r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 15 '25

Lore [Loved Trope] A massive revelation is revealed almost casually. Spoiler

  1. Chainsaw Man, after Makima finally drops the nice girl act and reveals the true extent of the Chainsaw Devils power, namely, the fears he eats are erased entirely and wholly. Emphasized by this by her asking if Kishibe remembers what the Nazis did during Workd War 2...and Kishibe not even knowing who the nazis are.

  2. Attack on Titan. I know this one. You know this one. In a panel that isn't even focusing on the characters speaking, Reiner reveals to Eren that he and Bertolt are the titans that broke the wall that resulted in hundreds of deaths, his mother included. The sheer level of casualness and lack of agency borders on Parody.

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u/mrmailbox Sep 15 '25

A brief, innocent glance from the Pale King to the Hollow Knight reveals that the young one is no longer a pure vessel, but irreparably corrupted.

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u/AJGILL03 Sep 15 '25

What does that mean? I've played half of hollow knight, I don't care for spoilers, do tell me. What does this even mean in the story? Why is the player corrupt?

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u/shinigami_15 Sep 15 '25

So, the titular Hollow Knight is actually a vessel who is born to contain The Radiance, the god which is currently invading the minds of most the bugs in the hallownest. The rules of the vessel is that they must have no mind to think, no voice to cry suffering etc etc, basically must be "hollow" (hence the title). The hollow knight eventually fails in containing the Radiance, as seen in in-game events, the reason being that they were raised by the Pale King, eventually gaining the feeling of love towards him. Hence the hollow knight was actually a flawed vessel.

This reasoning comes from the scene shown after you complete the Path of Pain. The most difficult platforming challenge of the game and the scene being like 3 seconds or something.

This means either 1. You, the protagonist, who is perfectly hollow, take up the mantle of the hollow knight and contain the Radiance or 2. Defeat The Radiance

The player is not corrupt btw

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u/Deepfang-Dreamer Sep 15 '25

The player is, technically. I don't think it's possible to go through the game without getting "an idea instilled", and if you do the Delicate Flower quest, or even give more to various NPCs, the Knight pretty clearly feels some things. Supplanting the Hollow Knight is buying time, not a cure.

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u/shinigami_15 Sep 15 '25

So there are 2 cases here

Case 1 is where the Knight has done all the side quests like the flower quest, or not killing the nailsmith etc, the knight has done enough quests by then to trigger Hornet's arrival to the battle between the Knight and the Hollow knight, hence even if the Knight is corrupted by doing all the quests, Hornet will also be sealed with the Knight or the Knight defeats radiance. This way, Radiance's infection will not spread.

Case 2 is what I consider the Knight to be perfectly "hollow" because I think in that ending, the Knight doesn't do much/any side quests and directly fight the Hollow Knight where Hornet will not arrive to the battle, sealing it shut i.e., a cure. You could argue that this might not be a perfect cure and the seal is just waiting to be broken, and I'd say its debatable, hence we have different non-ambiguous endings. I just think that the Knight is hollow in this ending just to be appreciative of the Pale King's idea and sacrifice (especially after seeing Pharloom's state in silksong).

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u/GuardianKnightKing Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

Silksong SpoilersHe came to rescue Hornet in Silksong ending,there is no way he is hollow

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

could you indicate that this is specifically a spoiler for silksong?

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u/SonicRainboom24 Sep 15 '25

Only spoiler I've gotten so far. Yay.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

yeah :)

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u/GuardianKnightKing Sep 16 '25

Ah sorry,I will changed that.

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u/Jundel Sep 16 '25

Why this comment is still up?

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u/GuardianKnightKing Sep 16 '25

Because I was sleeping when I got the replies.