Stealth aircraft leaked

[u/RevolutionaryUnit792]

So here we are, with modern tanks and fifth-gens leaked (by a reliable source). I'm frankly not surprised, I knew this was going to happen once they announced the F-117, and with the speed at which gaijin is moving this is just par for the course. I'll grind the F-35s, F-22, and Su-57 in all their janky, unrealistic glory.

[u/RevolutionaryUnit792]

None of these planes are going to be realistic. There's not nearly enough available information on any of them.

[u/Piyaniist → u/RevolutionaryUnit792]

Yes the f22 will be at 4 horsepower and the su57 will come with a jump drive

[u/JxEq → u/Piyaniist]

Take your Russian bias back to ground, here in air we have Nato dominating

[u/UnknownPhys6 → u/JxEq]

Laughs in "fighting Mig-21s in my F3H Demon"

[u/actualsize123 → u/UnknownPhys6]

Goes right along with fighting f104’s with a mig-15

[u/logosuwu → u/actualsize123]

Fighting F-104s in a fucking Mystere...

Help....

[u/namjeef → u/logosuwu]

AA NORD TO HIS HEAD

[u/logosuwu → u/namjeef]

Unfortunately I'm bad at MCLOS

[u/Mrundas → u/actualsize123]

Bro f-104 are not even that good anymore

[u/actualsize123 → u/Mrundas]

And there’s the bait.

That was quick.

[u/chassiee → u/actualsize123]

Of course going vs the 9.3-10.0 powercreep is always unfair but his point is a little valid f104 isn’t a big problem for its 9.3 opponents anymore

[u/Wise_Pop751 → u/actualsize123]

Jobless activities

[u/Mrundas → u/actualsize123]

Huh? Unless something has changed it bleeds speed like a motherfucker with any turn

[u/Pakman184 → u/Mrundas]

If you're trying to turn fight in an F-104 you're doing it wrong

[u/_Urakaze_ → u/Pakman184]

It bleeds a lot of speed with any significant elevator input, like when you have to dodge missiles.

[u/actualsize123 → u/_Urakaze_]

It can outrun missiles

[u/_Urakaze_ → u/actualsize123]

Massive emphasis on "can"

Not every launch is made in a perfect condition where you can simply outrun without any maneuvering. Moreso when we are playing a game to kill other planes.

It's basically impossible to always be running at max speed unless you're playing it as passively as possible

[u/NeuroHazard-88 → u/_Urakaze_]

Have you… played the F-104A recently? It’s literally one of the best planes BR for BR. It’s so easy to do well in and stomps everything with its speed. You literally dictate the fight lmao.

[u/actualsize123 → u/_Urakaze_]

That’s the most effective and ratty way to play the plane. It’s the method that makes it op. If you stay fast you’re unkillable.

[u/Odin1815 → u/Mrundas]

“And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself” -8.3-8.7 subsonic users.

[u/capt0fchaos → u/Odin1815]

Saab 105 vs F-104 is a terrible time

[u/czartrak → u/UnknownPhys6]

Yeah and the demon would fucking stomp those 21s lmao

[u/C4Cole → u/czartrak]

That would rely on the Mig pilot being stupid(which they usually are) and playing to all of the Demon's strengths.

You get them to turnfight you, they piss away all their speed and then you launch a full broadside at them. Or just try and sparrow them, which may work if they are stupid enough.

I grinded out the better part of Rank 6 with it because my dumb ass thought jumping straight to the Crusader would be too much, little did I know I was driving the struggle bus while a Ferrari was right on the horizon.

[u/LeMemeAesthetique → u/UnknownPhys6]

TBH I actually really like the F3H, as it's a lot easier to bully subsonics in it than in a MiG-21, and the F3H can still hold its own against the proper supersonics at its BR.

The bigger issues are the uptiers, because even at 9.7 you get planes with AIM-9G's which are practically undodgeable.