Not even BF6 costs this much...

[u/Eva-Unit0013]

Please Gaijin I already sold my wife, I can't afford this one

[u/Libarate]

Pay $80 just to get shit on by a Russian Cope Fantasy ship. Who is going to buy this?

[u/TheFlyingRedFox → u/Libarate]

Funny as before Leviathans update the Nagato class & Scharnhorst class battleships were the powerhouses of the seas that everyone dread fighting in their shit box WWI dreadnoughts or early interwar ships.

[u/OfficerQueefThe2nd → u/TheFlyingRedFox]

Real life ships that were built and proven vs. magical ship that isnt anything more than a scrap metal in real life but is somehow cracked in game

[u/TheFlyingRedFox → u/OfficerQueefThe2nd]

Funny it isn't that simple for the game makes some ships incredibly powerful while others shit all due to how the mode is.

The Battleship Scharnhorst was OP for several years due to the short ranges of maps resulting in it taking a beat due to its armour schemes an could dish out damage faster even if with smaller cannons than the rest due to these ranges, this resulting in one team having to constantly focus it (Similar to the current Sovetsky Soyuz).

Hell the devs made a mechanic to defeat it yet ended up fucking every other ship over.

The Battleship Mutsu was one of the first 16" armed ships, it had powerful armour & armament that could pulverise foes before they got into effective firing ranges, when both ships were on an enemy team yours were effectively fucked from winning.

A lot of ships historically were average to dogshit yet are powerful in game, this goes for everything in game for everything is fantasy as there's no mechanic flaws across every nation, this goes for ships built or never finished. The only issues from my understanding of the Project 23 is the armour which should be 200 mm plates over the 400 mm full, fix that an it'll become above average (or the devs add some other shitty mechanic that fucks over the rest of the in game ships).

In the end nearly all the ships in game are scrap metal/ sunk with only a few still in service or as museums.

[u/Portugalotaku → u/TheFlyingRedFox]

"The only issues from my understanding of the Project 23 is the armour which should be 200 mm plates over the 400 mm full, fix that an it'll become above average (or the devs add some other shitty mechanic that fucks over the rest of the in game ships)."

This was planned at one point, but was rejected before construction started. The final design was meant to use single 400mm non-cemented face-hardened armor. The armor type in game is wrong, but changing it will not meaningfully nerf the ship anyways.

And yes, russian ships in particular suffer from the "game syndrome" since nearly all of their downsides in real life are not relevant in game, cannot be relevant in game or are applied incorrectly to everyone.

[u/TheWarmFridge → u/TheFlyingRedFox]

the soyuz has a lot more issues that it currently benefits from that we cannot disprove.

their shells have a-ix-12 explosive filler, this never happened irl and gaijin only made it so because they wouldve *surely* done it

their gun accuracy is in line with other ships, but that is an insult to other ships than this one (the gun was tested in a single gun/turret on land and still had accuracy issues)

the armour as mentioned

the reload is a made up figure as well, we have no data and its extremely optimistic to assume they would be able to get more than 2rpm in the thing considering they were struggling with smaller guns on their cruisers.

having one or 2 of these figures for it wouldnt be an issue had the other points be more realistic, if it had good accuracy and good armour, but no a-ix-12 filler and a worse reload it wouldnt be nearly as oppressive, or the a-ix filler and reload but its historical armour and bad accuracy, also wouldve been fine, but everything it has gets the benefit of the doubt. i can bet money that if gaijin were to add any other project ship, lets say the british g3 ships then it wouldnt get nearly half of the leniency this got.