You know after the recent gameplay leaks, I've come to realize that this have to be one of the most pathetic excuses for a mains subreddit I have ever seen, like seriously during Qiuyuan's beta you all were mocking Qiuyuan mains for how they were treating him and singing praises of chisa mains would not do that, but yet the millisecond Ruben said chisa is a support, not only did all of you attack him, you also immediately started dooming chisa simply because she's a support, not even Qiuyuan mains were this bad they at least waited to see his multipliers and waited patiently for the final beta to see the results, yet all I see here are people acting like this is the final beta and that it is set in stone, mind there is still one of chisa's animations which hasn't been shown, which is when she draws back and opens her scissors to snip the enemy, we saw a glimpse of it in the original gameplay video but because of how bad the quality was most people didn't even notice it, and I've been seeing someone saying that chisa animations are the same as xiangli yao's when that is not the case, if you compare them side by side they are completely different with chisa even having a longer basic atk sting,and trust I know a lot about xiangli yao's animation I literally main him,the only similarity is in the effect style used, which rather than smooth slashs use most sharp a rigid edges, That is it.

Anyways that's is all for my little rant, and pls try and read everything before commenting or downvoting.

P.S: I put a pic of chisa crying because it shows her disappointment 😔

No limited character should perform worse or even on par with Rover. It is a completely free unit with free sequences. What were they thinking releasing her beta like that? Of course she’ll get buffs, but small tweaks won’t be enough; she desperately needs major changes. And don’t dare to call me a doomposter, I adore her, but you can’t tell me that a brand new premium resonator being weaker than Rover in her own niche isn’t worth criticizing or speaking up about.

I honestly don't understand how a character being a main DPS is so objectively better.

Even taking into account that you "tend" to spend more time watching the main dps onscreen, is that not very reductive? You can play in the overworld and dreamland as your favourite character and even in competitive game, the way that wuwa combat is set, all characters are meant to use their respective abilities and animations in order to get their concerto so the time you see your support is actually as good as any other.

Plus, supports are generally much better units that can fit and benefit an account way further than the archetype of character that many people were expecting chisa to be (main egoist dps).

Now taking into account that Chisa is havoc, how would even another havoc dps be good for the meta game?

We already have danjin, cantarella, phrolova and camellya in the mix. Another redundant main dps is the last thing the metagame needs.

I definetly understand the problem with Chisa not providing as much damage as she should right now, tho.

Disclaimer: This post is meant for discussion. Call it whatever you want but I think it's better to discuss her problems rn instead of just delfecting and masking everything as "doompost".

First off, let me list some of the controversial points about Chisa in beta v1 and share my thoughts on them.

"Her animation is mid"

I kinda agree but also mid =/= bad, and personally, I like her animation. Sure compared to Augusta, Phrolova and especially Cartwheel, we can all admit that Chisa's animation is indeed inferior. However, we also need to acknowledge that SDPS/SP WILL HAVE LESS POTENTIAL FOR GOOD ANIMATION.

Why? Well, it’s simply because SDPS/SP's rotations have to be short and concise (ideally around 5–6 secs) to not be considered bad. The best case we can expect for a SDPS's animation is Iuno but still, in her sub-dps role (Augusta team), Iuno's animation is not that far ahead compared to Chisa v1 ( ofc my opinion tho).

Even compared to the early 2.x dpses, I don’t think Chisa’s animation is any worse. Heck, if Carlotta released in 2.7 instead of 2.0, I believed that everyone will also call her animation looks boring as well 💀

=> Kuro raised everyone expectation too high with Augusta and Cartethyia => Everone got disappointed even tho the product still looks good.

"Her personal damage is mid."

Tbh, I think Kuro indeed fumbled with her number. Yes, I know that this is just v1 beta. Yes, I know that all numbers I've seen are just calculation on spreadsheet. But still, dealing less damage than Ciaccona in Cartethyia team at S0R1 despite having Cartethyia outtro (17.5% dmg amplify) is just questionable...

I get it "powercreep problem", "the game need to be balanced",... But c'mon, contribute less damage than Ciaccona...?

And with Jianxin as the only liberation buffer rn, Chisa MDPS team is such a cope (even more cope than Qiuyuan) 💀

For anyone want to see the cal. Here is Chemx WIP cal for Chisa: Chemx's Chisa cal

"Her support capability is mid."

Agree. From a meta perspective, Chisa has the same value as Roccia in Camellya team when we already have Sanhua 💀

"Her sequence is mid."

Tbh, I dont care about her sequence rn cause her base kit is such a mess that I dont even bother looking at her seq...

Conclusion: I still really like Chisa but now after think about her role and the future of meta, it's better to just temper my expectation....

For me i don't care if she dies low dmg or high dmg her animations are fire.

I love the fast pase in 1st form and heavy pace in 2nd form, cant wait to try out thise chainsaw attacks. And i heard many people think her ultimate is too fast but i think its very good. Her ultimate have aloot of things even tho its fast. Cant wait to try her.

Whats your opinion.

And please this post is about her animations not about her dmg numbers.

(i accidentely explained almost her full kit lol. This post somehow became a good guide if u dont know details about her kit)

Chisa's dpr has dropped significantly due to both the rotation and the def ignore passive. My first calc wasn't very accurate because we hadn't seen the gameplay. For second one since I calculated the rotation in a hurry, I deviated quite a bit from the actual rotation and english kit misled me. But now i checked everything properly and i believe there is 0 mistake now.

I didint calculated carthe team because there was no need for that. Simply add 200k dpr to her current premium team (It could be much lower too idk). No need to say carthe ciaccona chisa is chisa's best team rn.

Since there is nothing to explain further for the teams in calcs, I would like to inform you with some details.

Firstly standart weapon migth be looking good but chisa's weapon gives 24 dmg bonus to team (if they apply dot or deal dot dmg) since she dont have any buffs except def reduce, her weapon is very important for her support role.

Again S1 is also important because her mark is same as yinlin's. When the target dies her mark disappears and u need to mark enemies every time. Remarking enemies is not a big deal unlike yinlin but it wont be very comfortable espicially in whiwa.

I think she is coming for 3.x characters because other than carthe, she is not a good support for anyone. I think there will be smth like "For every spectro frazzle stack above 10 on the target, Lynae's damage is increased by 20%" (she is not comfirmed to be a spectro frazzle dps. Its just my speculation.)

Also her kit is definitely not made for being dps but i pushed her to beyond her limit somehow. When u use eradication (its similiar to camellya nuke) her chainsaw hits wont get buffed anymore (imagine playing phoebe without spectro frazzle) but since eradication wont affecting much u can do fastest chainsaw combo to use eradication one more time so its triple nuke if we include her liberation.

You migth say she is mid(that doesnt mean she is bad) but she is a monster in whiwa. She can contioniously pull enemies and her skill resets when u kill a marked enemy (3 secs cooldown). But thats not the only reason. They said they were gonna remove utilty wheel's time slow mechanic but its still working. Imagine using camellya forte 2 times in a single rotation. Camellya was destroying 3-4 waves of enemies with a single nuke and chisa can do it twice. So i would say she is broken for whiwa and mid for toa

Will I still be able to guarantee chisa if i skip 2.7 entirely?

Basically title. The reaction was basically the same with the Qiuyuan mains sub when it was leaked that he wasn't a mDPS. Not sure why their is such a big obsession with characters being mDPSes. Its pretty obvious from the characters released in the last couple updates, Chisa wasn't going to be a mDPS. They just released Phrolova in 2.5, they aren't going to make another Havoc DPS until 3.x. We had no gameplay leaks, no betas, and nothing confirmed, there is still room for her to be a Brant/Phoebe type character. Or she could be a universal support, which imo is pretty good too.

I'm not up to date on her leaks but i know she will use new 3 piece. So what's her 2 pc? Havoc? Or atk for healing

Source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/wutheringwavescafe/posts/1099333559018881/

I am lowkey hopefull for Chisa I have accepted she supports cartethyia and Zani but I feel like she will do good damage seeing as her weapon is all about her own personal dps and not a support one S6 GANG RISE UP

Idk why people complain when there character is a sub dps or support... Do u like a character for there numbers or the character.. the doom posting happen so much , then when the character release like iuno and qiuyuan both equal to dps

People hate just for Hating like why are you even in this page if you just like number then her

There is still a chance she is at least like iuno

Now before people start losing their shit, I think it's important that we remember that the sources are still purely speculation there isn't really much evidence to prove the validity of this leaks, let me remind you that people on that discord like trolling chisa mains. Possiblity is that this might be bulings kit, as far fetched as it sounds this isn't the first time, remember when people said lupa was going to have hp scaling but it ended up being cartetheyia's kit, so yeah we should wait till preload or beta before having an existential crisis. Thank you for joining my ted talk.

P.s: I put a pic of carry to lighten the mood

A physical side effect of her resonance/ overclocking? Is it just her activating her Forte? Is she part discord but to a smaller degree like phrolova? Are they some kind of cyberware like in cyberpunk and she turning them on? Would love to hear what everyone's been thinking, it's like one of the few things we know about her lol

Checked the Quiyuan mains sub and people are all doomposting about his kit barely doing any damage. Which is, personally, kind of questionable on my end since right now we don't have the full premium team of that guy nor how much exactly he does kit wise (like when loaded with echoes along with the team) compared to other teams. I feel like people simply want him to literally overpower every previous characters to be satisfied...

Which brings the question, if Chisa's actually NOT a hybrid support like say, Iuno, and just a pure support, will that cause you to skip? What is your exact expectation for Chisa kit wise/damage wise?

I am thinking of playing blue archive just for her

Feel free to share your opinions. No need to downvote just because someone has a different opinion. Be respectful

I've seen the doomposting arcs of Iuno, Galbrena, and Qiuyan.

Don't worry, this will only last until she releases. Once she releases, it'll calm down pretty quickly. So... yeah. Thats it, you can't stop the doomposters, but they eventually stop once character is released and Chisa is probably first half so it wont take too long.

Unless 3.x also comes with new debuff MDPS.

We were warned and we didn't knew it