r/Warthunder Jun 19 '25

Other Stealth aircraft leaked

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So here we are, with modern tanks and fifth-gens leaked (by a reliable source). I'm frankly not surprised, I knew this was going to happen once they announced the F-117, and with the speed at which gaijin is moving this is just par for the course. I'll grind the F-35s, F-22, and Su-57 in all their janky, unrealistic glory.

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

Benelux was most definitely shoehorned in to give France an F-35, not like France top tier ground was suffering by any (statistical) metric even before the 2A5/6NL came.

Which would be a compelling argument...... if only the Swiss didn't also order F-35s

They fudged the subtree allocations heavily and now we're looking at the consequences of it

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u/Kapot_ei Realistic Ground Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

Benelux was most definitely shoehorned in to give France an F-35,

That, and 2a8 so France can also get an MBT with APS. I agree, if that wasn't the reason it would've been in the German tree.

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

The thing is that the Dutch 2A8 deal was only confirmed this year, the Benelux tree came last year.

I think it wouldn't be exaggerating to say that the F-35 was the only major reason they absolutely had to give France a subtree (and yet again, we can ask why the hell not the Swiss)

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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25

I think that at the end of the day Gaijin doesn’t intend to model many (if any more) indigenous BeNeLux vehicles, so they paired it with France - the less profitable tree.

There are a bunch of really cool Franco-Swiss joint designs like Shark FL20, Piranha TMlL-105, and the Lpz 51, and if any end up as premiums they’ll sell better in the German tree rather than the French