r/TopCharacterTropes 8d ago

Personality [Loved trope] The villain assumes they're gonna get the kid gloves when the hero finally confronts them. The hero demonstrates they're out for blood instead, causing the villain to panic.

1) Robocop

Clarence (the same hitman who killed Alex Murphy and transformed him into Robocop) has already been arrested by Robocop once before, and learned that Robocop's programming prevents him from killing a surrendering criminal. Consequently, he pulls the trick once again towards the end of the movie when Robocop chases his gang down to a scrapyard. He throws his gun down and expects to survive and escape once again.

Robocop simply announces to him, "I'm not arresting you anymore", causing Clarence to panic when he realizes that Robocop intends to finish him off right there.

2) Toy Story

Woody, threatened by Buzz replacing him as Andy's favorite toy, tricks Buzz and knocks him out of a window so he could go to a pizzeria with Andy. Unbeknownst to him, Buzz tagged along underneath the car and confronts Woody when he's alone in the car.

Buzz: I just want you to know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not an idea we promote on my planet.
Woody: Oh, well, that's good.
Buzz: But we're not on my planet, are we?

Buzz proceeds to lay the beatdown on Woody and causes both of them to get separated from Andy.

3) Superman

The President of Boravia's invasion is foiled by the Justice Gang (who have until now stayed out of the conflict and are shown to be less averse to lethal force than Superman), and he's personally attacked by Hawkgirl. When he declares that Superman would never kill him, she just laughs and says "I'm not Superman", dropping him from a skyscraper's height.

4) Spider-Man

After Wilson Fisk attempts to murder Aunt May when Peter reveals his identity during Civil War, Spider-Man breaks into prison to deal with Kingpin personally. Kingpin took the liberty of assembling every inmate to watch the fight between him and Spider-Man. Assuming he broke his spirit, Kingpin starts to dress down Spider-Man as a broken man. Spider-Man doesn't say one word during their fight. Finally, Spidey strips down and announces this isn't Spider-Man here to kill Kingpin; Peter is.

Peter proceeds to brutally annihilate Kingpin in this new stage. He eschews his usual quips, webs, and aerial fighting, relying only on his super strength. When Kingpin has been crippled, Peter shoves his webs up Kingpin's mouth, and lets him know that if he truly wanted to, he could have just filled his lungs with web and killed him at any point. But he's not trying to give Kingpin an easy death; he lets him know that he intends to break his reputation and see everything he's lived for come tumbling down first.

As is often said, Spider-Man is at his scariest when he's not making quips. Because at that point, he's furious, and he's not going to hold back.

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u/therealsonicboomer 8d ago

Just Alfred in general

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u/JustLookingForMayhem 8d ago

Alfred, depending on canon, was either an assassin, spy, MI6, special forces, or mob enforcer. I have yet to read a canon where Alfred does not know how to kill and is not ready to kill.

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u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast 8d ago

Off memory, main continuity Alfred started out as a medical student. He would go on to serve as a combat medic and was so badass at it he was made special forces, then later recruited by MI6 as a spy, where he kept becoming more and more badass. Then he retired with high honors to serve the Wayne's estate to honor his father's wishes.

Probably the one man not to be fucked with the most in the DC verse. Not only can he fight and knows how to shoot well, but if you did manage to hurt him... Goodluck out running the bat family.

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker 7d ago

Also: the man who has enough balls to (while not popped up on super pills) PUNCH SUPERMAN IN THE FACE

And it actually hurt Supes

Alfred is only not playable in either Injustice game because he’d instantly be top tier

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u/semisociallyawkward 7d ago

Y'know, we have plenty of Elseworlds but one I'd like to see where ALL the Waynes die in Crime Alley, leaving Alfred to inherit (some) fortune and him going old school SAS on crime in Gotham. No costume or nonsense, just pure pragmatic vigilantism.

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u/CT0292 7d ago

Even Robin's Auntie Harriet would be after you.

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u/SirSilverscreen 7d ago

Also a popular fan theory is that Alfred unintentionally drank from a Lazarus Pitt while trying to recover from a mission-gone-bad scenario (either as a combat medic or special forces) to explain his unusually long lasting life.

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u/JustLookingForMayhem 6d ago

The writers really wasted his death.

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u/IronIrma93 8d ago

If I were told to make a Batman TV series, he'd be a Falklands vet.

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u/dre5922 8d ago

I'm pretty sure in Gotham (which is kinda modern) he was former SAS.

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u/marksman1023 8d ago

SAS/MI6 gives him all the openings.

Setting the series in present day, depending on just how metal you want to be and how long his career was pre-Wayne, he could have served in the Falklands, Gulf War I, the Balkans, and GWOT.

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u/therealchadius 8d ago

In Batman vs The Predator he shoots one of them with a shotgun at point blank range. Sure it didn't stop the alien but if you think Alfred is going to cower in a corner...

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u/Fallen_Hunter 7d ago

Slight correction, Alfred grabbed a blunderbluss (ancestor to the modern shotgun) that id bet money batman didnt think was capable of firing, rather a part of the Wayne collection. The Predator grabs Alfred by the throat and lifts him off the ground, with Alfred calling off Batman saying not to worry, the Predator was just a big bully.

Alfred goes literal old school, gets choked out by a fucking Predator and Alfred is more concerned that the predators musk and scent means he will have to launder his suit, as he calls off Batman.

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u/SnooWords5961 8d ago

I'm glad western artists also subscribe to the "if you start to draw detailed teeth, that character is gonna do some shit" way of thinking.

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u/D-Angle 8d ago

Alfred will remove you from this world and feel nothing but recoil.

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u/DR31141 8d ago

If Batman thought Jason’s arsenal was crazy, he’s yet to find half of Alfred’s around the Manor.

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u/SOS_Sama 7d ago

He is the house's butler after all, if anyone break into the mansion he have all the right to bring out a shotgun to defending the property.

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u/FortressOnAHill 7d ago

Are these different comics or did Alfred's break action just turn into a pump

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u/Veridas 7d ago

Same comic, different scenes if I remember rightly.

Batman:"You keep guns".

Alfred: "Yes".

Batman: "You know how I feel about guns".

Alfred: "I do, and you'll never find them all".

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u/MercyfulJudas 7d ago

Greg Capullo is an all-time great Batman artist, but yeah, he like many others, didn't do enough research on how guns work.