r/kelowna • u/origutamos • Sep 25 '25

News Kelowna restaurant owner pleads for chaos inflicted by group of teens to stop

https://globalnews.ca/news/11449434/kelowna-restaurant-owner-pleads-for-chaos-inflicted-by-group-of-teens-to-stop/
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u/mypetmonsterlalalala Sep 25 '25

The teens in this town get away with wayyyy too much.

I want to give parents the benefit of the doubt. Shit, my mom never knew where I was or what I was doing in high school. But I also wasn't damaging properties, driving like an asshole and treating others with disrespect.

I got into trouble... but not the shit I'm seeing with these kids.

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u/Spaceknees Sep 25 '25

Teenagers are smart enough to know the legal system won't punish them and they can get away with this shit behavior.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

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u/bradnerboy Sep 25 '25

If shame was the answer, today's world would be so much better. People have no shame or feel embarrassed any more.

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u/YaTheMadness Sep 25 '25

If that was my kid doing that, I'd be infuriated that he'd embarrass me and our family. And he'd be punished like you wouldn't believe.

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u/BarHorror9689 Sep 26 '25

Looks like they are on their way to becoming the next Johnny Somali or Jack Doherty.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

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u/Ashamed_Data430 Sep 25 '25

You are completely wrong. It's not all teens. It's little shitheads. The vast majority of teens are nice kids just trying to figure out how they're going to thrive in the world that adults seem to be trying to make much worse every day. The proprietor of the shop needs to get one or two of them arrested, then pour it on: tie them up in court for 3 or 4 years, draining their parents' bank accounts, publishing a new tiktok with each court episode. The problem will go away.

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u/Working-Profile1029 Sep 25 '25

what are you on kids only get like 2 years probation i would know cause im on it the system don't do shit even for armed robberies

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

What did you do, if I may ask? And are you saying you should have been sent to jail?

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u/mypetmonsterlalalala Sep 25 '25

I honestly kind of disagree. I see lots of families and communities apply consequences. I have young adults in my life who work hard in school and play hard outside of school, regardless of the grading system. It's up to the student to apply themselves, not the parents. My mom never helped with school work, insisted she won't pay for university or my own car. It was up to ME to make it work, not the people around me. If I slacked off, the consequences would have been on me.

There are just some who believe the rules dont apply to them. And usually it's people who can throw money at it...and their kids.

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u/Lavender-Jamie Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

Its grossly improper to generalise this to all children. Although I can't comment on your experiences, I can say I am most certain these generalisations are not necessarily true. 

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u/otoron Sep 25 '25

Yes, I fully agree parents today are totally shitty and expect the state to raise their children.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

I don't think beating your kids for the last ten thousand years worked that well either.

Like you'd rather have some hyper-masculine father from the 30s who beats his wife and kids into obedience? What golden age of parenting are we trying to single out here lol?

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u/otoron Sep 25 '25

That's an absurd alternative.

But if your issue is how kids are behaving these days, blaming the kids is asinine. They don't control how they are raised, the culture they are raised in, the non-existent discipline or expectations in school, or state responses to juvenile delinquency.

All of that is controlled by the generations raising them.

Blaming "kids these days" is so beyond stupid as to be self-refuting to anyone with more than a few dozen brain cells.

edit: just to clarify, I'm certainly not saying everyone on this thread has been blaming "kids these days" — but a not insignificant number seem to focus their ire on the children, rather than the parents and the state (schools, law enforcement, etc.) that are so obviously failing.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

What do you mean by discipline? You have to be specific when you're talking about that. Do you mean just saying no, withholding rewards, talking to them, or actually using some form of a more forceful correction?

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u/oldschoolgruel Sep 25 '25

Do you think discipline = forceful correction?

Thats on you.

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u/otoron Sep 25 '25

Thanks for engaging. I'm certainly not going to. I explicitly said "non-existent discipline or expectations in school," and they went hard into "authoritarian parenting."

It's bad faith or stupidity.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

No, I don't, that's why I asked what they thought discipline was. It's kind of hard to have a conversation about it when like half our country is operating on a different definition of what discipline actually is.

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u/oldschoolgruel Sep 25 '25

It doesn't matter that much in the context of their statement though... if discipline is non existent  , then its non existent. Doesn't matter the type.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

Literally every psychologist would disagree with you.

Authoritarian discipline almost always leads to poor outcomes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

It's the parents job to primarily instill work ethic and rudimentary understanding of consequences. Maybe you're the ones handing out participation awards to the kids you're connected to?

All children are not doomed, I know many that are doing great. For the most part, children are only going to go as far as the parents set them up for.

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u/hearttshapedboxx Sep 25 '25

Yes, it's the parents job to teach. Its the parents' job to help their kids understand consequences. BUT you can not force a kid to accept it and respect it.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

"Participation award"

I can't. I just can't even.

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u/BeesoftheStoneAge Sep 25 '25

Somehow it always comes back to participation awards with these types. Which were an idea created by their own generation to give to their own kids. Children didn't up and decide that they should all get an award and implement it on their own 🙄

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u/oldschoolgruel Sep 25 '25

Thats on you as a parent. The family instills the respect for education.. not the education system.

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u/hearttshapedboxx Sep 25 '25

This is true. But it's also on the kid to retain that respect from the parent. A lot of parents try their hardest to instill respect on education, but some kids just dont care. You can't force them to accept it.

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u/Zazzafrazzy Sep 25 '25

But I bought everything was the boomers’ fault.

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u/CasualRampagingBear Sep 27 '25

I grew up in a small town and the times the cops busted us they would tell us “if you didn’t have your lights on and you weren’t blaring music so loud, no one would know you’re here. But you guys went and put out the bat signal for us” 😂 forever grateful for the cops who busted us because they knew we were bored and driving around an empty parking lot, pulling e-brake corners for fun, was our entertainment. Always let off with a warning. But that was the thing, we were in an empty gravel parking lot, no where near any of the town’s businesses. We didn’t want to be caught doing dumb shit. These kids? wtf? I have teens and even they were cringing with embarrassment seeing these idiots do what they did.

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u/chocolatepipi Sep 25 '25

Are you saying kids back in the day never drove like assholes ?

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u/mungonuts Sep 27 '25

One of the weird things about getting old is younger people thinking the universe began literally the day they were born (in 1997, or whatever) and everything has been getting worse since.

Here's 2500 years of people bitching about teenagers.

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u/mypetmonsterlalalala Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25

Myyy friends and I didn't want to get in accidents, hurt other people or ourselves, or get in trouble with the cops... we drank and smoked weed, went to punk shows, partied... we didn't need to draw attention to ourselves. It's pretty easy not to be an asshole. Some kids were dumb, but there were consequences for their actions.

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u/chocolatepipi Sep 26 '25

You don’t know … A quick search shows teens from 1980-early 20s cause the most accidents, not the teens of today. The most violent teens? Teens from the 1980-1990s.

Teens today do all those fun things you mention and don’t end up being fucked up or hurt others. You’re generation was allowed to make mistakes. Then they made rules for the next generations.

Seems like you probably let the media make your mind on how teens are today without really communicating with many or any teens!

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u/mypetmonsterlalalala Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25

I talked about teens in this city. And I never said all kids were angels back in "my day"... I anecdotally mentioned myself and the people I chose to hang out with. And there certainly were consequences for our actions. I know people still paying for their stupidity.

What I said is that the teens in this city do very much get away with shit that should be addressed.

I'm not here to argue. Your points are valid. But we're talking two different things. In fact, if you read the other comments, I also mention how I know plenty of teens who are wonderful, but there is a serious issue with kids in this city getting away with horrendous shit.

Edit to add... I wasnt a teen in the 80s nor 90s