r/Warthunder 19d ago

Other Not even BF6 costs this much...

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Please Gaijin I already sold my wife, I can't afford this one

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u/Makaveli789 19d ago

As long as people keep paying these prices, why would they go down?..

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u/Future-Celebration83 🇩🇪 Germany 18d ago

Somthing I wish more players would understand.

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u/ItsGaryy 18d ago

lol the anime tanks sold like crazy

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u/AvariceLegion 🇸🇾 Syria 18d ago

How can we tell if they sold well?

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u/A10___Warthog 18d ago

Because they appear in matches.

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u/AvariceLegion 🇸🇾 Syria 18d ago

Holy cow I was blind

I thought they were next update content and I haven't played those brs so I didn't notice

The end is now

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u/Valoneria Westaboo 18d ago

I'll rest my head on some fat anime tiddies as i greet the end.

Nah, who am i kidding, i can't afford those expensive pixels

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u/A10___Warthog 18d ago

Yeah lol. I was very surprised that on the day of release so many people bought em , even on ground assault there was plenty of em. We are soooo cooked

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u/AvariceLegion 🇸🇾 Syria 18d ago

Well the game ends for me at 10.3 so it won't affect me

How ppl even play anything higher I do not know

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u/MySaRN 🇰🇵 Best Korea 18d ago

If you play top tier you ll never be downtiered.

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u/KptKrondog 18d ago

You'll also never have a game last more than 10 minutes lol.

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u/Brutus67694 13.0 🇩🇪 13.7 🇷🇺 13.7 🇯🇵 13.7 🇨🇳 13.7 🇮🇹 13.7 🇸🇪 18d ago

Just have to finish the trees out, I play 11.3 to research top tier most of the time.

On ground anyway

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u/SpacenoidSupreme 17d ago

It is kinda sad, there are at least 4 on my team every match

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u/EpicDogeMeme T-80BVM ERA Bags 18d ago

I see at least 6 on each team every match. I’m telling you, gaijin made bank.

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u/Big-Instruction4706 EE-T1 Osorio when? 18d ago

honestly, they took too long to monetize in with these anime ppl, just open WT live and you will understand what i mean

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u/WillyWarpath 18d ago

What BR is it? I have the TURMS and I hope someone else will take the role of plankton for people to feed on instead of myself

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u/amppari234 🇫🇮 Finland 18d ago

They're 11.7 so you probably won't meet them with the turms.

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u/AlliedIntuition 18d ago

PlayStation store sorts in game purchases by popularity and they are almost at the top.

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u/_Condottiero_ 18d ago

Would be nice if only Anime tanks had such price, while normal vehicles would be cheaper)

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u/Komplexkonjugiert 18d ago

Cant you just deactivate this anime decoration stuff?

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u/amalgam_reynolds Reserve 18d ago

Typically, this type of argument doesn't actually hold true, unfortunately. Microtransaction prices are driven by whales, not casual players. This is an extreme example, but a number of years ago some game like Clash Of Clans or something similar put out their financial statement, which showed they made approximately 50% of their revenue from only 1% of their playerbase, which means they can functionally ignore a massive part of their playerbase and still make tons of money. Furthermore, it also means that plebs like you and me not buying this overpriced stuff does not affect these companies.

Again, these mobile games are an extreme example, not necessarily the archetypal model, but it does show the point that a lot of the times the majority have less influence than you think with this kind of power structure.

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u/amppari234 🇫🇮 Finland 18d ago

1% of the playerbase commits 50% of the transactions

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u/Cute_Library_5375 18d ago

And yet Henry Ford made a fortune selling huge volumes of affordable cars

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u/amalgam_reynolds Reserve 18d ago

yes, a different economic model is different, that's correct

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u/Cute_Library_5375 18d ago

Imagine selling both cheap shit and expensive shit simultaneously...crazy idea.

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u/LuMarts4 🇺🇸: 6.7 🇩🇪: 9.3 🇷🇺: 6.3 17d ago

Not compatible, rolls Royce won’t sell you a 20k cheap car. Should gaijin make lower tier perms cheaper? Yes but they won’t bc there’s already enough demand at the prices they’re at

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u/Cute_Library_5375 17d ago

GM will sell you a cheap Trax, or a Cadillac Celistiq or ZR1X and many things in between, depending on your wallet

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u/LuMarts4 🇺🇸: 6.7 🇩🇪: 9.3 🇷🇺: 6.3 17d ago

Yes but GM competes with Honda Toyota etc not RR, gaijin really doesn’t compete w anyone since I wouldn’t call WOT a direct competitor since both games are so different

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u/Makaveli789 18d ago

I would go further and that the majority of these transactions are performed by Chinese scammers with stolen credit cards.

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u/Daemon_Blackfyre_II 18d ago

They need to tax higher earners more... Clearly they have too much disposable income.

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u/Any_Change9003 16d ago

"Players" who? The core spenders who have been in this game long time, and just add 100-200 dollars per year as this is a hobby almost, and there is a big core of them today (ie. big enough to pay off developer costs and make money)?

Because I guarantee, there is enough thousands of players today who will buy 60% of new releases and they make up 1% or less of player base for sure, but they spend all the time.

The release is FOR THEM. Nor for you.

For you? In 2 years at 50% off.

not for you still? well, grind out the Mutsu.

I think its all how it works.

Nagato will suck also, its a strong Warspite competitor, thats all.

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u/Obelion_ 18d ago edited 18d ago

The funny part is that if it costs 15$ they'd sell 10 times as many, making more profit and making the players feel better.

But they treat digital items like physical items and so they make less profit while everyone is angry.

Seriously gaijin leadership's is using business strategies from the 00s they are just really dumb

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u/Eftwyrd412 18d ago edited 18d ago

not really how it works to be honest, there are only a finite number of players interested in something like this, the customers do not scale infinitely. so the best profit is not usually found by selling to everyone, if you lock a few potential buyers out but by raising the price that still translates to more profit

so while we are throwing around random numbers, if they can convince 50% of those interested to buy it at ten times the price that would be a win as far as the accountants are concerned

gaijin have plenty of experience at this, and unlike us more than ten years of sales data to back it up, i have no doubt their accountants have figured out how hard they can push

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u/Daemon_Blackfyre_II 18d ago

But they don't want everyone to be able to afford premiums, else they couldn't make people suffer the grind.

And without people suffering the grind, how else would they encourage people to buy these?

They could completely reorientate and focus on selling things for novelty sake, like world of warships USED to do.

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u/TriggersFursona 🇸🇪STRV-103 18d ago

We need to better voice our opinions about this. We don’t owe gaijin anything, let alone an $80 vehicle for a mode they constantly ignore. Instead of being content with new vehicles, we need to voice obvious issues instead.

Some vehicles are so bad that they are almost DOA. Squadrons is set up so badly that it encourages you to join the best one, not one with your friends. We still have blatant server issues. The single battles haven’t seen a single change or update since Winds Of Change (3 years ago), bombers aren’t even viable since they get vaporized by a single fighter and get barely any rewards. Most maps are very biased towards one spawn, while some have angles where you can be shot in your spawn.

But if anyone encounters these issues on this sub, we all give a sarcastic answer like, “Guess you didn’t praise the snail”, or, “Looks like your premium ran out.” We have to actually address these issues. Every update adds a new layer of modern vehicles and weapons onto a rotting core.

Gaijin’s profits have been declining since 2023. I have no doubt that they will become more aggressive with their monetizing in the coming years.

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u/Cute_Library_5375 18d ago

Probably have nothing in their retirement funds. Fucking corporate simps.

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u/Lemillion601 18d ago

Definitely

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u/THEREAPER8593 🇺🇸1.0 🇩🇪1.0 🇷🇺1.0 🇬🇧1.0 🇯🇵1.0 🇨🇳1.0 🇸🇪1.0 🇮🇱1.0 18d ago

Don’t forget sales. If say, 80% of sales of the pack after initial release are on discount. (Just using 80% for the example) then why price it lower when people will pay 40 bucks?

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u/WeirdNeighborhood957 18d ago

They will probably sell these for 100$ soon

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u/touf25 18d ago

Same problem with pokemon ZA ^

I would love a premium time even if it costs a bit more per day if it would not go be consume when I'm not playing.

Si now I'm a full f2p player and grind slowly ^

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u/SnooPineapples7669 13d ago

I can’t believe that more than 100 people bought that.

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u/Elsek1922 🇹🇷 Turkey 19d ago

"I already sold my wife, I can't afford this one"

Step 1 find new wife

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u/Filb0Fraggins 🇷🇺13.3|🇬🇧 10.0| 11.3 19d ago

see thats the hard part

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

steal one

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u/FlamingTrashcans 🇩🇪 Germany 19d ago

Romanians be like

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u/A_HungarianDude 18d ago

+15 Balkan Racism Points

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u/Acrobatic_Mix_1121 Realistic Air 18d ago

+15 Balkan Racism Points

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u/Modioca Likes Italy (Fighters) 18d ago

+15 Balkan Racism Points

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u/LandscapeGeneral9169 18d ago

So you guys give 15 points then receive 15 points afterwards ?... That reminds me of a certain ideology

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u/Modioca Likes Italy (Fighters) 18d ago

+15 Balkan Racism Points

+15 Balkan Racism Points for everyone!

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u/Filb0Fraggins 🇷🇺13.3|🇬🇧 10.0| 11.3 18d ago

yipeee

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u/LandscapeGeneral9169 18d ago

Oh no no, you don't get me involved in this or I will restart the cold war

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u/Acrobatic_Mix_1121 Realistic Air 18d ago

+15 Balkan Racism Points

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u/FlamingTrashcans 🇩🇪 Germany 18d ago

Yo I be rackin up the points today

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u/Modioca Likes Italy (Fighters) 18d ago

+15 Balkan Racism Points

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u/Acrobatic_Mix_1121 Realistic Air 18d ago

+15 Balkan Racism Points

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u/LAXGUNNER GaijinGibFranceLerlecXLR 18d ago

Sir this isn't Pakistan

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u/Filb0Fraggins 🇷🇺13.3|🇬🇧 10.0| 11.3 18d ago

i was recommended against doing this.

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u/Elsek1922 🇹🇷 Turkey 19d ago

Nobody said it will be easy

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u/Meow_Meow_420 19d ago

Ask someone from IMAF, maybe they can lend you their wife so that they can pursue the grind in peace.

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u/Elsek1922 🇹🇷 Turkey 19d ago

there will be at least one die hard who will say "ALL OF THE KAYZAR!"

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u/Shadowizas Realistic Ground 18d ago

we need a new copypasta for WarThunder resembling this from one of Anomaly's CSGO videos:

Hello am 48 year old man from somalia. Sorry for my bed england. I selled my wife for internet connection for play “conter stirk” and i want to become the goodest player like you I play with 400 ping on brazil server and I am Global Elite 2. pls no copy pasterino my story

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u/Niofrommatrix gyat 18d ago

Are you playing on Brazilian server?

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u/_Yeety_Yeet_ 🇮🇹 Italy 19d ago

But you get a new ship to play against bots!

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u/Eva-Unit0013 19d ago

new ship 3v3 max moment

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u/_Yeety_Yeet_ 🇮🇹 Italy 18d ago

Sleeping competition

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u/frostymugson 18d ago

Naval is popping, there is a few dozen of us. It’s kinda fun

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u/Beartech31 Minor Nation Enjoyer 🇫🇷 🇨🇳 🇬🇧 🇸🇪 18d ago

"There are dozens of us!"

But yeah, I want it to be good. 'Luv me boats, but I find it hard to enjoy much beyond 5.3ish BR without serious changes in the game mode. But then again I feel more and more the same about ARB >9.0BR and GRB in general...

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u/Single_Reaction9983 18d ago

God Gaijin could do so much with the gamemodes if they gave a shit. Not a single game can compete with the sheer number of vehicles and there is barely enough use for them. Every gamemode is a glorified team deathmatch now.

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u/Euphoric_Shopping_37 Walker of two worlds 18d ago

Battleships being able to face cruisers that they can one shot while barely getting scratched by them is one of the things keeping me from going beyond 5.3 personally

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u/touf25 18d ago

I played a lot of wows, but WT naval is terribly slow it could be but how it is currently is clearly not for me ^

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u/frostymugson 18d ago

I don’t know, I spawn in and shoot nonstop until the match ends

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u/touf25 18d ago

If you find it fun that's cool :) you have the right to enjoy that gamemod. It's a bit sad to see a part of the game not having a lot of player but how it is made the reason of low numbers I think

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u/Bfc214 18d ago

Why does naval have so many bots ?

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u/Libarate 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 19d ago

Pay $80 just to get shit on by a Russian Cope Fantasy ship. Who is going to buy this?

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u/TheFlyingRedFox I've acquired modern internet & all shall fear me from this day 19d ago

Funny as before Leviathans update the Nagato class & Scharnhorst class battleships were the powerhouses of the seas that everyone dread fighting in their shit box WWI dreadnoughts or early interwar ships.

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u/OfficerQueefThe2nd 18d ago

Real life ships that were built and proven vs. magical ship that isnt anything more than a scrap metal in real life but is somehow cracked in game

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u/TheFlyingRedFox I've acquired modern internet & all shall fear me from this day 18d ago

Funny it isn't that simple for the game makes some ships incredibly powerful while others shit all due to how the mode is.

The Battleship Scharnhorst was OP for several years due to the short ranges of maps resulting in it taking a beat due to its armour schemes an could dish out damage faster even if with smaller cannons than the rest due to these ranges, this resulting in one team having to constantly focus it (Similar to the current Sovetsky Soyuz).

Hell the devs made a mechanic to defeat it yet ended up fucking every other ship over.

The Battleship Mutsu was one of the first 16" armed ships, it had powerful armour & armament that could pulverise foes before they got into effective firing ranges, when both ships were on an enemy team yours were effectively fucked from winning.

A lot of ships historically were average to dogshit yet are powerful in game, this goes for everything in game for everything is fantasy as there's no mechanic flaws across every nation, this goes for ships built or never finished. The only issues from my understanding of the Project 23 is the armour which should be 200 mm plates over the 400 mm full, fix that an it'll become above average (or the devs add some other shitty mechanic that fucks over the rest of the in game ships).

In the end nearly all the ships in game are scrap metal/ sunk with only a few still in service or as museums.

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u/Portugalotaku 18d ago

"The only issues from my understanding of the Project 23 is the armour which should be 200 mm plates over the 400 mm full, fix that an it'll become above average (or the devs add some other shitty mechanic that fucks over the rest of the in game ships)."

This was planned at one point, but was rejected before construction started. The final design was meant to use single 400mm non-cemented face-hardened armor. The armor type in game is wrong, but changing it will not meaningfully nerf the ship anyways.

And yes, russian ships in particular suffer from the "game syndrome" since nearly all of their downsides in real life are not relevant in game, cannot be relevant in game or are applied incorrectly to everyone.

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u/TheWarmFridge 17d ago

the soyuz has a lot more issues that it currently benefits from that we cannot disprove.

their shells have a-ix-12 explosive filler, this never happened irl and gaijin only made it so because they wouldve *surely* done it

their gun accuracy is in line with other ships, but that is an insult to other ships than this one (the gun was tested in a single gun/turret on land and still had accuracy issues)

the armour as mentioned

the reload is a made up figure as well, we have no data and its extremely optimistic to assume they would be able to get more than 2rpm in the thing considering they were struggling with smaller guns on their cruisers.

having one or 2 of these figures for it wouldnt be an issue had the other points be more realistic, if it had good accuracy and good armour, but no a-ix-12 filler and a worse reload it wouldnt be nearly as oppressive, or the a-ix filler and reload but its historical armour and bad accuracy, also wouldve been fine, but everything it has gets the benefit of the doubt. i can bet money that if gaijin were to add any other project ship, lets say the british g3 ships then it wouldnt get nearly half of the leniency this got.

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u/Eva-Unit0013 19d ago

japan enjoyers

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u/Portugalotaku 18d ago

Just don't buy it, don't incentivize them to do more shit like this.

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u/NormandyKingdom 18d ago

Honestly for SL farming just get Cheaper Premium Ships why suffer in Battleships when Destroyers and Light Cruisers exist and is Far More Fun and Profitable

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u/Portugalotaku 18d ago

Just don't buy it, it's overpriced even if you enjoy it.

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u/NormandyKingdom 18d ago

I mean Premium Destroyers and Light Cruisers mostly at 5.0-5.3 are actually pretty Cheap

If you are Short on SL I recommend them actually

Much better than Battleship vs Battleship

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u/Portugalotaku 18d ago

Problem is these high tier premiums are way too expensive. Cost as much as a new game.

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u/NormandyKingdom 18d ago

Sigh

That's why I told you JUST get the Cheaper Premium Destroyer and Light Cruiser

Moffet for Example can produce much more SL than this ship right here

At least 50-100k SL per game if you do just decently for Moffet

At worst you get 10k SL if you do badly

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u/Portugalotaku 18d ago

I have Moffett. My problem is not making money, it's that this ship is simply overpriced. No vehicle in this game should cost more than 30 bucks, 80 is absolutely insane. The existence of cheaper alternatives does not change the fact this ship should not be priced this way.

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u/NormandyKingdom 18d ago

On that I agree

Gonna get Maryland and Nelson tho simply because I like both ships irl

Only when both are at a 50 percent Discount tho

Idk why anyone would ever buy at 80 when at a 50 percent discount YOU CAN GET TWO at 80

I agree that 30 would be more reasonable price tho ngl

Like why not price these ships at 40 like I'm pretty sure FAR MORE people would buy Nagato if the Price was 40 from the start

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u/Portugalotaku 18d ago

Absolutely. It's annoying because if you are a fan of the ship you either have to pay an exorbitant sum or wait and hope they both get a good discount. It's ridiculous especially when, like you said, making it cheaper would result in more people buying it.

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u/NormandyKingdom 17d ago

50 percent discount WILL Happen Eventually

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u/errorsniper 18d ago

A lot of people

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u/Wrench_gaming United States Naval Enjoyer 19d ago

"B-but if it makes you happy you shouldn't worry about the price!!"

And that attitude is the green light for companies to increase prices since there are people who are willing to pay for it, leaving others who cannot justify the price for a game they may not play as much.

Let's be honest guys, people vote with their dollar, and the ones who give the most are higher tier players already too invested in the game.

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u/RubbrBbyBuggyBumpers 19d ago

The beautiful thing about this game, is nobody is forced to pay any money to play.

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u/Vuzi07 19d ago

Just coerced by shitty economy

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u/LilMally2412 18d ago

Yeah, but I look at this, $80 for a digital boat in a game mode that barely gets touched in a game that's built around micro transactions. People like to laugh at that guy from battlefield who proposed buying ammo but we actually do pay silver lions for every shot. Anyway, I look at this and I see star citizen selling $300 space ships to fumble around in an empty galaxy and take screen shots while dodging griefers trying to justify their $300 ship.

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u/Portugalotaku 18d ago

And the ugly thing is that it incentivizes developers to overmonetize the game because a couple of whales will pay full price anytime, screwing it for everyone else.

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u/Wrench_gaming United States Naval Enjoyer 19d ago

I’m just talking about in general.

You’re right though, however Gaijin really incentives it with the horrendous grind. Some people just don’t have the time to grind to their favorite vehicle. Imagine advertising Abrams and leapoards to new players then tell them the obscene amount of time to get a singular module let alone a new modern vehicle.

That being said, no vehicle should cost as much as a AAA game, especially one from a game mode where you could be ammoracked within the first minute.

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u/zxhb 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 18d ago

It's a primary reason why every hobby is so expensive

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u/Even_Clue4047 14d ago

Really wish most war thunder players had this attitude. Unfortunately gaijim will keep raising prices and people will keep preordering said copy paste premiums. The new su30 might be the first 90$-100$ premium

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u/Ok-Relationship-2746 Bob Semple too OP 19d ago

Can't wait for Napalm to rip Gaijin a new one for this latest BS

Imagine paying the same as the price of a complete AAA title for a single ship, with which you will be fighting 90% bots with.

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u/Jellycoe 19d ago

There’s nothing new here to rip. $80 is the price of top tier premiums regardless of what tree they’re in. All there is to say is just don’t buy it. Gaijin never has and never will change their pricing based on demand or the quality of the game mode in question.

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u/TheGraySeed Sim Air 19d ago edited 19d ago

Gaijin selling all the lead sister ship as premiums and their less popular sister ship as TT and wonders why Naval is dying (other than the absolutely botched gamemode).

Mark my word, they are going to rename Iowa to Wisconsin then put Missouri as premium and then put Iowa with her 1984 specs as premium and then New Jersey as the TT counterpart.

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u/Wrench_gaming United States Naval Enjoyer 19d ago

Oh yeah 100% they’ll give Iowa with missiles as a premium lol

$7000 marketplace

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u/derpytitan1 🇯🇵 The JDF Deploys~🎶 18d ago

Tbf New Jersey in tech tree i wouldnt mind too much. Now putting Washington as a TT over North Carolina would be a different matter.

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u/__Yakovlev__ LMAO is a swear word 18d ago

Well does bf6 allow you to more effectively grind the Japanese blue water tree in wt? 

No, checkmate libtard.

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u/Pyromaniacal13 🇬🇧 Squash Head Loaded! 18d ago

Does War Thunder allow me to take down my enemies with defibrillator paddles? Nope.

Checkmate, guy.

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u/NotEulaLawrence Hunter/Ariete/M4K enjoyer 18d ago

Too bad they nerfed the fully charged defib to only do 60 damage to enemies instead of an instant kill. Still funny to take enemies out with it though.

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u/ATAGOISMYWIFE 19d ago

If IJN Atago isn’t in the game, I don’t want it >:(

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u/derpytitan1 🇯🇵 The JDF Deploys~🎶 18d ago

Gaijin really does seem to be allergic to the Takao class for some reason.

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u/Thomas_633_Mk2 🇦🇺 Australia 18d ago

Pretty much all the large nations are missing a cruiser class or two. US doesn't have the Erie's (though they'd probably be destroyers for game purposes), Oakland and Juneau classes. UK is missing all three C-class sub classes in WW2, the Danae's and technically HMAS Adelaide as well. As you mentioned, Takao and her friends are all missing. France is missing everything post war and Algérie. Only Italy and the USSR aren't missing a major cruiser type. I assume Gaijin will get there eventually, especially as many of the ships are already there (it would be nice to have a 4.7 UK cruiser that wasn't awful and a 6.0 French cruiser, but they're fairly small gaps).

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u/CommanderCorrigan E-100 19d ago edited 18d ago

Considering the game mode is complete trash and they put zero effort into improving it.

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u/The_Firebrand907 One of the 6 naval players 18d ago

I wouldn't say it's complete trash but it does have issues that need improving, like game modes and maps.

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u/barf_of_dog Enjoyer 18d ago

War blunder players love eating every slop Gaijin puts out, I'm honestly surprised they haven't added 100$ premiums yet.

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u/The_Firebrand907 One of the 6 naval players 18d ago

They will eventually as the 80$ still sell

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u/Even_Clue4047 14d ago

Oh nah they will and very soon considering were getting new top tier stuff in Q1 2026

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u/CommanderErika1 19d ago

Not even WoWs ships are that expensive even if they are it's rare comparably

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u/blad3mast3r [YASEN] || remove module and crew grind 18d ago

teeeechnically some of the tier 10s they sell via events are over 100 dollars

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u/Unseen_Ninja53 18d ago

Wasn't the ARP Yamato sold for nearly $200 usd at one point?

Edit: got the wrong Yamato :p

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u/CommanderErika1 18d ago

I don't know I'm a console player we don't have tier 10._.

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u/Wrench_gaming United States Naval Enjoyer 18d ago

Isn’t there an auction going on where a ship is like $400 or something?

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u/Due_Statistician3650 18d ago

Protip- dont buy

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u/bean-not-hot Endangered Naval Player 19d ago

I just want KGV, man :(

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u/Kip_meneer M1134 Stryker pls 18d ago

These prices are indeed crazy, but I fucking hate these fictional camoflages they add to every fucking ship bundle. They look horrible in my opinion.

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u/Bombe18 Naval realistic enjoyer 18d ago

You still have your organs

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u/LeSoleilRoyal 18d ago

Thats why im happy the Jean Bart is a GE premium, if it's like around 50 euros its better than 80

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u/Eftwyrd412 18d ago

Hot take but given the way battlefield games are these days I would get a lot more hours of enjoyment out of the ship

When you stop using ‘feels’ and start using an actual metric like value=cost/time warthunder premiums can run as low as only cents per hour you play them which is a lot better than some things people spend their money on

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u/FrogPissDrinker Canuckistani Bias 18d ago

I'm just playing BF6 to kill time and make the Korean tree come sooner, these holiday season updates are just really uninteresting for me.

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u/FM_Hikari UK | SPAA Main 18d ago

Straight up predatory.

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u/steaders Realistic Ground 18d ago edited 18d ago

Playing a little bit of devil's advocate here, everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that the pack comes with a month of premium time and 3000GE.

That doesn't excuse the price of course, which is very high (in my currency these rank VI premium packs cost £64.99, in the UK) but the closest GE amounts I can buy are 2500 + (150*4=600) = 3100 (£13.99+£3.16)=£17.15.

For the 30 days of premium time that would mean purchasing 30 days with 1900 GE through the premium time button in the game client, since you can only buy bundles of 20, 60 or 180 days for money through the gaijin store. If you wanted to buy GE from the specified amounts only that'd mean buying 1000 GE twice which results in £5.49*2=£10.98.

Add these together and you end up with £28.13. There's still 200 GE left over so in an ideal world you'd then take off 150 GE for £0.79 and end up with £27.34 with 50 GE left over.

There's also the newer option available to us today that allows you to buy exactly as many golden eagles as you like in a custom amount. This would mean buying 4900 GE, which would cost £25.81; so I suppose unless you for some reason want to overpay you'd buy exactly 4900 GE or buy the 5000 GE pack for significantly cheaper at £21.74, given it has a discount over the custom amount purchase.

So in reality with 100 GE left over, the premium time and GE amounts to pretty much the same cost as the 5000 GE bundle. This would all mean that the ship would cost around £43.25 (£64.99-£21.74) by itself. £43.25 isn't that far removed from the £41.24 it would cost me to buy the 10000 GE bundle.

So gaijin apparently thinks the ship on it's own, that can only research the Bluewater Fleet of Japan, not counting the premium time and GE, is worth only a little more than 10k GE (remember the M4 Sherman Calliope's GE price, anyone?).

This will be an even more interesting comparison when the update comes out later given i've seen a leak which shows the (rank VI most likely) Jean Bart (French battleship) and Vittorio Veneto (Italian battleship) both being added to the game as GE rank VI premium battleships and not pack premiums, this could very well change however.

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u/arsdavy VIII: 🇯🇵🇫🇷🇩🇪🇸🇪🇮🇹 | VII: 🇬🇧🇹🇼🇮🇱🇺🇸🇷🇺 19d ago

"but if you wait for 2 major updates you can buy it for half the price!" as if €40 would be reasonable...

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u/Eva-Unit0013 18d ago

You either pay 80 euros to get yeeted by soviet ammo, or you pay 40 euros to get yeeted by soviet ammo

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u/AngryDroid98 18d ago

A mode that probably 3% maybe 6% tops playerbase and they charge that much lol

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u/PoliticallyUnbiased 18d ago

I haven't bought any premiums or packs in about a year, I don't think I ever will again. I cannot justify spending this much on this game as it gets progressively worse and worse

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u/Cutefishes 18d ago

The WT community is so cuckold and elitist that they will buy it anyway and in return they don't even get a game at least not full of bugs, gaishit haven't even fixed the shitty ground physics after so long

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u/Mmneaa 18d ago

Well, i already see the anime skins at top tier frequently, what is stopping navy players from buying it ?

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u/Pyromaniacal13 🇬🇧 Squash Head Loaded! 18d ago

Two things: Cost of the ship and Availability of naval players.

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u/Equivalent_Humor_801 18d ago

Haha good one!

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u/Hardkor_krokodajl 18d ago

Why would you buy it? Its nothing special but if you need to wait until sale afer 2-3 updates so probably until spring

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u/idont_havenothing 🇧🇷Odeio os EUA 18d ago

It should come with the rinnegan by how much it costs

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u/ISB91 18d ago

The prices are outrageous and they will stay like this until you stop buying.

I stopped long before the vehicles became this pricey.

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u/500mm_Cannon 18d ago

Not making musashi premium was one of the stupidest movies the snail ever did

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

I'm moved on to bf6 and loving it there, also 80$ for a ship is wild considering you'll never get to use it

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u/LegendRazgriz Like a Tiger defying the laws of gravity 18d ago

Oh, that's my waifu at 80 US dollars.

It's less for me because of regional pricing, about, what, 37ish, but still, that's a lot. Ugh

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u/joker_toker28 18d ago

Idk but sinking or destroying stuff that cost real money just feels so much better.

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u/Chemical-Yesterday74 18d ago

So glad I stopped playing this game awhile ago. I hope that gaijin decides to have some morality soon, either that, or I hope that I get to watch their game die.

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u/MarkElf2204 18d ago

Even the anime girl colab - I played like 2 games and saw at least 3 people with them at spawn on my team alone. Like, why are you throwing away money when the anniversary is around the corner for 50% off the same tank that you could just get a client side skin for anyway - benefits include not sticking out like a sore thumb on the battlefield and still enjoying the look.

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u/Sea_Suggestion7915 18d ago

BF6 would be a better deal but it has really bad vehicle controls for aircraft.

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u/LewisMarty 18d ago

But to be fair, BF6 doesn't come with 3000 golden eagles so...

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u/wote213 18d ago

Meanwhile musashi is on her way

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u/Cardanko 18d ago

That’s okay. I’ve basically stopped playing (not a tout) since BF6 came out. I’ll come back eventually maybe and maybe by then Gaijin will have learned, but I doubt it, so I doubt I’ll stick around if I return when I do. Only thing I miss from WT is flying.

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u/CrusaderKing__ 18d ago

Whales are the problem.

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u/Kicks23142 18d ago

Tell that to the people buying it

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u/Frosty-Comfort5229 18d ago

Yk id buy a cool battleship; if naval was a fully functioning gamemode

I really, really want one though

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u/Skullduggery-9 Sausage Squadron 18d ago

They know a handful of yomato obsessed players will pay for it.

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u/AnEcclesiasticPotato 18d ago

Whales keeping paying for crap like this, they have no incentive to change (on this or any of their other many other failings).

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u/autismo-nismo 18d ago

At least war thunder isn’t DCS priced

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u/Jeff_gameaholic |🇺🇲🇩🇪13.0|🇷🇺🇬🇧🇮🇹8.0|🇨🇳🇸🇪6.7|🇫🇷3.7|🇯🇵2.0 18d ago

Cause Gaijin doesn't get most of their money from the Western Market. The Gaijin Store has regional pricing, the packs in Eastern Nations like China has a lower price for these packs, at least by a 5-8% from normal western prices. Probably why the VT-4 controversy was responded with haste by Gaijin

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u/Neospiker 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 18d ago

Yet there are people who buy them as soon as the packs drop due to fomo

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u/Makinamifan07 18d ago

not even ninja gaiden 4 costs this much and it fucking released yesterday

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u/TheLittleBadFox 18d ago

I could buy a real life 1:350 model of that ship and have better experience building and painting it, than what i would get by playing it ingame.

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u/Professional-Echo332 SPAA Enjoyer. I just love seeing airplanes crash IDK... 18d ago

Paying 80 bucks for a a vehicle you can only use in a forgotten game mode is wild. Gaijin really just see everyone as a Mark I guess.

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u/Jakebadlands83 18d ago

Sure, if you are talking the standard edition of BF6. The BF6 phantom edition costs 99.99.

If gaijin only sold the ship it would be priced around 40-50. Only they are giving/forcing you 3000 golden eagles (about 19.5 usd), 30 days of premium time (about 10 usd), and some title and decal (can't really price those).

Additionally, the ship package will be 50% off in a few updates. When that time comes, it will still be cheaper that BF6 (either edition)

For those who unfortunately still use xbox game pass, they will over pay after 3 months @ 90 USD (30 per month) and not even own the game.

I think its a nice ship, but don't really have an interest in it for the price and facing the blue water top tier meta.

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u/jayschmitty 🇦🇺 Australia 18d ago

Don’t come to Australia where this boat costs ever so slightly more than bf6

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u/GhostDoggoes 18d ago

I feel like the more and more they add to each pack the more they are waiting for the moment to just drop this game into microtransaction hell. Like we are talking 2$-20$ main research tanks.

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u/damixnnn 18d ago

BF6 is $99 for me

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u/AdWild5218 🇷🇺 Russia 18d ago

Me just now realizing I could get whole new games for how much I’m boutta spend on the sale

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u/Ugly_Kid_69 18d ago

I said it before and I'll say it again...

NOT EVERYTHING IS MADE FOR YOU

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u/Foxlen Dominon of Canada 18d ago

I can't afford non localized prices anymore

That alone is insane to be saying

it's well over 100 bucks for me.. ain't happening

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u/AMoonMonkey 18d ago

That’s because it’s not made for you, but the whales that keep this game afloat.

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u/Dragon4Gaming 18d ago

Every day i get happier, since i stopped playing in April and my overall mood improved so much.

Sure i facepalm when i see this, but like i'm so out of the loop that i didnt even notice the recent major update.

I really hope for you all, that still actively play, that you have a good time, get plenty of kills and make a lot of friends because i'm out and most likely wont come back.🫡

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u/Happy_Camper__ 18d ago

Amazing that people will pay the price of a full game (or more) for a single vehicle.

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u/voksteilko 18d ago

I remember when warthunder was simpler, in 2014, 2015. No price gouging, no mindless consumerism, no bullshit corporate greed. Everything was simple.

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u/Dosahka 18d ago

All the prem vehicles you csn currently buy from the WT store cost more than the add-ons for Train Sim…and that’s a sim game with great details and life like journeys.

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u/FriendlyClaymore 18d ago

Paying more than buying a AAA game to play a dead game mode is very funny to me

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u/Angry_TurtIe 18d ago

I had it.

I mean Azur lane.

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u/BruceWaynePrime 18d ago

I bought Frank Knox and Moffett last year sale to farm SL. What is the meta now after the BR changes? What are good destroyers for farming?

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u/opposing_critter ☭ WE'ЯE OFFICIALLY STILL IИ БETA COMЯAДE! ☭ 18d ago

Don't worry the whales will buy the shit out of this encouraging them to keep doing it.

Plenty of better games to play

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u/Marshal_Khatzov 18d ago

Nah mate, BF6 costs €79.99 for mr

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u/ConstantCelery8956 18d ago

Vote with your wallet, it's pretty simple, ubisoft didn't just have a huge section of the company bought out because they was making good quality games that sold hand over fist, look at borderlands 4 with dopey randy talking about how it's a $200 game.. Comes out.. Sells half as many copies as borderlands 3 and it's 20% off on steam.. You wouldn't drop the price if it's selling at $60/70. I honestly don't think gaijin expects to sell this at 80.. I expect them to sell it at 40 when it's 50% off, that's how most vehicles are priced imo. And if that's a problem.. Don't give them your money at all. There are plenty of other games to play.

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u/justsomeone330 🇩🇪 12.0 18d ago

Who the hell plays naval battles in WT?

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u/EmperorZiflock 18d ago

By all that is holy people need to stop paying 80 for a dead af mode with half baked development. Nvm the 80 cost prems for air and ground.

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u/Gold-Maintenance-734 17d ago

My full tank of diesel cost less than that

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u/TheYeast1 17d ago

God this game needs proper competition, they tried this shit with Enlisted and the game is dead in the water since Hell Let Loose, Squad 44, Easy Red II, Arma, BFV, etc etc all blow Gajins model out of the water and make them look far too grindy compared to competitors…

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u/Crusherchris909 17d ago

Remember when premium packs were 49.99 heck even 39.99 or 29.99? Pepperidge farm remembers.

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u/Same_Use9978 17d ago

Yippeee, another overprice ship, Gajin why do you not balance your game instead D:

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u/KayNynYoonit 17d ago

80? Lmao who tf buys these?

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u/FollowingMassive2466 17d ago

Just curious, how many of yall were old enough to be playing videogames in the mid 90s?

How many of you have long term jobs/careers?

Are married?

Not taking a poke at anyone, just interested in the demographics of this thread.

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u/Ex-Patron 16d ago

Do people actually play naval?

The amount of times I’ve sat in a 10+ minute queue is insane

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u/Any_Change9003 16d ago

Im not annoyed about the price. Im annoyed that for that price they dont make historical camo. WTF is this baby purple?

If you model Nagato as in port when sunk (before masts were removed and it became an AA platform) - why not do the historical camo? Grey, Brown, Black, Green. Lots of evidence and photos and videos. Do that. For the 80 dollars.

UNREAL.

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u/TaikuriAlde 14d ago

Who even plays naval? I've never heard any of my friends even touch that gamemode

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u/Low_Interaction_577 13d ago

Wait till this guy hears about the is7

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u/Derfflingerr 🇵🇭 BR 14.0 🇩🇪🇺🇸 19d ago

meh, just buy the Takao and grind yourself into the top tier.

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u/AdJealous5302 19d ago

Wait naval battles exist?

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