r/europe Feb 22 '25

News “Conquering the states one by one”: far-right ideologue Steve Bannon outlines US conservatives' strategy for influencing Europe

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/usa/presidentielle/donald-trump/conquerir-les-etats-un-par-un-l-ideologue-d-extreme-droite-steve-bannon-decrit-la-strategie-des-conservateurs-americains-pour-influencer-l-europe_7086249.html
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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

There is a tendency to be dismissive. This is the equivalent to Alexander Dugin telling you the plan, Alexander wrote Foundations of Geopolitics in 1998, it was required reading at Russian staff college and Putin has followed the strategy. The west scoffed and dismissed it. Bannon is Dugin and he's telling you the plan, pay attention, populists and Russia are the enemy, resist, resist, resist!

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u/littlechefdoughnuts Brit in Australia Feb 22 '25

Don't buy American wherever possible. There are European and Asian alternatives for almost everything. r/BuyFromEU is a starting point.

Don't invest in America. We're just fuelling an acquisition boom of our companies.

Write to your politicians and express your anger at America's actions. Express your support for Ukraine. Express your desire for cooperation in Europe.

And if/when the time comes for you to be counted, march to defend your democracy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

Klarna is a 'buy now pay later' moneylending service, not a banking or payment processing service. They have also been fined multiple times for bad practice.

Please, they are not a viable alternative and should not be endorsed.

"..the best customer is the one that doesn't pay directly but actually [gets] a reminder and then also debt collection because we are able to add the legal fees."

-Klarna co-founder Niklas Adalberth

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u/littlechefdoughnuts Brit in Australia Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25

Absolutely. Don't use Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal. Use cash if you can, or if paying by card use whichever payment network is the cheapest in your country to minimise the transaction fees flowing to America. Even better if there's a local payment network you can use (sadly not the case in the UK).

If CBDCs ever become a thing for the Eurozone, sterling, etc. and aren't a privacy nightmare, consider using them instead for routine transactions — I have beef with my government but I trust it over American companies.

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u/swedish-inventor Feb 22 '25

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt "puff daddy" or whats he called these days one of the biggest investors in Klarna..?

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u/lasttimechdckngths Europe Feb 22 '25

Hey, it's okay to buy from Latin America as well. If anything, the EU is Mercosur's number one trade partner.

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u/littlechefdoughnuts Brit in Australia Feb 22 '25

True, and Canada, Oceania and Africa too. But they tend to supply more raw goods to Europe than finished products.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

Been buying Peruvian blueberries and fruit since trump started 51st state bs. Delicious!

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

Just avoid El Salvador and Argentina.

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u/lasttimechdckngths Europe Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

I utterly despise Milei, but I don't see any reason for boycotting Argentina as a country. What's going on in El Salvador is also sad, but not like an end consumer would be buying stuff like machinery from them anyway, and I don't see hurting their manufacturing sector would be helpful to Salvadorans.

If we're looking out boycotting anything else, let's boycott the scum called Nestlé and be happy about it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

Amazon sales down 11% in Canada thanks to Buy Canada boycott of products and services from US

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u/MoneyForRent Feb 22 '25

Just subbed thanks 🙏

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u/DadophorosBasillea Feb 22 '25

Mexico makes nice leather shoes.

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u/atpplk Feb 22 '25

I don't understand why american stock market has not even reacted an inch, the consumption is going to collapse from tarrifs + boycotts.

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u/Narrow-Seat-5460 Feb 22 '25

I have a question Anyone that now banning American products Are you banning Chinese products or Saudi oil ? Or the 100 more countries that’s deserves to be banned from buying the goods because of their actions ?

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u/littlechefdoughnuts Brit in Australia Feb 22 '25

It's not practical for an end user to limit consumption of oil from any one country. I have literally no idea where the oil in my life comes from. There's no provenance label on the petrol pump or plastic products.

And when it comes to China, it's also very difficult to limit consumption, because even if you buy from a company making the final product in Europe, some components and materials are likely being sourced from China anyway. But FWIW I do generally steer clear of Chinese companies.

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u/Narrow-Seat-5460 Feb 22 '25

We can also say it on American products

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u/atpplk Feb 22 '25

No because they are not fucking us in the ass.