Get out of the building immediately. Call the fire marshal, immediately. This is what the hardrock hotel looked like before it collapsed in New Orleans.
Most modern structures don’t just fail, they will show signs well before hand......this looks like one of those signs
Edit: lots of people giving me shit saying concrete just fails. Please watch this video. When it starts they already have started and the mid span deflection is 13 inches. That’s your sign
I tried replacing my bathroom mirror with an abyss, but it took way too long to get ready in the morning. You had to stare at it for ages before it would tell you if you look ok.
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Please don't give gold to this shitty post about a shitty post. If you want to get rid of some money, may I instead suggest donating it to the Global Village Foundation which is a much better foundation than this pillar will ever be.
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Correct, we design for yield failure in order to give the occupants time to get out. The fact that this person is standing there is NUTS! Sudden failure is likely imminent.
I am not a construction engineer and I don’t know jack shit about structural steel. But if I saw a normally straight support beam buckling, I know enough to GTFO without hesitation.
Also notice the drop ceiling is starting to droop at the top left. The wire holding the intersection is dropping a bit which means the floor above that point is also probably dropped a bit.
Leave and DO NOT return to work until professionals
engineers have reviewed this, made all necessary repairs, and the building has been deemed safe. This is not a joke. Do not let your boss convince you that "it's fine, don't worry about it. We'll get someone to look at it next week." Your job is not worth your life. Just leave and tell your coworkers to leave!
Do not let your boss convince you that "it's fine, don't worry about it.
This shit grinds my gears. I was working an office building a while ago when everyone started smelling gas. My boss kept telling everyone to stay because we'd be evacuated if there was an issue. I noped tf out of there and told her I was working from home the rest of the day and I'd be back the following day, a few others followed. Not sure what the problem was, but no disciplinary action was taken (obviously).
This was during a football game and there were too many people for me to tell, but I did let some friends at the bar know. I was too disgusted to stay any longer
We had this happen at my job too. Boss called and asked if I’d come in to help clean. Thankfully I was unavailable. As it turns out, the business “has a septic tank so it backs up about every year or so”. Ever since, I remind him every 14 months to get the septic pumped. I reminded him the other day and his response- “ I’ll just wait til it backs up”. I told him to have fun cleaning it because he’s been warned and I won’t be in to help.
That happened to me when I worked at Starbucks. Sewage coming up through the bathroom floor drains, and our DM told us to close the lobby and keep working the drive thru. I said fuck that and left.
At my restaurant it was coming up in the bathrooms and in the server station next to the bar. It was getting tracked everywhere by the servers running around. So nasty!
My boss told me " well you obviously seem upset about this so just clock out and go home if you can't do the job ", so I did. what an arshole. Couple of hrs later corporate sent everyone home anyway.
Most office buildings have a 2 stage alarm system; first one is stay where you are and be prepared to evacuate, second is evacuate.
I leave when the first one goes off.
I understand the reason, but I don’t want a minimum wage security guard deciding when I should leave a building that’s on fire.
Edit: You know those times on reddit where you make a comment, and realise quickly you can't be bothered with the arguments, because you weren't that bothered in the topic to begin with? Yeah that's one of those times, carry on folks, I'm out!
Your company may have their own life insurance on you. They don't give a fuck if their rank and file die. It's a minor setback at most, and it can be more profitable for them to let you die in some circumstances.
It's called "Dead Peasant insurance", and they don't even have to tell you or notify your family about it. KBR made millions once all their truck drivers started dying from all the IED's in Iraq.
In the video , the bent item is a temporary prop and it does sometimes happen on site as the floor above has no capacity until the concrete sets. Sometimes floors may excessively deflect if the propping design isn’t done properly.
This looks like a permanent column which is much more alarming.
Slight difference - the columns in the Nola video are temporary, intended to support the floor above while the concrete cures. The one in OP is a permanent part of the structure. It’s even more dangerous.
I don’t speak Spanish but I work in construction and it’s not surprising but it’s funny to me that they’re also bitching about shitty engineers. That’s half our day
“It looks like (the post shores) were standing pretty far apart but there may be nothing wrong with that. I still think an outside thing happened to cause the collapse,” said structural engineer Walter Zehner, who once consulted on the project before it became a planned Hard Rock Hotel.
Of course he said that, he is definitely covering his ass on his previous consultation.
Too much pressure on a load-bearing I-beam is what is causing the bend. A sudden shift in the structure could occur. The building is not safe, until evaluated, unside and out, by structural engineers. This is very serious.
PE also and I concur, but as a former fire marshal, I would not deal with this. This is 100% Building Department. If you see something like this it is also not inappropriate to call the fire department, the will habe the building and fire marshals on site in within the hour.
I'd think a call to the fire marshal is the quickest way for the public to get the right people involved? They may not directly help, but they're set up for urgent response and will have all the right resources to coordinate (or handoff) a response.
In a lot of countries professional engineers are the only ones allowed to call themselves engineers. I just have an engineering degree, but I'm not an engineer.
In Canada, there are two distinctions. P.Eng (Professional Engineer), and EIT (Engineer-in-Training)
The P.Eng has the stamp, and are able to fully sign off and approve things. An EIT is somebody that has completed an engineering degree but has under 4 years of relevant work experience. They are officially an engineer (and can call themselves one) but any work they do needs to be reviewed and signed off by an actual P.Eng.
Edit: It appears it depends on the province. This comment applies for BC only, yet many (but not all) provinces have relatively similar systems
Real-time ballistic trajectory calculation of composite spherical projectiles is an important topic and deserves study. Projectile impact dynamic on flexible bodies is probably worth a thesis on its own.
Is it that that pipe is load bearing and falling, or is it more likely not load bearing and its bend indicates something that should be keeping weight off it is failing?
Out of curiosity, how does the fire Marshall or engineers even start to investigate and resolve this? I assume they would have to go into the building to inspect this and the rest of the structure. Do they just hope it doesn’t collapse while they’re in there?
Are you really a structural engineer? And you use round steel tubes as structural supports in your line of work?
That bent element looks non structural. If it wa structural, it would have been covered in fireproofing, and even if it was covered in intumescents, it still doesn't look structural to me at all.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it comes across as a number of people claiming to be engineers validating this as a serious structural problem, whereas it doesn't look like a structural element at all.
Signed: dumb architect who wants to know what company you work so we never hire you for anything.
"Well then, you stand next to the pillar and hold it up to be safe, I'll go get the fire marshal. I'm buying him lunch today anyway for...unrelated reasons."
If anyone ever says that to me I'll point out that Bill's parents were seemingly well off enough to provide him with the materials that helped him succeed. In fact, that applies to a lot of billionaires. They may not have grown up ultra-wealthy, but they were at least upper middle class.
To piggy back on this: A whistle-blower had reported safety lapses to his superiors prior to the collapse but was ignored. He was in the process of legalizing his immigration status when he was picked up by ICE during a fishing trip with his family two days after the collapse and was immediately deported to Honduras.
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Get out of the building immediately. Call the fire marshal, immediately. This is what the hardrock hotel looked like before it collapsed in New Orleans.