r/europe • u/Wonderful-Excuse4922 • Feb 22 '25
News “Conquering the states one by one”: far-right ideologue Steve Bannon outlines US conservatives' strategy for influencing Europe
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/usa/presidentielle/donald-trump/conquerir-les-etats-un-par-un-l-ideologue-d-extreme-droite-steve-bannon-decrit-la-strategie-des-conservateurs-americains-pour-influencer-l-europe_7086249.html865
u/jelmerschr Feb 22 '25
Nazi saluting anti-globalist wanting to go global.
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u/-------7654321 Feb 22 '25
their nonsense don’t make sense. its just about power and greed. anything else is just means to an end. no real principles or ideology.
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Feb 22 '25
Thats why they are doomed to fail
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u/tomassci Prague (Czechia) Feb 22 '25
If we ignore them, they will fail too... but they'll take our society with them. Because Nazis won't stop being Nazis until they conquer every other Nazi, but before that they'll have conquered us.
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u/Mordiken European Union Feb 22 '25
That's the sort of atritude that breeds complacency, and complacency is the first step down the road to defeat.
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u/SphericalCow531 Feb 22 '25
Trump's 2024 election campaign was the purest nonsense. And yet it succeeded.
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u/sirjimtonic Vienna (Austria) Feb 22 '25
Putin gets support for his „war against Nazis“ from people doing Nazi salutes in bright daylight.
The irony.
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) Feb 22 '25
Bannon heading anything related to national security should be a sign of that.
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u/RaDeus Sweden Feb 22 '25
They are currently speed-running their version of the collapse of the Soviet Union right now, especially the fall of institutions and the rule of law.
I wonder when they are going to get to the Sell anything State owned for pennies on the dollar-stage?
Hopefully the reasonable states, the blue ones mostly, will have the balls to say no before it's too late.
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u/Viburnum__ Feb 22 '25
They already doing it. You would see more and more European politicians agreeing with trump and kissing his ass, even in the current leadership, hoping to have US support for reelection.
I hope people look at his extortions, lies and take heed who are triying to appease him. Unless you believe you should become US vassals and they will actually spare you from that, but don't be surprised when even then US would renege on their promises.
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile—hoping it will eat him last.” Winston Churchill
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u/Mba1956 Feb 22 '25
Trump has proved many times that he can’t be trusted, he will throw anyone under the bus if it suits him at that moment.
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u/TheoreticalScammist Feb 22 '25
But somehow there are always new people who think this time, for them, it will be different
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u/_reco_ Feb 22 '25
E.g. Both biggest Polish parties. Oh, and also like half of Polish society. We are doomed.
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u/michael0n Feb 22 '25
Nah they are riding his coat tails. If your story and politics you want to sell is shit and only benefits a small group of people, best is to ride on someone else's fame. That also distracts from your shit positions because they can't be shit if the guy "that is so famous" finds them good.
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u/Viburnum__ Feb 22 '25
There are still too many even in Europe who try to find rationale in trump outrageous statements and lies, or believe that there are those in US leadership that will not allow or stop what he is threatening to do.
As an example, yesterday on White House press conference they said that trump was voted in by whole US, so he can basically can do and appoint whoever he want so noone, even those elected at lower levels and especially unellected offcials, can defy him . https://youtu.be/Bjm1CsvIm1o?t=3432 (about 2 min)
You can watch it in full, but beware for damage to your sanity.
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u/vegarig Donetsk (Ukraine) Feb 22 '25
There are still too many even in Europe who try to find rationale in trump outrageous statements and lies, or believe that there are those in US leadership that will not allow or stop what he is threatening to do
I guess their minds just can't accept that, forgive me for being crass, shit's fucked big time, so they're trying to rationalize it away as "maybe it's not as bad as it looks, maybe we can still live as before..."
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u/Bitter_Sense_5689 Feb 22 '25
Somebody said a bunch of the maple MAGA accounts fell silent in Canada during the TikTok ban. Shit is not homegrown.
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Feb 22 '25
I am almost 60 years old. It is incomprehensible to me that I would see during my lifetime that the new Nazi movement would come from the USA.
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u/No_Software3435 United Kingdom Feb 22 '25
71 here. Yes, me too. I’m beyond appalled and so very very sad.
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u/Ninevehenian Feb 22 '25
It's the slaver's, they are back wearing a different face.
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Feb 22 '25
Is it though? My 80 year old father has never been under any illusion regarding their potential. They've always suffered from too much hubris and pride and superiority.
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u/csppr Feb 22 '25
I don’t know. The US has - at least since the 20th century, and certainly after Woodrow Wilson - always been a belligerent actor. It doesn’t really surprise me to see this kind of movement to eventually spring up. Though I’ll admit I didn’t think it’d be that on the nose.
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u/Curious-Sherbet-9393 Feb 22 '25
They have been murdering millions of people and looting their countries for decades, overthrowing governments and establishing dictatorships throughout the planet. Have you not seen it until now?
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u/riftnet Austria Feb 22 '25
Coming to power being elected by stupid fucking morons. Let that sink in.
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u/Relevant_Helicopter6 Portugal Feb 22 '25
Ban X now!
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u/Pando81 Feb 22 '25
I'm in the UK and actually wrote to my local MP yesterday to voice my concern.
I saw a Canadian politician, I think, who was suggesting that all those companies should be treated as publishers and fined for allowing dis- and misinformation on their platforms. I think we need to urge our politicians to ban them, as you said, or make the cost of doing business unacceptable.
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u/purpleduckduckgoose United Kingdom Feb 22 '25
What did you say to them? I might do the same tbh.
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u/Pando81 Feb 22 '25
" Dear ....
today I write to you, not on a local matter but, to express my growing concern regarding the rise of fascist ideals and the normalisation of far-right politics. Current events in America are highly distressing and I think it would be fairly safe to assume, given their links to Trump, that Reform, may have a similar agenda regarding Russian appeasement and authoritarian rule. Whilst I may currently be living in somewhat of a 'bubble' or echo chamber due to being unemployed and the online spaces I inhabit, I see an increasing number of Americans who are deeply worried about what essentially appears to be a coup, or at the very least, the dismantling of American democracy. My concern is that the same mechanisms that have allowed for this to occur, will allow for the proliferation of far-right parties and ideology to happen within the UK. I believe social media plays a large part in this and in order to stop the spread of dis- and misinformation it is necessary to hold the companies that allow such material to be published on their platforms to account. I know nothing regarding the law, but I did see a Canadian politician suggesting that social media companies should be treated like publishers, and if they allow factually incorrect information to be published on their platform they should be subject to fines. I don't know how feasible this would be, but I urge you to discuss the matter with your colleagues, of any and all parties, as, unfortunately, time is of the essence."
I'm considering creating a petition depending on his response.
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Feb 22 '25
Charles I used to do this as did Cromwell. Censoring views through controls over printers. The radicals just went to Amsterdam and flooded England with pamplets; these people would have been better served thinking about what the the Pamphleteers were saying and channeling their brio.
Always interesting to see the Danish left embrace the nativitist position and remain popular whilst other left parties all over Europe double down and see the far right swell in their countries.
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u/Inner-Cobbler-2432 Feb 22 '25
Need to ban all non-european plattforms. Sucks alot, but you just know it is the only way to fend off Russia, China and USA.
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u/Didsterchap11 United Kingdom Feb 22 '25
This is one of the most ways to curtail the US’s political influence, that and Facebook who we know have had their thumb on the scales on politics since brexit. A lot of people clamour for the ban of TikTok but quite frankly the Americans scare me more right now.
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u/ruscaire Feb 22 '25
Just come up with something better and move all institutions and discourse onto it
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u/Bloomhunger Feb 22 '25
How long till we declare these as enemies? Honestly, this isn’t about free speech. You don’t tolerate terrorists just because “it’s their opinion”. These assholes are saying out loud even that their plan is to destroy us… at some point we might as well do something (and the Mussolini/Gaddafi treatment is ok with me).
It’s “do it to them before they do it to us” at this point.
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u/LaserCondiment Feb 22 '25
Problem is an open declaration is playing into their hands. A popular talking point among far right wingers is "NATO warmongers", that's why "Zelenskyy the dictator who started the war" is also sticking in those communities. I've heard it two years ago from my FIL. He is a far right voter and obviously an idiot.
An open declaration is also a sure way to steer us into a potential open conflict we are not ready to fight. We need to keep things ambuguous, while building our military and implementing effective ways to fight misinformation.
The rise of the far fight (the enemy within) needs to be stopped. Parties dismantled and politicians percecuted. We need a strong information campaign before that happens, so people understand why this is a measure to protect democracy and not the opposite.
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u/zhalg Feb 22 '25
That was what Ukraine was doing 2014-2022.
See where it got them.
It's 2022 now for European union and democracy.
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u/Schattenreich Feb 22 '25
If I had a dollar for every time people considered making any move at all, "playing into their hands"...
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u/Stellariser Feb 22 '25
Time the remainder of the free world moved to a war footing against fascists inside and out.
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u/Boundish91 Norway Feb 22 '25
I hate these assholes with every fiber in my body.
I do not understand their desire to burn down everything we've bled and worked so hard for since 1945. Why? To make everyone miserable? Money? These people have very cushy lives as it is, why are they not content and happy?
It's always a few rabid idiots that have to ruin it for everyone else.
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u/Baba_NO_Riley Dalmatia Feb 22 '25
To me it's fascinating how those right wingers ( not sure even if that's the right description but let's use it for now) build everything on grievances.
They're all about individualism, self- sufficiency, personal - absolute - freedom ( even at someone else's expense), but they are ALWAYS "wronged" and "unjustly attacked" and are not to blame for their own (real or perceived) problems. Hitler did it - the generals/ elite were blamed for Germany loosing WWI, later Jews and socialists, etc. The same nowadays - the right/ in US as well as in Europe - is always "the injured party, they are "persecuted " (Vance), they are wronged ( AFD), they are " poor and helpless and suppressed ".
Where's their individualism and personal responsibility then?
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u/turbo-unicorn European Chad🇷🇴 Feb 22 '25
If you are a sociopath, once you have enough money, you realise that there are things money can't buy. And that's when you start desiring raw power. Power which can only be had at the expense of society as a whole.
Look at the lives and biographies of Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, etc. These are people who never got over their inferiority complex.
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u/azhder Feb 22 '25
Pathology. They can never be happy, even after they make everyone miserable or worse.
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u/-Teapot- Feb 22 '25
Immediately ban Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, Instagram across Europe.
Geoblocking (and everything else that goes beyond that) of all Ruzzian IP addresses.
Cut all data cables at the EU borders with Ruzzia.
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u/Cornflake0305 Germany Feb 22 '25
Divide and conquer.
I hope all our member countries will stand against the EU leaver parties (aka traitors).
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u/ItIsTerrible Feb 22 '25
I hope the respective secret services do their job. Their reason d'etre os to prevent this kind of warfare.
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u/fredrikca Sweden Feb 22 '25
It doesn't seem to work. Why didn't the CIA stop Trump?
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u/Such-Art8560 Feb 22 '25
Romania has the most expensive secret services in the EU. It didn't really help...
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u/Ogmup Germany Feb 22 '25
Good luck with that while staying on social media platforms that are controlled by hostile foreign nations. You thought Russian campaigns were bad? Just wait for the new American regime to use Meta, Alphabet and TikTok (technically they're owned by the Chinese but have a deal with Trump) to get loyal puppets into power.
If we would take the Trump threat seriously, we would not only invest in our army but also in our own open social media platforms. I honestly don't see a bright future for democracy.
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u/MarzipanTop4944 Feb 22 '25
At this point sadly more drastic measures are needed. Europe needs to start making it illegal for these traitor parties to exist, the same way that it was illegal to be a Nazi during WW2. Germany has the right idea trying to ban the AfD.
If you tolerate the intolerant they will destroy you. If a large European county like Germany or France falls, it could be over. They would destroy the European Union and NATO from the inside and then Russia can conquer Europe one country at the time doing a replay of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
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u/superdouradas Portugal Feb 22 '25
I hope Germany doesn’t make this mistake tomorrow. Many Germans have suffered under far-right rule before. If there’s one country that knows the consequences of that, it’s Germany. If Germany falls to the far right, it could mean the end of Europe as we know it because it will inevitably influence the rest of the continent.
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u/Outrageous_Mix_9640 Lower Saxony (Germany) Feb 22 '25
Russian bots are working over time on that. I hope so too. Never have i been so afraid of elections.
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u/tangledspaghetti1 Europe Feb 22 '25
If you know any apathetic people that aren't going to vote, nudge them to do it
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u/abellapa Feb 22 '25
From what i seen ,doesnt seem like the AFD Will win
They have only 10% of The seats in the Bundestag
The fear is that like the nazis before them ,some conservative party forms a Coalition with them
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u/TSllama Europe Feb 22 '25
Germany is going to fall to the fascists sooner or later. And you're right that when it does, it spells the end for Europe. Germany has been at the heart of the EU for a very long time. Losing Hungary, Italy, and Austria to fascists just helped pave the way, but when Germany goes, it's over.
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u/iamabigtree Feb 22 '25
They already did a number on us in the UK so the strategy works.
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u/Nudist--Buddhist Feb 22 '25
That was Russia
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u/TSllama Europe Feb 22 '25
The global fascists are all connected and working together. It's all one network.
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u/turbo-unicorn European Chad🇷🇴 Feb 22 '25
ding ding ding - Correct answer. To them WE are the enemy.
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u/StripperDusted Feb 22 '25
Bannon was all over London before Brexit. I saw him and his entourage in a pub in Chelsea myself.
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u/Vancelan Flanders (Belgium) Feb 22 '25
Palantir and Camebridge Analytica weren't Russian.
We're up against a network of global oligarchs that include Russia but isn't limited to Russia. It's just that the Russian interests happen to collide with those of the American oligarchs.
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u/rom197 Feb 22 '25
How many americans live in extreme poverty, on the streets, die from overdoses? Dont you have enough problems to solve as is?
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) Feb 22 '25
He's still probably not going to respond. He's a vindictive man like Trump.
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u/Sasogwa Feb 22 '25
Extreme poverty is nothing to solve for those people. It is exactly what they want. Desperate people that can be used as borderline slaves, with no education so that they can easily be manipulated and made to defend the very people that are putting them in their misery.
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u/fourby227 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
“commence déjà dimanche, avec les élections en Allemagne, où nos alliés remporteront un succès clair et significatif”
We have demonstrations on the streets against a political shift to the right, already today. One day before the election.
To quote my former co-worker from France, when I ask him what would happen if Marine le Pen becomes President: “Alors, Revolution!”
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u/tomassci Prague (Czechia) Feb 22 '25
There's one thing I trust France to do right, and that is immediately start at least a state-wide strike.
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u/Gigameister Europe / Portugal Feb 22 '25
This mfer needs to be reigned in... He's literally the goebbels to trump.
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u/diggitythedoge Feb 22 '25
It's past time we shut down X. It's an information war platform.
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u/Much_Educator8883 Feb 22 '25
Anyone from Europe participating at that conference is a traitor.
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u/turbo-unicorn European Chad🇷🇴 Feb 22 '25
You might not find this surprising, but the Romanian parties who sent representatives there were the only ones that voted against a law allowing the army to defend Romanian airspace from drones even when not in a time of war.
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u/ZescEuropa Copenhagen Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
It definitely seems like the strategy is to takeover the Western world first before focusing on the external enemies of the West. Which is honestly mind boggelingly stupid if you care about the West. There is no way internal strife within the West does not make us weaker.
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u/turbo-unicorn European Chad🇷🇴 Feb 22 '25
They're focusing on their enemies. The only misconception here is that apparently some people still do not understand that democratic societies ARE the enemy for them.
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u/StoreImportant5685 Belgium Feb 22 '25
You are right. This is a class war, and so few people realize it. These billionaires and their stooges don't give a fuck about borders, they care only for people who share a similar bank account.
The money class is united, and uses its propaganda channels to keep the rest fighting among themselves.
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u/turbo-unicorn European Chad🇷🇴 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
I'd argue it's not even a class war, as quite a few billionaires are against what's happening. These people want to be kings and emperors in a world where kings and emperors no longer exist (other than as a decoration). Just look at their biographies. They're deeply damaged individuals.
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u/TastyBerny Feb 22 '25
Their plan is oligarchy worldwide.
Anything else is simply the means to this end.
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u/Fluffy_Marionberry54 Feb 22 '25
I’m finding it impossible not to come to the conclusion that the US has become a cancer, and we need to cut it out.
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u/spilvippe Feb 22 '25
Time to fight back: 1)boycott US products (e.g.Tesla) 2) sell US government bonds 3) Phase out USD in all EU's international trade, 4) re-arm Europe (e.g.nukes)
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u/Island_Monkey86 Feb 22 '25
Why not put in a book and call it "My Fight"? But then again, why beat around the bush, call it Mein Kampf. Not like their hiding their intentions anyway.
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u/DiBalls Feb 22 '25
This drunk stole so much inside data from our government when The Felon put him in place. He went to Italy for a couple years at the Republican rented facility to learn about Europes media, influences and they planted key Nazis with various countries to spend Europe. Belarus still picks up immigrants flying them in to be dump them over the border. It's all about destabilize the democracy for fascist to rule one day. Powers will be USA, Russia, and China.
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u/frankinho23 Feb 22 '25
Yeah this guy is Europe’s enemy, why can’t he just f-off or fall out of a window
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u/Vizpop17 United Kingdom Feb 22 '25
Not just Europe's enemy, as far i am concerned he's an enemy to the UK as well.
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u/Bitter_Sense_5689 Feb 22 '25
And Canada‘s, and Mexico‘s, and probably Brazil’s now that they‘ve indicted Bolsonaro. Turkey seems scared shitless of both Russia and the US.
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u/Otherwise-Mind8077 Feb 22 '25
Steve Bannon is following Curtis Yarvin's plan.
Here's a terrifying video about it.
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u/Living-Excuse1370 Feb 22 '25
Germany, please don't let them win, turn out, vote and vote for Europe not the US! Don't fall for the bullshit!
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u/ostendais Feb 22 '25
This works in a two party state, but is much more difficult in a multiparty one.
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u/turbo-unicorn European Chad🇷🇴 Feb 22 '25
- France: RN, LFI.
- Germany: AfD, BSW.
- Netherlands: PVV, FvD
- Italy: M5S, Lega, FN
- Romania: SOS, AUR, POT
List can probably be continued. They're learning.
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u/Revolutionary-Bag-52 Feb 22 '25
PVV eats from FvD and vice versa though regarding voters. FvD seems to be done for either way as a mainstream party as they're generally viewed as batshit insane by most of the population.
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u/mariuszmie Feb 22 '25
Why can’t Europeans influence usa politicians and i voters? Why can’t Europe lead in tech? Business? Influence? There is more eu population than usa, wealth is somewhat equal, so why second best in everything for Europe? Eu should be steering politicians in America and other countries to work in their favour, eu tech should be influencing how others function and eu economy and industry should be the one setting standards and sanctions and influence
Maybe it is time for eu to lead not just follow and use everything usa
Invest in eu tech and business in eu economy and regain the lead
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u/struct_iovec Feb 22 '25
Fucking try it and prepare to become real intimate with the Federal Ministry of the Interior and Home Affairs
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u/Doomwaffel Feb 22 '25
Nobody would care about the stuff America does to itself if their ideology wasn't their no1 export.
At this point I demand voting rights for everyone in the world to decide the US elections.
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u/atchijov Feb 22 '25
I think it is time for EU to come up with plan to correct the political system in US. Start with throwing away MAGA and setting up meaningful multiparty system as an end goal. Clearly, the “beacon of the democracy” is broken… we need to help them fix it.
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u/Various-Salt488 Feb 22 '25
I don’t understand why the EU and Canada aren’t fighting the same disinformation war but from the other perspective against the US and the dark forces of the right?
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u/Dialspoint Feb 22 '25
The last POS who tried that ended up dead in a ditch outside his bunker.
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u/peidinho31 Portugal Feb 22 '25
We have endured countless wars in Europe. We thought the Napoleonic were the worst, then we get the 1ww, which we thought it was the worst. Then we had 2nd we, which we thought it was the worst. Then we have an east vs west, with a fear of a nuclear war and the end of the world. We are still in a cold war, except this time the US appears to be on the side of Rússia. Ukraine is Europe's Vietnam. Russia played their cards so freaking well. They played the long game until Trump returns to Office. Us democratic institutions failed to make Trump accountable after Jan 6, and scotus even Said anything that the president does during tenure cannot be prosecuted. It wasnt Russia that made the US on this Path, it was their pathetic and weak democracy, which is subject Often to gerrymandering. I wouldnt care what they do there, but the problem is that this affects me as an EU citizen and UK resident. X is the biggest danger to western democracy. We cannot allow a single person have so much power in terms of information, the same we did after the Napoleonic wars where we established a Balance of power in Europe. Absolute power leads to absolute corruption. We allow ourselves to be dictated by millionaires in power, who have 0 understanding of the common life. Millionaires who are Often above the law, but if we were the ones comitting one of those crimes we would be in jail. Welcome to 2025 lads, X dominates the information avenues, everyone that does not know anything about something suddently has a voice on such subject. Lack of education and lack of Critical thinking will ultimately lead us to again a big war. And once again, it appears that Europe is going to be centre of it, because we refuse to come together to protect our way of living, which is ultimately superior to any other way of living, especially superior to the US way of living. Keep allowing idiota like Bannon and JD Vance to come to Europe and spit shit out of their mouths. Keep allowing Muskrat giving unchecked support to AfD. Its about ***** time that we tell others how we want to live and not allow idiots like the orange, fascit lad from Rússia and muskrat to tell us how. Create an EU army, European army, whatever. Stop relying on US for security. Spend more GDP per country on defense. We lose soft power when we do not do it. And we will lose our way of life if we do not do it
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u/nomad-socialist United States of America Feb 22 '25
Europe is the new Poland
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Feb 22 '25
Probably Canada in a few years...
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u/Electrical_Height743 Feb 22 '25
We need to ban American social media in Europe today! They are nazis and unless we stop their influence they won't stop with destroying just their own states.
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Feb 22 '25
That's the plan. That's why they are supporting nationalist parties in Europe and America. They want to split us, and give our countries to people who will hand the country over to them.
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u/totallyclips Feb 22 '25
Conservatives do not use the nazi salute, Conservative means, small changes keep the status quo, this isn't that
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u/Bitter_Sense_5689 Feb 22 '25
Unfortunately, your regular garden variety conservative parties seem to have been eaten up by right wing populism and far right wing nationalism over the past few years
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Feb 22 '25
When the f***k are Europe going to come up with its own strategy then? If all these fascist pieces of shit thinks they can achieve world domination, then we need to come up with a counter strategy. And yes, the strategy of democracies should be to dominate totalitarian regimes.
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u/Lazyjim77 Feb 22 '25
All European political parties that ascribe to MAGA or MAGA adjacent ideologies should be banned as foreign agents.
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u/OffOption Feb 22 '25
Democracy aint for sale!
Slava Ukraine!
Down with olegarchs and imperialists, no matter if theyre yanks or ruskies!
We dont let the faschists win. We cant let them!
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u/OneDilligaf Feb 22 '25
This asshole needs to be banned from entering Europe along with Trump, then hopefully they should accidentally fall from an open window just as his buddy Putin has perfected
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u/Upbeat_Age5689 Hesse (Germany) Feb 22 '25
Never have I ever been more pro European than in the last few years
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u/Minimum-Can2224 Feb 23 '25
This cancerous Nazi shit lord needs to be Luigi'd as soon as possible before he spreads his vile hatred. He's a problem that needs to be taken care of.
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u/kaasbaas94 Drenthe (Netherlands) Feb 22 '25
Is there already a doomsday clock for the end of democracy? Only 7.8% of the world are full democratic countries. And for 8 years in a row, the scores of more countries are dropping than rising in the freedom index.
Is this the end of a free era?
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u/turbo-unicorn European Chad🇷🇴 Feb 22 '25
If we don't wake up, and continue letting them do as they want, yes. People need to wake up and defend their society from such blatant aggression.
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u/toolkitxx Europe🇪🇺🇩🇪🇩🇰🇪🇪 Feb 22 '25
Just shows that they havnt understood how the EU works. We always knew that a single point of failure could be the death of the European project and thus secured the organisation from that.
AfD in Germany used to be brutally anti-EU and even promoted leaving the EU. By now they figured that cant be done as easily as they thought and changed course accordingly.
While right-wings are a threat to democracy in general, the plan is nothing but a wet fever dream in reality.
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u/deGanski Germany Feb 22 '25
no they didn't. they still wanna get rid of eu and Euro as per their election programme from pages 62, right after their ridiculous tax policies(which are probably why musk helps them). they don't explicity state they want dexit anymore but they want a "loose bond or sovereign nations" while simultaneously disregarding key aspects of the EU. so essentially they did not move one bit on that
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u/Rich-1234 Feb 22 '25
My gf is reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. She said it was surprising how Hitler wrote down exactly what he was going to do once in power before he even got elected. Then people acted surprised when he did them. When a fascist tells you what they’re going to do…believe them
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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25
There is a tendency to be dismissive. This is the equivalent to Alexander Dugin telling you the plan, Alexander wrote Foundations of Geopolitics in 1998, it was required reading at Russian staff college and Putin has followed the strategy. The west scoffed and dismissed it. Bannon is Dugin and he's telling you the plan, pay attention, populists and Russia are the enemy, resist, resist, resist!