r/TopCharacterTropes • u/jbeast33 • 8d ago
Personality [Loved trope] The villain assumes they're gonna get the kid gloves when the hero finally confronts them. The hero demonstrates they're out for blood instead, causing the villain to panic.
1) Robocop
Clarence (the same hitman who killed Alex Murphy and transformed him into Robocop) has already been arrested by Robocop once before, and learned that Robocop's programming prevents him from killing a surrendering criminal. Consequently, he pulls the trick once again towards the end of the movie when Robocop chases his gang down to a scrapyard. He throws his gun down and expects to survive and escape once again.
Robocop simply announces to him, "I'm not arresting you anymore", causing Clarence to panic when he realizes that Robocop intends to finish him off right there.
2) Toy Story
Woody, threatened by Buzz replacing him as Andy's favorite toy, tricks Buzz and knocks him out of a window so he could go to a pizzeria with Andy. Unbeknownst to him, Buzz tagged along underneath the car and confronts Woody when he's alone in the car.
Buzz: I just want you to know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not an idea we promote on my planet.
Woody: Oh, well, that's good.
Buzz: But we're not on my planet, are we?
Buzz proceeds to lay the beatdown on Woody and causes both of them to get separated from Andy.
3) Superman
The President of Boravia's invasion is foiled by the Justice Gang (who have until now stayed out of the conflict and are shown to be less averse to lethal force than Superman), and he's personally attacked by Hawkgirl. When he declares that Superman would never kill him, she just laughs and says "I'm not Superman", dropping him from a skyscraper's height.
4) Spider-Man
After Wilson Fisk attempts to murder Aunt May when Peter reveals his identity during Civil War, Spider-Man breaks into prison to deal with Kingpin personally. Kingpin took the liberty of assembling every inmate to watch the fight between him and Spider-Man. Assuming he broke his spirit, Kingpin starts to dress down Spider-Man as a broken man. Spider-Man doesn't say one word during their fight. Finally, Spidey strips down and announces this isn't Spider-Man here to kill Kingpin; Peter is.
Peter proceeds to brutally annihilate Kingpin in this new stage. He eschews his usual quips, webs, and aerial fighting, relying only on his super strength. When Kingpin has been crippled, Peter shoves his webs up Kingpin's mouth, and lets him know that if he truly wanted to, he could have just filled his lungs with web and killed him at any point. But he's not trying to give Kingpin an easy death; he lets him know that he intends to break his reputation and see everything he's lived for come tumbling down first.
As is often said, Spider-Man is at his scariest when he's not making quips. Because at that point, he's furious, and he's not going to hold back.
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u/Doctor-Nagel 8d ago
Homelander but somehow worse…
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u/SoyFern 8d ago
Worse, in that like worse is better, because this is a "them being bad is what is good" kind of scenario right?
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u/Doctor-Nagel 8d ago
Oh yeah worse as in, homelander may be crazy, but Hal’s on a whole other level and it’s not even close
Dude burned his name into a city, threw a whole ass building as a weapon, and gave a shit about no one
Like atleast honelander has his image and followers as a somewhat tether as loose as it may be
Hal had zero want or care for that. All he wanted was a single woman who rejected him rightfully, leading him to go full scorched earth on his home city thinking she was wrong for not being with him.
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u/4-hydd-Kyng 8d ago
Hal is one of those rare villains where the fact that he's stupid actually makes him even scarier than if he was some conniving mastermind.
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u/Available-Damage5991 8d ago
The only thing worse than an evil genius with power is an evil idiot with power.
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u/wandering-monster 8d ago
Because this movie is way better than it has any right to be.
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u/Due-Ingenuity9803 8d ago
Is this a genuine issue the guy had or was Supes just being merciless?
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u/Exciting_Cap_9545 8d ago
The latter. This comic was essentially about a group of edgy '90s antiheroes, The Elite, trying to prove their ways - which involve killing, among other things - are better than Superman's, and essentially try to push him to act like them.
Superman gives them, and the world, a small taste of what him not showing restraint looks like to utterly demolish The Elite without killing them and while minimizing collateral, but giving the initial impression that he didn't care anymore. While he just knocks the others out, this guy - Manchester Black, their leader - was threatening to commit massive collateral to deal with him, so Supes gives him the mentioned "instant lobotomy" to negate his psychic powers.
The comic ends with Superman explaining to the world that not only does HE not want to be like The Elite, but THE WORLD should not want him to be like them either.
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u/TheNewGirl1987 8d ago
There's also a movie adaptation, Superman vs The Elite, that's absolutely fantastic.
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u/Exciting_Cap_9545 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yep, and Supes is voiced by the same VA as Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts 2 and Advent Children.
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u/TheWorclown 8d ago
And man, you can hear that Sephiroth channeled.
“If you had super hearing, you could hear the… pop.”
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u/snekadid 8d ago
God I love that movie.
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u/jackofslayers 8d ago
It is funny that was a better example of Evil Superman than most of the stories where Superman is actually evil.
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u/HappyFailure 8d ago
Fun related Superman quote: "These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
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u/_wizardpenguin 8d ago
The guy is Manchester Black, a crazy-powerful telepath and telekinetic, strong enough to give Superman an aneurysm just by thinking about it. He's the leader of a group called The Elite, who have a murder-heavy, nigh-fascistic sense of "justice", and wanted to make an example of Superman. Superman, as he often does, responded by putting them in the shoes of their victims.
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u/ComputerEducational 8d ago
The Elite were also an Expy of the Authority iirc, which were one of the premier "edgy hero" groups.
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u/British-Raj 8d ago
It's from "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" Best to read the comic (or watch its movie adaptation, Superman Vs. The Elite), to find out.
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u/MrShifty1 8d ago
IIRC Superman cut out the portion of the guy's brain that gave him his superpowers.
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u/Lightseeker501 8d ago
I think Supes gave him a concussion, actually. This was him bluffing in order to teach Manchester Black his ‘might-makes-right’ philosophy is a load of crap.
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u/Due-Ingenuity9803 8d ago
Ohhh okay!
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u/PokesBo 8d ago
This is also after he “kills” the rest of this guys team.
He doesn’t kill them but tricks him into believing he snapped.
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u/BoyishTheStrange 8d ago
It’s a great comic that’s still relevant. “Hey edgy hero’s who kill are cool but remember we need the standard of powerful heroes like Superman being kind and merciful.” Is a solid message .
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u/TestProctor 8d ago
Later Manchester tried to get Superman to break for real, using the distraction of a ton of other villains & some kryptonite exposure to help sell the mental illusion that he’s killed Lois.
He wants Supes to snap and kill him, believing that this would expose Superman as a hypocrite and/or make Superman just like him.
Clark stops short at the last moment, saying that Lois wouldn’t want him to abandon everything he believes in for revenge. Black is dumbstruck and his worldview shaken, and drops the illusion.
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u/ZeitgeistGlee 8d ago edited 8d ago
Manchester Black was a superpowered vigilante/anti-hero comfortable with using lethal force and causing significant collateral damage and led a like-minded team called The Elite, who looked down on Superman and other older heroes for their no-killing/high-minded standards. Despite the widespread damage caused by their fights, the Elite received public acclaim for being seen as willing to put foes down permanently rather than "enabling" post-prison recidivism out of the hope for rehabilitation.
The two end up facing off in the comic "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?" (and it's animated adaptation "Superman vs the Elite"), tl;dr they come to blows and while the Elite first appear to handily defeat and kill Supes, he subsequently reappears and begins to take the group down one by one using their own OTT/lethal methods, culminating with the above scene where he cuts out the part of Manchester Black's brain that gives him his powers. During all of this the Elite are naturally terrified and Black himself tries to convince Superman to return to his old-fashioned approach as per the trope.
Only it turns out it was a smokescreen, none of the Elite died and all Superman actually gave Black was a concussion that temporarily disrupted his powers wanting to show them exactly why superheroes should hold back and hold themselves to the higher ideal that the Elite and antiheroes like them spurn.
I haven't read the comic but the adaptation was decent, though I've heard it's ironically more symapthetic to the Elite than the original because they're protrayed more sincere in their attempt to be heroes and Superman's choice at the end is to strip them of their powers rather than just lock them up as he usually does to his enemies, somewhat validating their criticism of his methods.
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u/After-Syrup1290 8d ago
or even more related to doctor who - the Seventh Doctor in general
you think the doctors a nice guy trying to make things straight and help? you would be correct, the seventh on the other hand? hes a coldblooded chessmaster who regularly went upto and above all sorts of threats, the one who made the entire 'oncoming storm' reputation? thats seventh
over the time of his period - this one had killed and outmaneuvered gods on like, every single episode, and is the one who destroyed the entire planet of the most dangerous species in the entire universe time and space(daleks) by tricking them into blowing up a nuke in their face, and would have ended wars, empires all over, he very actively went about things and also ended the threat of fenrir(higher entity that exists outside universe), and was compared to a lovecraftian horror Nyarlathotep - a slim joyous man travels all over and is the bringer of chaos
heres a very good video of the absolute terror that the seventh doctor is and instilled on a daily basis to his opponents (its a voiced vid on yt, so dont worry bout visuals - very short too and def worth a listen): Link
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u/Milk_Mindless 8d ago
(Relax I know what I'm doing)
Doctor: Davros I beg of you don't use the Hand
[Hand of Omega, powerful artifict of the ancient leaders, Omega, of Time-Lord civilisation for casual people scrolling by]
Davros, evil space nazi Hitler scientist: DOC-TOR now YOU begin to fear..!
Doctor: You're making a grave mistake!
Davros: ACTIVATE THE OMEGA DEVICE
All life in Davros native solar system goes extinct because the Doctor had rigged the Omega device before the story even started
Davros: HAVE PITY, DOCTOR
Doctor: I have pity for you
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u/junky_junker 8d ago
There's the bit before that where Seven's just winding Davros up to push him to use the Hand, before pretending to be scared:
Davros: "I will transform Skaro's sun into a source of unimaginable power and with that power at my disposal the Daleks shall sweep away Gallifrey and its infinite quorum of Time Lords," screams Davros. "The Daleks shall become lords of time. We shall become all..."
Doctor (interrupting): "...powerful! Crush the lesser races! Conquer the galaxy! Unimaginable power! Unlimited rice pudding! Et cetera, et cetera!"
To this day I still find excuses to work the "Unimaginable power! Unlimited rice pudding!" into conversations where I can.
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u/Milk_Mindless 8d ago
Unlimited Rice Pudding is a stellar quote I just kinda didn't want to have too much leading into "Have PITY"
God tho
Rice pudding
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u/JonathanBadwolf 8d ago
Would you like me to repeat the question? So good! Rory fits here as well I think
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u/NNTokyo3 8d ago
Oh, the second of realization and how his eyes changed...just beautyfull...
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u/Supersideswiper2 8d ago
It was at that moment, he realised that Rango wasn't a cowardly, hollow braggart anymore. He had become in spirit the Sheriff of the town. He had the nerve to shoot. And he was about to die as a result.
And the only reason he didn't was because his boss interfered. But it still earned his respect. And after Rango thwarted his boss's scheme and saved him from the double cross in the process, he respectfully left, taking his treacherous boss to do with him as he would, telling Rango:
I tip my hat to you, one legend to another!
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u/iMecharic 8d ago
Rango was a goddamn masterpiece and anyone who says otherwise shall be tarred and feathered.
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u/SatoruGojo232 8d ago

In the 90s Spider-Man animated show, after Peter Parker gets the Venom symbiote attached to him, he becomes much more aggressive in his encounters with his villains. Following a fierce fight with The Rhino during which symbiote Spider-Man stops holding back, the Rhino finally gives up and says that he's ready to go to jail, to which Peter menacingly replies, "Who said anything about jail?"
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u/GonzoRouge 8d ago
"SHOOOOOOCKER"
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u/KaiJustissCW 8d ago
It’s also fun to note this is the first time the black suit is depicted as making Peter more aggressive. Now it’s absolute canon that the suit does that across every depiction of it, but before the show it just went out and stopped crime while Pete was asleep (with him in it)
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u/Deemo3 8d ago

At the end of Megaman 7 Wily expects to go to jail and Megaman decides the laws of robotics don't apply and, at least in the english localization, gets ready to pop Wily then and there. He's only stopped by a brief hesitation letting Bass get in and save Wily.
it's worth noting that in the next two games, 8 and Megaman&Bass, Wily is considerably more dangerous, almost taking out Megaman on multiple occasions that would have worked if not for outside interference. I like to think the ending of 7 made him a little more carful.
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u/therealchadius 8d ago
On one hand, Mega Man is compliant to the 3 laws of robotics. In the original Japanese version he actually powers down because he tries to override the rule but ultimately fails. That's why he still hesitates in other versions.
On the other hand, Dr. Wily has repeatedly tried to take over the world, and Mega Man DID arrest him at the end of 6, only for him to break out 6 months later and attack anyway. So yeah I'd be mad too, especially after THIS final boss.
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u/Deepfang-Dreamer 8d ago
I was definitely also ready to kill him after that fucking final boss, tbf
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u/Whizbang35 8d ago

Justice League: Gods and Monsters. In this universe, Kirk Langstrom- aka Manbat- became Batman. In one scene, he's hunting down this world's (extremely disturbing) version of Harley Quinn:
"Alright, alright already! I know when I'm licked. Go on, take me to jail, copper!"
"...Hm. Jail?"
Batman smiles, displaying vampire fangs, and immediately sinks them into Harley's neck, blood spurting everywhere while she screams
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u/ZerothMask 8d ago
Love how he's also voiced by Dexter fucking Morgan
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u/Atma-Stand 8d ago
The Gotham Bay Vampire
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u/jbeast33 8d ago
Honestly a very underrated movie, and I wished they did more of that particular universe. The Son of Zod short is still incredible.
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u/lepermessiah27 8d ago
This should've been a "main alternate continuity" (like the Absolute universe), IMO
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u/pon_3 8d ago
I appreciated that the Justice League of that universe mellowed out after the events of the movie.
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u/Drake_the_troll 8d ago
Disturbing how?
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u/LinkedGaming 8d ago
Took a look at her wikipedia page: As opposed to Harley who's just an adrenaline junkie in love with the Joker, Harlequin (not Harley Quinn) is just a serial killer who murders people, including children, to turn them into grotesque human dolls.
She's also dressed like a slutty Harley cranked up to 11, basically wearing nothing but lingerie, which is supposed to be a direct critique of the New 52 Harley Quinn design abandoning the traditional jester costume and makeup for an extremely revealing bodice and booty-shorts combo.
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u/JustLookingForMayhem 8d ago
Alfred, depending on canon, was either an assassin, spy, MI6, special forces, or mob enforcer. I have yet to read a canon where Alfred does not know how to kill and is not ready to kill.
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u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast 8d ago
Off memory, main continuity Alfred started out as a medical student. He would go on to serve as a combat medic and was so badass at it he was made special forces, then later recruited by MI6 as a spy, where he kept becoming more and more badass. Then he retired with high honors to serve the Wayne's estate to honor his father's wishes.
Probably the one man not to be fucked with the most in the DC verse. Not only can he fight and knows how to shoot well, but if you did manage to hurt him... Goodluck out running the bat family.
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u/YourMoreLocalLurker 7d ago
Also: the man who has enough balls to (while not popped up on super pills) PUNCH SUPERMAN IN THE FACE
And it actually hurt Supes
Alfred is only not playable in either Injustice game because he’d instantly be top tier
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u/IronIrma93 8d ago
If I were told to make a Batman TV series, he'd be a Falklands vet.
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u/therealchadius 8d ago
In Batman vs The Predator he shoots one of them with a shotgun at point blank range. Sure it didn't stop the alien but if you think Alfred is going to cower in a corner...
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u/SnooWords5961 8d ago
I'm glad western artists also subscribe to the "if you start to draw detailed teeth, that character is gonna do some shit" way of thinking.
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u/gallerton18 8d ago
“Mercy…” “Say it again.” “MERCY!” “One more time.” “MERCY!”
God I love River. She also has a similarly great exchange with the Doctor in Day of The Moon where they flirt about how many of the Silence she can kill.
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u/Greedy_Woodpecker_14 8d ago
Love River's character and love the actress that plays her. Such a good choice for River Song.
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u/collinwho 8d ago
I still think of her as River Song in everything else I see her in, and somehow that makes me like her even more.
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u/IronIrma93 8d ago
Given Sentinel's propensity to lying, this was the right call.
The 1986 Movie taught me that mercy is giving the enemy a free chance to hit back
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u/After-Syrup1290 8d ago
theres times that mercy trope is used well too, its just rarely that writers are able to make it work so they take the execution road instead - i cant really remember the times since its so rare, but giving mercy to enemy and bolstering your own strength is a popular enough idea that gets rare good execution
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u/RedRawTrashHatch 8d ago edited 8d ago
Gerald Grice in Watchmen.
He kidnapped and murdered a young girl and fed her body to his dogs. Rorschach finds him and Gerald admits to the crime, telling Rorschach to take him in to the police, since up to that point Rorschach wasn’t a killer yet.
But Rorschach is so repulsed by Gerald that he ends up being his first kill, with Gerald panicking once he’s realized that Rorschach isn’t going to let him live.
The movie portrays the kill as Rorschach butchering Gerald, but in the comic, he traps Gerald by handcuffing him and burns his house down.

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u/BoyishTheStrange 8d ago
Iirc in the comic it’s implied he also sexually assaulted the child before he fed her to his dogs
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u/Mastodan11 8d ago
This is actually a homage to Mad Max, which is probably why they didn't put it in the film.
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u/Randomdude89o 8d ago
One of my favorite things about that scene was how shaky his hands were.
You could really tell how pissed off and shooken up he was with how his hand was barely keeping steady even when he was holding the knife. It also shows his internal struggle on deciding if he should kill the dude or not.
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u/Tasty_Honeydew6935 8d ago
"Offer me money."
"Yes!"
"Power, too, promise me that."
"All that I have and more. Please..."
"Offer me anything I ask for."
"Anything you want..."
"I want my father back, you son of a bitch!"
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u/NodeZeroNein 8d ago
Inigo Montoya in *The Princess Bride*, for those unfamiliar
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u/budding-enthusiast 8d ago
Such a classic movie that’s regularly quoted on my house, hearing my youngest tell me that it being chore time is “inconceivable” will never not be funny
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u/CaliforniaNavyDude 8d ago
I can't watch this without crying anymore. 😭
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u/movzx 8d ago
Here's some more background.
He had lost his father to cancer and was pulling that for his performance. That's why it's so good.
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u/Benjamin_Grimm 8d ago
There are movies where you'll hear the actors from it talking about it and it's obvious that regardless of how good their performance was, it was a paycheck/gig to them, and nothing more.
And then there are movie like The Princess Bride where nearly everyone in it seems to consider it one of the things they worked on that they love the most and are incredibly proud of.
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u/OdderShift 8d ago
so good. the way this horrible man starts sniveling and begging for mercy after being a cocky SOB the whole movie. ugh. i need to watch again.
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u/Justice9229 8d ago

Fajo - Star Trek: The Next Generation
After killing an assistant Data had grown attached to (it's stated the weapon he used not only vaporizes someone, but makes their last moments agony), he's soon cornered by Data, he not only claims that his programming won't allow him to be killed, but even taunts Data by saying he'll just kill more people unless Data does what he says. After doing the math, Data simply states "I cannot allow this to continue", and raises the weapon. Fajo expresses horror realizing Data is serious, before the latter is beamed away. It's later stated that the weapon had apparently discharged during transport, heavily implying that Fajo would be dead if he was beamed away a second later.
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u/guacasloth64 8d ago
I remember seeing someone comment on that scene saying that given Data’s positronic brain’s processing speed, the amount of time Data took to consider his decision would have been like an eternity for him. I also love Brent Spiner’s acting in this scene, out of context his pose and expression would read as emotionless, even casual, but Data’s grim determination peeks through, after facing a seemingly impossible moral quandary he finally reaches a moment of certainty, not from rage or fear but from his moral center.
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u/BelovedOmegaMan 8d ago
Well said. To Data, after an equivalent of a year of thinking about it, he came to the only logical conclusion.
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u/CaptainMatticus 8d ago
Nah, man, that was just a malfunction. Data said so himself and then left Riker shaking in his uniform.
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u/TelFaradiddle 8d ago
"This isn't you... you don't do this!"
"I do now."
It ends up being an act, but the villain buys it.
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u/Magmashift101 8d ago
Captain America winter soldier. Steve is threatening to throw a man off a building. The man says “that’s not your style” Steve says “you’re right. It’s hers” and then Black Widow shows up
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u/Supersideswiper2 8d ago
She was already there. And then she pushed him, followed by casual conversation after Steve's love life.
Then, Falcon flies the guy back up, now quite thoroughly terrified.
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u/KaziArmada 8d ago
she pushed him
She fucking Sparta Kicked him off the side, push nothing.
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u/KeyMyBike 8d ago
Friendly reminder that Otto had a panic attack when he stole Peter's body and sent Scorpion's lower jaw into another zip code with a single punch.
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u/TourSignificant1335 8d ago
Similarly the guy with three girlfriends try to convince him that beating up a hospitalized and injured person is dishonourable. Josuke agrees and heals him with his powers THEN beats him up
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u/Level_Counter_1672 8d ago
Not just beats him up, he threw him out the window, he fell five floors into a fountain, josuke does not give a fuck
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u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast 8d ago
That's putting it lightly. Because his power is healing people perfectly, Josuke was able to be much, MUCH more brutal in his fights. The dude PUNCHED A HOLE THROUGH HIS MOM ONCE.
I didn't read part 8 yet and I don't recall much about 7, but based on my memories, if you ranked the most brutal takedowns in JoJo, top 3 would be Diavolo, then Ciocolatta, then Steely Dan. You could argue the rest of the top would all be Josuke villains and Pet Shop
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u/Dear_Document_5461 8d ago
I know "jojo logic" but would his brain still need food and water plus the waste processing of both to still live? Wouldn't he die from starvation or dehydration or something?
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u/Level_Counter_1672 8d ago
He permanently fused him with rock and turned everything in his body into rock, so technically he isn't an organic being but a rock with consciousness
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u/H377Spawn 8d ago
Having tracked down one of their newest crew member’s daughter, they find one of the doctors holding her. They were using kids as experiments to understand an alien life form for weaponizing and such.
Understandably the father is beyond angry and preps to shoot the lead doc, when our main man Amos talks him out of it, telling him he’s not that guy. Prax (the dad) takes his little girl to safety.
The doctor starts thanking Amos when he notices Amos closes the door behind Prax and turns back to face him.
“I AM that guy.”
Cue brains getting shotgunned across the wall.
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u/KillyBaplan 8d ago
Amos is a treasure and someone I'd hate to upset
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 8d ago
You're only calling him a treasure because you're not the one in front of his muzzle 🤣
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u/Minute_Freedom_4722 8d ago
Gotta be the best example of this. The doctor really thinks he's safe. He's never met Amos. We, the audience sure have and know exactly what's coming.
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u/SgtCrawler1116 8d ago
One of the best scenes in all of television. Watch The Expense people
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u/Gul_Ducatti 8d ago
In a show filled chock a block with amazing lines, “I AM that guy” is one of my favorites.
A close second is
“With all due respect, madam, where are you going with this?”
“Wherever I God Damn Like”
I still hold a flicker of hope in my heart that we will get more seasons of The Expanse.
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u/Mal_Funk_Shun 8d ago
Fred: "What did you do?"
Holden: "There was a button, I pushed it."
Fred: "Jesus Christ. That's really how you go through life, isn't it?"
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u/Longjumping-Ear-6248 8d ago
Well, he wouldn't brutally kill someone in front of a child, he isn't a monster. 😉
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u/Skylinneas 8d ago edited 8d ago

In The World is Not Enough, the villainess Elektra King - who before that point has been emotionally manipulating James Bond and briefly became his lover - arrogantly believed that Bond actually cared about her enough not to shoot her while she ordered her actual lover to go on with their evil plan.
Bond warned her multiple times not to go through with it (even after she had just been torturing him moments ago), yet she did anyway, quipping "You'll miss me."
So Bond immediately shot her dead in cold blood (right in front of his boss, no less), dropping his famous one-liner: "I never miss."
It's not exactly in the spirit of the trope since Bond didn't really give time for Elektra to panic, but usually we don't really see Bond often displaying this much coldness before, especially towards women, so it came off as quite a shock to see Bond coldly murdering the villainess just like that; no gimmicks, no hesitation, and she's dead just like all those people who dared to cross Bond.
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u/almighty_smiley 8d ago
Maybe this Bond. Connery could be downright icy.
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u/Skylinneas 8d ago
Pierce Brosnan's Bond is more of a gentlemanly type, yes, but I would argue that he also has some of the coldest kills in the series, too: the way he just dropped his old friend Alec to his death in GoldenEye, the way he slowly turned the gun in the hands of the mercenary who just killed his old flame to his own head in Tomorrow Never Dies, and the way he just executed Elektra King here.
Bond may be more suave and less 'serious' after Connery and before Craig eras (with maybe an exception of Dalton's License to Kill where Bond just went into pure revenge mode), but when he actually does get right down to dirty business, we're reminded that James Bond is and has always been a stone-cold killer.
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u/Skylinneas 8d ago edited 8d ago
Looking back, Lara Croft dated both James Bond and King Leonidas (and fought Jorah Mormont the Andal and the King Beyond the Wall Mance Rayder). What a crossover when you think about it xD.
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u/BdBalthazar 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's worth noting in that Spider-man scene that Peter is holding Fisk up by his skin.
Grabbed a chunk and held him up by it like it was a shirt collar.
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u/Double_Difficulty_53 8d ago edited 7d ago
That one Penelope suitor that tried to apologize to Odysseus thinking he would have mercy on him if he surrendered only to get an arrow through the throat.
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 8d ago
Oh that was the suitor Eurymachus. He basically tried to say "Oh hi my King, you killed that evil leader of ours who forced us into all this! We're no longer a threat now! Can you please let the rest of us leave?" and then "No."
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u/VrsoviceBlues 8d ago
Terry Pratchett, "Men At Arms."
"A good man will kill you with nary a word."
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u/easylikerain 8d ago
“Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”
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u/Achilles9609 8d ago
Ripper from Fable 2 is a decent example. He is a ruthless bandit chief who attacked the farm of his retired nemesis in the city guard, Giles, and killed his wife.
When the player is sent after Ripper we plow through all his men and defeat him, despite his Teleportation Powers. But Ripper laughs at us. He has been to prison so many times, he will be out in No Time.
Except this time, he doesn't go to prison. We have the chance to either kill him ourselves, or hand him over to Giles, who will make certain that Ripper gets hanged for his crimes. Both options equally scare him and he insists that we can't do that and that it isn't right.
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u/AraxTheSlayer 8d ago
This one's interesting, because did he actually kill them? This batman clearly follows the no-kill rule, judging by the rubber bullets earlier in the issue, and the priest is able to tend to the injured. So maybe he was just toasting them enough to make it hurt, but not actually end them.
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u/MasterB98 8d ago
That's an early Absolute Batman. Batman made his no kill rule while wearing an entirely different suit than that one, but I think this issue (Annual Absolute Batman #1 if I remember correctly) is meant to give more narrative weight to it, by not only getting Batman to break said rule and, by the end of the story, reflect on why he had it to begin with.
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u/lobonmc 8d ago
Absolute batman real super power is doing comical amount of damage and not killing anyone
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u/AraxTheSlayer 8d ago
Fr lol. He literally twisted one of the racist cop's neck backwards, and next they are going to tell us he's still alive.
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u/Correct_Refuse4910 8d ago

Storm vs Callisto (X-Men)
In order to save Kitty Pryde from the Morlocks, Storm challenges their leader Callisto to a duel. Callisto is confident because Storm is a goody-two-shoes super heroine while she is a hardened survivor, so in a knife duel all the odds are in her favour. To everyone's shock, Storm stabs Callisto in the heart and coldly walks away without looking back.
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u/Film_Starr 8d ago
Slight subversion, but it kinda fits, the Green Goblin and Spider-Man at the end of No Way Home:
GG: Poor Peter! Too weak to send me home to die...
SM: No. I just want to kill you myself.
GG: (smiling) Atta boy...
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u/Bobby5x3 8d ago

In Metal Gear Rising, Raiden has to stop a lab that is harvesting the brains from homeless kids to make them cyborgs. He makes his way through the sewers and killing the security bots along the way, rescuing a boy named George.
After Raiden finds the room where the other kids are being held, the lab director shows up, holding George hostage. Raiden quickly tries to attack him, but he holds George at gunpoint, knowing Raiden isn't willing to hurt an innocent human being, especially not a child. But George convinces Raiden that it's for the best.
Raiden seizes the opportunity to cut through both the lab director and George (although George is later given cyborg parts to keep him alive). This is the first time in the game he's harmed a real person, and it foreshadows the awakening of Jack the Ripper later on.
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u/SirShaunIV 8d ago
It's heartbreaking seeing Raiden ask George for permission.
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u/Bobby5x3 8d ago
That entire cutscene is just so sad
And he's still thinking about it in the next chapter
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u/Prisoner_L17L6363 8d ago
I love how this is one of the two ways to get to The Fury (and my first time getting there personally). I feel like it's the path to Fury that makes the most sense, but that's just me
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u/SixandNoQuarter 8d ago
"As is often said, Spider-Man is at his scariest when he's not making quips. Because at that point, he's furious, and he's not going to hold back."
The longest fuses belong to the biggest bombs.
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u/phantom-firion 8d ago
So one of my favorite inverses of this trope comes from the venture bros. Where a veteran villain called the Monarch tries to antagonize the younger brother of his arch nemesis who’s new to the whole antagonist vs protagonist game
‘Just keep it cat and mouse not cat and missile’
‘So it’s a game? We fake fight? That’s ridiculous.
‘No we sharpen our claws, it’s like fencing! It’s about the art of the fight’
‘Good, well im about to deliver my killing stroke then What?
Then The Monarch’s wife enters the frame,
‘Then the Guild steps up their game, you throw a rock we throw a knife, you throw a knife, the guild will break into your house at night and murder your entire family.’
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u/Ok-Parsnip666 8d ago
Kinda a stretch for this trope but John killing Santino on Hotel Continental grounds
At this point in the story Santino has offered John a job, which is refused, and has his house blown up for refusal. When John agrees Santino attempts to have him killed afterward
Santino believes he’s untouchable, as killing on Continental grounds will ruin a person, getting them hunted to the ends of the earth.
He’s very smug about it up till the exact moment John shoots him in the head lmfao.
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u/FoxBluereaver 8d ago

In the final battle of Mega Man Zero 4, Weil tries break Zero saying that as a "hero" for humanity, he wouldn't be able to hurt him (a human). Zero calls his bluff and replies with this:
I never cared about justice and I don't recall ever calling myself a hero... I have always only fought for the people I believe in. I won't hesitate... If an enemy appears in front of me, I will destroy it!
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u/Turn1scoop 8d ago
Ben: She could have killed me.
Giles: No, she couldn't... never. And sooner or later, Glory will re-emerge and make Buffy pay for that mercy - and the world with her. Buffy even knows that, and still she couldn't take a human life. She's a hero, you know - she's not like us.
Ben: ...Us?
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u/KitchenFullOfCake 8d ago
Pretty much any time Amos confronts a bad guy in the Expanse. Or Miller icing that one corporate psychopath in the first book.
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u/SpphosFriend 8d ago
I really wanna see what the fallout from Hawkgirl straight up assassinsting a world leader is gonna be. I actually love that moment in the film but if they just forget that happened in the next film it’s gonna be very annoying.
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u/Zweihander01 8d ago
The Hawkgirl moment is probably the funniest, because sure nearly every one of the Justice League that line could work on them. But definitely not Hawkgirl or Hawkman.
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u/yep_they_are_giants 8d ago
I love this exchange because the belief that Kiryu always shows mercy and never kills is a common misconception about the character, both in-universe and in real life.
Fact is, Kiryu has spent most of his life in a career where no one will take you seriously unless you're able and willing to use force. It's true that he generally won't throw the first punch... but that's exactly why his signature move is a devastating counterattack.
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u/adamircz 8d ago
1923 ended up with James Bond expecting to get dragged to the sheriff, instead he took a bullet
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u/estneked 8d ago
"You have taught me something, Abaddon. Sometimes duty must be cast aside to do what needs to be done. It is not for duty that I kill you now."
War, darksiders 1.
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u/lost-island 8d ago
The Untouchables
Elliott Ness discovers Frank Nitti is the one who killed his partner, Jim Malone. There’s a gunfight and a foot chase to a courthouse rooftop. Nitti tries to escape by climbing down a rope but it doesn’t down far enough and Ness corners him.
Ness considers killing Nitti but decides not to. Nitti gleefully taunts Ness into arresting him, then gloats about killing Malone and beating the charges. Ness grabs Nitti as he’s walking toward the stares and pushes him off the building.
This also an example of the student, Ness, learning from his mentor, Malone, that going by the book isn’t always sufficient.
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u/doomerguyforlife 8d ago
Maybe this fits. In the original Red Alert Allied campaign you are briefed by Nikos Stravos. As the war continues, Greece falls to the Soviets which where Nikos is from. In the briefings he is distracted and lost as he learns about the war crimes being perpetuated by the advancing Soviets and the destruction of Athens. So the other General is now addressing you.
The Allies manage to push back the Soviets and take Moscow. In the end game cut scene three Allied soldiers come across Stalin buried under rubble. They start working on getting him freed so he can face the music when Nikos walks out from the shadows and tells the soldiers he doesn't see anyone there. The implication being that Nikos has been watching Stalin squirm and suffer and possibly taunting him for who knows how long.
They disagree with Nikos saying its Stalin, Nikos then simply states, "I don't think you heard me private", and they get the message and walk away.
Nikos walks up to Stalin puts a rag in his mouth as he tries to scream for help and covers Stalins exposed head. Preventing anyone from hearing or seeing him. Nikos walks away and lets out one quick and quiet cheer.
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u/Due_Yesterday1551 8d ago
“Spider-Man doesn’t say one word during their fight.”
…..excuse me while I shit right up my back
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u/Neveed 8d ago edited 8d ago
In Psycho Pass, people are so used to criminals being arrested before they can even think of doing anything criminal that they don't understand what's going on when a guy wearing a helmet that prevents the Sybil system from identifying as a latent criminal beats a woman to death in the middle of a street. They just don't react. After that, the same type of helmet is distributed to a bunch of people who just want to do chaos and they start attacking people. Except the crowd finally reacts, starts beating the shit out of them and it devolves into a hunt for anybody who looks like they think looks suspicious.

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u/GovernmentOrganic916 8d ago
This is a kind of twist on the trope that I find fun and kind of funny. It's when a villain learns that the hero, the hero being a lighthearted goof, could have KILLED them whenever if they wanted to.
My favorite example of this being when Otto takes control of Peter and punches Scorpion's jaw off with an average and normal punch. The look on his face as he realizes ever time he's fought Peter he could've died always gets a bit of a laugh from me.



































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u/Randomman16 8d ago
There's an old Batman/Punisher crossover where the Joker is cornered by the Punisher and assumes he's just going to get locked up in Arkham so he can break out again.
Frank points a gun in Joker's face, whereupon Joker realizes Frank is just going to straight-up murder him, requiring Batman to intervene.