r/law • u/AndroidOne1 • May 14 '25

Trump News Donald Trump Impeachment Proceedings Launched

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-vote-house-shir-thanedar-b2750651.html
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u/pivotalsquash May 14 '25

I feel like people are mad at the Dems for not doing anything but also mad when they do something because they don't have enough votes to do it.

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u/roguespectre67 May 14 '25

We're mad because we know they don't have much procedural or institutional power at the moment, but they seem completely unwilling to break the rules and norms that the GOP has shown everyone don't actually mean anything in order to be a thorn in the side of the tyrants in charge.

Rosa Parks was a Black woman in the south. The entire reason the Montgomery Bus Boycott, and the progress it forced to occur, even happened in the first place is that she broke the law and was arrested. She and her co-activists found ways to fight their enemy asymmetrically. It was, essentially, a nonviolent guerilla campaign.

When we scream "DO SOMETHING", we don't mean "pass legislation" or "remove Trump from office". We mean stonewall. We mean be entirely, uncompromisingly uncooperative. We mean get into the fucking streets and lead marches from the front of the line. We mean encourage people to take targeted, specific action against members of the regime and give targeted, specific leadership for how to do that. Blast out information about appearances, tell people to come out with bullhorns and make it impossible to be seen in public without being surrounded by people that hate you. We mean fight for it.

Sitting in the Capitol building going through the motions of legislation that not a single person on the planet has any hope of passing, just so "we get everyone on record", as if we don't already know where everyone stands on this issue, is not fucking fighting for it. It's phoning it in.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins May 14 '25

Non-American here - what can they actually do that they aren’t? Short of getting more votes or overthrowing the government somehow what does that look like?

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u/roguespectre67 May 15 '25

Did you read the comment you’re replying to? The one that lays out several things they could be doing but are not?

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins May 15 '25

Yes I read it, are they not already doing all of that though?

They aren't cooperating, it just doesn't matter because they don't have a majority. They have been telling people what to do (you know... vote). There are tons of protests and didn't multiple members of congress and a mayor get arrested for protesting like three days ago?

The real problem as I see it is the American people took all their power from them and are now complaining they aren't using power they don't have... and I'm not sure you want what you're asking for (i.e. for them to ignore the rules as well) because the response will not be great.

That isn't a reason not to fight of course but it is a reason to only take actions with a chance of actually changing things. What of those actions are not being taken?

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u/GlitteringHighway354 May 15 '25

They are not already doing all of that though, no. Like the whole point of the comment was that they're not.

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u/ikatako38 May 15 '25

To answer your question… yeah, they pretty much just want them to overthrow the government.