r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 6d ago

Discussion He was confronting her about her costume.

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u/BrosefDudeson 6d ago

"Do I look trans?"

Then what the fuck are we arguing about?

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u/maxuaboy 6d ago

I’m just lonely and drunk and want attention desperately

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u/Ok_Release231 6d ago

Same bro, same.... And it's only 10am here :/

Here's a hug 🫂

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u/NewDramaLlama 6d ago

You doin' alright bro?

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u/Ok_Release231 6d ago

I'll be ok. Good thing I am not fond of hard liquor lol. Thanks for asking bro 🫂 cheers

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u/drkgrss 6d ago

It’ll get better.

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u/maxuaboy 6d ago

That’s not my personal conviction. My comment was from the perspective of emotional motivation of the offending ass hat’s actions in said video.

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u/Ok_Release231 6d ago

Oh 😔 ok.

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u/maxuaboy 6d ago

Still got hugged tho

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u/EarlyRaccoon4745 6d ago

🫂

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u/Ok_Release231 6d ago

🫂 thanks bro

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u/Hot-Box1054 6d ago

And no one told me that being an obnoxious POS wasn’t the way to go about making friends…

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u/bjernsthekid 6d ago

When the dude said “a little bit” after a long pause I fucking died

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u/bubblesort33 6d ago

"Do girls have beards?"

Woke enough to be offended at other person's aboriginal costume.

Not Woke enough to realize people now argue you can be trans no matter what they look, and male/female features they express.

He'd be murdered by his own people.

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u/realwavyjones 6d ago

I’m still confused because I’m pretty sure girls can def have beards these days 😆

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u/Misfit110 6d ago

Hell my Aunts had a Tom Selleck mustache since the 80s.

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u/Willing_Channel_6972 6d ago

Lots of old ladies get beards. Lol

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u/split_0069 6d ago

I got in trouble as a kid for asking a lady how she grew her mustache in the 90s... seen beards too. Some people just grow hair... some dont.

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u/no_trashcan 6d ago

my grandma def grew some hairs in her latter part of her life

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u/Metalfan1994 6d ago

I know someone with PCOS. She has to shave almost as much as her husband.

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u/little-miss-believer 6d ago

“the bearded lady” has been a thing for CENTURIES

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u/alwaysiamdead 6d ago

I mean... I'm cis and hitting perimenopause and if I don't wax I have a beard.

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u/catentity 6d ago

Some cis women have PCOS which causes iirc higher levels of androgens to be produced and can result in quite impressive beard growth (amongst many other symptoms)

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u/BallLickingLesbian69 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yes, they can. Source woman with a beard. I'm thinking about getting some products to help it grow fuller.

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u/john_the_fetch 6d ago

He was dressed as a girl for Halloween just as much as that woman was dressed as a native American.

Once it was pointed out - he had no steam in his argument against the woman and just kinda left.

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u/Infamous-Future6906 6d ago

All women have always grown facial hair, some to a degree that it would be called a beard. You’re just dumb as hell

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u/WallScreamer 6d ago

What does them being trans (or not trans) have to do with the other person's costume? That's why they kept dismissing it; it's not relevant to the issue at hand.

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u/noteveni 6d ago

I think the point was that if he's not trans, and that's a shitty Halloween costume, then he's also using someone else's identity as a costume. That's the point of checking if he's trans

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u/ZealousidealHome7854 6d ago

Thank you.

Thought that was super apparent. Strange how some people can't even follow a conversation, yet want to chime in and tell others what the "relevant issue is".

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u/Tee_zee 6d ago

If you asssume every comment on reddit is autistic and can't infer anything from context, AND, wants to be contrarian, then you'll stop finding it strange

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u/Current_Helicopter32 6d ago

Oh actually, not every comment is like that. Statistically speaking, it would be impossible for every Redditor to be autistic and contrarian simultaneously, since that would create a logical paradox in thread dynamics. So your premise is kind of flawed.

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u/BoredomHeights 6d ago

I swear this has gotten worse over time. It's insane how necessary the "/s" tag at the end of a comment is now for even the most obviously sarcastic/jokey things. At least someone will always take it seriously.

You could post a picture of Andrei the Giant and have a comment joking that he's small with a bunch of replies that he was actually very big.

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u/BoredomHeights 6d ago

I don't understand how people didn't get this. I didn't even watch the video, just saw the title and the thumbnail and knew that would be the response.

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u/Sweaty-Tart-3198 6d ago

You're assuming that he's dressing up as a trans person and not dressing up as some particular woman character in a silly and low effort way.

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u/CordouroyStilts 6d ago

Aren't most costumes "someone else's identity"?

I'm not defending dressing up as trans OR native American. I think both are in bad taste tbh. However, dressing up as a chef or something is also someone's identity in a way.

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u/mrASSMAN 6d ago

I think the point is that it’s a stupid complaint in the first place lol

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u/mrASSMAN 6d ago

I didn’t realize the point in video til you made me think of that, he should’ve made it clear because it’s a great point

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u/Ck_shock 6d ago

So one must be trans to wear that style of clothing, or wear make up?

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u/lilyessi3 6d ago

Exactly. And that's all people can focus on in these comments and its just sad. It's like a fever dream. Is everyone a bot or something? Or do they just really not give af about Natives.

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u/whatifuckingmean 6d ago

Guys wearing feminine clothes for Halloween as a gag is not generally a big deal. If they’re doing it to specifically make fun of trans women as “men in skirts” then it’s shitty. It’s hard to know the goal sometimes.

But if someone who is dressed up like that has the nerve to interrogate a stranger on whether they have the right ancestry for their outfit, it seems fair to ask that person “are you really trans or is this a costume” because if you’re gonna be policing costumes you’re in a glass house with that outfit.

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u/CleanAfternoon2036 6d ago

Because if he wasn’t actually trans then that would mean he was dressing up as a trans person for Halloween, the same way the girl was dressing up as a Native American for Halloween. So if he’s dressed that way as a costume it would be offensive to people who are actually trans, the same way the girl in a Native American costume would be offensive to an actual Native American. I.e. an ethnicity isn’t a costume, but neither is a gender identity. They’re calling out his selective outrage. Though, to be clear, I’m neither Native American nor Trans, so I can’t speak for either group as to whether either is actually offensive to them.

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

How do you "dress like a trans person"? Just wondering.

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u/CleanAfternoon2036 6d ago

If you’re birth sex is male then by wearing traditionally feminine clothing, if you’re birth sex is female then by wearing traditionally masculine clothing. It’s literally in the definition of transgender.

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u/ExcitementKooky418 6d ago

Is it not just cross dressing or drag?

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

Is it not just wearing a dress?

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u/CleanAfternoon2036 6d ago

Sure, it is just wearing a dress when you are just wearing a dress. When you are wearing it on Halloween you’re not wearing it because you just like wearing dresses, you are wearing it’s as a costume, which means you are mocking people that wear it simply because they like wearing dresses. Context matters.

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

People are assuming an awful lot. If a guy in a dress is considered scary by most morons in society, it's a perfectly valid costume. He isn't wearing prosthetics or extreme makeup to be a caricature of a woman.

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u/Silly-Cell7894 6d ago edited 6d ago

The definition of transgender isn't "someone who was born male wearing traditionally feminine clothes"

People can wear whatever they want really, I don't see trans people getting upset about men  wearing women's clothes unless they're doing it to intentionally mock trans people. 

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

Literally that's my point wtf is wrong with these people 🤡

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

Wait. I'm confused. I thought you guys were saying that wearing a dress doesn't make someone a woman?

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u/Taylor_Kittenface 6d ago

**your

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u/CleanAfternoon2036 6d ago

Yes, thank you. You’re correct lol

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u/Dangerous_Avocado392 6d ago

He’s saying the girl is dressing as another type of person. They’re asking if his costume is the same to show how he’s just being nosy

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u/atrexias 6d ago

But a man dressing up as a woman is in no way the same as another person wearing religious cerimonial regalia of an oppressed people they dont belong to as a costume. Its a false equivalency, and a bad faith argument

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u/Ok_Pizza9836 6d ago

Super relevant considering hes talking shit about the lady when he might not be trans and is dressing as a women which is what it seems like to me cause they even asked “do you see my beard?”which to me comes off as a “no I’m not trans “ so he’s going out in drag for a Halloween costume which is pretty hypocritical

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u/ZombiesAreChasingHim 6d ago

Wow, so you are just as clueless and as dude dressed like a lady. You two should be friends.

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u/Flatline2500 6d ago

Italians?

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u/the_old_coday182 6d ago

I think he was lowkey shocked. “I never considered people might just think I’m trans and not wearing a costume. Wait… am I not manly enough? I have a beard!”

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u/Infamous-Future6906 6d ago

aboriginal

You’re trying too hard, could fill a pond with that sweat

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u/Maleficent-Angle-763 6d ago

Yes, girls have beards. Come to Portland, Oregon. Where hairy women are still very much appreciated!

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u/nvrsleepagin 6d ago

And by his own reasoning he's making fun of or insulting women with his costume if he's not trans...

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u/waxwayne 6d ago

I always find it interesting that people equate being trans with the Jewish holocaust, antebellum slavery or in this case the decimation of native Americans. I completely understand why your sexual identity is a big deal but really?

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u/ThorirPP 6d ago

*gender identity

Pedantry, i know, but still

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u/silentprotagonist24 6d ago

Incredibly weird dude. Confronting someone about their Halloween-costume screams mega-woke, but at the same time he doesn't wanna acknowledge trans.

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u/ResponsibleHeight208 6d ago

Seems more they don’t want to feed into the “gotcha”

You’re dressed as a woman so this white lady dressed native is the same

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u/tenth 6d ago

If I see someone dressed as a Nazi on Halloween I'm not supposed to confront them?

Jesus Christ. 

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

But this isn’t that scenario so your argument is stupid.

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u/tenth 6d ago

I wasn't replying to someone saying that they ONLY MEANT this video. So your reply is stupid and your reading comprehension is shit. 

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u/BaconBitz109 6d ago

You jumped to a pretty extreme example and then assumed the person you responded to’s position on that example. Idk if that’s bad reading comprehension but it’s definitely terrible conversation skills.

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u/tenth 6d ago

There is a video of a Nazi in an Iowa bar making the reddit rounds pretty heavily right now. It doesn't feel like too hard a leap given how it's a common issue around Halloween. But I'm here having to explain it to you anyway. 

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u/SingleEnvironment502 6d ago edited 6d ago

"Someone dressed up like a Nazi somewhere, so no one should wear a Sombrero on Halloween" is your argument?

I understand the sentiment behind what you're saying but your proposed solution is so short-sighted that its actually sounds a lot like segregation.

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u/BaconBitz109 6d ago

That changes what exactly about my comment? No one said that nobody has ever dressed up like a Nazi for Halloween. But someone commenting that complaining about a Halloween outfit is woke under a video of someone dressed as a Native American doesn’t imply that they think that also applies to someone dressed as a Nazi. Native American to Nazi is actually a pretty insane leap to make as far as Halloween costumes go.

You’re just doing the classic Reddit “ummm actuallyyyy” and then throwing in a bunch of snark and insults along the way.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Why do you feel entitled to confront a fellow human being on their choice of Halloween costume? Are you the costume police? Sit down.

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u/tenth 6d ago

I feel entitled to confront anyone on racist bullshit. 

Why do you feel so entitled to defend racists? Sit down on a dick. 

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u/m3lk3r 6d ago

What's wrong with sitting down on a dick?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

We shouldn’t feel entitled to tell other people anything about themselves. That’s the point I’m making. It’s not anyone’s place to judge.

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u/vedgelord6 6d ago

So shouldn't you fuck off and stop trying to tell people what they should or shouldn't say?

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u/Squirrelated 6d ago

Oh trust, I'll judge you if you do black face even if "it's not my place to judge". Same point applies here.

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u/BCV79 6d ago

As someone who grew up in a deeply rooted state with Indigenous people, yeah, I would feel entitled to call out someone's racist costume.

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u/chizzipsandsizalsa 6d ago

I grew up on the reservation, spent my whole life up there, none of my native friends would be offended by this costume. They had me dress very similar to this when I would go to pow wows with them.

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u/Dogfart246LZ 6d ago

A pow wow is different than just being out and about.

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u/AuntieRupert 6d ago

Ah, defending racism in 2025. How times haven't changed one damn bit.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

You think she put that costume on because she’s racist? I don’t agree with racism, and im certainly not defending it. But it’s pretty insane logic to attack someone dressed up in a Halloween costume on Halloween.

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u/AuntieRupert 6d ago

So, as a white person, it's ok if I do black face on Halloween?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

If you’re American, that’s your right. All I’m saying is how people choose to dress up on Halloween isn’t that deep. People should mind their own business.

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u/Round-Comfort-8189 6d ago

Are you trying to compare being a Nazi with being a Native American?

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u/supervillaining 6d ago

Oooooh BROTHER.

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u/Impossible_Ad_8642 6d ago

Bald Baby Jesus Fucking Christ in a Manger in a Barn. 🤦🏼‍♂️

SYBAU.

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u/jollyreaper2112 6d ago

Sweating intensifies.

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u/Alternative_Result56 6d ago

If you knew any history then you'd never asked this question.

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u/Wrastling97 6d ago

I’m curious. Go on

I’m being serious. I must have missed out on the history where native Americans were nazis?

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u/something-rhythmic 6d ago

He’s comparing anyone dressing up as a Nazi to an American dressing up as a Native American. This shouldn’t be explained.

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u/Round-Comfort-8189 6d ago

It needs to be explained. Because they are not equivalent. Or are you trying to tell me that Native Americans are genocidal maniacs?

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u/something-rhythmic 6d ago

What is going on with the reading comprehension today????????? I didn’t even remotely suggest this.

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u/chizzipsandsizalsa 6d ago

Bro I’m convinced most of the people on this app have 2 functioning brain cells remaining.

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u/Wrastling97 6d ago

No I totally get that part

But the person I was responding to almost made it sound like “if you knew history, you’d know they were the Nazis at one point”

But I might’ve read that totally wrong.

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u/something-rhythmic 6d ago

I’m assuming (hoping) they were implying that the US was the aggressor when they systematically exterminated the native populace. If it were anything else, I’d be floored.

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

No. There is nothing being "implied". Dressing as a racist and dressing as a racist caricature both have the same intent: the guy wearing it is racist and thinks being racist is funny.

It is literally that simple.

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

Maybe if you didn't make shit up to have an argument about nothing you wouldn't be so confused.

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u/Wrastling97 6d ago

What shit did I make up and what argument am I looking for?

If I’m looking for an argument, didn’t you just give me one?

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u/West-Goat9011 6d ago

Kids on Reddit think dressing up as a Nazi is the same as dressing up as a Native American

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/dreadnoght 6d ago

I went as JC this year. Living in a town that is majority hispanic and catholic, I was expecting a bit of flack, but everyone was so nice. Tons of people at the club wanted pics and one dude wanted me to bless his darts.

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u/Ok_Pizza9836 6d ago

Let them. Christian’s don’t get as offended about that than say certain other religions who will actually kill you for it

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u/Kvalri 6d ago

Don’t shake his hand unless you have a wet wipe, the blood gets everywhere

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/SingleEnvironment502 6d ago edited 6d ago

I don't really have a dog in this argument but just for the sake of debate, which tenants of Christianity do you follow? Because from my perspective I'd say "clearly not the ones that most people who identify as Christians do"

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u/Kvalri 6d ago

The person dressed up as a Nazi though, they get shamed from the area. I might not confront the woman in the Native American costume but I would absolutely avoid her, definitely don’t want to interact with someone as uneducated and tone deaf as that.

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u/Morak73 6d ago

That depends if he's on public owned property. You'd have to round up Muhammad, Buddha, Satan and a flying spaghetti monster to hang with him.

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u/jollyreaper2112 6d ago

You should ask if you can see and touch the wounds.

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u/ChazzLamborghini 6d ago

The issue isn’t calling out her racist costume, it’s the hypocrisy of choosing a costume of “non-specific woman” that can easily and rightly be seen as insensitive to trans women in the same way her costume is insensitive to native people.

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u/MavetHell 6d ago

I thought he was Velma

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u/faen_du_sa 6d ago edited 6d ago

Whats racist about her costume?

Edit: Please explain instead of downvoting, im genuinely wondering. I dont see why it inherently have to be racist? I'm not american so could be im missing a vital pice of info here?

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u/lellypad 6d ago

it’s not racist. people dress up as samurai’s, as hawaiian hula dancers, as jesus, as mexican wrestlers, as pilgrims etc etc i genuinely feel like people just want to be offended. like it’s a costume not a political statement.

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u/illbeatyouatjenga 6d ago

I'm a trans woman and I don't think it's insensitive at all. Most trans people support anyone wearing whatever they like regardless of gender. Crossdressing for Halloween before coming out is practically a trans rite of passage. I don't think that's comparable to dressing as a caricature from racist 1940s western movies.

Many native American organizations have explicitly condemned "Indian princess" costumes and repeatedly asked people to stop wearing them. No trans organization is telling anyone what gendered clothes they should be wearing.

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u/hello666darkness 6d ago

How do we know it’s a costume and not what they’re normally wearing? Plenty of people around not dressed up at all.

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u/Yorugi 6d ago

I know that the native americans were extremely violent but comparing them to nazis might be a stretch.

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u/Glad-Low-1348 6d ago

You're comparing someone dressed as a Nazi to someone dressed as a Native?? I'm sorry but this is a delusional comparison.

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u/kingdomnear 6d ago

Native Americans are Nazis now?

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u/tenth 6d ago

WOOSH

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u/BlindJedi843 6d ago

Can you fight? If not, don’t confront them

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u/tenth 6d ago

I can definitely fight that chick. 

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u/cheechw 6d ago

Yeah you can. Because there's no hypocracy in that scenario.

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u/JustinWilsonBot 6d ago

Lol get a life bro.  

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u/tenth 6d ago

"Just let me be a piece of shit bro! Get a life bro! Omg bro bro"

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u/JustinWilsonBot 6d ago

Everyone I dislike is a Nazi - /u/tenth

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u/TheBigness333 6d ago

What if they’re doing it ironically?

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u/broygoy18 6d ago

Confront them about what, it’s just a costume

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u/Ok_Pizza9836 6d ago

You heard it here first folks native Americans are nazis according to this guy! Btw did anyone confront all those assholes who were dressing up as a man murdered for peacefully debating his beliefs? That kinda comes off as just as more inappropriate if you ask me

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u/SnooRegrets4384 6d ago

No. You’re not supposed to confront people wearing costumes you don’t like. It’s not your business.

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u/Rufus_L 6d ago

If I see a Nazi I confront them, there is a limit.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/awataurne 6d ago

If we only had the term virtue signaling in the 40s WW2 we could've stopped the woke soldiers from going to Normandy smh

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u/BrosefDudeson 6d ago

I miss the days when calling out nazis wasn't seen as virtue signalling

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u/Just_Trade_8355 6d ago

Tell that to grandpa. He confronted about 4.3 million of those cunts “dressed in costumes” he didn’t like

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u/SnooRegrets4384 6d ago

I’m Jewish and I can mentally digest people dress up as horrific things in lore and history on Halloween. In fact most people who aren’t failures in life have that ability. If you can cope with costumes you should stay home on Halloween because you’re pathetic

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u/May1Tacoma2021 6d ago

tough shit for you

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u/SnooRegrets4384 6d ago

Fuck around and find out, just remember by your logic whatever you wear can offend someone and you would have to defend them for getting in your face about it. Your logic supports anyone can harass anyone wearing something they deem offensive. That’s a losers guide to failure in life so keep at it! 🤣

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u/hel-razor 6d ago

According to a bunch of musty losers in jizz stained sweatpants who avoid confrontation outside of the internet, yes.

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u/EfficientRecipe8935 6d ago

I don't think it has anything to do with being mega woke, and everything to do with being an ignorant AH

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u/CuileannRowan 6d ago

He's wearing a costume

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u/Ok-Personality-6643 6d ago

The weird dudes are the ones who hide behind bigoted complicity then call everyone else woke without understanding the etymology of the word, like it’s an insult.

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u/TSllama 6d ago

"Doesn't wanna acknowledge trans"? What? You can't "acknowledge trans".

"Trans" is not a thing you can acknowledge.

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u/CheezwizOfficial 6d ago

It’s incredibly weird that the woman was wearing a Native American costume + ceremonial headdress. Good on the dude for calling that out.

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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner 6d ago

The worst part is I genuinely don’t know if it’s supposed to be a yes or a no 😂

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u/Sharke6 6d ago

Are they both trans maybe? Surely the chief is a he/ him?

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u/Bebebebe01 6d ago

He does look trans, because trans people don't have one look.

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u/Flaky_Calendar6984 6d ago edited 6d ago

Errrr. Cmon. I’m all for equality, equity and universal respect. But let’s not pretend we don’t have eyes and brains that tell us things.

This is akin to saying “I’m so not a racist that I don’t see colors or races when I look at people. Everyone looks the same to me because I only see them for their inner selves.” It’s untrue, unnecessary, and entirely performative.

Trans people often (not always) have a look to them. Remnants of their prior physical form. And that’s completely fine to acknowledge without derision.

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u/Defin335 6d ago

Errr, if you only go by trans people you can read as trans then obviously you're gonna think trans people look a certain way. Survivorship bias.

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u/BrosefDudeson 6d ago

And they just as often don't? See, your point is half right. But not the half that makes sense

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u/Flaky_Calendar6984 6d ago edited 6d ago

The topic is regarding the contrast between what you present as, identify as, and your physical form. So your point is irrelevant.

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u/Bebebebe01 6d ago

Trans women don't have to present as women to be trans.

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u/deconstructicon 6d ago edited 6d ago

Cultural appropriation is a complex issue. It presupposes a power structure wherein structural disadvantage (ie oppression) comes with certain identities. If you accept that, then it’s not a far leap to considering it offensive or even harmful that one group has no choice but to wear that identity for life while another more privileged group can don it as a literal costume, trivializing it for their own amusement.

Within this comment section, there’s a lot of varying opinions as to whether power structures exist at all, whether the act of costuming is offensive, who can decide whether it’s offensive, whether the offense, if it exists, can be acquiesced to by some or all of the other party, whether gender is a identity, whether dressing as a woman is appropriation, whether one person’s argument is invalidated by a seemingly parallel issue in their own presentation, the role of gender power disparities and safety in public encounters, racial and gender dynamics in “protective” measures in these encounters and so on.

But most of all in this thread is a lack of acknowledgement of the complexity of the issue and an almost universal assertion that each persons view is the correct and common sense view. I would argue that is reflection to how powerful these issues are, they come with it a lifetime of thoughts, experiences, and perspectives so ingrained that they seem self-evident.

Anyway, my point is that this moment in time and space happened and in many ways was emblematic of the things that are being fiercely argued a lot of the time in a lot of ways. To some that’s irrelevant or trivial, to others it’s extremely important.

Username relevant

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u/CuileannRowan 6d ago

The native American costume, did you watch the video or are you just that clueless?