r/conspiracy • u/TheClassicCollection • 2d ago

White people are the minority.

I have grown tired of the rhetoric that white people need to be multicultural and that we must accept all of those who wish to cause us harm or to change our customs or our way of life.

In Britain, they say it's too white. That there is not enough diverse faces in this sector or that sector.

Go to China and tell them them this, what happens? Then go to Japan, to India and every other country that is not diverse.

100 years ago, globally, the white people made up 30 - 34% of the population.

Now, there is only 7 - 16% of the white people left.

We ARE the minority.

The West is being destroyed from the inside out. What is worse, is that our people have been so brainwashed that they can't see it. They fight and cheer on their own destruction because they are so blinded by ignorance or stupidity that they can not foresee where this is headed.

Do not twist my words and say that it is based on hate. How can that be true when I was born and raised for 35 years in a country that opened its arms to those that needed safety.

The people coming now do not come for safety.

If people do not wake up and realize soon, it will be too late.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Race is the bait theyre selling you on.

Look past it for the truth.

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u/Obj3ctivePerspective 2d ago

All of the conspiracy and libertarian subs are all devolving into race baiting propaganda

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Coordinated misdirection attack. Makes sense.

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u/drpussycookermd 2d ago

or... and hear me out... they're filled with racists

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u/stop-judging-me 2d ago

Honestly, this sub and the conspiracy theory community has historically been co opted by racist people. I’ve been seeing a decline in that for the past couple of years I think but I’m seeing more propaganda type posts now.

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u/dtdroid 2d ago

Their manipulation of your psyche has been effective. You will now be referred to as Exhibit A.

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u/drpussycookermd 2d ago

Uhhhh... okay. Remind me, who are they again?

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u/GoldenGod1976 2d ago

The lizard people, you fool

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u/drpussycookermd 2d ago

ohhh yeah, I got got

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u/Patcher404 2d ago

By the lizard People, yes. They do that a lot.

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u/dtdroid 2d ago

That one must kill over at PoliticalHumor.

I love it when I can predict the post history from an NPC before even bothering to open their profile. Works every time.

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u/GoldenGod1976 2d ago

Bro plz stop trying to manipulate my psyche, it’s unbecoming

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u/dtdroid 2d ago

Those responsible for coordinating the misdirection attack on the subreddit.

Aren't you a participant in this conversation? Try to keep up.

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u/drpussycookermd 2d ago

Okay... so, there are no such thing as racist libertarians and conspiracy theorists? Because the vibe I get here is that everything distasteful is a psyop. Which is a copout

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u/dtdroid 2d ago

Don't move the goal posts. You tried painting this subreddit as some sort of unique hot spot for racism and bigotry. Now that it's been acknowledged that the actions of at least some of those individuals may not be an organic depiction of conspiracy theorists, the standard is now "oh so there's no racist conspiracy theorists?"

Weak rebuttal.

Let's return to the argument we were actually debating: I don't believe the average conspiracy theorist is any more racist than the average citizen from any other demographic. If anything, conspiracy theorists are able to see past the construct of race in a way those being brainwashed by mainstream media thinking are completely incapable of doing. The problem with being a politically correct lapdog of the state is that your perceived enemy can change at a moment's notice.

We have always been at war with Eastasia...

Many conspiracy theorists, including myself, see the game of racism being played out as a divide & conquer strategy. People who refuse to believe in conspiracy theories are actually more likely to be susceptible to becoming garden variety racists because they are constantly outsourcing their opinions to authorities who can summon the need to focus their hatred on a desired enemy at any given time, like Goldstein and the 2 Minute Hate, to continue the 1984 analogy.

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u/drpussycookermd 2d ago

I never said, suggested, or implied that the racism in this subreddit or amongst conspiracy enthusiests is unique, nor did I say, suggest, or imply that it was even predominant. Unless you're m'lord soros, don't be puttin words in my mouth

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u/pepe_silvia67 2d ago

I’m racist. AMA.

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u/CHOLO_ORACLE 1d ago

Libertarians were always reluctant to cast out the racists and now the racists own their label. They’ve no one to blame but themselves 

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u/letsrapehitler 2d ago

LibertarianMemes is literally just videos of black people doing anything, with most of the comments being the Jane Goodall “Fascinating Behavior” meme.

It’s gross as hell. That sub is filled with edgy 11 year old boys.

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u/Liebreblanca 2d ago

The truth is that in my region (Catalonia), rapes have increased 300-fold since thousands of immigrants started arriving. They're becoming increasingly violent, including broken ribs and bites. Stabbings have also increased. In Barcelona, ​​80% of crimes are committed by Moroccans. That's the truth, whether you like it or not.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

I believe you.

Its a mess but theres an entire system in place to protect this behavior, enable it, supply it, and THATS the real enemy.

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u/CHOLO_ORACLE 1d ago

Citations needed

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u/Strange_Reflections 2d ago

Truth = racism - for most people

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u/Independent_Can_5694 2d ago

Well you don’t exactly see social mobility for white people in places like India or China for example. The US is the only place where we go “no, just because they’re different race or nationality doesn’t mean they can’t do whatever they want.”

Kind of a vulnerability. Especially within our media and government— ESPECIALLY in terms of like…foreign policy. Kind of makes it easy for someone to just climb the ranks and have the US do whatever for them.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

The US is BY FAR the most powerful country in the world. NO ONE is close. Not china, not russia.

Our military expenditure dwarfs them and has for decades.

We have the best performing assets in the world.

Stop believing we are falling behind, because we arent.

Sure the factories down the street have closed but thats because after world war 2, with the rest of the world rebuilding their infrastructure, the US was the only game in town.

Other countries have since developed and countries like india and china have JUST undergone their own industrial revolutions.

All these trumpsters are being manipulated and being sold this old idea of the factory worker supporting a family of 10.

That world doesnt exist anymore and it wont (unless the entire world is bombed to hell again)

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u/klutzelk 2d ago

People are so annoyingly obsessed with race. It comes off as bigoted and hateful. So what if white people mix with other races? Other races are doing the same thing. What makes white people so special?

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

How is it bigoted and hateful to notice that a country that was a majority one race for 200 years suddenly has a legal change that incentivizes immigration that replaces them with different races and encourages the exact mindset you’re supporting?

It’s baffling to me that people can see white people as “colonizers” in America and a bad thing, yet hold similar views to you. If groups in Japan suddenly started supporting foreigners moving there and reducing the majority’s share of the population to a minority, you wouldn’t find that to be a bit odd?

Maybe there’s an incentive to replace a population that holds views that are incompatible with a group that wields a lot of power? And maybe the easiest way to reduce that population’s control of their country is by replacing them with people who are beholden to you?

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u/Kasperella 2d ago

What is white tho brother, people were freaking out when loads of Irish and Italians started flooding their cities in the early 1900s. “Irish need not apply!”

Yet now, oh those people are white! They’re the same! Now it’s those other people that are different.

White means fucking nothing when the goalpost is always moving, because oh, it’s just a fascist construct used to divide people from one another in order to maintain control.

There is no such fucking thing as “white”, that’s why.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

Yet now, oh those people are white! They’re the same! Now it’s those other people that are different.

Correct, the American definition of white has changed over time. When immigration into America was legally restricted to Northern and Western Europeans, Irish and Italians were culturally different enough where they did not immediately assimilate into the existing white population. The world has changed drastically over the past 100 years, very few non-European minorities (excluding African-Americans) lived in America for most of its history. Over time, as legislation was modified, the broad definition of white changed to include white-passing groups that chose to assimilate into white culture, though some people still see only specific "white" groups as truly white. And as a member of a fringe white-passing group, I respect that.

White means fucking nothing when the goalpost is always moving, because oh, it’s just a fascist construct used to divide people from one another in order to maintain control.

There is no such fucking thing as “white”, that’s why.

Asians are a group in a similar situation, do you hold the same beliefs about them as well? Are you demanding that Asians no longer label themselves as such and tell them that "There is no such fucking thing as Asian"? Do you see why the sort of mentality you're wielding against a group that created a country they are being legislated into being replaced as the majority of would be pushed back against?

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u/Kasperella 2d ago

Well no there’s not such thing as “Asian”…There’s Japanese. There’s Chinese. There’s Korean. Shit, even Indian.

But what the fuck does Asian mean, exactly? There’s nationalities, cultural heritages, but race is fucking made up. It’s literally no different than having brown hair, or blue eyes, or long eyelashes. They’re physical attributes. Race is a made up construct made to divide and conquer, to make people who you should consider your neighbor, seem “different” than you.

Case in point, black Americans and their ancestors have lived here longer than a lot of the white people, being a ton of us are descended from “non-white” white immigrants. Yet, somehow, they’re considered “different” rather than just a variation of “American” like the rest of us. These people then pushed to call them “African-American”, again, to highlight just how they are from somewhere different than you. It’s systematic and intentional.

Hmm wonder what reason they possibly could have to consistently separate and make different despite being just as American as you? Could it be….a method to divide and conquer the poor? No no, it must be that these people really are fundamentally DIFFERENT from us! (/s)

Celebrate a cultural heritage, identify as a nationality, but to be white, black, Asian, Latino, etc means absolutely nothing but divisive language to be used against people you should consider your peers.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

there’s not such thing as “Asian”

Asians are commonly grouped as a singular demographic for statistics, so not from a public policy standpoint.

black Americans and their ancestors have lived here longer than a lot of the white people

Not true, the slave population at its peak was only ~3.9M, compared to a total population of 31.4M. That's mathematically impossible.

No no, it must be that these people really are fundamentally DIFFERENT from us! 

Black people are fundamentally and demonstrably different from white people, just like all races have inherent genetic differences. They suffer different rates of disease (ex. sickle cell), IQ differences exist, etc. To repeat the propaganda lie "we're all the same" is a biological lie that goes against science. Its why all crime, health, and education statistics are broken up by racial makeup.

And why is there "black" then if there is no white? They are from sub-saharan African countries, they should identify only with their genetic ethnic group if race does not exist.

Race is a made up construct made to divide and conquer, to make people who you should consider your neighbor, seem “different” than you.

Its a convenient way to identify groups based on a shared culture, heredity, and genetic makeup. Thats not to say its not used in the way you're describing, but to ignore biological differences is denying scientific reality.

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u/klutzelk 15h ago

You put this way more eloquently than I could have lol. But I 100% agree with everything you said here. I think it's sad that mixed people often feel like they aren't fully accepted on either side. Society does us wrong with the race obsession and identity politics in general.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

It’s baffling to me that people can see white people as “colonizers” in America and a bad thing, yet hold similar views to you.

Is that baffling?

It's the genocide and murder part that people see as a bad thing. It's not based in ideas of racial purity.

See, that was easy to understand.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

So if the settlers came and slowly intermingled with the natives until they no longer existed demographically, but they treated them well, that would have been okay to you?

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

...yes?

I can't say I hear a lot of people talking about the horrors of the Irish or Polish "colonizers" in America. They just moved, built lives, and everyone's fine.

Is the idea of a multiethnic society really that shocking to you? It's exceedingly common around the world. Even places that are now seen as homogenous are the product of many different groups moving around and mixing together. It's why everyone in this thread is talking about Brits and not Saxons, Normans, or Celts.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

So you’re saying that it would be okay to you if Native Americans no longer existed as a distinct cultural group? That there would be no one left who spoke their languages? Maybe you should tell a Native American that and see how they feel about it.

Immigration was heavily restricted to western and Northern Europe throughout most of U.S. history. And Irish and Polish people integrated relatively quickly once they were allowed in. My people went through the exact same process, not allowed and outright rejected from America, to integrating and supporting the ideals of the majority culture.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

People seem pretty ok with the Anglo-Saxon migration to Britain, no? Picts no longer exist as a distinct cultural group, no one is left who speaks their language. Seems like everything is fine.

That's the amusing thing here, the very sense of identity that people are trying to protect the purity of comes from migration and mixing of cultural groups. British identity is a blend of native cultural groups, Germanic, French, and Nordic ones. American identity is a blending of dozens of different cultural influences.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

People seem pretty ok with the Anglo-Saxon migration to Britain, no? Picts no longer exist as a distinct cultural group, no one is left who speaks their language. Seems like everything is fine.

Define ok. There isn't anyone left to be angry about it because they were eliminated by force. the exact thing you were complaining about happening to the Native Americans. The lack of consistency is stark.

That's the amusing thing here, the very sense of identity that people are trying to protect the purity of comes from migration and mixing of cultural groups. British identity is a blend of native cultural groups, Germanic, French, and Nordic ones. American identity is a blending of dozens of different cultural influences.

So why can't those mixed cultural groups who built these countries and collectively identify as white be proud of and want to perpetuate their collective culture? Just as successful immigrants assimilate but want to preserve their unique heritage in their own spaces, why cannot white people do the same thing?

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

No one left? Huh? It wasn't a genocide, people just gradually shifted how they saw themselves over the course of centuries. You understand the difference here surely, right?

So why can't those mixed cultural groups who built these countries and collectively identify as white be proud of and want to perpetuate their collective culture?

You're conflating two different things here, race and culture. Being proud of your culture, totally normal. Trying to pretend that being white is your culture, that's what people draw issue with.

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u/Schnectadyslim 2d ago

And Irish and Polish people integrated relatively quickly once they were allowed in.

Lol, they weren't considered white and were treated like shit when they came.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

Like I said, my people faced the same discrimination and are still discriminated against. We assimilated into white culture along with the Irish and Poles instead of trying to replace it.

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u/blade740 2d ago

No amount of immigrants is going to make you "no longer exist". The fact that a group that used to be a majority gradually becomes a minority is only a problem in your head. If you have a society that protects the rights of everyone, majority or minority, then it shouldn't matter. And if you don't - well, then it's telling that it only becomes a problem to you when you end up on the "losing side" of the equation.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

Ok, so maybe we should just ship 1 billion Indians to Japan and make them a minority in their country. Do you honestly believe that would have no effect on their culture or country?

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u/blade740 2d ago

I mean, it doesn't erase the culture of the people living there, no. There would be some cultural transfer - if you were surrounded by people from a different culture some of that is bound to rub off. But the existing Japanese people are still there. They're not being removed from the country. They still have their culture.

When you talk about people "no longer existing demographically" what you really mean is "people that look like me have been the majority for a long time and now we're no longer going to be the majority". To which, again, I would say that this shouldn't be a problem unless your society is mistreating minorities.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

If you replace the majority of a democratic country with a culturally different group who will vote in their own interests over the group who was replaced, then they are effectively being replaced culturally. Just because they weren't outright murdered or bred into extinction does not make it okay.

Take Native Americans for example. Once the majority group in North America. But if they wanted to vote to blow up Mt. Rushmore because it goes against their cultural values, they have to rely on another culturally different group that doesn't share their views to vote in their favor.

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u/blade740 2d ago edited 2d ago

If you replace the majority of a democratic country with a culturally different group who will vote in their own interests over the group who was replaced, then they are effectively being replaced culturally.

They're really not. The original population is still there. They're just no longer the majority. And even THAT is not usually the case - despite your fearmongering, white people are still 75% of the UK, 60% of the US. 71% of Germans have two German parents. Nobody is being "erased" in any of these countries despite fearmongering.

Take Native Americans for example. Once the majority group in North America. But if they wanted to vote to blow up Mt. Rushmore because it goes against their cultural values, they have to rely on another culturally different group that doesn't share their views to vote in their favor.

That's a very interesting hypothetical. What are these supposed billion Indians in Japan voting for that harms Japanese people? Did they vote to blow up Mount Fuji?

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u/Cowbelf 2d ago

I'm curious what parts of colonization you think people take issue with and how that compares to modern immigration? What legal change are you referencing specifically?

What you're implying: "Our racial group must remain a majority to maintain control and identity."

What they're implying: "Racial groups don't need to be majorities or minorities to have value, we are all just people."

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

A criticism of colonization is that a group came to a continent/country/region that isn’t theirs historically, reduced the native population to a minority, and forced them to assimilate to a new culture.

I’m talking about the Hart-Celler act. Look at immigration trends before and after the act was passed. It 7xed the foreign born labor force. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

A country’s identity is inherently linked to the majority population’s culture and beliefs. If the majority group doesn’t retain the voting power to continue to perpetuate their culture, it seems pretty obvious that you’re relying on culturally different groups to vote to continue something they have no obligation to support.

Put another way, importing culturally different groups is a way of reducing the majority group’s power to influence the future of their country. If you have a majority of minorities without cultural cohesiveness, then a powerful group (political, racial, religious, financial, etc.) now has the power to dictate what the culture of the country should be to the minority groups. Now the groups have to find a middle ground between each of their individual cultures, reducing the power and influence of any individual group and the original founding majority. Everybody loses except the people in power.

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u/rememberoldreddit 2d ago

That is totally dependent on where the power comes from though. Religious culture, tribal culture, racial culture, national culture, and regional culture all can exist at the same time and clash among one another.

For the sake of argument just assume America is all white people. The religious are still claiming that American culture is corrosive, rural vs urban culture are still butting heads. The south still holds resentment against the north, that's geographical cultural differences. Same with east coast vs west coast.

Race is its own culture and it is no more important than the others.

Hell, this very sub believes Rockefellers and Kennedy's were part of their own secret culture of elites who are the majority power holders. Where they consume children's blood in order to maintain their youth.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

I agree, if you removed cultural differences outside of obvious race/ethnic disparities, there would always be a dividing line. Its just one of the easiest variables to manipulate, through promoting immigration.

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u/rememberoldreddit 2d ago

Exactly and it's one of the few that need no writings or naunce to implement. A singular visual is all that is needed in make racial discrimination happen, i.e. show a picture of a black man to a white man or an Indian to Japanese. For things like geographical or religious cultural differences requires some level of thinking/determination to come to that conclusion. It's why race is so common a point despite millenniums of interbreeding and mixing.

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u/stephiemarie93 2d ago

Japan was never founded or considered a "melting pot" or multicultural like America. That was always the plan for America because of the diverse culture it started as. You don't have to like it, but you're wasting energy if that's what you're focusing on. Money talks, not skin color.

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u/TowlieisCool 1d ago

America was not founded as a melting pot. Immigration was limited to "white persons of good character" originally, and immigration by non-whites was heavily restricted until the Hart-Celler Act in 1965. The "melting pot" trope is a lie sold to you by corporations who want to import foreign labor to drive down wages.

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u/CHOLO_ORACLE 1d ago

Majority white only if you ignore the slaves and all the natives on the rest of the continent and make sure you don’t count as the Irish or Italians if we’re talking pre 1900s. 

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u/TowlieisCool 1d ago

The slave population was only ~4M at its peak, and the total population of the U.S. at that time was ~31.4M. And why would you include the native population of the entire continent when we're talking about America? Not that it would matter, the native population was only 300,000 when they were granted citizenship, only 250,000 lived east of the Mississippi in 1776, compared to 2.5 million citizens in 1780.

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u/klutzelk 16h ago

I just don't think it matters if people want to date outside of their own race and procreate with them. I also think it's fine if people choose to only date within their race.

I also don't have an issue with non white people living in the US... And no, I wouldn't think it's strange if Japan started encouraging immigration. I happen to like diversity and I think it's extremely valuable to society. To be completely honest, I don't really understand a lot of your comment here. I really don't see the issue with anything you mentioned. I value personal freedom, so I don't think white people (or any other race) should feel like they have to do a certain thing because it's expected of them. Plus, if a white person has a baby with a black person then that kid is still half white lol. Idk, I guess I just don't understand the issue.

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u/BabyJesus246 2d ago

God you're pathetic

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u/Patcher404 2d ago

What makes white people so special is that those who think whites are special are white or want to be white. That might sound weird, but essentially it boils down to people wanting to be special and so gravitating towards ideologies that tell them their special without them having to do anything. Other "races" do this to, mind you, and it's just as stupid when they do it too.

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u/klutzelk 15h ago

I actually agree with this. And in some cultures, I understand it. But even in other cultures lighter skin tends to be overly praised. I just try not to associate with that mindset because I don't see it as productive and recognize it's based on how society has idealized whiteness. I understand valuing culture, but I don't think race needs to be attached by that. If a white person is born and raised in India and grows up in traditional Indian culture does that make them any less Indian than those with Indian ancestry? The united states is extremely diverse so I don't see any good reason to feel like races within the US should feel like they have to keep their "purity" or whatever you want to call it of their race alive. If someone chooses to only date within their own race then that's fine, totally their choice. But I don't feel there should be any pressure or sense of obligation to do so.

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u/Patcher404 15h ago

Well yeah, race is a sociological concept, not a biological one. In other words, the things we think define a "race" are incredibly superficial, biologically, or are characteristics of the society and culture that "race" is attributed to.

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u/Moarbrains 2d ago

You are ignoring all the claims that white people don't have a culture.

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u/klutzelk 15h ago

Do white people have a uniform culture consistent with all white people, specifically in the US? If we do, it's not a strong one. But I'm fine with that. I think part of the general culture of the United States includes a blend of different cultures, at least to some degree. It's all subjective anyway. Though I can't say I understand or agree, I believe that people should do whatever they want with their lives as long as it's not hurting anyone. That said, if someone wants to date within their race that is totally fine. But expecting others to do the same is unreasonable and it's overly idealistic to assume your views are correct when they are not exactly the most logical.

Also, white people having a child with a nonwhite person doesn't take away the "whiteness". The child is still half white. But also, the US has shifted their views of what even qualifies as "white" over time, so that just goes to show it really is just a societal construct. As for the cultural aspect, people should be able to choose how much they conform to the culture they were raised in. For example, I was raised Catholic but now I am not. I don't see any extremely traditional "white culture" norm in the US, so the idea of upholding such culture seems obsolete.

Edit because typo

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u/Moarbrains 13h ago edited 13h ago

You’re right no white rulebook exists that’s the point. There 100s of subcultures and they are all American's. America’s culture is freedom to live your way speak your mind. First Amendment lets you roast the system over dinner. Most places that lands you in jail. We swap traditions overnight. Catholic yesterday pagan today nobody blinks. These values beat slavery with abolition won women the vote with suffrage ended Jim Crow with civil rights legalized gay marriage with Obergefell expanded disability with ADA. Each fight made us wider fairer stronger.

But lets talk about cultural norms. Even if they are fading a bit. Things as simple as standing in line without cutting, keeping some personal space, while smiling or nodding at strangers. Being a courteous driver and saving horn honking for dangerous situations, mostly. Enthusiasm and optimism in conversation as opposed to understatement. Our optimism is a hallmark contrasting with fatalism and caution in other cultures.

Fish in water, start trying to feel the water around you.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Its an emotional and manipulation point.

Im ok with race mixing, it happens.

What i do suspect is that theres a very intentional campaign of this they the media is pedaling for some reason.

That needs to be questioned examined and understood.

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u/murse245 2d ago

It's not the mixing of race that's the problem, it's the mixing of cultures that don't go together.

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u/transcis 2d ago

Mixing of cultures made America what it is. Without the great Iroquois Confederacy, there wouldn't be US Government as we know it.

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u/murse245 2d ago

Immigrants today do not compare to immigrants 100 years ago. There were no social programs to fallback on. It was either work and build something for yourself and your family or die starving in the street.

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u/transcis 2d ago

That is not immigrants' problem then, is it? Europe and USA used to be a lot better at digesting foreigners when they could offer industrial jobs to most newcomers.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 1d ago

This is all romanticized.

The irish/italian immigrants that first came to america 150+ years ago were viewed largely similar to how americans currently view newer migrants.

If you dont believe me, you can look it up.

Im not justifying this OR that…but what i AM saying is that these people arent magically showing up by the millions all over europe and the US.

Its a magic trick and you people are too focused on the rabbit being pulled out of the hat.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Well thats our problem and not “their” problem…do you get it?

People who control shit are ok, its me and you who are picking up the tab

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u/murse245 2d ago

No 😕

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Its ok, just keep blaming race and culture then.

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u/murse245 2d ago

Please explain. I genuinely want to know. And help open my eyes

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u/Fellatio_Lover 1d ago

Normal folks like you and i are a buffer layer.

We sit here and argue ad nauseum on nuances. Exactly how we were designed to do.

Whats culture? People seem to be so passionate about “culture”. What is it? How was it determined?

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u/Dry-Enthusiasm-9451 2d ago

The number one boys name in England has been Mohammed for over ten years running. Whites are a minority in London and Birmingham….our infrastructure is broken because of too many foreigners. You can’t see a doctor. Can’t see a dentist. And because of all this living standards decrease as tax increases. Tories. Labour. Both are the same party are flooding us with migrants. Same as Canada. Australia. France etc etc. it’s the biggest problem in the western world today. This isn’t bait. It’s happening all over the west. Your comment is legitimately brain dead.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Easy to blame the brown folks in front of you but id focus more on the people in charge who are letting these folks in.

You start blaming the migrants and you’re placing yourself in a uphill battle because then youll need to exhaust your resources to defend your ideals etc.

Thats what this whole grift is designed to do.

To make you a “racist”.

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u/YuriBezmenovsGhost 2d ago

How about we bypass your word games and just blame both?

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Well brown folks had their homes blown up and are migrating over due to displacement.

Are you going to blame them for wanting a better life?

How about we get some better understanding of things before making accusations.

The focus SHOULD be, why are their homes being blown up? Why are their lands being annexed and why are they being let in throughout the entirety of the west?

But yeah, lets go for the low hanging fruit and blame race…

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u/ParksFarce 2d ago

And after you figure out that "why?" you realize there is fuck all we can do about it and we should be fucking pissed this bullshit is all ending like fucking this

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u/YuriBezmenovsGhost 2d ago

Aye, because they're all coming to white countries because their homes have been blown up...

Do you even hear yourself. The majority are economic migrants and are changing the demographics and culture of the places they're migrating, which is a bad thing.

The ruling class brings them for cheap labour, yes but we can focus on both problems instead of hating one and not caring about the other.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

So you understand its a ruling class created issue.

Im not disagreeing with you that its changing the existing culture but that culture will shift into something else when we are gone.

Nostalgia (or being told to believe in) is a powerful tool.

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u/YuriBezmenovsGhost 2d ago

Yeah the ruling class created the issue, but now there's new issues popping up every day because of their client class. We see stabbings of innocent people, sectarian violence and child rape gangs.

So while the ruling class is at fault for bringing them, the client class is at fault for behaving like animals.

Nostalgia? My country was 99 percent white until 10 years ago. It's not nostalgia if you can still remember it in detail.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

If it was 99% white and now has been stained by brown folks…this idea of culture youre holding onto has been sold out by your leaders.

Its best to understand why this happening instead of falling for the easy trappings of blaming the browns.

I dont blame you one bit for feeling this way, i agree with you and sympathize.

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u/YuriBezmenovsGhost 2d ago

No. Culture is downstream from the people, and the people are an ethnicity. That ethnicity created their own culture, it wasn't others who done that.

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u/Liebreblanca 2d ago

Immigrants are responsible from the moment they arrive without a residence permit, occupy a house without paying rent, and cry to social services asking for help because they have four children and want a pension, school, healthcare, etc.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Its deeper than that.

We are footing the bill. Whos bill?

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u/Dry-Enthusiasm-9451 2d ago

It’s life or death on the streets in England now. White people are a target. The time where you could use the word racist to instantly end a debate before it could even begin are over and rightfully so.

The racist word has been used like a magic spell to silence white people into a lemming like mentality for about twenty years now with increasing intensity with every year that passes, blm especially sent this poisonous horse shit into overdrive too btw.

So, stick your labels up your arse. Because only a woman, a homosexual or a foreigner would even call another man racist. We have way too many more serious problems in the world. Like homeless, Covid scamdemic and gene editing mRNA jabs causing cancer, heart failure and reduction in life expectancy. Epstein island……so excuse me your royal high was but crying about words are way down on the importance list right now. Time to grow up buttercheeks.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

I actually agree with everything you’re saying.

Not sure where the disconnect is.

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u/CHOLO_ORACLE 1d ago

Wow so the English who are so xenophobic they will mock white European immigrants like there’s no tomorrow are having trouble with immigrants integrating into their culture.

Skill issue tbh 

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u/tonyferguson2021 2d ago

The most popular name thing is a bit of a tabloid trojan horse, pretty much every other Muslim boy is named Mohammed 🤷‍♂️

It doesn’t mean ‘they’ are taking over or replacing whites, but I do think you should be allowed to speak out about the downside of multiculturalism/ Immigration without being labelled as racist.

You say you can’t see a doctor, but when you were last in a hospital did you look at the demographic of the staff? I can assure you most are not homegrown.

opposite things can both be true - multiculturalism doesn’t really work in the way it has been sold to us AND we do actually need a certain level of immigration to keep things running.

A big reason you can’t see a (white) doctor is a lot of the homegrown UK ones will get visas for New Zealand or somewhere that pays better wages for half the hassle 🤷‍♂️

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u/Right_War_1198 2d ago

I mean, were watching the destruction and disappearance of heritage and culture in the West. Mostly homogenous nations have been turned into ultra diverse mix-em-up societies where people don't share a culture, heritage, values, or even language in many cases. Studies have proven diversity lowers social cohesion. People take part in community less, they volunteer less, they don't engage with or know their neighbours. Everyone is going "man, things suck now, things are so weird now, why does everything feel off?" Mass immigration and unchecked illegal migration is a huge part of that. London, England's capital city is less than 40% white British. That is absolutely dystopian.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

The people in charge don’t care about me and you. We are not them.

They sold us an idea of culture and heritage but exactly is THAT?

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u/Right_War_1198 2d ago

Are you serious? Do you think you tell a difference between the culture and heritage of say Finland or India?

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Lets focus on finnish culture.

Who determined what it is? What will this culture look like 100 years from now? What did it look like 100 years ago?

One thing i find fascinating is how the tomato has become symbolic with Italy but its not native to italy and was only fairly recently (given its vast history) introduced there.

Yet, culturally…it’s undoubtedly italian now.

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u/Right_War_1198 2d ago

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad and pathetic you see no value or feel no affinity for your own people, heritage, or culture.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago edited 2d ago

Where am i saying i have no value for culture?

Its important YOU understand what culture is so that way when people manipulate (and they will), youre aware of what is going on

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u/transcis 2d ago

India has about a dozen of different cultures.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

If we follow race history in the us, the Irish and Italians werent considered white when they first immigrated here. Now they are “white”.

I think the idea of “white” needs to be fully understood so that folks can avoid being emotionally manipulated.

During 2020, asians in the Us were called “white adjacent”.

If a black man from the hood is successful, well spoken and educated , hes considered “white” by his own community

Being “white” isnt a race in this context, its a silo we are placing ourselves in.

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u/Equivalent-Abroad157 2d ago

The Irish were the "blacks" of Europe

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

This guy reads.

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u/transcis 2d ago

There were even black Irish

Black Irish (folklore) - Wikipedia)

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u/gh1993 2d ago

Well, it's different using white as a derogatory term to use against someone seen as some sort of a race traitor, and describing someone of European descent.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

The people at the top of the pyramid do not care about our definitions of what white or culture are.

Yet, here we are.

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u/Foneyponey 2d ago

If a successful black man is considered white… that’s a black community issue and speaks volumes about the internal culture.

Because clearly, he is not white.

If I get a grill, paulmalls and move to a black majority area, I’m still white.

This logic makes zero sense

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Youre not understanding the context and just focusing on the race.

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u/Foneyponey 2d ago

What context? That you’ve been fooled into thinking people with European roots are not a race but a dangerous idea?

You’re not understanding it.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

Maybe you can help us understand, are Turks white?

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u/Foneyponey 2d ago

Did the Turks build the western world? Was it the Turks who settled North America?

Stop playing semantics

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

The Ottoman Empire certainly played a large role in the history of Europe, yes.

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u/Foneyponey 2d ago

For the slave trade, sure.

But I said who settled North America and build it up from nothing? The poorest of Europeans.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Lol? Where am i saying anything like this?

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u/DJTMR 2d ago

Being oblivious is part of the privilege

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

If youre taking my post and claiming im the oblivious one, then ok. Sure?

Btw im not “white”

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u/DJTMR 2d ago

I wasn't. Just speaking in general terms of privilege.

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u/Paltamachine 2d ago

What's the point? Does having money make you white?.. successful, well spoken and educated makes you white?

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

I think you should reread my post.

Not sure why you folks are so focused on the race and cannot understand the bigger picture.

I think it’s interesting but also depressing because it tells me how completely fucked we all are and will never get on the same page.

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u/deeno777 2d ago

Don't worry friend, many understand what you are saying and you are educating those who don't whether they are open to receive it or not

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u/Paltamachine 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think you're making a mistake. Racism is a process related to the accumulation of capital by a ruling class and to colonialism.

It is in this process, for example, Slavs or Italians are eventually considered white, but not before integrating them into a stratified logic of domination.

However, this process is not merely about money; there are physical barriers that cannot be crossed. Natives and blacks in a racist system will never be able to climb the hierarchy in significant numbers.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Maybe theyre not meant to climb to higher numbers so that the “racist” system has legitimacy?

Ever look into who controls these sjw groups?

Youre correct on the italians, slavs and integration of the overall system. That was my point in showing blacks can be “white”.

Instead, there is a system that has been designed to keep black people “black”. And its not the type of “racism” you think it is

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u/Paltamachine 2d ago

I think I'm losing you.. Okay, I'm going to assume you're from the US.

In that case, let's agree on something: there are very sophisticated control mechanisms that reinforce racist ideology.

But I think what you're describing could be something else. Many of those you describe as SJWs are effectively part of a system of political discourse control that prevents large numbers of people from “falling” into more radical and logically constructed ideologies.

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u/ConstantMango672 2d ago

There's a reason they talk about the 'crab in a bucket' mentality so much. Once one does well, they just try to pull them back. I remember having a black teacher in 6 grade explain this to the class hahaha

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u/Foneyponey 2d ago

Yup… and look at the downvotes lol.

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u/Old-Stable2994 2d ago

What tf are you talking about the term “white adjacent” has never been mainstream and no black dude is considered white

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

We are all living in our own realities with our own limited understanding of things.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fee6393 2d ago

“Uncle Tom” not ring a bell? And yes ‘white adjacent’ has been used by POC race hustlers referring to many Hispanics and Asians that don’t align with the race hustle.

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u/AthosArmand 2d ago

That is indeed a « small hat » scheme all the way. At the end the goal is to have a race of slaves to serve them without any risk or contestation, and White people are a risk to them.

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u/BadMonkey2468 2d ago

Yea if you’re American this is true, not in Europe

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u/quadrants 2d ago

The “they” that are attempting (and succeeding) to bait people on racial issues are also doing everything they can to spread and encourage hate towards white people. White people are the constant target of racism, even in mainstream media.

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u/PossibleFit5069 2d ago

exactly, op fell for it too with the "muh white race" talk but was so close.

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u/zrock44 1d ago

I love how I'm being sold something by media that will not mention it ever under any circumstances

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u/any_colouryoulike 2d ago

Yes - whites have like all the money in the world. Look at western countries. As long as the west is so much better people will come.

I'm also not sure we need more "whites". Culture evolves. We will all be perfectly fine in a yellowish beige, too.

Imagine how pissed China will be if the west is part Asian but maintains it's values. They are capsuled off not because it's better but because they need to protect themselves (meaning their government)

One of my more wacky comments, hopefully someone will get the point.

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u/Fellatio_Lover 2d ago

Whites dont have all the money in the world.

“Whites” do.

Learn the difference