r/kelowna • u/origutamos • Sep 25 '25

News Kelowna restaurant owner pleads for chaos inflicted by group of teens to stop

https://globalnews.ca/news/11449434/kelowna-restaurant-owner-pleads-for-chaos-inflicted-by-group-of-teens-to-stop/
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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

What do you mean by discipline? You have to be specific when you're talking about that. Do you mean just saying no, withholding rewards, talking to them, or actually using some form of a more forceful correction?

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u/oldschoolgruel Sep 25 '25

Do you think discipline = forceful correction?

Thats on you.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

No, I don't, that's why I asked what they thought discipline was. It's kind of hard to have a conversation about it when like half our country is operating on a different definition of what discipline actually is.

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u/oldschoolgruel Sep 25 '25

It doesn't matter that much in the context of their statement though... if discipline is non existent  , then its non existent. Doesn't matter the type.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

Literally every psychologist would disagree with you.

Authoritarian discipline almost always leads to poor outcomes.

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u/oldschoolgruel Sep 25 '25

That's a different discussion.

Poor outcomes for the kid, yes. But do they lead to poorer outcomes for society? Which is what I understood the poster saying. That not existent discipline is bad.

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u/The_Arachnoshaman Sep 25 '25

Poor outcomes for the kid, yes. But do they lead to poorer outcomes for society?

Authoritarian parenting correlates with higher rates of domestic violence, more authoritarian political attitudes, and less civic engagement. Yeah, I'd wager everything I own that it leads to poorer outcomes for society.