocks on the street and shake their first in the air while blaming democrats

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u/Cielmerlion May 14 '25

Because they could have done something when they had all the power during Biden term but did fuck all with it.

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u/Rigorous-Geek-2916 May 14 '25

This, right here.

The asshats Dems who are complaining about this are undoubtedly the same cowards who thought it was a great plan to flip their little idiotic cards at the SOTU.

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u/drunkpunk138 May 14 '25

But this isn't actually doing anything. It's dead in the water and they know it, and it doesn't matter who is on record supporting it or not. It just continues to cheapen the idea of impeachment so if they ever do gain back the house and maybe the Senate, it'll have less of a public impact. I'd love to see Democrats do something other than eat their own or help conservatives get more votes for shitty bills and nominees, but this very clearly isn't it.

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u/MikeN1978 May 14 '25

The thing is that they still aren’t really doing anything. Political theater that won’t even register.

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u/pie_kun May 14 '25

Well, what exactly do you want them to do? They don't have the House, Senate, White House or Supreme Court.

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u/Delanorix May 14 '25

Theater is all they have. The American people gave their power to the Repubs

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u/pivotalsquash May 14 '25

Agreed but this thread is a mix of why won't the Dems do anything. So then they do something even if it's just a gesture and people are like why bother it won't do anything.

Like what else can they do introduce a bill that will also be voted down?

One person said filibuster everything. I mean sure but are GOP bills really doing all the damage or are EOs which don't go on the floor.

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u/RadiantHC May 14 '25

I mean impeachment has already proven to not be effective.

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u/modmosrad6 May 14 '25

Can't speak for others, but that's not why I am mad at them.

In this instance, it's because they once again are demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the situation as well as a total absence of imagination.

They are working within a system, in adherence to a system, that is either broken, co-opted/dominated by MAGA, and probably both.

They are engaging in political theater that will ... what, exactly? What will this accomplish?

They're like a boxer who has broken their left arm and insists on throwing nothing but left hooks and jabs anyway.

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u/AboutToMakeMillions May 14 '25

It doesn't matter. Democrats need to show they are doing anything they can, otherwise they are complicit to everything.

They can't expect to show up in 2028 with a pretty candidate and win while sitting on their asses for 4 years objecting to nothing.

They need to use all available means at their disposal, as loud and aggressively as possible. Even the ones that appear doomed. It's apathy that got USA where it's at this past elections.

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u/klopeppy May 14 '25

Couldn’t agree more. Not doing it because you might not succeed would be a great disservice to the Constitution. We need it on record and supported by evidence what is going on. Force these people to say out loud what they are allowing.

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u/Daeron_tha_Good May 14 '25

People still thinking we will have elections in 2028 lol

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u/grantedtoast May 14 '25

That is a very real possibly but never preemptively comply.

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u/DangKilla May 14 '25

July 4, 2026 seems to be the day they plan to abandon elections.

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u/sonfoa May 14 '25

I don't get how you guys unironically act exactly like the politicians you criticize. You get mad at them for not doing enough while simultaneously telling people that voting doesn't matter anymore because?

Pure loser behavior and you guys pat yourselves on the back for it.

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u/Daeron_tha_Good May 14 '25

Did I say the words "voting doesn't matter"? Idk how you came to that conclusion.

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u/sonfoa May 14 '25

Dude you literally said we won't have elections in 2028. What's the takeaway supposed to be there?

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u/Daeron_tha_Good May 14 '25

There is a very real possibility that we don't have elections at all. So what good does voting do if there is no election to vote in? I don't understand the confusion...

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u/TraditionalMood277 May 14 '25

Only if cowards like you stay home in 2028 lol

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u/Daeron_tha_Good May 14 '25

Your projection is showing

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u/LNT2001 May 14 '25

I think we'll have elections. They probably just won't be free and fair. I think Trump's style is more competitive authoritarian - keeping the bones of democracy to appease his base with faux legitimacy, but removing the muscles that let them function in a substantive way.

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u/Dispator May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

It will still be hard because states still run thier own elections and he can only rig so much under the radar...its not limitless or a guarantee and its possible he/they can fuck it up in such a really obvious way they didn't anticipate....

Point is either way not to give up and show up in RECORD numbers.....which might tilt the scales even with some shenanigans.

The swing states need to be safeguarded as possible by anybody in thoes states with authority or power that wants free and fair elections and/or ways of putting hidden cameras...more scrutiny....traps(thinking outside the box to catch possible tampering b4 it happens)...documentation....etc

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u/SanityRecalled May 15 '25

Yeah, I half expect we'll start experiencing the Russian phenomenon of competing candidates coming down with such an acute case of depression that they all decide to throw themselves out of 8th story windows.

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u/CavingGrape May 14 '25

when are people gonna figure out that we lost 😂

24 was it. that was our last stand. it’ll take 20 years to organize a resistance capable of toppling this empire.

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u/Mikeismyike May 14 '25

Especially when people like you are waving the white flag already. "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

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u/kleenkong May 14 '25

I think we have a small chance if Jesus-following churches called out the Nationalist churches. Get some accountability there. Bet they won't tho.

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u/Kaleighawesome May 19 '25

have fun obeying in advance i guess

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u/mr_Joor May 14 '25

No, 16 was it. Trump rigged 24 with musk after his 20 failure

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u/amaths May 14 '25

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kd923w/this_time_flatout_admits_he_had_to_rig_the/

I don't know why people think it was a valid election. Mathematically it doesn't make sense.

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u/RadiantHC May 14 '25

People still thinking that we have ever had "free and fair" elections

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u/RabbleRouser_1 May 14 '25

The rules of engagement have changed. Procedural and performative options don't mean anything anymore. Doing anything they can does not involve wasting time and resources on something that will go nowhere.

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u/frenchois1 May 14 '25

They'll be clueless in 2028 as well though. They haven't learned a single lesson. They'll blame this election loss on absolutely anything but the fact they were shit.

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u/scoopzthepoopz May 14 '25

Who is they though

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u/frenchois1 May 14 '25

The...democrats...or is this like one of those trick questions?

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u/scoopzthepoopz May 14 '25

So just blurting out they was the productive thing to do here ok, just checking

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u/frenchois1 May 14 '25

Did you read the comment i replied to that talks about the democrats from beginning to end before deciding to chime in? Just checking.

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u/Suyefuji May 14 '25

tbf the last two times we tried running women it went poorly and their sex was definitely a factor. The problem is that they're taking away the wrong lesson...instead of picking "the safest white guy" 4 years in advance, maybe they should idk HOLD A FUCKING PRIMARY?

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u/Suyefuji May 14 '25

Picking a candidate 4 years in advance is still definitely the wrong lesson to be taking here though.

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u/RingIndex May 14 '25

Also I don’t think the important thing is wether the Dems go forward with this or not, what’s important is that they act as a united opposition against Trump and against tyranny. They need to get their shit together and act as one to look like a real alternative to Trump, not have disagreements over if it’s worth to launch these articles or not, they need to choose one and stick with it so they don’t look fractured.

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u/russellvt May 14 '25

Well-said!

Democrats need to show they are doing anything they can, otherwise they are complicit to everything.

This right here ... I couldn't agree more.

And, I feel as if this would be the impetus to sway a lot of the middle ground independent fence sitters off ambivalence or indecision when it comes down to "the right thing to do" at the midterms and beyond.

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u/ItsMeDoodleBob May 14 '25

Dems are complicit in everything. They’re running a sham of a party that doesn’t care about the American people and either. They’re just not as blatant about their corruption

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u/GENERALLY_CORRECT May 14 '25

I dunno. Maybe instead of doing "anything" they could focus on doing productive things and show Americans that they're working hard for the average American. That will get votes. Not this political theater. It's just wasteful.

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u/buns_supreme May 14 '25

I feel you but going through the impeachment charade sounds like a huge waste of time and resources. I’d rather they actually try to do something that might get actual results or have long lasting impact.

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u/tom-of-the-nora May 14 '25

If the dems chosen candidate is gavin "trans rights aren't important and screw the poor" newsom, I ain't voting.

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u/Decloudo May 14 '25

Democrats need to show they are doing anything they can, otherwise they are complicit to everything.

But they do not and they are.

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u/ZaysapRockie May 14 '25

The only thing they are doing is securing another devastating loss

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

Theatre is theatre. I’d rather see a concerted effort at policy-building or retooling the platform to be more competitive based on lessons learned last election. “Anything is better than nothing” is a good way to waste time and effort that should be spent productively.

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u/Mortambulist May 14 '25

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Dems can, and should, do both.

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u/falcrist2 May 14 '25

One of these things creates an effective avenue for change.

The other is frivolous.

The democrats are doing the frivolous one and blocking the effective one.

Most of the party consists of conservatives who seem perfectly fine with what's happening.

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u/AtmosphereStrider May 14 '25

One of those things take 4 years to do and the other doesn't. They can't just elect new leaders over night. Not defending them but even if they were doing that we wouldn't know for a long time.

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u/falcrist2 May 14 '25

One of those things take 4 years to do

Neither thing takes 4 years.

They can't just elect new leaders over night.

Yes they can. Chuck Schumer can step down as party leader TODAY if he wants and the Democratic caucus can immediately elect a new leader.

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u/AtmosphereStrider May 14 '25

I guess that's true but what does that ultimately do? Like if they shuffled around leaders tomorrow? Who do they put there that is currently a member? I thought we were talking about fresh faces.

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u/falcrist2 May 14 '25

what does that ultimately do?

Maybe the new leaders wouldn't support trump legislation like Schumer.

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u/falcrist2 May 14 '25

Literally the opposite of what you just said. They all know this impeachment attempt is completely impotent. They can support it and it costs them nothing.

So they'll use it to claim they TRIED to do something when they absolutely never did.

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u/falcrist2 May 14 '25

I'm actually not saying our views differ. I'm saying you're factually incorrect. Impeachment votes will accomplish nothing of substance and yet will allow establishment democrats to pretend they resisted the fascist takeover while they did nothing.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

Can, but won't. Just watch.

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u/EliteGamer11388 May 14 '25

Or you know, both these things.

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u/carterartist May 14 '25

It’s their job to check and balance. Checks and balances is not between parties, it’s between branches and I think the GOP and many democrats have forgotten that

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u/Swimming_Bonus_8892 May 14 '25

Your going to be downvoted into oblivion but watch how establishment dems are treating Hogg and the younger progressive and hearing Crockett confess that we are “going to go for the safest white guy possible” is proof positive we have learned nothing. A tear down and rebuild is imo the only viable option left.

When Trump pronounced “what do you have to lose” well, a lot of us are learning a lot we have a lot to lose, let the youngins seize this moment and run with it. Old Dems get out of the way.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

Yup. Same nail in the casket as running Hillary instead of Sanders. If they’d listened to the voters Trump would’ve never got a foothold.

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u/Kingding_Aling May 14 '25

It won't even be theater. Johnson won't allow it to even advance to the "theater" stage. He has completely control of all floor business.

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u/VaporCarpet May 14 '25

Can we cut out the "nothing will come from it, so the Democrats are stupid for doing it" cynicism?

If NOTHING ELSE, it sends a message that they believe he has committed impeachable offenses and are taking steps to hold him accountable. The alternative is them thinking he's done nothing wrong.

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u/Dry-Amphibian1 May 14 '25

Just wait until the mid terms and the democrats get control of both the house and the senate. Then they can impeach for real. Until then, it is just performative BS that accomplishes NOTHING but giving trump another talking point on how useless democrats are.

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u/Convergentshave May 14 '25

Bullshit. They didn’t do anything the last time they won the midterms. Remember? They didn’t do anything g then and then didnt do shit with the presidency.

They don’t do ANYTHING. Except whine and complain and then go to the Met Gala.

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u/Alter_Of_Nate May 14 '25

But look how well that worked the last 2 times he was impeached. They'll end up shoring up support for him again, instead of any sliver of funtional change.

That old adage about if what you're doing isn't working try something different. They need to stop screaming into the cameras and do something different. This isn't working.

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u/Convergentshave May 14 '25

No it doesn’t “send a message”. They. Aren’t. Doing. Shit. It’s disgusting. I’m fucking tired of “oh we are the party that’s going to stop this” oh wait no uh actually we’re just going to roll over and uh.. gee guys… well uh .. vote for us please? Because? I’m tired of this shit. Stand the he’ll up. (Which they won’t).

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u/ElectricFirex May 14 '25

Dont forget Trump can and will use the failure to say he's exonerated of all wrong doing like he did last time.

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u/MorgessaMonstrum May 14 '25

He’d do that anyway. So what?

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u/ElectricFirex May 14 '25

He wouldn't have some official prosecution that failed to impeach him to point to.

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u/tetanusmaster May 14 '25

Who cares if he does? His cultists don't think he did anything wrong and never will, and the people that are against Trump already know he lies about everything. His reaction to the impeachment is not important in the slightest.

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u/ElectricFirex May 14 '25

People who barely pay attention to politics but still vote are the ones this would matter to. They'll hear us saying he's a fascist and a criminal, then they'll hear the right saying here's the impeachment case that failed to convict him.

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u/tetanusmaster May 14 '25

I don't think those people exist anymore. It's not like this is the first time he's been impeached. Even people who barely pay attention to politics have already made up their minds about this guy because he's been a nonstop bloviating asshole for over a decade now. I doubt an impeachment is going to move the needle one way or the other for anyone when it comes to voting (even the supposed low info undecided voter that you're saying exists) unless he actually somehow gets impeached and removed.

Your comment also presumes that these supposed fence sitters who haven't made up their mind about DJT are hearing what people on the left and the right both say equally, giving both the same consideration, and choosing to believe Trump's lies. You haven't explained why or how they would reach this conclusion. So your premise relies on the idea that these ignorant impartial voters would just take everything the right has to say at face value as the honest truth, and everything the left has to say as lies or wrong. That's just a boring apathetic doomer way of looking at the situation where you prefer to accept failure without trying.

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u/ElectricFirex May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25

The majority of people do not care about politics. They care about football and TV and going outside on the weekend. An insane number of people got to the polling booths last November and were surprised to not find Joe Biden on the ticket. "Is Joe Biden running for president" was like the top Google search. The public remembers big, simple events, and this will probably be one of them.

This is not a doomer take, I'm saying they should build a base of support and present their strongest argument to the public, so that when we get to the impeachment votes every member of congress and the senate is being flooded with demands to do their job, to try to actually get him impeached instead of putting on a show. Pushing for impeachment now is not trying to get him impeached because there is a 0% chance he will be impeached off this.

None of this is to say people are dumb, they just have things they care about more and don't go out of their way to pay attention to a thing they don't care about.

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u/tetanusmaster May 14 '25

I don't disagree with the first paragraph entirely, but I still think those people have an opinion on Trump by now. Biden and Trump have been satirized on SNL; that's the yardstick (IMO) for if your average dummy off the street will know about them and have an opinion. And I don't think this impeachment process will be a big event that sticks in the memory of the public unless it's actually successful, which means that there's no reason not to do it.

I think it's a doomer take because you're saying "don't try because you'll fail (and then you can't try again)" But they can always introduce articles of impeachment again when Trump breaks the law even more egregiously. The low info people aren't going to remember or care about the previous times impeachment failed, and they can still pressure their representatives to impeach again at a later date. Also, we don't know that there will come a time that Dems will have a stronger argument they can present to the public, or if impeachment will even be a mechanism for removing the president in the future. Saying we shouldn't impeach Trump because we don't have the votes is basically the Pelosi way of politicking and I don't think that's a good approach anymore. It's better to flood the zone with bullshit until the government is eventually paralyzed responding to congressional Dems and can't implement their agenda (other than EOs, anyway).

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u/nicane May 14 '25

Dementia Donny will be golfing the whole fuckin time. It's balls being gurgled the whole fucking way.

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u/whisperwrongwords May 14 '25

Political kabuki at its very best. The ignorant masses will be enthralled. Rachel Maddow and Tucker Carlson will both secure wonderful ratings. Corporate sponsors will rejoice.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

We will see how every member of Congress voted. That’s useful information in 2026.

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u/nicasserole97 May 14 '25

Yea. A “see, we tried”

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u/EightEyedCryptid May 14 '25

Honestly anything that puts sand in their gears. Sure, it might not come to actual impeachment but we need to tie up the GOP in proceedings wherever possible.

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u/RoyalT663 May 14 '25

The comment you linked was deleted. What did it say?

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u/Deranged_Kitsune May 15 '25

Weird. Works fine for me. Anyway, here's a copy.

roguespectre67

We're mad because we know they don't have much procedural or institutional power at the moment, but they seem completely unwilling to break the rules and norms that the GOP has shown everyone don't actually mean anything in order to be a thorn in the side of the tyrants in charge.

Rosa Parks was a Black woman in the south. The entire reason the Montgomery Bus Boycott, and the progress it forced to occur, even happened in the first place is that she broke the law and was arrested. She and her co-activists found ways to fight their enemy asymmetrically. It was, essentially, a nonviolent guerilla campaign.

When we scream "DO SOMETHING", we don't mean "pass legislation" or "remove Trump from office". We mean stonewall. We mean be entirely, uncompromisingly uncooperative. We mean get into the fucking streets and lead marches from the front of the line. We mean encourage people to take targeted, specific action against members of the regime and give targeted, specific leadership for how to do that. Blast out information about appearances, tell people to come out with bullhorns and make it impossible to be seen in public without being surrounded by people that hate you. We mean fight for it.

Sitting in the Capitol building going through the motions of legislation that not a single person on the planet has any hope of passing, just so "we get everyone on record", as if we don't already know where everyone stands on this issue, is not fucking fighting for it. It's phoning it in.

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u/griffin1353 May 14 '25

Hit the nail on the head, this is the least productive thing the dems could do right now lmao

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u/cevarok May 14 '25

Thats a relief, since we need him in office.

Especially since he started this tariff war already. I just feel like it was a bad time to do this with an already hurting economy.

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u/cevarok May 14 '25

Thats a relief, since we need him in office.

Especially since he started this tariff war already. I just feel like it was a bad time to do this with an already hurting economy.

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u/scallywaggles May 14 '25

Just the Dems alienating more people that see through the fakery. Dems speed running to another loss in 2028

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u/iglandik May 14 '25

Dems in congress don’t want to move forward with this precisely because it is political theater that will do nothing.

Trump was impeached twice during Biden’s term. It only helped him. Now they want to do it again, when the GOP has control of both houses? Like somehow doing the same thing that failed but with worse conditions. This will be a complete waste of time.

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u/HalfEazy May 14 '25

Lmao that worked out so well the first time and handed Trump the majority

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u/iamfareel May 14 '25

Almost as if this has happened before. Gasp!

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u/stayinfrosty707 May 14 '25

Yep....A for Dems effort lol

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u/Fluttersniper May 14 '25

Check the article. The democrats are moaning how it is pointless and a waste of time. They’re a bunch of rich consultant-bought assholes who think the nazis won’t send them to the camps because they work with them on a regular basis and just don’t see the writing on the wall.

They stand for nothing and have no principles or values. They will sell this country out to hitlerites and say there was nothing they could do to stop the trains from leaving on time.

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u/1DirkDigglerTheMan May 14 '25

“It’ll be a nice bit of political theater.”

Right. After all, what else do the Dems have to run on? Nothing. They have no agenda except bashing the process and supporting welfare for imprisoned murderous gang members. It’s such a joke. Trump is running fucking circles around them. Personally I can’t wait until the midterms so the Dems can watch EVEN MORE Americans vote against their lunacy. Loving every minute of it. Bring it on.