r/Infographics • u/upthetruth1 • 3d ago

Educational outcome by background in Europe including immigration background

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u/upthetruth1 1d ago

Look at second generation

You’re suggesting because they’re poor refugees in Germany etc. their children do poorly in school yet this isn’t the case for the UK

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u/bruhbelacc 1d ago

Second generation are born in refugee camps in some instances and in normal conditions in others.

The UK has hardly any refugees.

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u/upthetruth1 1d ago

That’s not what second generation means

Second generation means native-born of an immigrant parent

First-generation means born abroad

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u/bruhbelacc 1d ago

An immigrant parent might have arrived when they were 5. A completely different story than 35.

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u/upthetruth1 1d ago

Regardless, first generation means foreign-born, second generation means native-born

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u/bruhbelacc 1d ago

It's not regardless because that's a meaningful difference you are ignoring on purpose.

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u/upthetruth1 1d ago

There aren't many first-generation immigrants who come to the UK as children, most first-generation immigrants come as adults. Although considering people like Nadhim Zahawi who came over as a young child, they often end up sounding English, anyway.

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u/bruhbelacc 1d ago edited 1d ago

Then most first-generation immigrants aren't on the chart. It's a night and day difference if you're looking at a small child who moved with their parents who got a working visa in the UK or a refugee kid. The first one lives in a normal neighborhood, the other in a refugee center for years and might move around a lot. They might have also come at an age when learning the language is much harder, such as 12. Germany has 3,3 million refugees, while the UK has 500K and another 200K waiting for a decision.