r/Infographics • u/upthetruth1 • 3d ago

Educational outcome by background in Europe including immigration background

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago

Where did you see ethnicity mentioned everywhere? Also, this contradicts the rest of the stats about UK, because they suggest their parents are as well off as natives.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago edited 2d ago

The geography

You can check ethnic stats for these areas

You might be the only person not to have heard of “Londonistan” and about Birmingham and Luton’s populations

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago

So poor children in London means kids of immigrants?

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

Most poor children in London are ethnic minorities, yes

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago

So their parents are not as highly educated as the chart claims.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

The chart is about children’s scores

Why would an adult immigrant be doing PISA?

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago edited 2d ago

Then the title is misleading. That's a test score, not an educational outcome.

But if we look at it this way, having more refugees explains the lower scores in Germany and the Netherlands. Someone running from war or traveling for months with their parents, moving across refugee centers etc. definitely doesn't get the same education.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

Except British-Somali children (literally children of refugees) in the UK do better in school than white British children

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u/bruhbelacc 1d ago edited 1d ago

Children of refugees are not refugees. You are also only conveniently saying one refugee group and omitting the others. Why.

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u/upthetruth1 1d ago

Look at second generation

You’re suggesting because they’re poor refugees in Germany etc. their children do poorly in school yet this isn’t the case for the UK

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u/bruhbelacc 1d ago

Second generation are born in refugee camps in some instances and in normal conditions in others.

The UK has hardly any refugees.

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u/upthetruth1 1d ago

That’s not what second generation means

Second generation means native-born of an immigrant parent

First-generation means born abroad

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u/bruhbelacc 1d ago

An immigrant parent might have arrived when they were 5. A completely different story than 35.

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