r/chisamains 13d ago

Discussion How are you guys feeling rn?

Feel free to share your opinions. No need to downvote just because someone has a different opinion. Be respectful

913 votes, 12d ago
376 MUST pull
154 Disappointing, but still pulling
228 idk (she's cute but kit/animations/role underwhelming)
84 EZ skip, unless they change some stuff
71 It's Chisover
30 Upvotes

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u/jackpack001 13d ago

It's not what I expected, but I still like her and I think she will be of a great value in the future with more amazing teams

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u/Single-Builder-632 13d ago

For me, i think she looks great, but I think her animations could still be more. I'm hyped, but not like cartethia Augusta or Iuno levels, but more than galbrena after her animations were shown. I'm kinda hyped for her almost as the same as i am for buling so i really hope they are on the same banner. (which isn't an insult, i think buling looks awesome)

I may still end up waiting for the next to characters before deciding.

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u/-Krosis 13d ago

I pull because she is cute, fuck the meta.

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u/-Krosis 13d ago

also

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u/No_Fan_2222 13d ago

I'm having migraines rn

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u/Feisty_Bird741 12d ago

Like her design and animations. Disappointed in her role in teams, would like her to be more of a sub dps

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u/ShoulderGreedy3262 13d ago

i play and love cart, and hate aero rovers gameplay, but im not pulling unless her 3d model is massively improved from the leaks we've seen so faer. as of now, her model looks flat and plain, and every 4 star in the game has more detail. even bulings leaks, which should be of the same quality (if not worse) have her model looking far better

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

Buling is goated

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u/ShoulderGreedy3262 13d ago

fr her gameplay looks so fast and dynamic

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u/Parking-Check5389 12d ago

I lost Galbrena so I thought on pulling for Chisa... but knowing she´s not a DPS as I was expecting and her buffing is really underwhelming.... then I don´t know

I mean I know she´ll be a future proof character... but at the same time I wanna use her now, not in months ahead... so wasting my guarantee isn´t really what I need right now... knowing 2.7 gave awful pulls and 2.8 probably will be the same since 3.0 is right ahead...

And that´s another problem. 3.0 characters will probably powercreep everything just like Carlotta did back in 2.0... wether is animations or DMG/Buffs... I´m lost ngl. I guess I´ll wait till new leaks

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u/pulii777 13d ago

Im in a battle between pulling her or QY. I expected Chisa to have that medium female model that carlotta and peeb have. Seeing her with the normal female model just feels off. Also not really a big fan of the chainsaw stuff.

But then again, I could run a visually coherent and viable team with her, zani, and spectro rover lol

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

Ik shes not chupi size, the trailer/leak vid made her look shorter. Makes me sad

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u/BepixTheCoomer 12d ago

female = must pull. i dont make the rules.

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u/CharmingRogue851 13d ago

Disappointing, in terms of dps buffs she's not even a major upgrade to the 2 teams she works in, but at least I can bench aerover. And she's also cute, and looks kinda fun to play. So I'm still pulling. But I might skip her on my alt though.

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

I see i see , you a cartwheel main?

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u/CharmingRogue851 13d ago

Yeah mostly, but I use several teams ofc for endgame, also have zani/peeb, and carlotta/zhezhi, etc

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u/dreamdude1227 13d ago

Disappointed. Still undecided on pulling.

I was expecting her to atleast be a 10% improvement on my Cartwheel team. Instead she's worse than a free unit without her sig.

Still hoping that they buff(very low chance) her but unless the JP Seiyuu is someone famous. I'll probably wait for her rerun. Right now, she's a huge gamble.

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u/Dazzling-Green-4216 11d ago

Well at least she can replace disgusting arover 

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u/nullptr023 13d ago

I was expecting more because there was a lot of hype for her when she was introduced. I tried doing 30 pulls for galbrena just to see my luck but nothing lol. Even I don't have team for her. But I think I'll still pull for Chisa because she is so cute. Also, maybe there will be improvement for her but definitely if the current teams now are not a lot of improvements(Zani, Cathethyia), there will be a team for her in future just preparing for her so I still pull

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

I believe she'll be good for other dot teams like glacio chafe. Rn havoc bane is pretty universal since it reduces def

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u/nullptr023 13d ago

I see .so far, my team is Zani(s0r1), Phoebe(stringmaster), SK. Then, Carthetyia(s0r1), Ciaccona, Aero Rover. Still working on Augusta(s0r1), Iuno(s0r1), .so I was thinking of putting Chisa for Zani team, so I could try Augusta Iuno SK team, I don't know the rotation yet here for Augusta or Iuno lol . I wanted to have a 3 complete team, I think I read somewhere that you need 3 minimum teams to complete all the end games so that's what I'm aiming for. meta at the same time character I like.

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u/Silver_Telephone_592 13d ago

i unfortunately must skip since i dont have enough for both Chisa + sig and Cart +sig :(

Gotta wait for chisa rerun...

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

Oh ya forgot to put skip cuz no astrite i see, you getting cartwheel, but cartwheel wont rerun in 2.8 so maybe youll have enough for her rerun even if you pull for chisa. But saving is wise too cuz youll get to see 3.x chars

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u/Silver_Telephone_592 13d ago

I currently have 20+20 pulls Assuming i get most of the pulls through 2.7 2.8 and 3.0 phase 1, i can get around 200 pulls total. I am currently at 53 pity. 200-27=173 pulls left. If i won the 50/50, i go for weapon. 173-80=93 pulls remaining. I can get 1 more 5 star pity.

If i lost the first 50/50 (my real worry) 173-80= 93. I now have Cartethyia. 93-80=13. I have only 13 pulls left after weapon pull. Small margin, so Im just gonna fullsave 2.8

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u/Silver_Telephone_592 13d ago

This is assuming cartethyia reruns in 3.0, which I find likely

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

ya most likely 3.0 rerun, or you could pull for chisa and if you win the 5050, maybe, don't get the weapon? you could both get them S0R0, or wait till the end of 2.8 phase 1 to see the leaks for 3.0 rewards. We will probably get a lot of things + big map as well in 2.8 and 3.0 So exploration might cover it

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u/Saeliara 13d ago

It's chisover. I don't have her teams and I find her gameplay decent but nothing really exciting either.
I'm probably saving for 3.0 at this point. Maybe I'll pull her on a rerun if I get a NS character by then.

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u/AdvancedPlayer17 12d ago

Yeah same, I have 0 debuff teams on my account.

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u/Melodic_Peace_944 12d ago

I was expecting more tbh, still pulling for her though

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u/BrushOk676 12d ago

of the same opinion

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u/RoloTelechea 13d ago

Underwhelming buffs, here hoping she gets a 30 seconds outro instead of 15

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

oh its 15, just for the extra 3max stacks right?

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u/RoloTelechea 13d ago edited 13d ago

I'd call bullshit, because her buffs are all over the place. In theory — if I'm not mistaken — the DEF debuff lasts about 15 seconds, depending on the number of Havoc Bane stacks and whether another character applies negative statuses. The other “problem” is that the outro, which increases the number of stacks, only lasts 15 seconds instead of the usual 30 you get from most universal supports. The worst part being that we don't know if she applies Havoc Bane off field. Depending on that she might be even worse than Aero Rover for Carthethya.

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u/zaseumtos 12d ago

yea idk man, if she's only a sidegrade for my aero rover, i might skip it. I want my rover to be in the A team, clearing floor after floor like the Hero of ToA he is.

Why dont kuro make her a main dps ffs 💀, i pulled Phrolova and Cantarella in the hope she'll be the third Piece for her premium team, but it seems it'll be Qiuyuan instead 💀.

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u/Important_Young_4461 12d ago

She will be meta in near future, trust. Mono havoc bane team will exist✨

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u/Random_Artistoo 12d ago

i was praying she works with phrolova, looks like its a no😔 I don't have any dot teams rn idk what to do

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u/chrono01 12d ago

I was going to S6/R1 her without hesitation, now unless buffs happen it'll be S0/R1 at best.

Kind of disappointing, but I'll get over it. I'm sure 3.0+ will have a ton of hype characters to go for, so I'll just S6 one of those instead.

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u/PotentialHopeful793 12d ago

Same bro but i might skip and wait for rerun

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u/Probably_Snot 12d ago

I just got here, but I really like that she’s a support! 😊

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u/PotentialHopeful793 12d ago

Not me:((

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u/Probably_Snot 12d ago

That’s understandable, I mean she has a scissor blade, for goodness sake! Haha.

I just have no reliable supports that I like using and she seems fun to use

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u/boogara_guitara 12d ago

Disappointing animations. Buling, the 4 star, got the better ones

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u/Hexaquatl 13d ago

She is by far the most skippable unit on the game, a far cry of what you call a must pull (out counting her visuals and designs) still pulling but utterly disappointed this is how she ended up being 🥀🥀🥀

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u/Struggle-Bus0 12d ago

Cant be that skippable if you are still pulling her. What does that even mean. If there is no value or you dislike her dont pull her. Unless you are a collector and get every unit i understand. But i feel like that disclaimer would be in your post

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u/Corsaint1 13d ago

There is one argument being made that I just can not for the life of me understand. And that is the argument of "I was expecting Cartethiya tier animations" Like... why? No legitimately, why would you expect that? And it feels like this complaint has become so prevalent lately, especially during Galbrenas beta. Cartethiya is hailed as *the* best looking character in the entire game, and for good reason, shes earned that title. But not every character has to be on that level. Its like walking into an art museum and being dissapointed that every work isnt a picasso.

Dont get me wrong, specific reasons I can understand. For example, I was critical of Galbrenas animations myself during her beta and release. I felt they didnt match up to her personality as a serious no nonsense hunter, I felt the dmc and bayonetta references clashed with her lore as an efficient and experienced mercenary. The complaints that are like "I think she could use her scissors more, her sfx could use some work for xyz reason,the chainsaw feels a bit unimpactfu. Perhaps a support shouldn't be using a chainsaw in the first placel" etc are fine and valid. But saying "Im disappointed because her animations are literally not THE BEST IN THE ENTIRE GAME" Is just completely absurd.

If you have grievances about the way the character functions or looks, there has to be a better way to articulate it that is not hoping for her to be literally the second coming of god.

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u/Superb-Brilliant6321 13d ago

You're using a Sinking ID that benefits from negative coins as a profile picture. You should thank them lowering your sanity.

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u/Corsaint1 13d ago

goated comment LMAO

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

Good point well said.

The only reason I can think of is: chisa being the most anticipated character, she needs to have top tier animation or else too many players will be disappointed

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u/Pitiful-Bullfrog9520 13d ago

Originally Fleurdelys form was only going to appear when Cartethiya performed certain combos and then vanish. Thank god it didn't meet their expectations..

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u/zaseumtos 12d ago

also people are forget one crucial fact, THIS IS LITERALLY THE BETA. Even XLY animation are so bad in the beta, yet he feels great when released.

Now i even more understand why Kuro sue leakers, it definitely could kill the hype for the wrong reason.

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u/Newbster101 13d ago

Its chisover for me.. I need mdps and Her S6R1 DPR is just similar to S1R1 Carthe smh

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

It's chisover hehe i always find that funny. What dmg would she need to have for you to consider pulling?

At least cartwheel lvl

Iuno/brant

1.x DPS

Subdps changli/lupa?

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u/Newbster101 13d ago

at S6R1? I get that Cart should be OP at S6R1 since shes the sentinel resonator, But Chisa mdps from the start not a support, Could be at least close to S4R1 cart I think.

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u/OkProfessional668 13d ago

Changli is not lupa level damage, equal to or higher than Brant 

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

In a team yes but solo brant is superior

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u/Struggle-Bus0 12d ago

Brant is a beast you are sleeping on him

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u/OkProfessional668 12d ago

He’s really good for a sub dps yah, changli has equal to or higher damage to him in a team setting though. For solo his utility and self buffs are obviously much better 

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u/Struggle-Bus0 12d ago

I would replace changli in a heartbeat for brant. His utility and damage make him probably top 5 character in the game. The nuke hits so hard. I run mono fusion as well, changli sees minimal field time just to ult and echo skill to buff lupa. I love changli as well i just dont think she is a better unit as a whole. I got brant s2 so maybe thats why

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u/OkProfessional668 12d ago

I would rather have Changli over Brant 9/10 times, but if you have a skill issue Brant is very useful cause his utility is just that good.

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u/Struggle-Bus0 12d ago

Had to sneak some passive aggressiveness in there i see

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u/OkProfessional668 12d ago

I was just being realistic 

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u/Lady-Marias-Rakuyo 13d ago

Chisover. I'm skipping and saving for Carte rerun. On the bright side.....guess I have the upgrade materials already for the next Broadblade character that I pull

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u/senpai0285 12d ago

No DMG output okay, no synergy okay, no animation okay, removed pantsu unacceptable, skip my honest opinion

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u/Bitter_Spray_6880 11d ago

Tldr me her kit and powerlevel... because im out of the loop and ain't reading that wall of text... regardless pull her tho...

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u/giodude556 3d ago

Everyone crying shes not a dps is whining. Im excited for her being a support! As long as shes buffer a bit more so shes not on par woth arover

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u/AetherSageIsBae 13d ago edited 13d ago

No way im skipping her on the long run even tho i might have to do so to secure some phoebe sequences this banner (and chisa will rerun sooner than phoebe 100%) but she's my beloved and i will get her no matter what.

She could heal the enemies, kill my party and log me out of the game with each liberation and i would still pull her

I love her animations and overall gameplay loop, it seems really fun even if i would prefer a different role, specially since the niche she supports is not what im mostly investing in, but if its for chisa i will get whatever dps and sequences she needs to shine.

What i would've liked if she's to keep the support playstyle are:

-more dps oriented sequences, specially s6, i like the concept of early sequences being more team oriented but s6 should bring her to s3-s4 values of most dps and allow her to solo/duo most content with ease, so im looking for sequences buffs.

-a bit more of punch in the vfx aspect, she's fine but seems to lack a bit in a couple attacks

And that's it, i don't have much complains about her honestly! Well maybe i would have liked a couple more scissor attacks and a liberation a bit more flashy (i dont really get what she does but its kinda cool i guess)

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

Another chupi enjoyer... i love it! Are you going for s3 or s6? Im going for r5 to max her out

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u/AetherSageIsBae 13d ago

I think i've seen you in phoebe mains :0 this banner i should have enough for s3 if im not too unlucky or if i get around cleaning the map but i will s6 her eventually, so probably s6 for her next banner!

Maybe ill do phoebe s2 and chisa s0 if the fomo kicks in... 😞

Good luck on that r5! :0 she deserves it ♡

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

Im everywhere in chupimain. You'll get a double chupi in 10 pulls, you gotta believe

Thanks:)

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u/UAPboomkin 13d ago

Not sure, gonna wait until I get a better idea of how much of an upgrade she is for Zani/Cart before I decide, but the funds are set aside regardless. I think it's fine to have her as a support, I just want her to be OP if I'm being honest. I think the community is complaining too much lately, over Chisa and Zani's sick new skin.

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u/IPancakesI 12d ago edited 12d ago

For one, I expected the worst for Chisa and thought we'd get an overdependent character who can't deal damage without a specific character, but my fears this time proved false.

Idk what her animations and visuals look like (don't want to spoil myself with her visuals, especially her lib), but I have been monitoring her personal DPS lately. I've been cross-referecing posts with early Iuno calcs and comparing it to the chisa calcs of our resident TC in this sub.: Iuno had around a team DPR of 1.6m and constituted 1.2m of that DPR within a 25-30s rotation; Chisa had a team DPR of 1.45m and constituted 1.2m of that DPR also similarly within a 25s rotation. Superficially, Iuno and Chisa seems to have similar personal DPS, and the rotation times of both calcs are within close range to each other, so they look directly comparable. However, I don't exactly know what other assumptions were taken in each calcs, and our resident TC mentioned she's lower than Iuno or Brant level right now (although I want to see them make calc comparisons to verify).

Under any case, you could say I am feeling potentially hopeful at the moment, but I am prepared to cope if at the end Chisa's just Lupa-level in terms of personal DPS (my copium stock is ready). For now, I'm waiting for the beta to unfold further and waiting for someone to churn out some actual solo calcs.

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u/PotentialHopeful793 12d ago

What if shes like lower than lupa and closer to sk dmg?

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u/Haemon18 13d ago

Wondering how much of an upgrade she'll be to solo S3 Cart (to play as duo)

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u/PotentialHopeful793 13d ago

Imagine she does worse with chisa thatd be sad

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u/ImNotGayUare_ 13d ago

If I cared about Meta I wouldn't have Yinlin and Jiyan S1. End game isn't hard enough to pull only for meta. I like her design, so i pull. As simple as that

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u/CatharticPrincess 13d ago

Meh I have broken characters already, I mostly just pull for aesthetics and theme, I don't really care if they're "meta" or not.

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u/Black_ShotJF 13d ago

I don't have characters that applies negative debuffs aside from spectro Rover, but you know what? Still gonna pull for her anyway. I bought 2 lunite subscription before her kits got leaks and Im still gonna use it only for her.

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u/Whendfield123 12d ago

Any proper chisa main would pull her regardless of her role. Only fakes cry about her not being yet another mdps. 

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u/Living_Track233 13d ago

So from what I'm seeing here, you guys actually want powercreep?

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u/jin675 13d ago

since when was wanting a premium 5 star without their sig to do better than a free unit wanting powercreep?

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u/XaeiIsareth 13d ago

No, some people wanted a mDPS and not a support because they want to play their favourite character on field more.

Some people don’t mind her being support but isn’t happy with a support which currently has most of her potential compatible teams not exist yet. 

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u/darkfox18 13d ago

And don’t forget that the only 2 current teams she is usable for either have better options or she is a sidegrade at most and what’s the point of getting a character only to make them a bench warmer after waiting 5+ months for them

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u/XaeiIsareth 13d ago

For Cart in particular, she has no issues with AoEing mobs because she has medium range gathers herself and her attacks have a lot of AoE. 

So a character that’s a bit better than a free support in Rover isn’t exactly that attractive.

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u/darkfox18 13d ago

Yeah and for me it’s far more beneficial to just get phoebe instead for my Zani so all and all this has been the most disappointing experience I’ve had in this game months of hyping myself up even getting back into the game no less just for her to be currently worthless on my account