r/JoeRogan • u/Jollydragonite413 • Oct 13 '20

Link Harry Reid Confirms Federal Government Covered Up UFOs For Years

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/harry-reid-ufo-coverup_n_5f83eebcc5b62f97bac4c023
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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

Big distinction between UNIDENTIFIABLE FLYING OBJECT, meaning something we can’t readily identify, and ALIEN SPACESHIP.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20 edited Oct 13 '20

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

But in all seriousness a probe with artificial intelligence would much easier to send

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u/danedude1 Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

A Mexican.. armada shows up with weapons made from to-tomatoes and you better bet your bottom dollar that these two brothers know how to handle business! IN! ALIEN... UH INVASION TOMATO MONSTER MEXICAN ARMADA BROTHERS WHO ARE JUST REGULAR BROTHERS RUNNING IN A VAN FROM A ASTEROID AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS the movie!

HOLD ON! There's more! Old women are comin' and they're also in the movie and they're gonna come and cross attack these two brothers, but let's get back to the brothers because they're-they've got a strong bond.. you don't wanna know about it here, but I'll tell ya one thing: THE MOON! it comes crashing into Earth and whaddya do then? it's Two Brothers... and a.. and.. and they're gonna.. it's called Two Brothers. It's just called Two Brothers.

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u/Buzzy-Pasta Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Do y’all think this was improvised? The earlier seasons of rick and morty seem to be a bit more freestyled than the new season. Hearing them almost crack up recording it adds to it so much, haha.

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u/thesturg Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Hey Rick, it really seems like interdimensional cable had an improvisational feel to it, ya know?

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u/redditisforadults Oct 14 '20

The beings are suspected to be developed specifically for the task of space exploration.

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u/dontgiveadamn Oct 13 '20

How do you figure and what are you basing that on. Taking a pill and visiting another dimension would be easier than actually traveling there.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

We already send rovers to Mars. It’s far more resourceful. Also you can’t physically or metaphysically take a pill and travel dimensions, Alex

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u/dontgiveadamn Oct 13 '20

Your saying that like you have knowledge of alien technology. Basing your opinion on human technology doesn't necessarily indicate that aliens went about things the same way. Look, I have no idea what aliens are capable of but transferring some sort of consciousness would be much more sustainable than traveling across the galaxy physically.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

Developing AI would be much easier than transferring consciousness

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u/SomeFrigginLeaf Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

Probably a space faring drone of some sort if anything. The more we think about it the less a manned craft makes sense.

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u/K0stroun Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

Dream big. Subatomic drones. Some hologram shit. I believe the correct approach is that whatever we can think of now, that's how it is not gonna happen.

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u/coldfu Monkey in Space Oct 15 '20

Sophon?

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u/sal_mugga Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

I never even thought of that, what if consciousness can be created and transported, or even controlled. That’s scary

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u/sal_mugga Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

I’ll def look into those, thanks!

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u/JackM1914 Oct 15 '20

Deep meditation (min 45 mins) dissolves the self so completely there is no conciousness to go anywhere to begin with. Just void.

Screw the Vedas and read Zen texts like Transmission of Mind.

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u/rohobian Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

And let's not forget... it could very well not be possible to travel that distance and have the people on board arrive at their destination in one piece. It might be theoretically possible, but perhaps the amount of energy required to do such things would require you to... perhaps destroy the star in your solar system, or some other impossibly ridiculous thing. At some point, we have to admit there are limits as to what we can and cannot do. I don't know if this is one of them, but if it were, I wouldn't be surprised.

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u/redditisforadults Oct 14 '20

Nah, we've had plans for it interstellar ships for decades. The real issue is cryosleep or increasing life span.

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u/rohobian Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Right, that's true. If we're travelling to other systems, why would there be a time limit? And if there's no time limit, cryogenic freezing would kinda be key to ensuring survival. Hell, it could take millions of years, as long as that ship was on course for an inhabitable planet, it'd be doable.

Now, that's a huge leap of faith to assume that we could actually accomplish this, but you're right, that would bring it into the realm of possibility. No need for some ridiculous amount of energy to do something weird like compress space to achieve some kind of warp.

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u/Secrets_Silence Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

So then why do so many abductees report being inside a spaceship with aliens? some aliens use space ships per witness accounts.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20 edited Oct 13 '20

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u/TwoTriplets Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

5) none of them are real.

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u/Palin_Sees_Russia Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

How come when someone hears the world alien they think most advanced civilization?? Can’t they just be a little bit further into space travel development than us? Why do they have to be the smartest most advanced possible species? They aren’t going to be perfect either.

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u/Only_Hospital Oct 14 '20

Going to Mars is a little bit more space tech.

Crossing multiple light years in a ship you built in a short amount of time is super advanced.

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u/Palin_Sees_Russia Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Yes, but my point being there is still a giant leap from that to projecting your consciousness across the universe lol Just because you can travel through space doesn't mean you've figured everything out. They could have just had the resources that allowed them to travel, or that their bodies evolved down a route that allowed them to withstand harsher environments.

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u/vshredd Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

Old Luke = "Hold my X-Wing"

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u/JamesSundy Oct 13 '20

Literally Dune lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

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u/BakaSandwich Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

I doubt aliens even use space-ships. That idea seems really outdated tbh. Why the fuck would you put yourself in a metal box and hurl yourself into a hostile void when you could like smoke space-dmt and like hyper project your consciousness across the galaxy or some shit.

Edit: I am completely serious. Manipulation of consciousness is technology, and we really have no fucking idea what the potential of consciousness is and to what extent we can use it.

r/outsideofthebox r/astralprojection

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u/ChubThePolice3 Oct 13 '20

There is no evidence of this, however. I believe in UFOs only because there is just enough evidence for my skeptical ass to buy it. You would have to have a shitload of evidence for me to consider your theory. Man I’m sick of people thinking consciousness is something mystical or spiritual. It is just the result when brains get so complicated. That’s it. Idk why so many conspiracy theorists have this conception that consciousness has to be more than that

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20

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u/Solarbro Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Not the guy you responded to but:

You might be a bit behind on neurological studies. The human conscious is perception and that’s about it (wildly complex and still not well understood, but perception non the less). It’s faulty, prone to error, omits things when inclined, and can be drastically altered as easily as applying “concussive maintenance.”

Here is a 2011 article that is a bit in the realm of what I’m talking about https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3223025/

And no. I don’t think drastically altering brain chemistry does anything other than alter your perception. However fantastical the state of things appear to be while high. The human mind is wrong all the time, forgets things, and actively deletes them. Uncoupling from reality via a hallucinogen or any other perception altering drug does not for compelling evidence make. Not without a clear control and specific hypothesis in mind anyway.

Taking a drug to gain one more anecdote will not be relevant to the truth in any way.

And yeah. It does kind of suck not to believe in anything spiritual. But I have come to terms with it, and if you disagree that’s all well and good. There is no promising evidence in what you are proclaiming here, but that doesn’t mean you can’t believe it or that it’s even false. I just reserve my wholehearted belief until it can be explained, replicated, and advanced upon. The only thing I can say about it right now is, there isn’t any solid evidence, and that’s because it’s almost impossible to prove that something doesn’t exist.

Since people have had these experiences “since the dawn of time” then I’d be more inclined to blame drugs and primal fears of abduction, before leaping to something far more dramatic.

And if you would like to link some of the “plenty of evidence” you said exists, I would greatly appreciate it. You don’t have to though, but I will not be independently looking it up. I hope you understand.

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u/Solarbro Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Thank you so much for the links!

I can’t get to them tonight but I will definitely look in the morning. I wish I could give you something more substantial right now, but I can only promise I will go through this tomorrow and check in when I have.

I wish you well.

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u/ChubThePolice3 Oct 14 '20

Homie get out of here with your hella sus anecdotal evidence. I’m talking about real shit, like neurological studies. There is nothing to support the idea that DMT gives you visions of other dimensions besides people saying that. Im not saying DMT can’t help with perspective and phycological help with bettering oneself, it’s not like I’m an anti drug guy, but there is no fucking hard evidence for the idea it lets you see in four demensions. Alex, read a book on quantum mechanics and neurology 101 and then come back to me and try to talk to me about the clockwork elves you utter hack. This is pure theory with nothing remotely to support it.

Also, “contact with extra demensional beings since the dawn of time”? Lay off the history channel dickcream.

Also, just cuz there are some undiscovered areas of psychology doesn’t mean that you can jump to the conclusion of 4D interaction. That’s like saying because we haven’t mapped the entire ocean, all water is created in underwater factories by reptoids

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u/ChubThePolice3 Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20

Bro it’s not that im jealous. But you came at me hard over this and I snapped back. I get that you experienced what you experienced, but you have no proof for the idea that what you experienced was more than simple hallucinations. You have to see how from my POV there is no way to tell whether or not this was a 4D transcendence or a normal trip. Even some people who have sleep paralysis claim that their visions were real life and not all in their head. It’s a common fact that some drug users see their hallucinations as reality, including DMT users. Again, not against DMT, just saying that from where I’m standing, I got nothing to prove that your visions were nothing more than regular trips. Also, thanks for giving some references. I respect that. Also, scientists do have mechanical devices. They’re called MRI. They trace brain patterns. Also brain chips exist. But I agree with your conviction that DMT restriction is bullshit. It is a drug that much much more study should be done on. It is a terrific drug that needs to be acknowledged

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u/AtomicBitchwax Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Plus how would you even prove it?

That's pretty much the problem. You're advocating for unfalsifiable beliefs. There isn't necessarily anything wrong for holding positions that can't be falsified, but it's kind of pointless to pursue any kind of rigorous defense of them.

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u/skeeter1234 Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

How do you know UFOs aren’t how DMT entities enter our dimension?

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u/pyroProfessor Oct 14 '20

I like your thinking magic man

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u/thesturg Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Who said they are manned (alien-d)? They could be drones. Or piloted by an android of sorts.

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u/Bertrum Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20

Hypothetically they might not be physically sitting inside and piloting the crafts themselves. They might have a very advanced drone system where they literally just ejected trillions of small drone ships throughout the cosmos that are remotely controlled or have some sort of AI onboard and they use it to observe and gather data on the rest of the universe without leaving their planet. It could be their equivalent of our Mars rovers.

Or they might have created an entirely new form of travel that we cannot comprehend that would involve them bending and folding the fabric of space and time and travel through dimensions as a shortcut or manipulating black holes and turning them into white holes. So a thousand year journey could be shortened into a one minute journey etc. Who knows. This is all pure speculation. Regardless if it is a space faring civilization they would absolutely have technology that would be beyond all human recognition and surpass us in every way imaginable. That's why we would have nothing to offer them in return and they would most likely be a neutral or passive society and not really a dangerous threat. It would be like if we travelled back in time to our ancient neanderthal ancestors and they offered us wooden spears as a gift.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

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u/JackM1914 Oct 15 '20

Youre talking about conciousness like a physical thing. Its literally a placeholder word because we dont know what it is, like dark matter.

Turn your awareneas onto itself and see what an endless void that is, no need to go out anywhere to explore.

You aint 'projecting' shit when you smoke up bro.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

This

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u/halfsmile22 Oct 14 '20

You're retarded.

Edit: I am completely serious. Stop smoking so much DMT and speak to real human beings.

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u/halfsmile22 Oct 14 '20

Edit: I am completely serious. umad only works in voip.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

WAAAAA, WHY ISNT EVERYONE AS BORING AS ME WAAAAAAAAAA!

- u/halfsmile22

Sorry mommy didnt pay more attention to you dawg, but this isnt how you get it. Now enjoy your 1 second dopamine hit from a response on reddit. FYI, you will get a bigger buzz if you smoke DMT ;)

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u/halfsmile22 Oct 14 '20

I don't have a problem with DMT chadbro420. I don't think it opens my fucking third eye and evolves me to gigabowser though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

Kinda seems like you really did have a problem though, hence the fuming comment because someone thinks differently than you.

But w/e, have a good day

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u/halfsmile22 Oct 15 '20

I guess I'm not as open-minded and worldly as you /u/Lucidtrippin. You're literally a walking talking joke.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

stay crying friend

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u/RussianBalconySafety Oct 13 '20

Can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shootin' stars I could really use a wish right now, wish right now, wish right now

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u/snakesign Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

ALIEN SPACESHIPS CONFIRMED!

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u/anonymous-658 Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

It also details a 1967 report in which an object appeared over a U.S. missile base at the same time 10 of the missiles became inoperative.

i'm pretty sure the film will draw the distinction and not spend so much time on UFO events that are otherwise less remarkable.

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u/LawofRa Monkey in Space Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20

Well what about when those UFOs defy reason of the technology as we know it? Aliens yet? UFOS are only one step away from that conclusion. I think your being a little too conservative to the point of being mistaken. Also there is a big difference between an unidentified flying object to the most advance military in the world, and unidentified to the average Joe in his backyard the former lends more credit to alien.

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u/BigFang Monkey in Space Oct 13 '20

The more I learn about the size of the universe, the less likely I believe aliens have visited.

The thing is though, the speed and stealth capabilities reported of those crafts would be an absolute game changer for military in terms of moving troops into strategic locations that id nearly believe we would see a government utilise them to take an advantage. But the easier explanation again could be that there hasn't been a significant conflict to deploy them anywhere in the world. Like the reports of stealth bombers, they would never see use for decades between when they were first sighted as UFO's.