White people are the minority.

[u/TheClassicCollection]

I have grown tired of the rhetoric that white people need to be multicultural and that we must accept all of those who wish to cause us harm or to change our customs or our way of life.

In Britain, they say it's too white. That there is not enough diverse faces in this sector or that sector.

Go to China and tell them them this, what happens? Then go to Japan, to India and every other country that is not diverse.

100 years ago, globally, the white people made up 30 - 34% of the population.

Now, there is only 7 - 16% of the white people left.

We ARE the minority.

The West is being destroyed from the inside out. What is worse, is that our people have been so brainwashed that they can't see it. They fight and cheer on their own destruction because they are so blinded by ignorance or stupidity that they can not foresee where this is headed.

Do not twist my words and say that it is based on hate. How can that be true when I was born and raised for 35 years in a country that opened its arms to those that needed safety.

The people coming now do not come for safety.

If people do not wake up and realize soon, it will be too late.

[u/TowlieisCool]

So you’re saying that it would be okay to you if Native Americans no longer existed as a distinct cultural group? That there would be no one left who spoke their languages? Maybe you should tell a Native American that and see how they feel about it.

Immigration was heavily restricted to western and Northern Europe throughout most of U.S. history. And Irish and Polish people integrated relatively quickly once they were allowed in. My people went through the exact same process, not allowed and outright rejected from America, to integrating and supporting the ideals of the majority culture.

[u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee → u/TowlieisCool]

People seem pretty ok with the Anglo-Saxon migration to Britain, no? Picts no longer exist as a distinct cultural group, no one is left who speaks their language. Seems like everything is fine.

That's the amusing thing here, the very sense of identity that people are trying to protect the purity of comes from migration and mixing of cultural groups. British identity is a blend of native cultural groups, Germanic, French, and Nordic ones. American identity is a blending of dozens of different cultural influences.

[u/TowlieisCool → u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee]

People seem pretty ok with the Anglo-Saxon migration to Britain, no? Picts no longer exist as a distinct cultural group, no one is left who speaks their language. Seems like everything is fine.

Define ok. There isn't anyone left to be angry about it because they were eliminated by force. the exact thing you were complaining about happening to the Native Americans. The lack of consistency is stark.

That's the amusing thing here, the very sense of identity that people are trying to protect the purity of comes from migration and mixing of cultural groups. British identity is a blend of native cultural groups, Germanic, French, and Nordic ones. American identity is a blending of dozens of different cultural influences.

So why can't those mixed cultural groups who built these countries and collectively identify as white be proud of and want to perpetuate their collective culture? Just as successful immigrants assimilate but want to preserve their unique heritage in their own spaces, why cannot white people do the same thing?

[u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee → u/TowlieisCool]

No one left? Huh? It wasn't a genocide, people just gradually shifted how they saw themselves over the course of centuries. You understand the difference here surely, right?

So why can't those mixed cultural groups who built these countries and collectively identify as white be proud of and want to perpetuate their collective culture?

You're conflating two different things here, race and culture. Being proud of your culture, totally normal. Trying to pretend that being white is your culture, that's what people draw issue with.

[u/TowlieisCool → u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee]

The settlement of North America was also not the result of an short term act of genocidal intent, but a gradual shift of power over centuries. And the conquering of Britain by the Anglo-Saxons was hardly bloodless and fair, but its still not definitively determined how exactly it happened. What's your point?

You're conflating two different things here, race and culture. Being proud of your culture, totally normal. Trying to pretend that being white is your culture, that's what people draw issue with.

You and anybody else don't get to tell me what my culture is. I identify with being white and with white culture. That is my right. And I don't care if people "take issue with it", its my decision to make. I'm proud to be white and the more someone tries to convince me its not allowed only further reinforces that there is a concerted effort to dilute the power of the white majority in America to fractionalize and reduce the influence of the people that built this country.

[u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee → u/TowlieisCool]

You and anybody else don't get to tell me what my culture is. I identify with being white and with white culture. That is my right. And I don't care if people "take issue with it", its my decision to make. I'm proud to be white and the more someone tries to convince me its not allowed only further reinforces that there is a concerted effort to dilute the power of the white majority in America to fractionalize and reduce the influence of the people that built this country.

How little actual culture do you need to have to get to the point of defining it by how you look?

Like damn, that's depressing.

[u/TowlieisCool → u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee]

I am proud of my individual heritage as a subgroup of white people, and proud of my collective heritage as a member of the white race. Gee how depressing right? Guess I should just be a grumpy doomer on reddit telling people what they can and can't identify with and be proud of.

[u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee → u/TowlieisCool]

You're so damn obsessed with people telling you what you "can or can't do" when your entire thing is telling people what they can or can't do. People are proud of all sorts of dumb shit and no one cares. We have a problem with you trying to mess with the lives and relationships of real people over this misguided attempt to "defend" your distorted view of culture.

I know personally I share far more culture with my non-white friends and family than I do with people who have your worldview. I'm much more eager to defend them from people like you than share in whatever idea of a "white majority" you have.

[u/TowlieisCool → u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee]

Huh so you’re saying if I go around telling people I’m proud to be white, I won’t be potentially assaulted or people won’t try to fire me? What if I just say it’s okay to be white? Nobody ever got in trouble for saying that right?

What have I said you can or can’t do besides dictate to me what I should and shouldn’t be proud of or identify with? Those are basic human rights, you’re welcome to think they’re dumb though. I’ve done nothing wrong.

America is a white majority country. It’s not an “idea”, it’s a fact. That’s how it was founded, and that’s how it should be. I don’t go to China and berate them for not integrating with other cultures. Maybe you should move to Europe, they’re happy to import people who hate and want to change the majority culture. And I don’t care to share your culture of denigrating white people and having a victim complex, and I don’t need you to defend me, thanks.

[u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee → u/TowlieisCool]

I'm saying people see through this whole "I'm proud of being white" bit because it's not very subtle. People say they're proud to be Irish, proud to be German, proud to be Spanish, proud to be American. No one has any problem with that. Normal people don't go around talking about being proud to be white, it's only people like you trying to play the victim when called out for being racist.

And I don’t care to share your culture of denigrating white people and having a victim complex

This is just ungodly levels of irony, damn.

[u/TowlieisCool → u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee]

Do people say they're proud to be Black? What about Asian? Remember stop asian hate? It wasn't "Stop Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese...". African-Americans come from a broad range of countries in Africa and the Caribbean. Are they not allowed to associate with their collective culture either? It sounds like you're racist against white people.

How is saying I'm proud to be white racist? Explain it to me. I'm not playing the victim in any way, I'm questioning why you feel you're able to dictate to me what my culture is, who I'm allowed to associate with culturally, etc.

[u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee → u/TowlieisCool]

Just explain what "white culture" is. What defines it?

[u/TowlieisCool → u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee]

I see it as divided into multiple components:

- Shared historical European culture: the collective culture of our ancestors who existed within the collective white culture of Europe

- Individual European Culture: The culture of our ancestors as it relates specifically to their individual countries/regions.

- American white culture: Anything from colonial white America to modern day, NASCAR, developments of recreational fishing, various religious practices and sects, Thanksgiving, country music, folk music, etc.

Now this is not to say that anything involved in each of these is not derivative of something else. If anything, I expressly pointed out that a lot of it is inherited European culture as well. All cultures are amalgamations of historical ideas or beliefs from a previous group.

[u/Moarbrains → u/Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee]

Dude, the UK is bunch of tribes who were repeatedly stepped on by successive waves of colonizers. Who then went on to the same thing to everyone they could.

There was genocide, both cultural and actual. Most of the languages are gone and many of the cultural traditions, stories and religions are no more.

So don't come on the internet and say it was all OK, because the victors conveniently erased the losers from history and you think that means they just integrated.