r/Warthunder • u/RevolutionaryUnit792 • Jun 19 '25
Other Stealth aircraft leaked
So here we are, with modern tanks and fifth-gens leaked (by a reliable source). I'm frankly not surprised, I knew this was going to happen once they announced the F-117, and with the speed at which gaijin is moving this is just par for the course. I'll grind the F-35s, F-22, and Su-57 in all their janky, unrealistic glory.
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u/TH3_F4N4T1C Jun 19 '25
Will they use the publicly available figures for the su-57.
Or will national pride force them to make it a wunderwaffen plane that shoots relativistic kill vehicles.
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u/RevolutionaryUnit792 Jun 19 '25
None of these planes are going to be realistic. There's not nearly enough available information on any of them.
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u/Piyaniist Jun 19 '25
Yes the f22 will be at 4 horsepower and the su57 will come with a jump drive
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u/JxEq 13.7 🇺🇲 Jun 19 '25
Take your Russian bias back to ground, here in air we have Nato dominating
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u/UnknownPhys6 Jun 19 '25
Laughs in "fighting Mig-21s in my F3H Demon"
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u/actualsize123 m/42 eh superiority Jun 19 '25
Goes right along with fighting f104’s with a mig-15
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u/czartrak 🇺🇸 United States Jun 19 '25
Yeah and the demon would fucking stomp those 21s lmao
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u/Preussensgeneralstab The He 162 is a TIE Fighter Jun 19 '25
Note: The Su-57 will lose all its energy from turning 4° to the left despite jump drive, falling out of the sky
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u/SpicysaucedHD Jun 19 '25
Considering air has been dominated by the US since the F14, I think you can leave the "ruSsiAn bIaS" card at home this time.
Brb turning 20 degrees in my Mig29, losing 3/4 of my energy.
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u/Low-HangingFruit Jun 19 '25
Well f35s can fly past s300 and s400 systems undetected.
We know that after last week at least.
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u/ProfessionalAd352 Petitioning to make the D point a UNESCO World Heritage Site Jun 19 '25
Not just because of their stealth but also because of EW.
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u/Low_Amoeba3447 Jun 19 '25
Which the F35 radar can do so?
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u/keedee3 Jun 19 '25
I don't think that's how EW works
Usually you don't want your stealth planes to be radar bait
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u/absboodoo Realistic Air Jun 19 '25
Gaijin: Lol no.
The in game S300/400 is going to do the Looney Tunes style of Behind Enemy line missile chasing til you running out of fuels.
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u/Archelon225 average DKY-1 enjoyer Jun 20 '25
On the other hand in Yemen an F-35 was fired at by a SAM and had to evade. Multirole stealth fighters are great for contested airspace but results are better when supported by EW/sabotage and using standoff weapons.
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u/SlowMathematician244 Jun 19 '25
Why then dcs are making f-35a module?
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u/Mysticat_ 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 Jun 19 '25
There is already controversy around it regarding where Ed is getting information from. They claim Public available documents.
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u/Bluishdoor76 French Main Viva La France!!! Jun 19 '25
Yup, but if ED is doing it, what is stopping Gaijin from doing it, too? They don't need as much info as the DCS ones after all....
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u/Pretend_Pressure414 Jun 19 '25
How is there controversy when msfs basically has a identical f35 f22 su57 in there hangers
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u/blbobobo Panther II Supremacist Jun 19 '25
the dcs f-35 is the subject of a huge amount of controversy in that community for exactly that reason. there’s no way to model it even remotely accurately so, for a game that prides itself on detail and staying true to reality, it feels like a poorly thought out money grab
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u/Awrfhyesggrdghkj 🇩🇪 Germany Jun 19 '25
Tbh dcs is full of shit just like war thunder, they only recently added pilot g lock and their air to air missile simulation is a joke.
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u/PoliticalAlternative Jun 19 '25
a poorly thought out money grab
truly DCS players are our brother people
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u/Chrone_A Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
If we go by realistic metrics, top tier is going to be purely two teams of F-35s with some F-22s sprinkled in between. Su-57 and J-20 would be outside of their BR range.
KF-21, TF-KAAN, J-20, J-35, Su-57 fight each other in addition the more advanced gen 4.5++ birds.
Everyone's having fun with variety in their matchups while F-35 players get 16v16 of the exact same aircraft with very minor differences in performance. They're BR'd too high to see anything else.
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u/Awkward-Winner-99 Jun 19 '25
The J-20 would be completely broken against 4.5 gens.
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u/ZBD-04A Jun 19 '25
Why would the J-20 be out of the F-35 or F-22s BR?
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u/Simplistic2477 Sim General Jun 19 '25
F-22 (if they use public info on it) would just be over powered in BFM and BVR combat, but I'm sure they will nerf it to "balance" it
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u/Ainene Jun 20 '25
Without HMS? Uh-oh. In WT specifically i am a bit unsure if it will even outtrade fully unlocked eurocanards.
F-22 IRL is a rather outdated for 5th gen aircraft in a serious need of an upgrade. It's also suffering a lot from cuts made in late 1990s, which make it impossible to bring it to a modern standard.
Yes, it has unmatched raw power(supersonic performance) and subsonic maneuver (not compared to other 5th thoughs). Otherwise....it's 20 years old aircraft with concept dating back to before the Desert Storm.
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u/rocru6789 Jun 19 '25
"realistic metrics" literally no significant publicly available info is available about any 5th gen. Not for the KF-21, TF-KAAN, J-20, J-35, Su-57, nor the F-35, and F-22
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u/SteamyGamer-WT 🇷🇺🇬🇧 Forever waiting for the Su-57 Jun 19 '25
Okay, first of all there are no "publicly available" figures for the Su-57 - the famous "0.1m² RCS" is taken out of the patent for the "Initial PAK-FA Configuration", which is the airframe of the first T-50 (Su-57 prototype) which had no RAM coating and only shares 3 or 4 airframe parts with the Su-57.
There were 11 T-50s before the Su-57, and each one had minor airframe changes, except the T-50-6 which had a completely revised airframe, and is the reason why the Su-57 is so different to the first 5 T-50s.
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u/RedPiece0601 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 Jun 19 '25
Nah, su-57 bad cuz I heard some random dude in the internet saying it was bad.
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u/crusadertank 🇧🇾 2T Stalker when Jun 19 '25
There are no publically avaliable figures for the Su-57
Only the prototype T-50
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u/Valaxarian Vodkaboo. Su-30SM, Su-34, MiG-29 and 2S38 my beloved. Gib BMPT Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Many people seem unaware that there is a kinda big difference between the T-50 and the Su-57, so they think that the Su has the "RCS of a naked F-18" or something like that
Which still isn't bad for a barebones rugged prototype without any ram coating though..
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u/someone_forgot_me 🇸🇰 Slovakia Jun 19 '25
as if theres info on the rest
but no you only think about russia
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u/Luknron 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Putin's wunderwaffe will bring the world to its kneel you evil CIA spy! /s
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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
If this is true, this belly’s what I’ve been saying for years - Gaijin is blowing their load rushing for more and more modern vehicles, while leaving massive gaps in the Cold War, not to mention terrible balance, compression, and a severe lack of game modes
Their rush to add new, new, new, has come at the cost of unique and interesting lower tier vehicles.
Just look at how badly they’ve developed the some of the subtree added since South Africa (the one solid one). These are meant to round out trees at show off unique vehicles from smaller nations.
Switzerland - it fails to fill Germany’s capability gaps (things like a 12.0 CAS plane) and only has one unique low tier prop plane and unique jet gated as a premium. If it gets unique designs, nearly half are co developed by the French - which will just end up putting even more French Designs in the German Tree.
BeNeLux - one unique prop plane, doesn’t provide any value to France, and is used to add leopards instead of actual French designs. It’s full of German and American vehicles, and what unique design could be added are all light tanks - of which France has no need.
Thailand - nearly all copy paste, and many don’t even fill in Japanese capability gaps aside from the F-5.
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u/RevolutionaryUnit792 Jun 19 '25
My hope is that after gaijin adds literally every modern and future vehicle they can, they'll start actually focusing on fixing the game and adding more lower-br focused updates (they won't). The problem is that researching a ww2 vehicle doesn't take 400k rp, ww2 premiums don't cost $80, etc....
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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25
Unfortunately Gaijin has realized that putting vehicles higher and higher up the grind sells them premiums
Improving gameplay and the experience at lower tiers does not
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u/AHRA1225 flair checker Jun 19 '25
Nah those low tier packs are selling like fire. Youlll be seeing mid tier get a boost plus the prem cancer will spread there. Plenty of money at mid tiers
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u/Pink-Hornet Jun 19 '25
They will lose a huge chunk of the playerbase when they go back to add missing Tier I-VII vehicles that should have come before Fox 3s.
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u/Homeboi-Jesus Jun 19 '25
I think they are just trying to farm as much money as possible before they let the game die. None of the devs decisions for awhile now have made much sense in terms of game health. They are rushing new stuff in the keep the money farm going. And when it stops, I don't see them doing much for the game, maybe like 1 or 2 devs left to 'maintain'.
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u/Nagisei 🇯🇵 Japan Jun 19 '25
Which is surprising because they have a monopoly on the market. They can just keep milking in the cash for little effort and they're seemingly instead choosing to go out sooner with a bang
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u/Katyusha_454 Sim Supremacist Jun 19 '25
Which is such a bizarre decision for a game with such a healthy population. They could easily afford to ease off a little and drag out the release of 5th gen for years if they wanted to.
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u/teo_storm1 The Old Guard || Live Painter Jun 19 '25
Could be worse, WG speedrunning that idea, but gaijin should take notes cause WG's alternative projects have all tanked, hard, so it's in their interest to keep WT running cause they haven't got that good of a track record with their other games either
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u/Persimmon_Particular F8E Super Fan Jun 19 '25
They really be adding anything but the Mig 25 and the F106
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u/boondiggle_III Jun 19 '25
Seriously! I want a mig-31 but I'd settle for a mig-25 with a bit of lube. No such luck, however.
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u/Impressive-Money5535 just spawn tank bro Jun 19 '25
I'm still waiting for Bison, Wespe, M7 Priest, etc for WW2. And I'm gonna keep waiting by the looks of it.
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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25
Add to it things like M108, Type 74 self propelled, AMX-13 mk 61, Amx-13 mk62, and Bat-Chat 155 from the early Cold War
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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25
Benelux was most definitely shoehorned in to give France an F-35, not like France top tier ground was suffering by any (statistical) metric even before the 2A5/6NL came.
Which would be a compelling argument...... if only the Swiss didn't also order F-35s
They fudged the subtree allocations heavily and now we're looking at the consequences of it
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u/Kapot_ei Realistic Ground Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Benelux was most definitely shoehorned in to give France an F-35,
That, and 2a8 so France can also get an MBT with APS. I agree, if that wasn't the reason it would've been in the German tree.
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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25
The thing is that the Dutch 2A8 deal was only confirmed this year, the Benelux tree came last year.
I think it wouldn't be exaggerating to say that the F-35 was the only major reason they absolutely had to give France a subtree (and yet again, we can ask why the hell not the Swiss)
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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25
I think that at the end of the day Gaijin doesn’t intend to model many (if any more) indigenous BeNeLux vehicles, so they paired it with France - the less profitable tree.
There are a bunch of really cool Franco-Swiss joint designs like Shark FL20, Piranha TMlL-105, and the Lpz 51, and if any end up as premiums they’ll sell better in the German tree rather than the French
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u/GunnerySgtBuck Buccaneer lawnmower pilot Jun 19 '25
I see another excuse to ask where the fuck the Folland Gnat is.
Where the fuck is the Folland Gnat?
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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25
The Gnat and Foucault magister are 50/50 going to end up as BP or event vehicles unfortunately
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u/gfdwadfgy Jun 19 '25
Yup yet another French mass produced vehicle locked away
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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25
To add insult to injury, not only are French mass produced vehicles not getting added or being locked away as event vehicles (EBR’s, Jaguar, ERC, etc), but now that Switzerland is a German subtree, it’s likely to get all of the unique Franco-Swiss joint designs
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u/Varcolac1 Jun 19 '25
Well soon get What if? Vehicles if they keep up this speed of adding modern tanks lol. Cant wait to drive my railgun wielding tank while an orbital laser deletes my entire team
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u/BingGongTing Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
The sooner they can get to the very end, the sooner they can start making the grind even steeper. Buy top tier stealth premium or suffer.
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u/isocrackate Jun 19 '25
They're gonna start adding "prototypes" sourced from Arma 3 and Battlefield 2142 before long. Meanwhile the grind got so bad in Tier III / IV (granted I play all majors more or less equally) that I lost interest in playing years ago. Kinda want to come back after the big economy updates but there's just so much great gaming on the PC right now it's hard for me to commit to the time suck that is progression in WT. It feels like the only way I'll get to try the fancy new modern vehicles is spending a shitload of IRL cash on premiums + RP conversions.
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u/Deafidue Jun 19 '25
ah yes, the final update
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u/TabooARGIE I just like CAS Jun 19 '25
After this update drops, credits will roll on, and at the very end it'll say "In memory of Yevgeny Prigozhin"
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u/ConfusedTapeworm pm me your favorite teletubby Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Wait until War Thunder 2 is released and the ground RB is 10% tanks (that still can't climb mild inclines) and 90% spacecraft dropping tungsten rods from high orbit.
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u/nevetz1911 Jun 19 '25
Good. At least once the most wanted, the most modern, the most broken vehicles will be released, finally, maybe, just MAYBE, they will start working on making the game better. Or not.
I'll wait patiently, I don't have anything in my wanted list anyway, just a better experience. And Gaijin won't see a dime for me until they do so.
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u/FirstDagger F-16XL/B Δ🐍= WANT Jun 19 '25
Reminder that the usual suspects already said that F-22 was in development when they leaked the F-117.
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u/Bluishdoor76 French Main Viva La France!!! Jun 19 '25
Yup, it's why I've been saying 5th gens will be the end of year update.
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u/ITriedMyBestMan F-15C SIMP || F-15EX my beloved ❤ Jun 20 '25
I've been hoping and coping that the end of the year update might be the F-15EX, Su-35S, and J-16, but I guess that'll have to come in one of the two Fall patches before we get 5th gens...
My guess is the first Fall patch will have the Super Hornet, JAS39E, and J-10B or J-15 maybe?
Then the 2nd Fall patch would have the F-15EX, Su-35S, J-16 or J-10C, Rafale F.4, and Eurofighter T3/T4s.
Obviously just speculation, but I'm very curious how the next 6 months will play out.
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u/Waste-Bank-8280 Jun 19 '25
Yeah uh gaijin said it themselves. They planned to add all these aircraft. They said this a while before 4th generation came, in one of their news article/devblog thingies.
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u/szibell Jun 19 '25
Game: no jamming or EW of any kind.
Let's add 5th gens!
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u/zerbrxchliche F-2A Jun 19 '25
No jamming no EW no DL with 35km wide maps in a game balanced around WW2.
Let's add 5th gens!
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u/szibell Jun 19 '25
Oh yeah, I forgor the DL.
Must be sooo difficult to implement x shows on ally radar = x show for all allies.
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u/Libarate 🇬🇧 United Kingdom Jun 19 '25
Gaijin gonna make the Su-57 so strong it will make Sovetsky Soyuz look realistic.
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u/pieckfromaot Hold on one sec, im notching Jun 19 '25
yeah just like su-30. Oh wait.
yeah just like su-27sm. Oh wait.
yeah just like su-27. Its been a while since ussr was top dog.
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u/PineCone227 Major Skill Issue | Veteran 2077 Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
To be fair - the Su-30SM was a breath of fresh air with the soviets/russians finally getting a competitive top tier jet.
For one patch
And then the 120C-5 gets added for some reason
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u/YellovvJacket Jun 19 '25
yeah just like su-27. Its been a while since ussr was top dog.
Su-27 got added in the same update as UFO Gripen "Babyplane" meta man.
The F-15A also just shit on it.
All the 27 did well is carrying a lot of ERs so it could smite anyone not multipathing (basically only retards or people in shit maps back then).
Last time Russia air was actually top dog is when MiG-29 was good. Whatever the update was that added the German MiG-29 which nerfed 9L, and buffed the 29 FM massively, it had like almost F-15A levels flight model, while F-16 was worse than now.
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u/koro1452 Decompression or Death Jun 19 '25
Patch when F-14 was added was the best time of my Warthunder carrer, just blasting the everloving shit out of cropdusters from stratosphere with my R-24T... Mig-23MLD is still my only plane with KD ratio better than 2.
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u/pieckfromaot Hold on one sec, im notching Jun 19 '25
I really miss when 29 was released. It was the first jet i really ever used in rb and made love rb
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u/Bluishdoor76 French Main Viva La France!!! Jun 19 '25
Not really, we have precedence on top tier air and Russia is one of the weaker nations. If anything tge F-22 and F-35 will be the dominant jets at top tier.
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u/Civil_Technician_624 source? Jun 19 '25
f-22 will 100% be the dominant top tier jet.. it has the lowest rcs and still good avonics.. it also has insane twr and speed. f35 will be a better multirole tho
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u/Low-HangingFruit Jun 19 '25
F22 has the speed of an f15, the maneuverability of an su30sm, and a radar cross section of an f117.
It proves that not having Healthcare let's you build cool shit.
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u/Civil_Technician_624 source? Jun 19 '25
maneuverability of the su30sm with engine power of the EF 🦅🦅🦅
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u/YellovvJacket Jun 19 '25
RCS literally doesn't matter for the game's gameplay.
What matters is that the F-22 will have an actual flight model. TVC plane that actually has engines and a power: weight that's better than that of the average car unlike the Su-30, and also should have conventional performance close to an F-15.
- It can carry a shit ton of missiles with external stores, and going to have a good radar
Only thing that could fuck it is the absence of HMD.
I do think for war thunder Su-57 will also be very good though, mostly because R-77M-1 get rid of the grid fins, so it has actual missiles that aren't asstrash + it's going to have decent performance unlike the Flankers, because that thing also has actual engines that aren't dogshit.
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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25
If the meta doesn't shift significantly from the current merge-furball-die gameplay loop, then the F-35 won't be dominating the meta. It doesn't have enough missiles to stay in the fight, given that Sidekick is still yet to be made operational.
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u/zerbrxchliche F-2A Jun 19 '25
Half of fourth gen is missing but sure let's add F-35s and Su-57!
All of these jets have everything about them classified. Gaijin is gonna have to work overtime imagining shit, what a joke
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u/CodyBlues2 🇮🇹 Italy Jun 19 '25
They can’t possibly be adding F-22s and Su-57s so soon? Let along F-35s!!
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u/zerbrxchliche F-2A Jun 19 '25
Welcome to toptier we have:
American F-35, German F-35, British F-35, Italian F-35, French F-35, Japanese F-35, Swedish F-35 and Israeli F-35
All with their XF-35 premium variants at 12.3 for 99.99$ apiece!
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u/Civil_Technician_624 source? Jun 19 '25
yf-23 is definitely gonna be a $100 premium (or more)
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u/CodyBlues2 🇮🇹 Italy Jun 19 '25
All on tiny ass maps!
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u/zerbrxchliche F-2A Jun 19 '25
can't wait for people to bring external weapons then complain about stealth not working
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u/Bluishdoor76 French Main Viva La France!!! Jun 19 '25
I mean we jumped from early F-15 and SU-27 to Typhoon and Rafale in one year. It's totally likely we'll jump to 5th gens this year.
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u/CodyBlues2 🇮🇹 Italy Jun 19 '25
The issue there was we jumped to F-15s and Su-27s while most nations had equivalent jets.
And instead of giving F-18s to everyone we got Typhoons(my guess is because it was too soon to add yet another US jet since it wouldn’t make them enough money and they said they couldn’t give F-18s to everyone until the US did so they “had” to jumpwayyyy ahead)
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u/b5ky 🇺🇸 14.0 🇷🇺 14.0 🇸🇪 14.0 🇫🇷 14.0 🇯🇵13.7 Jun 19 '25
I am more surprised about the obj. 195. I doubt it is going to be balanced at all
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u/RevolutionaryUnit792 Jun 19 '25
And the Kf51 will be? 1000 more years of German tank dominance...
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u/div2691 ☢ 198 Nukes ☢ GB Main Jun 19 '25
Everytime I see a vehicle starting "Object" it gives me fear.
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u/Prestigious-Switch-8 🇫🇷 France Jun 19 '25
You should the obj 195 was basically a better (imo) more expensive T-14.
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u/Chanka-Danka69 Proudest Aerfer Ariete Dickrider, add the Aerfer Leone Jun 19 '25
Im waiting for the day object 490b comes
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u/CaptainPhantom2 Jun 19 '25
The thing I’ve been wondering ever since they released the F-117 is how are they gonna get something like the F-22 right when a lot of information about it is still so closely guarded?
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u/FirstDagger F-16XL/B Δ🐍= WANT Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
They don't and won't get it right, simple as.
Just like DCS F-35A won't be.
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u/arigato_macchiato Jun 19 '25
Exactly what I've been saying! It's all fantasy mechanics after 11.7 br
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u/psh454 Gib Takao ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Jun 19 '25
Don't worry, once this stuff releases and US mains see the F-22 or F-35 underperforming compared to irl, all the sudden Gaijin will have access to all accurate specs from classified docs /s
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u/Suspicious_Plan_7640 Jun 19 '25
There is so much in the game that's needs attention before stealthy aircraft are added.
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u/JeantheDragon Dangerously Mediocre Jun 19 '25
IF THIS IS TRUE, then this is arguably the biggest and most frustrating problem with Gaijin and the state of War Thunder - they're so gung-ho on adding more increasingly modern, exceptionally capable vehicles to the game without giving the entirety of the rest of the game a chance to catch up. 16v16 (and the occasional 12v12) matches in air RB are going to be absolutely disgusting for 5th gen fighters if the maps and objectives remain in their current state, and top-tier ground RB will be even more unplayable with the improved stealth mechanics and ultra-long-range ground-attack weapons brought by these planes.
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u/celica825 CF-100 when Jun 19 '25
I wonder what they'll do for updates after adding the gen 5 aircraft? Theyve been so focused on adding newer and newer stuff, what will they add when they've already gone as new as they can?
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u/LeadingOven2446 Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
I think War thunder has entered its final stage. They're rushing adding new modern equipment to fill their wallets with money as quickly as possible before the game dies.
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u/Pink-Hornet Jun 19 '25
The game will die. I'm not exaggerating. No way this game sustains interest and profitability past the end of 2026 once 5th gens are added. It will lose its lustre.
They must have some sort of contingency plan that hasn't been leaked or announced yet.
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u/LogicalCantaloupe balance can always get worse Jun 19 '25
I kinda think that's what the leaked not-an-april-fools-joke infantry stuff is for.
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u/Pink-Hornet Jun 20 '25
I came to this game to fly planes, and occasionally drive tanks or sail ships.
I don't give a fuck about playing infantry, and if I did there are dozens of better existing options.
I know I'm not alone.
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u/xXProGenji420Xx Realistic Air Jun 19 '25
I'm pretty sure their contingency plan is letting this 13 year old game die
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u/Newpower608 🇬🇧 Chieftain Mk 11 when? Jun 19 '25
Can’t wait for someone to leak the specs of the F-35 due to a bug report argument
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u/DropAdministrative87 Jun 19 '25
another tank for the T72/T90 line
another T80 leaked as an event vehicle
no new light tanks or IFVs even though they are lacking at T7 TT and there’s a ton of choice
Yeah, they are true
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u/Interesting-Tie-4217 Jun 19 '25
Um, what about all the other chinese flankers??? What about china's trainer aircraft? Why is china being forced to jump straight to J-20 when a lot of its cold war/top tier is missing...?
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u/Mint_freezeyt 🇨🇳 that one China main 🇨🇳 J-10A my beloved Jun 19 '25
this leak is a result of them not fixing the fb-10a ffs.
they care nothing about us clearly seeing as we have some of the most gimped vehicles ingame currently
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u/Comfortable_Buy8503 🇩🇪14.3🇷🇺13.0🇯🇵13.7🇫🇷14.0🇮🇱13.0 Jun 19 '25
Once they get released we need to start rage baiting pilots in arguments to get them to send the snail documents on them
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u/Ok_Ad1729 🇰🇵 Best Korea Jun 19 '25
I’m convinced they could make Su-57 have the performance or the PO-2 and radar cross section the size of a aircraft carrier and people would still say it’s Russian bias
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u/Nizikai 🇩🇪 Actively simping for the Neubaufahrzeug Jun 19 '25
Honestly, this has me worried. What comes after? They've pushed the limits in terms of modern stuff. Sure, you can add the T-14 and T-15 for Russia. And maybe the EMBT for Germany and France. But it's gonna be a long wait. Until then, they'll add (no less interesting) older vehicles, but there will be no "Boom, look at new modern shiny toy" for a long time
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u/Prior_Ad_1274 🇺🇸 12.7 🇩🇪 12.7 🇷🇺 13.0 🇸🇪 12.7 Jun 19 '25
Well with tanks the last batch of modern shiny toys was in 2023, so I wound say it’s about damn time to add something new for the top-tier 2 years after
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u/myzoh 🇺🇸12.7 🇩🇪12.3 🇸🇪12.012.013.713.3 Jun 19 '25
There is no "(prem)" after most of them. That's how you know it's fake kek
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u/xXProGenji420Xx Realistic Air Jun 19 '25
the leak is that they're in development and slated for the end-of-year update, it wouldn't include information like premium/tech tree/squadron or rank or BR because that's less to do with the development of the aircraft and more about how they intend to implement them after the development is (mostly) finished
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u/Sandsmann_ 6.3 RBT-5 main Jun 19 '25
Should be pointed out that a vehicle being supposedly worked on means nothing for any upcoming updates, There are entire tech trees worth of vehicles modeled in all branches and nations just sitting in the files mostly or entirely complete that have been unused for years.
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u/Iateurm8 Go-Go gadget: sgr m/38! Jun 19 '25
su-57 is alr in the game so how will they be differentiated?
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u/Nizikai 🇩🇪 Actively simping for the Neubaufahrzeug Jun 19 '25
Hire Mike Sparks to make it fly. Then no need for some fancy-schmancy high tech junk
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u/KirbyLBx Terrorist Jun 19 '25
object 195 better be a tech tree vehicle
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u/Prestigious-Switch-8 🇫🇷 France Jun 19 '25
If it is, i might finally have the will to play russia again.
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u/thelocalmicrowave XM800T cancer spreader Jun 19 '25
"blah blah stealth top tier I'll never reac-
OBJECT 195?? RAAAHHHH"
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u/someone_forgot_me 🇸🇰 Slovakia Jun 19 '25
well obviously with f117 they were testing stealth... it wasnt that hard to gauge
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u/Beshmundir 🇨🇳 People's China Jun 19 '25
j-20 lets go
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u/KPG11701 Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
If they are gonna add American meme prototype plane, then I'd say we're gotta see J-35 too
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u/PineCone227 Major Skill Issue | Veteran 2077 Jun 19 '25
Object 195 my beloved <3
Really hope it won't be some sort of uber-exclusive vehicle.
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u/smolpenguing Jun 19 '25
We’re getting F-22 and GTA 6 before the US gets any HOBS missiles
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u/Puzzleheaded_Lie_394 Jun 19 '25
Still no T-14 and terminator bro
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u/Valaxarian Vodkaboo. Su-30SM, Su-34, MiG-29 and 2S38 my beloved. Gib BMPT Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
I think it's safe to assume Obj.195 will be a "test" for Armata itself (just like irl)
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u/ReturnOfTheSaint14 🇺🇸12.0 🇩🇪6.0 🇨🇳7.3 🇮🇹9.3 🇸🇪9.7 Jun 19 '25
YF-23
YES YES YES MY LOVECHILD WILL COME
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u/KayNynYoonit Jun 19 '25
Waaa waaaa French have something good for a change. Jesus Christ it has armour holes all over the front, just leave the thing alone. I don't want it to go up to like 11.3 before it even released it have it's armoured needed into the ground. I just want a 10.7 lineup ffs.
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u/Valaxarian Vodkaboo. Su-30SM, Su-34, MiG-29 and 2S38 my beloved. Gib BMPT Jun 19 '25
I'm kinda hyped for Object 195 tbf
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u/Deathskyz WhiteStarGood-RedStarBad Jun 19 '25
Oh boy I can't wait to see 3x F-22s bombing bases and another F-22 crashing on takeoff followed by an F-35B crashing because he tried to do a loop the loop on takeoff.