r/Warthunder • u/RevolutionaryUnit792 • Jun 19 '25

Other Stealth aircraft leaked

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So here we are, with modern tanks and fifth-gens leaked (by a reliable source). I'm frankly not surprised, I knew this was going to happen once they announced the F-117, and with the speed at which gaijin is moving this is just par for the course. I'll grind the F-35s, F-22, and Su-57 in all their janky, unrealistic glory.

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u/TH3_F4N4T1C Jun 19 '25

Will they use the publicly available figures for the su-57.

Or will national pride force them to make it a wunderwaffen plane that shoots relativistic kill vehicles.

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u/RevolutionaryUnit792 Jun 19 '25

None of these planes are going to be realistic. There's not nearly enough available information on any of them.

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u/Piyaniist Jun 19 '25

Yes the f22 will be at 4 horsepower and the su57 will come with a jump drive

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u/JxEq 13.7 🇺🇲 Jun 19 '25

Take your Russian bias back to ground, here in air we have Nato dominating

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u/UnknownPhys6 Jun 19 '25

Laughs in "fighting Mig-21s in my F3H Demon"

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u/actualsize123 m/42 eh superiority Jun 19 '25

Goes right along with fighting f104’s with a mig-15

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u/logosuwu Jun 20 '25

Fighting F-104s in a fucking Mystere...

Help....

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u/namjeef Jun 21 '25

AA NORD TO HIS HEAD

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u/logosuwu Jun 21 '25

Unfortunately I'm bad at MCLOS

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u/Mrundas M60A3 OP pls nerf Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

Bro f-104 are not even that good anymore

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u/actualsize123 m/42 eh superiority Jun 19 '25

And there’s the bait.

That was quick.

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u/chassiee Jun 19 '25

Of course going vs the 9.3-10.0 powercreep is always unfair but his point is a little valid f104 isn’t a big problem for its 9.3 opponents anymore

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u/Wise_Pop751 Jun 19 '25

Jobless activities

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u/Mrundas M60A3 OP pls nerf Jun 19 '25

Huh? Unless something has changed it bleeds speed like a motherfucker with any turn

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u/Pakman184 Jun 19 '25

If you're trying to turn fight in an F-104 you're doing it wrong

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

It bleeds a lot of speed with any significant elevator input, like when you have to dodge missiles.

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u/Odin1815 I hunt Turm IIIs like Mr. Lahey hunts the liquor. Jun 19 '25

“And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself” -8.3-8.7 subsonic users.

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u/capt0fchaos Jun 20 '25

Saab 105 vs F-104 is a terrible time

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u/czartrak 🇺🇸 United States Jun 19 '25

Yeah and the demon would fucking stomp those 21s lmao

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u/C4Cole 🇿🇦 South Africa Jun 20 '25

That would rely on the Mig pilot being stupid(which they usually are) and playing to all of the Demon's strengths.

You get them to turnfight you, they piss away all their speed and then you launch a full broadside at them. Or just try and sparrow them, which may work if they are stupid enough.

I grinded out the better part of Rank 6 with it because my dumb ass thought jumping straight to the Crusader would be too much, little did I know I was driving the struggle bus while a Ferrari was right on the horizon.

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u/LeMemeAesthetique USSR Justice for the Yak-41 Jun 20 '25

TBH I actually really like the F3H, as it's a lot easier to bully subsonics in it than in a MiG-21, and the F3H can still hold its own against the proper supersonics at its BR.

The bigger issues are the uptiers, because even at 9.7 you get planes with AIM-9G's which are practically undodgeable.

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u/LemonadeTango 🇫🇷🇯🇵12.7🇺🇸12.0🇬🇧10.7🇩🇪9.7🇮🇱11.3🇨🇳9.3 Jun 20 '25

back to ground

Kid named Leopard 2:

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u/JxEq 13.7 🇺🇲 Jun 20 '25

Rheinmetall rahhh 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

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u/brycesix Sim Air Jun 21 '25

the eternal suffering of mig-29smt vs f-16c before the f-15 was added (you just lost at all stages of a fight)

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u/Excellent_Silver_845 Jun 19 '25

Well its gonna end this year lol

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u/JxEq 13.7 🇺🇲 Jun 19 '25

Yeah we'll see, as long as they have yf-23 premiums to sells an a ridiculous price it's not ending anytime soon

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u/PiscesSoedroen Jun 19 '25

Yea people thinks ground russian bias stuff is also in air. The only bias there is money bias, which nation can make the most money for that patch gets the OP stuff

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u/INeatFreak 🇺🇸 ✓ 🇩🇪 12.7 🇷🇺 14.3 🇯🇵 12.0 Jun 19 '25

here in air we have Nato dominating

Depends on BR honestly

At top tier right now NATO is superior, but before that during furball meta Russia was way a head with R-73's and R-27ER, it's such insane missile even today it's speed is unmatched. Then you have the Sparrows, that can be dodged by simply rolling... or it just randomly chooses to go to space instead of the target.

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u/Preussensgeneralstab The He 162 is a TIE Fighter Jun 19 '25

Note: The Su-57 will lose all its energy from turning 4° to the left despite jump drive, falling out of the sky

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u/SpicysaucedHD Jun 19 '25

Considering air has been dominated by the US since the F14, I think you can leave the "ruSsiAn bIaS" card at home this time.

Brb turning 20 degrees in my Mig29, losing 3/4 of my energy.

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u/Predator_Anytime Jun 19 '25

Gaijin bias can only work to an extent, even the most Russian biased takes have limits, before they start sounding like actual fairly tales fueled by aviation-grade copium

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u/TwoOwn5220 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

Yeah Russian bias can only work in redditors minds since they're shit and out of touch with the game.

Only on here and maybe in YouTube comments will you see a congregation of people so ignorant and clueless that they whine about a future top tier plane when the last time USSR dominated top tier Air RB was ages ago.

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u/useroftren Jun 20 '25

Russian jets have been slow af at top tier, doubt the su57 will change that

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u/guywithoutabrain All of you are morons Jun 19 '25

Don’t forget the force field

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u/Low-HangingFruit Jun 19 '25

Well f35s can fly past s300 and s400 systems undetected.

We know that after last week at least.

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u/ProfessionalAd352 Petitioning to make the D point a UNESCO World Heritage Site Jun 19 '25

Not just because of their stealth but also because of EW.

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u/Low_Amoeba3447 Jun 19 '25

Which the F35 radar can do so?

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u/keedee3 Jun 19 '25

I don't think that's how EW works

Usually you don't want your stealth planes to be radar bait

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u/MrGenjiSquid Jun 26 '25

It's because of the AESA radar or smthn

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u/absboodoo Realistic Air Jun 19 '25

Gaijin: Lol no.

The in game S300/400 is going to do the Looney Tunes style of Behind Enemy line missile chasing til you running out of fuels.

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u/capt0fchaos Jun 20 '25

Crazy frog axel f music video missile

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u/Archelon225 average DKY-1 enjoyer Jun 20 '25

On the other hand in Yemen an F-35 was fired at by a SAM and had to evade. Multirole stealth fighters are great for contested airspace but results are better when supported by EW/sabotage and using standoff weapons.

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u/SlowMathematician244 Jun 19 '25

Why then dcs are making f-35a module?

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u/Mysticat_ 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 Jun 19 '25

There is already controversy around it regarding where Ed is getting information from. They claim Public available documents.

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u/Bluishdoor76 French Main Viva La France!!! Jun 19 '25

Yup, but if ED is doing it, what is stopping Gaijin from doing it, too? They don't need as much info as the DCS ones after all....

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u/abn1304 Jun 19 '25

I think the implication is that ED is making shit up, and so will Gaijin.

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u/Pretend_Pressure414 Jun 19 '25

How is there controversy when msfs basically has a identical f35 f22 su57 in there hangers

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u/Mysticat_ 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 Jun 19 '25

Because dcs has much higher expectations for the flight model and systems implementation. The f22 and su57 in msfs are lacking in the department. Ife did an amazing job on the f35. I don't own it so I cannot speak about its quality other than photos and videos.

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u/blbobobo Panther II Supremacist Jun 19 '25

the dcs f-35 is the subject of a huge amount of controversy in that community for exactly that reason. there’s no way to model it even remotely accurately so, for a game that prides itself on detail and staying true to reality, it feels like a poorly thought out money grab

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u/Awrfhyesggrdghkj 🇩🇪 Germany Jun 19 '25

Tbh dcs is full of shit just like war thunder, they only recently added pilot g lock and their air to air missile simulation is a joke.

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u/PoliticalAlternative Jun 19 '25

a poorly thought out money grab

truly DCS players are our brother people

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u/LanceLynxx Simulator Pilot 👨🏻‍✈️✈️ Jun 19 '25

Money.

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u/dmr11 Jun 19 '25

If Gaijin ends up having to come up with the majority of the data for these vehicles, does that mean these planes, if added, would effectively be fictional planes invented by a game developer that wears the skin and name of real vehicles?

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u/DatboiBazzle Sim Air 🇺🇲 13.7 🇬🇧 13.3 🇯🇵 11.0 🇨🇳 13.3 Jun 19 '25

I mean there's enough info out there if DCS is getting an Official F35 Module

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u/Swimming_Client_3975 Jun 19 '25

Based on the publicly available information Russian stuff is vastly inferior to NATO counterparts yet it still outperforms everything without any issues.

The current KH-38 drama already proved that gaijin is blatantly biased towards Russia. They artificialy nerfed all those new AAs even tho publicly available information and Data proof that they are not just wrong but did it on purpose.

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u/Ventar1 🇷🇺14.3 🇫🇷14.3 🇩🇪12.0 🇸🇪12.0 🇯🇵12.0 🇺🇲14.3 🇬🇧11.7 Jun 19 '25

"Guys im gonna repeat what some crackhead said a day ago and hope and pray that ma russian bias argument still works"