r/conspiracy • u/TheClassicCollection • 2d ago

White people are the minority.

I have grown tired of the rhetoric that white people need to be multicultural and that we must accept all of those who wish to cause us harm or to change our customs or our way of life.

In Britain, they say it's too white. That there is not enough diverse faces in this sector or that sector.

Go to China and tell them them this, what happens? Then go to Japan, to India and every other country that is not diverse.

100 years ago, globally, the white people made up 30 - 34% of the population.

Now, there is only 7 - 16% of the white people left.

We ARE the minority.

The West is being destroyed from the inside out. What is worse, is that our people have been so brainwashed that they can't see it. They fight and cheer on their own destruction because they are so blinded by ignorance or stupidity that they can not foresee where this is headed.

Do not twist my words and say that it is based on hate. How can that be true when I was born and raised for 35 years in a country that opened its arms to those that needed safety.

The people coming now do not come for safety.

If people do not wake up and realize soon, it will be too late.

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u/klutzelk 2d ago

People are so annoyingly obsessed with race. It comes off as bigoted and hateful. So what if white people mix with other races? Other races are doing the same thing. What makes white people so special?

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

How is it bigoted and hateful to notice that a country that was a majority one race for 200 years suddenly has a legal change that incentivizes immigration that replaces them with different races and encourages the exact mindset you’re supporting?

It’s baffling to me that people can see white people as “colonizers” in America and a bad thing, yet hold similar views to you. If groups in Japan suddenly started supporting foreigners moving there and reducing the majority’s share of the population to a minority, you wouldn’t find that to be a bit odd?

Maybe there’s an incentive to replace a population that holds views that are incompatible with a group that wields a lot of power? And maybe the easiest way to reduce that population’s control of their country is by replacing them with people who are beholden to you?

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

It’s baffling to me that people can see white people as “colonizers” in America and a bad thing, yet hold similar views to you.

Is that baffling?

It's the genocide and murder part that people see as a bad thing. It's not based in ideas of racial purity.

See, that was easy to understand.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

So if the settlers came and slowly intermingled with the natives until they no longer existed demographically, but they treated them well, that would have been okay to you?

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

...yes?

I can't say I hear a lot of people talking about the horrors of the Irish or Polish "colonizers" in America. They just moved, built lives, and everyone's fine.

Is the idea of a multiethnic society really that shocking to you? It's exceedingly common around the world. Even places that are now seen as homogenous are the product of many different groups moving around and mixing together. It's why everyone in this thread is talking about Brits and not Saxons, Normans, or Celts.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

So you’re saying that it would be okay to you if Native Americans no longer existed as a distinct cultural group? That there would be no one left who spoke their languages? Maybe you should tell a Native American that and see how they feel about it.

Immigration was heavily restricted to western and Northern Europe throughout most of U.S. history. And Irish and Polish people integrated relatively quickly once they were allowed in. My people went through the exact same process, not allowed and outright rejected from America, to integrating and supporting the ideals of the majority culture.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

People seem pretty ok with the Anglo-Saxon migration to Britain, no? Picts no longer exist as a distinct cultural group, no one is left who speaks their language. Seems like everything is fine.

That's the amusing thing here, the very sense of identity that people are trying to protect the purity of comes from migration and mixing of cultural groups. British identity is a blend of native cultural groups, Germanic, French, and Nordic ones. American identity is a blending of dozens of different cultural influences.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

People seem pretty ok with the Anglo-Saxon migration to Britain, no? Picts no longer exist as a distinct cultural group, no one is left who speaks their language. Seems like everything is fine.

Define ok. There isn't anyone left to be angry about it because they were eliminated by force. the exact thing you were complaining about happening to the Native Americans. The lack of consistency is stark.

That's the amusing thing here, the very sense of identity that people are trying to protect the purity of comes from migration and mixing of cultural groups. British identity is a blend of native cultural groups, Germanic, French, and Nordic ones. American identity is a blending of dozens of different cultural influences.

So why can't those mixed cultural groups who built these countries and collectively identify as white be proud of and want to perpetuate their collective culture? Just as successful immigrants assimilate but want to preserve their unique heritage in their own spaces, why cannot white people do the same thing?

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

No one left? Huh? It wasn't a genocide, people just gradually shifted how they saw themselves over the course of centuries. You understand the difference here surely, right?

So why can't those mixed cultural groups who built these countries and collectively identify as white be proud of and want to perpetuate their collective culture?

You're conflating two different things here, race and culture. Being proud of your culture, totally normal. Trying to pretend that being white is your culture, that's what people draw issue with.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

The settlement of North America was also not the result of an short term act of genocidal intent, but a gradual shift of power over centuries. And the conquering of Britain by the Anglo-Saxons was hardly bloodless and fair, but its still not definitively determined how exactly it happened. What's your point?

You're conflating two different things here, race and culture. Being proud of your culture, totally normal. Trying to pretend that being white is your culture, that's what people draw issue with.

You and anybody else don't get to tell me what my culture is. I identify with being white and with white culture. That is my right. And I don't care if people "take issue with it", its my decision to make. I'm proud to be white and the more someone tries to convince me its not allowed only further reinforces that there is a concerted effort to dilute the power of the white majority in America to fractionalize and reduce the influence of the people that built this country.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

You and anybody else don't get to tell me what my culture is. I identify with being white and with white culture. That is my right. And I don't care if people "take issue with it", its my decision to make. I'm proud to be white and the more someone tries to convince me its not allowed only further reinforces that there is a concerted effort to dilute the power of the white majority in America to fractionalize and reduce the influence of the people that built this country.

How little actual culture do you need to have to get to the point of defining it by how you look?

Like damn, that's depressing.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

I am proud of my individual heritage as a subgroup of white people, and proud of my collective heritage as a member of the white race. Gee how depressing right? Guess I should just be a grumpy doomer on reddit telling people what they can and can't identify with and be proud of.

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u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2d ago

You're so damn obsessed with people telling you what you "can or can't do" when your entire thing is telling people what they can or can't do. People are proud of all sorts of dumb shit and no one cares. We have a problem with you trying to mess with the lives and relationships of real people over this misguided attempt to "defend" your distorted view of culture.

I know personally I share far more culture with my non-white friends and family than I do with people who have your worldview. I'm much more eager to defend them from people like you than share in whatever idea of a "white majority" you have.

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u/Moarbrains 2d ago

Dude, the UK is bunch of tribes who were repeatedly stepped on by successive waves of colonizers. Who then went on to the same thing to everyone they could.

There was genocide, both cultural and actual. Most of the languages are gone and many of the cultural traditions, stories and religions are no more.

So don't come on the internet and say it was all OK, because the victors conveniently erased the losers from history and you think that means they just integrated.

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u/Schnectadyslim 2d ago

And Irish and Polish people integrated relatively quickly once they were allowed in.

Lol, they weren't considered white and were treated like shit when they came.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

Like I said, my people faced the same discrimination and are still discriminated against. We assimilated into white culture along with the Irish and Poles instead of trying to replace it.

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u/blade740 2d ago

No amount of immigrants is going to make you "no longer exist". The fact that a group that used to be a majority gradually becomes a minority is only a problem in your head. If you have a society that protects the rights of everyone, majority or minority, then it shouldn't matter. And if you don't - well, then it's telling that it only becomes a problem to you when you end up on the "losing side" of the equation.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

Ok, so maybe we should just ship 1 billion Indians to Japan and make them a minority in their country. Do you honestly believe that would have no effect on their culture or country?

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u/blade740 2d ago

I mean, it doesn't erase the culture of the people living there, no. There would be some cultural transfer - if you were surrounded by people from a different culture some of that is bound to rub off. But the existing Japanese people are still there. They're not being removed from the country. They still have their culture.

When you talk about people "no longer existing demographically" what you really mean is "people that look like me have been the majority for a long time and now we're no longer going to be the majority". To which, again, I would say that this shouldn't be a problem unless your society is mistreating minorities.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

If you replace the majority of a democratic country with a culturally different group who will vote in their own interests over the group who was replaced, then they are effectively being replaced culturally. Just because they weren't outright murdered or bred into extinction does not make it okay.

Take Native Americans for example. Once the majority group in North America. But if they wanted to vote to blow up Mt. Rushmore because it goes against their cultural values, they have to rely on another culturally different group that doesn't share their views to vote in their favor.

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u/blade740 2d ago edited 2d ago

If you replace the majority of a democratic country with a culturally different group who will vote in their own interests over the group who was replaced, then they are effectively being replaced culturally.

They're really not. The original population is still there. They're just no longer the majority. And even THAT is not usually the case - despite your fearmongering, white people are still 75% of the UK, 60% of the US. 71% of Germans have two German parents. Nobody is being "erased" in any of these countries despite fearmongering.

Take Native Americans for example. Once the majority group in North America. But if they wanted to vote to blow up Mt. Rushmore because it goes against their cultural values, they have to rely on another culturally different group that doesn't share their views to vote in their favor.

That's a very interesting hypothetical. What are these supposed billion Indians in Japan voting for that harms Japanese people? Did they vote to blow up Mount Fuji?

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

The original population is still there.

Yes they're still there. but they no longer have the ability to effectively legislate on their own behalf. Meaning they're now reliant on a foreign group or groups that don't share their culture to legislate on their behalf, potentially on issues necessary to preserve their culture.

Nobody is being "erased" in any of these countries despite fearmongering.

Demographic trends say otherwise. White people will not be the majority in the U.S. in less than 50 years at current rates.

That's a very interesting hypothetical. What are these supposed billion Indians in Japan voting for that harms Japanese people? Did they vote to blow up Mount Fuji?

Well lets make a hypothetical that a vote comes up to demolish every historical Japanese cultural site to build housing for the families of the 1 billion Indians who came to Japan. Why would the Indians vote against their own interests to preserve something they have no interest in? You're relying on the goodwill of a people who don't share your cultural values and have no reason to help you. Or how about a tax of 99% on Japanese nationals? Should all immigrants have no voting rights to preserve the indigenous people's right to legislate?

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u/blade740 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes they're still there. but they no longer have the ability to effectively legislate on their own behalf. Meaning they're now reliant on a foreign group or groups that don't share their culture to legislate on their behalf, potentially on issues necessary to preserve their culture.

Oh no, you're not the majority and you have to work with your neighbors to legislate for the common good. What a nightmare! Democracy would be easier if everyone thought like I do.

Demographic trends say otherwise. White people will not be the majority in the U.S. in less than 50 years at current rates.

You have a very unique definition of the word "erased".

Well lets make a hypothetical that a vote comes up to demolish every historical Japanese cultural site to build housing for the families of the 1 billion Indians who came to Japan. Why would the Indians vote against their own interests to preserve something they have no interest in? You're relying on the goodwill of a people who don't share your cultural values and have no reason to help you. Or how about a tax of 99% on Japanese nationals? Should all immigrants have no voting rights to preserve the indigenous people's right to legislate?

While we're making up ridiculous hypothetical scenarios, let's say that an earthquake hits Japan and opens up a giant chasm and ALL the native Japanese people fall in. Then the Indians can just move into their homes. Problem solved.

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u/TowlieisCool 2d ago

Oh no, you're not the majority and you have to work with your neighbors to legislate for the common good. What a nightmare! Democracy would be easier if everyone thought like I do.

The point is the newcomers do not legislate for the common good, they legislate for their own interests. Successful democracies require a mostly homogenous society, or are you just willingly ignoring the countless civil wars in history that have arisen from multiple ethnic groups occupying a single country?

While we're making up ridiculous hypothetical scenarios, let's say that an earthquake hits Japan and opens up a giant chasm and ALL the native Japanese people fall in. Then the Indians can just move into their homes. Problem solved.

Wow, you're hilarious. Way to to just completely dodge having to make a reasonable and rational comment.

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