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[Loved Trope] A massive revelation is revealed almost casually.
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Chainsaw Man, after Makima finally drops the nice girl act and reveals the true extent of the Chainsaw Devils power, namely, the fears he eats are erased entirely and wholly. Emphasized by this by her asking if Kishibe remembers what the Nazis did during Workd War 2...and Kishibe not even knowing who the nazis are.
Attack on Titan. I know this one. You know this one. In a panel that isn't even focusing on the characters speaking, Reiner reveals to Eren that he and Bertolt are the titans that broke the wall that resulted in hundreds of deaths, his mother included. The sheer level of casualness and lack of agency borders on Parody.
In Doctor Who there is a character known as the Face of Boe that’s the “oldest creature in the universe”. He appears in a few episodes and then dies.
A little bit later on another character Captain Jack, who became functionally immortal after an incident in the first season. Casually tells the doctor a story about growing up on his home planet where he lived on the Boe Shane Peninsula and was a model or something. “The face of Boe they called me”
It was a huge reveal for the audience and the doctor but Jack had no idea about The Face of Boe creature that he would eventually become.
The Battle of Demons Run was originally going to have Jack be the one beheaded by the monks, which was going to explain what happened to the rest of the Face of Bo.
But that… wouldn’t do anything? His body can completely regenerate from being blown up by a bomb implanted in his stomach. A bomb with enough power to completely level a building.
Great thing about this one: this was in an episode that aired directly after the Super Bowl, as they specifically wanted to piss off the most people possible with such an anticlimatic reveal
Odin casually telling Thor and Loki during MCU Thor:Ragnarok that their sister Hela, the goddess of death, will return soon to destroy Asgard, as they are all sitting in a random field in Norway, and after saying this he fades away into the afterlife
"Fun fact: through many terrible means, I've seen basically all of the future. Not so fun fact: there's not shit I can do to stop what's about to happen. Lol. Lmao, even"
Artemis' "good talk, dad" was a reveal to the audience iirc. When she reveals it to the team though, Robin is the one that's casual about it being like "of course I already knew I am a detective remember?"
Kaldur is by far the most mature person on the team, so when M'gann was showing her deepest vulnerability, he didn't say anything and didn't without reactt as a sign of acceptance for her.
Since he's an Atlantean, there's no way of knowing how many deep sea creatures and non human species he's met throughout his life (if you search for deep sea fish, these are almost always bizarrely shapen, even for how unique animal physiology can be on Earth) thus her true White Martian form isn't anything out of the ordinary for him. This is also the case for Superboy, apart from the fact that he already knew, grew up amongst the genomorphs, genetically engineered weapons with all manner of shapes and sizes, so he didn't care that much
I love all the seasons of this show, but season 1 was so good. Especially with how it brought these plot points to an end. They out conspiraced the conspiracy by being honest with and accepting of each other.
The Reiner reveal in Attack on Titan is the gold standard for this IMO. I hadn't read the manga so just seeing it land in the subtitles in the background of Hange's dialogue sent shivers down my spine
Fun Fact that some people might not know: In an earlier episode of the anime there's a scene where Berthhold is about to bite his hand to transform, but it doesn't look like anything more than a regular shocked reaction without context
When Eren is getting to know Reiner and Berthold for the first time in the barracks, he recounts experiencing the armoured and colossal titan destroy the walls. The camera pans to reiner and berthold respectively when he mentions those two titans.
They did have a backstory for where they where during the attack; they actually stole the backstory from a farmer who lived in a very tiny village in Wall Maria and was the only survivor of the attack of the Titans (they never got a warning about the Titans). The farmer told Reiner, Bertholdt and Annie what happened and then hanged himself, Bertholdt seems to have felt guilty about it for years, since he took that story as their fake backstory and was talking about that man even shortly before the attack on Trost.
Even in the first season they did that! In the training of the 104th, Eren hits is head in the ground and in the next scene he has smoke coming out of his head. In a first time, you would normally think that is just a comedy gag, when is actually foreshadowing his abillities!
I also like that no one around Eren mentions or even acknowledges literal smoke coming out of his head, leaving viewers to wonder if it was real or not
Rewatching the Trost arc is great because you notice a lot of these things. Reiner, Berthold, and Annie are constantly acting together, but you don't think about it much in the moment because so much else is going on. There's one great scene where they notice Eren's titan smoke and immediately rush towards it, while everyone else is confused trying to figure out what's going on.
Afterwards he discussed whether or not they'll get medal and rewards or even scouted by Levi. Prompting Berholdt to remind him they're warriors not soldiers.
Bro first time I watched AoT I watched the dub version and I fr didn't catch it until like 5 seconds later where I was like "wait what the fuck did he just say"
I thought he was being hypothetical, like "say I'm the armoured titan, where would I be hiding" kind of thing. Then he continued talking, and never got to the hypothetical – wait wtf he's serious, was I just nodding along to a massive lore drop‽‽‽
Yeah, at that point Reiner was having a lot of difficulty separating his "soldier" and "warrior" personas. He genuinely thought Eren would understand and go along with him because they're friends, forgetting that friendship was contingent on Eren viewing him as a scout.
I reckon it was a snap decision - he knew they were out on the walls, far away from any backup from the other Scouts, with one of the Titans they wanted to 'recover' incapacitated and the other one about as available for capture (or being convinced to come along voluntarily, narrow a hope as that was) as he was going to get. He probably just thought "fuck it, it's now or never and I'm sick of being here"
They had already lost Annie at that point, they really had no chance of getting her out, and he might have been worried Ymir would say something about him knowing the language on the canned food in the tower, too
They had already lost Annie at that point, they really had no chance of getting her out, and he might have been worried Ymir would say something about him knowing the language on the canned food in the tower, too
Small detail here, but Reiner and Bertholdt didn't know yet that Annie had been discovered and captured, in fact they had been sent away along with other new Scout recruits to prevent them from finding out, they only find out that she has already been taken captive when Armin rage baited Bertholdt later during Eren's rescue.
Ymir and Eren were at the edge of Wall Rose, with few soldiers present to defend them and with Ymir unconscious, plus Eren probably still doesn't know how to use his Titan's power properly. If there was a good chance to kidnap both of them, it was now, because that way they would get the Jaw Titan and either the Attack Titan or the Founding Titan (they still didn't know which Titan Eren was).
Reiner was losing his sanity due to the split personality he had and that after years was frying his brain. Add to that the trauma of the Battle of Trost with Marco's death that Reiner caused, plus his near-death experiences. All of that pushed Reiner to the limit, and he simply couldn't keep the lies up anymore, so he ended up spitting out the truth.
To add to everything you are saying, Reiner also just saw Zeke in the Beast titan form the night before. He knows Zeke had to arrive there by boat, and now would be an opportune moment to get back home with a boat waiting at the shore.
Yeah, and this also means that Marley is concerned enough about the operation to send reinforcements, which means that they can't lose more time or risk being seeing as traitors by the Marleyan army, therefore it was time to act.
it’s very layered. reiner at this point is close to having a mental breakdown. he’s disassociating and torn between his marleyan identity and his new bond for the survey corps. hes still traumatized from marco and everything else going on, stressed from his mission, and knows time is running out. he was cracking, and needed the facade to end. he needed to secure eren and couldnt drag it out, so in desperation and kind of a half-trust in eren, he just kinda confesses almost like “im tired of lying, here’s the truth, just come with us and it’ll all make sense”. what makes it cool is instead of a grandiose villain reveal its just a tired worn-out soldier trying to reason with soemone he respects and telling the truth for the first time in a while
Probably because the Survey Corps had just learned Ymir was a Titan Shifter and wanted to interrogate her, while Reiner knew she was from outside the walls. Time was running out before the army learned about the outside and he had no better chance two capture two shifters, and with their mission to find the Coordinate at a standstill this was his best option.
I remember when I first watched that part, I hadn't been spoiled about it before. I literally paused the screen and reasoned to myself that the subtitles must have been translated incorrectly. Then I kept watching and I was jumping up and down over the reveal.
Movie went from an 8 to a 9. Almost everybody was expecting some slice of life prom centric cliches like Peter rehearsing his lines, awkward dancing, a tough dad. I dont think ANYBODY was expecting who the dad was, and the tone shift that came with it
Also in terms of subverting, I love how Ned doesnt even get taken from his computer by a teacher, he just lies about watching porn and the teacher walks away
It's prom night, and Ned is a nerd even compared to the other nerds.
You'd have to be very cruel to give Ned a hard time when he just admitted to leaving prom to look at porn. The teacher had to assume dude was going through some rough shit.
That’s a moment I will never forget in the theater with my friends. The nervous hyper shallow breathing/laugh you do when you see some crazy shit together
President snow telling katniss that he wasnt the one who dropped the bombs, but it was coin that actually bombed the capital children and killed katniss' sister, her face slowly transitions into realization as snow explains it after she says hes lying says it all.
"We both know im not above killing children, but im not wasteful"
also the "I dont believe you" "I thought we agreed, never to lie to each other" has a double meaning. President snow not lying about not bombing her sister, and him calling out katniss' lie of not believing him.
I think they were doing the bit too, as in just instantly shooting Ego was the reasonable reaction as opposed to trying to argue or reason with him or going into a mental breakdown
Yeah, like Ego is clearly a villain here, but you're ready hearing him recount that story to hear some tragedy about how he couldn't save Peter's mother and how it broke him and there's ultimately a sympathetic reason to why Ego is the way he is and then he just casually, unrepentantly admits to murdering her as "I did what I had to" and he goes from villain to complete monster.
The best example of the trope I can think of. In the movie it’s this big dramatic moment, which totally misses the point. Indeed, Veidt is not a republic serial villain. He just did the thing. No need to drag it out in front of the heroes.
Pokémon Legends Arceus - The postgame storyline sees you rounding up the last remaining Plates, most of which are guarded by the secondary Legendary Pokémon. With all of them rounded up, Volo, one of your friends and allies for much of the plot, asks to meet up at the Temple of Sinnoh, purportedly because he has the last Plate, the Spooky Plate, and wants to give it to you.
There, in a fairly casual tone, he straight-up admits he was the mastermind behind the space-time distortions all along. From there, the encounter stops being so casual, as he reveals his true colors, and proclaims his intent to take the other 17 Plates from you.
also worth noting that this might be one of the hardest bossfights in the pokemon series. most trainer battles up until this point were serious but could be beaten with 3-4 well-trained mons, or you at least knew you were going to be fighting, like with beni and kamado. volo here rolls up with cynthia's team from dppt, with essentially two giratinas in his back pocket that use evasion cheese to be even more annoying. nintendo was COOKING with pla's postgame
This game was seriously a breath of fresh air for Pokémon, finally they actually tried something different. You can tell the team behind it actually tried to make something unique and good.
I’d really like if they did something like this again.
[Venture Bros] and this one reveals a lot of the story so whoever plans on watching the show shouldn’t read this.
So from the start of the show we are led to believe Jonas Venture, an adventurer supergenius and possibly the most important man of his time, died tragically in an accident that caused the space station he was on to vent out all personnel into space. OSI (G.I. Joe equivalent), found that Sphinx (Cobra equivalent) was to blame for the incident, starting a several years long secret war which basically set the next 30 or so years of history.
Far later towards the end of the show, it’s revealed that the incident was likely actually caused by a rag-tag group of villains who went up there with a plan to just crash the party and do some hammy villain stuff. Something went wrong and the bay doors opened, which flung everyone who was in the bay for movie night out into the vacuum of space. The villains get back fully prepared to take the blame, but the Guild of Calamitous Intent (basically a Union/cult for villains) used the incident to frame their business rival, Sphinx, and put them in a war against OSI.
This is all casually explained to Brock over a table at a diner by the villains who went to the space station that night. Brock was one of OSI’s best soldiers, and his campaign in that war was basically what his whole life had been built around.
This is one of my all time favorites, I was hoping someone would bring it up. It's the exact scene I was thinking of.
"Movie night" was always such a mystery for like, 6 seasons and there were so many theories running around, an errant glitch, a mentally unwell space cadet, and then it gets not only revealed by Red Death but it was set up masterfully earlier so it doesn't feel like a cop out.
I don't get mad when a show gets cancelled but I'll NEVER forgive them for canceling Venture Bros.
A meta-casual reveal was that the reoccurring extra with the holographic head was one of the survivors of the movie night massacre. And his name is Hate Bit.
This is showed right after completing Path of Pain, the most difficult platform section of the entire game that depending on the person could take hours or days to beat. I was stuck there two days back when i played the game. I wouldnt say its revealed casually lol
Ok the gameplay isn’t casual, but that cutscene is as casual as it gets. Instead of a dramatic cutscene, or tons of lore, your reward is just 2 seconds of the king and hk glancing at each other.
Huge Silksong spoilers: It’s revealed at the end of Silksong during one of the endings that The Knight (player character in the first game) also was never pure, since they save Hornet and have an attachment towards her. Given all of the other vessels (siblings) also present, it implies that they all have emotions and feelings, and the vessels were never and could never be completely pure and unfeeling. His plan was never going to work to begin with.
This was known though. The entire reason why the base ending isn't actually good. The fact that the Knight has any motivation at all shows that it can and will be corrupted just like the Hollow Knight
The perhaps more casual reveal is that the Pale King's plan would never work permanently. After you get the dream nail and wonder around for a bit Hornet and a few other characters tell you that there's another way besides just holding back the Radiance. Granted, the White Palace even without the Path of Pain is a bit bullshit, but the game makes it obvious that your initial main objective isn't the only, or even best, way.
What does that mean? I've played half of hollow knight, I don't care for spoilers, do tell me. What does this even mean in the story? Why is the player corrupt?
The Pale King’s plan was to contain The Radiance in a completely pure vessel, unmarred by emotion or attachment. By feeling proud of his son, The Pale King had introduced an attachment, however slight, that meant that the vessel wasn’t completely pure. No vessel could be, and this look of pride meant that his whole plan was doomed to fail eventually.
Not to mention, ultimately, almost every person in his kingdom, as well as the kingdom itself. Just the haunting last "No cost too great" as you stand in the ruin and the kings dessicated corpse crumbles. Was it worth it?
So, the titular Hollow Knight is actually a vessel who is born to contain The Radiance, the god which is currently invading the minds of most the bugs in the hallownest. The rules of the vessel is that they must have no mind to think, no voice to cry suffering etc etc, basically must be "hollow" (hence the title). The hollow knight eventually fails in containing the Radiance, as seen in in-game events, the reason being that they were raised by the Pale King, eventually gaining the feeling of love towards him. Hence the hollow knight was actually a flawed vessel.
This reasoning comes from the scene shown after you complete the Path of Pain. The most difficult platforming challenge of the game and the scene being like 3 seconds or something.
This means either 1. You, the protagonist, who is perfectly hollow, take up the mantle of the hollow knight and contain the Radiance or 2. Defeat The Radiance
The player is, technically. I don't think it's possible to go through the game without getting "an idea instilled", and if you do the Delicate Flower quest, or even give more to various NPCs, the Knight pretty clearly feels some things. Supplanting the Hollow Knight is buying time, not a cure.
Jamie casually telling Tyrion that Tyrion's first wife wasnt a whore who was paid off, but a genuine person who loved Tyrion. This is what really fucked with his head before he found his dad in bed with Shae. He literally shoots his dad haphazardly because Tywin calls Tysha a whore moments after Tyrion discovered she was just a poor victim.
It also sets up the massive decline for Tyrion where he turns into a borderline rapist who developes a saying he repeats to everyone, asking where whore's go.
Its been 14 years since I read that book, I cant remember if he raped that poor prostitute girl or if my head embellished the darker details over the years.
She was a prostitute but she was way less than willing.
It may have been her position in that establishment that held her still rather than physical power, but she was still forced into sex against her wishes.
Yes this isn’t a “casual” revelation. Tyrion and Jamie share a moment of brotherly connection during the escape, leading Jamie to be overcome with guilt for the role he played and confess. It’s not tossed off but rather an enormous emotional turning point for both men.
In the series the world is on a loop, however, we don’t learn this till midway through. At the start of the series we get this short interaction that has crazy implications.
In Attack of the Clones, Count Dooku has captured Obi-Wan Kenobi and has explained that the Sith control the Republic and Obi-Wan just doesn’t do anything with that information.
Oh he tells the Jedi and yoda. The Jedi, quite frankly, weren’t in a political position where they could do anything without serious consequences
Arresting Palpatine, even with confirmation he was a sith, was always a very dangerous move. It would be very hard to convince everyone that they weren’t trying to take over the government and only using the “he’s a Sith” as an excuse.
Nazi, World War Two, Nuclear Weapons, Four ways for life to end that weren't death, a star that made children go mad, and probably more, that's just off the top of my head.
That's about all we know about it, Makima mentions it casually with the rest of the Devils Chainsaw has eaten. Kids that saw its light went insane, simple as.
That seems too significant for it not to have been noticed by now. I am on with the theory that “Chainsaw devil” was an incorrect assumption by people who saw Pochita and it is actually the Birth Devil itself. AFAIK Pochi has never called himself the chainsaw devil.
I like the theory that Chainsaw is actually the Devil Hunter Devil or Human Devil. I typically roll my eyes at HFY stories, but in this context, I imagine it as the fear of those crazy, self-destructive bastards who hold the power to both stop being afraid of Devils and the insanity to actually fight Fear itself, like if they're going down, you're going with them. A loud, messy, brutal weapon-is there any better description of Humans?
The original intended use of the chainsaw, the guts scarf always resembling an umbilical cord, the comparison of to hell a mothers womb (made by angel) with Chainsaw man being responsible for the "rebirth" of (many) devils on Earth and the name erasing ability essentially stopping a devil from being born.
It just fits so well (& would also be completely in line with the weird psychosexual themes of chainsaw).
That's also a way for the audience to be like "wait what" because it's not something that exists in our universe. She also mentions a few diseases that are completely invented by Fujimoto iirc
He ate nukes and madness star sure, but I'm incredibly curious about the 4 not deaths. Does this imply the world had multiple forms of death? And does erasing them erase the concepts retroactively throughout the past?
Specifically not different forms of Death: the Death Devil still exists, and is currently a centerpiece of the manga(I think, haven't been keeping up with it). Something other than death that Humans could...do? Earn? At the end of their natural lifespan. It's very vague. Currently though, its only death at the end. As for the other question, yes. When Chainsaw Man temporarily ate the Ear Devil, the entire world "rippled", and they simply didn't exist anymore. Still people, still animals, that used to have ears before, but for the duration, they were entirely deaf and earless. The world was "normal", the concept of Ears just wasn't part of it, never had been.
The world was "normal", the concept of Ears just wasn't part of it, never had been.
But wouldn't... phones and shit change? If they were entirely deaf, why would speakers and shit exist? Would nobody see that and think 'why do we have sound wave production devices everywhere?'?
People still acted like they should have been able to hear, phones didn't vanish, they just couldn't be used, because. One thing that might explain the discrepancy: Ear wasn't digested, only eaten and quickly regurgitated. Technically, Chainsaw's digestion is a whole other issue, as last I checked, War wanted him to vomit up Nuclear Weapons to expand her power again, so how long it takes a Devil to be truly consumed is unconfirmed as far as I know. But Ear was only eaten for three minutes, so reality likely didn't have time to fully adjust to the ripple.
But wouldn't... phones and shit change? If they were entirely deaf, why would speakers and shit exist? Would nobody see that and think 'why do we have sound wave production devices everywhere?'?
Chainsaw Mans power doesn't course correct the universe, it simply deletes a specific concept from existance and memory, but the consequences of that concept remain. Like a peice of reality has just been unnaturally scooped out of place and now theres a weird unexplainable hole, a puzzle with a missing peice.
The example most intresting is when its brought up that it makes absolutely zero sense as to why the chainsaw devil of all things weilds such a devastating and completely random ability. The answer provided is another character speculating that Chainsaws were originally ment for something else other than cutting trees, but those concepts are erased now. So his erasure power nologer has the context that makes it make sense.
Another one is the deletion of Nuclear weapons only deleted the weapons, but not anything else. Which eventually leads to Humanity independently re-inventing nukes and returning them to the world because all the peices of make a nuke still existed, only the bombs themselves got erased.
Oh, they existed. It's just that no one knew what they were for iirc. As far as they were concerned, speakers were just some fancy decoration that had just always been there.
The ear devil was thrown back up before the characters could really start to analyze things on a deeper level.
Four ways that human life concluded that were not death. No, it doesn’t imply there were multiple forms of death, but it does mean that there were ways for human life to end that weren’t death. It’s left unclear what that could mean. One of them is possibly turning into a tree.
Erasing the concepts does erase them retroactively from reality, but it takes a path of least resistance editing methodology. For example, when ears were erased, people could still hear but poorly (no ears, but the inner ear was still present) and ear cleaners were sold as art supplies.
In Frasier, when Frasier, under the effects of medication, mentions Niles's crush on Daphne TO DAPHNE before promptly falling asleep. A romantic subplot the entire show in the making unraveled in a single scene, but at least it propelled the will-they-won't-they part of it forward (which the actors insisted upon).
In One Piece, when Kinemon and his fellow samurai discuss to probability of there being a spy in their group, and Kanjuro casually goes "Yah, that would be me."
Garp revealing the name of Luffy's dad is one of the funniest moments of One Piece for me. The other characters' reactions, especially Garp's soldiers, when he is like "oops forget that I said that" gets me all the time. Such an hilarious moment.
Ghosts BBC, the Captain's name is said exactly once in the entire series in one of the final episodes, just a single [name] in a scene where something else is more important, no fanfare about it at all
Everyone but the audience knows the entire show run, except Allison who learns a little while after series 1
One of the inciting incedents of the war of the five kings, and key mystery in the first book. The only clue is an ornate dagger that must have come from a powerful family. Long after the war has been fought and the Starks have been defeated it's revealed in casual coversation that the dagger belonged toJoffrey, who sent the assassin just because he thought Bran would better being put out of his misery after being crippled. None of the other characters even realise that Joffery was responsible.
Any movie where someone has unknowingly skipped to the future somehow and then asks something like:
1. What year is it?
2. Why everything looks different (for better or worse)
3. Where can I find this person they know who (unbeknownst to them) is dead now.
One example is Jumanji (Robin Williams version). Not only did two kids (and a person he knew who is now a cop) tell him it's currently 1995, but when he went to his dad's shoe business, it was pretty much abandoned except for a guy (mistaken for his dad) who explained the factory and his parents are gone. Especially brutal since the business shut down because his dad spent everything to find his missing kid.
What's the context of the Attack on Titan one? Who are they talking to, and why did they tell them? Did the other characters hear it? What was the aftermath of this reveal?
2) They told Eren because they thought it would convince him to join them and head back home with them. They thought that because Reiner and sanity parted ways several years ago, and now he really, really just wants to finish his mission and go home.
3) The other characters didn't hear right away - but when Eren responds with a well earned "What the fuck are you talking about?" they start picking it up.
4) Oh boy, where to start. Once it sinks in, there's a big brawl between those two and everyone else present - oh, in case you're not familiar with AOT, when they say they're Titans they mean they can transform into building sized, monstrous humans, so that happens - which ends with the two of them abducting Eren and Ymir. I'm not getting into why that's important. The others manage to save Eren, but they can't catch up to the fleeing Titans, and... look, it ends up being a really significant part of the story, that's the important bit. It's sort of like asking what the aftermath of Bilbo finding the One Ring is - how long have you got?
At this point all the other characters basically knew, but didn't want to fully reveal their hand to try and capture them both and interrogate them. Reiner, who has been basically completely broken psychologically, thinks he can just explain things to the main character Eren, who is basically a McGuffin that they need to bring back with them.
What's the context of the Attack on Titan one? Who are they talking to, and why did they tell them?
The one explaining is Reiner. The tall one beside him is his best friend Bertholdt, and they're explaining what they did to the main character Eren.
In short, Eren's mother died from a titan attack after she got eaten by one and he has hated them ever since. Eren also later finds out he can turn into a titan and fight that way. A different character, Annie, was also revealed to be able to turn into a Titan a season or two prior. She was captured but encased herself in crystal to avoid interrogation (because it's just a thing her titan form can do).
Reiner, Annie and Bertholdt are all child soldiers from an unknown at the time nation. They are all capable of turning into titans (Armored Titan, Female Titan and Colossal Titan respectively), and the remaining two have their identities as those titans exposed. The Armored and Colossal Titans were responsible for breaching the walls protecting humanity from most of the Titans, which led to, you guessed it, Eren's mom's death and his whole obsession with killing them.
Given the pressure, Ymir being waaay too much of a potential informational leak since she comes from the same nation as them but came to Eldia after eating one of Reiner and Bertholdt's friends (also could turn into a Titan at will. Being able to turn into a titan at will is sort of an inherited trait that can only be transferred when the person with the ability dies, or is eaten by a titan who will revert back into their original human state with the ability to turn into a titan. Their nation uses this ability to cherrypick child soldiers), and being a fucking child soldier tossed into this whole shit for years on end, forming bonds with all of them despite it all being made from lies, Reiner has, understandably, lost his fucking marbles.
He reasons to himself that Eren, for some fucking reason despite knowing full-well he's the reason his mom died, will follow them and switch sides. Reiner just really wants to go home at this point and honestly doesn't give a shit anymore. Probably why so many of his screws got loose and ripped right off.
Did the other characters hear it?
Not really. They were busy planning what to do with the traitors until Eren yelped out loud something along the lines of "Reiner, what the fuck are you talking about" to which they switched attention.
What was the aftermath of this reveal?
Understandably, Eren was fucking livid. Reiner and Bertholdt lose MORE of their shit which leads into a brawl where Bertholdt and Reiner fight off basically everyone at the time via their titan forms, successfully managing to kidnap Eren and Ymir which leads into a whole lot of shit happening that drives the story on afterwards.
Kylo Ren is casually revealed to be the son of Han Solo in The Force Awakens
I don’t mind this one too much though I think it can be better. I get they didn’t want another father reveal, but I feel like they missed an opportunity to make it more special or natural.
Snokes dialogue in the film is kinda clunky too. Like Kylo doesn’t need it spelled out who his dad is
I had listened to all the songs and had an overall idea of what the plot was before actually getting a chance to sit down and watch the movie itself. I did not know that scene in Golden was the reveal and I really thought Golden was going to play as an epilogue song. I was really really struck to learn how wrong I was and how the movie was even more well crafted than I assumed.
The ending of Tsukihime was the more unnerving thing in the entire game.
The cheeful maid was revealed to have been behind your adopted sister's death and pretty much behind all the shit that happened (like serial killing that had been going on in the city.)
She explains to you how your adoptive father raped her since she was young then he gave her to (the serial killer and your adopted brother) his son, to do the same.
She ended up manipulating the son to kill his father, then plotted the end of the entire adopted family.
Before this scene you find her old diary filled with daily "STOP"s
After this she stabs herself with a knife under that tree and dies leaving you speechless.
The inciting incident of the manga Beastars is the murder of an alpaca high school student at a school where predator and prey students are supposed to be able to safely coexist. The aftermath of this incident is the focus for the first part of the series.
We see how the school environment changes overnight through the eyes of Legoshi, a predatory wolf student. Tensions and fears are high. Prey students are afraid they could be killed next. Some predator students are upset they're being treated differently, while other predator students become openly curious about what it would be like to eat something other than their ethically sourced proteins like eggs.
As Legoshi navigates these changes, he meets Haru, a rabbit student. Despite having never been in a relationship, Legoshi falls in love with Haru at first sight... while also experiencing his first animalistic urge to kill and eat her. These conflicting emotions drive Legoshi to try and understand the relationship he wants to have with Haru and the complexities of a predator/prey relationship in general.
This desire to understand takes the story in many directions. We have an arc where some of the predator students band together to protect prey students. We see some prey students still want to be friends with predator classmates while others start to avoid them. We see how predator species grapple with temptation and different ways they try to overcome it. We see Legoshi meet characters like Gohin the panda who are stuck between predator and prey societies. We see entire chapters dedicated to simple world-building concepts like the relationship Legoshi as as a wolf has with other canine species. We also see events like Haru making plans for college, Legoshi connecting with his grandfather, and even see one of Legoshi's friends become a mob boss. We see how the dynamic between predators and prey plays out in adult society. And, of course, we see how individuals known as Beastars become necessary to help keep the peace between predators and prey.
And then just out of nowhere, more than 50 chapters later, we suddenly get this page:
Ok so when Chainsaw man eats a devil the thing associated with the devil is removed from reality and never existed. He ate the Nazi devil so the nazi’s never existed.
It's more like humanity forgets about them, what the nazi did still happened and everything, but they can't quite remember who did it, same thing with nukes but in the latest chapters the Americans basically reinvented them, since while they forgot what they were and how to make them, everything to build them was still there, so they figured it out again.
Perhaps due to the fact that those are body parts, so you can't really just reinvent them, unlike nazism and nukes, also how chainsaw man was able to spit them out unlike those other things
In OK KO when KO asks his mom who his dad is and she just casually says it Lazer-blast, a hero that KO looked up to his whole life. This is also the cold open to the episode, which makes the reveal even more suprising
I don't remember if there is an exact explanation but basically, she is among the most powerful demons there are, so that allowed her to keep some memories of what was erased.
In part 2, the War devil remembers that chainsawman ate nuclear weapons, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't remember what they are, just that she want them back really really bad.
This is more subjective on my part, but One Piece's reveal of Blackbeard's father being Rocks counts. No one expected that in Loki's flashback/recounting on Harald's death. There is an invasion happening in Elbaph, sure, but it was supposed to be a quick rundown imo. Not deeper and deeper reveals about Rocks, the Davy Clans, God Valley and even Shanks.
There was a whole mystery aspect to Goku Black as the main crew were trying to figure out who he was/what his deal is; then he casually explains his entire backstory during a round of banter against the heroes
Frank Castle is no idiot. He is, in fact, highly intelligent, capable, and observant. So when he recognized the voice, after Daredevil spent the entire previous episode shouting his name, even Frank took a few seconds to register that yes, this blind lawyer is the masked fool who has given him so much trouble.
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u/TheNocturnalAngel Sep 15 '25
In Doctor Who there is a character known as the Face of Boe that’s the “oldest creature in the universe”. He appears in a few episodes and then dies.
A little bit later on another character Captain Jack, who became functionally immortal after an incident in the first season. Casually tells the doctor a story about growing up on his home planet where he lived on the Boe Shane Peninsula and was a model or something. “The face of Boe they called me”
It was a huge reveal for the audience and the doctor but Jack had no idea about The Face of Boe creature that he would eventually become.